637 - Become the Bliss

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Guest speaker: Ram Dass

Ram Dass & Lorenzocirca: 2001

[NOTE: All quotations are by Ram Dass.]

“I was addicted to the experience of being high. I was not addicted to the chemicals, but just to the state. I had touched something so pure, and so fulfilling, that I had to keep going back. And I tried every method I knew to stay high.”

“What is required on this trip is renunciation of attachment.”

“Psychedelics show a possibility, but beyond that you still have a lot of stuff to do.”

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Transcript

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Greetings from cyberdelic space.

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This is Lorenzo, and I’m your host here in the Psychedelic Salon.

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This is Lorenzo, and I’m your host here in the Psychedelic Salon.

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Well, by now you no doubt know that we’ve lost yet another of our esteemed elders, Ram Dass.

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He died peacefully at home in Maui on December 22, 2019, surrounded by loved ones.

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And in the weeks and months ahead, I’m sure that there are going to be a great many tributes to this incredible being,

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and I’m looking forward to watching and listening to them all. So what can I do to add to this chorus, I asked myself, and as you’ll hear in just a moment, Ram Dass considered himself to be a man

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of words, and in his honor, I can think of nothing better for me to do right now than to play one of my favorite talks of his.

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So now, here is Ram Dass in his own words.

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The wild geese do not intend to cast their reflection.

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The water has no mind to receive their image.

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If I could sing or play an instrument for you, I would sing or play an instrument for you,

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I would sing and play an instrument for you.

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If I could dance for you, I would dance for you.

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If I could paint for you, I would paint for you.

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But my thing is words. But the problem about words is that you may listen

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to them. And that would be a mistake. For all I am doing is painting with words. And the message that is being sent is non-verbal.

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Anything you write down in a notebook to take home,

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to think about, forget it.

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For in fact, I’m not going to say anything

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that you don’t know already.

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But the perplexing problem is that you don’t know you know.

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Chung Tzu says, the fish trap exists because of the fish. Once you’ve gotten

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the fish, you can forget the trap. The rabbit snare exists because of the rabbit.

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Once you’ve gotten the rabbit

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you can forget the snare.

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Words exist because of meaning.

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Once you’ve gotten the meaning

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you can forget the words.

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Where can I find a man who has forgotten words

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so I can have a word with him?

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You don’t have to try.

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You don’t even have to listen. We just have to be together. And it’ll all happen. It will all happen. Now, what I’ve just said thus far is almost heresy.

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For in a very obvious manner of speaking,

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especially since this is named after Dr. Hebb, whose research was on the human brain,

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we are in a temple dedicated to the worship of the rational mind.

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Even though God said,

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thou shalt take no other God but me,

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we did it anyway.

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And professors are the high priests.

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And here in this temple,

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I am saying to you that what you are seeking that is bringing you here this evening

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you will not find

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through your rational thought processing

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it’s as simple as that

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Saint John of the Cross said

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all that the imagination can imagine

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and the reason can conceive

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and understand in this life

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is not and cannot be a proximate means of union with God.

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Just won’t make it.

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Hafiz, the poet, said,

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O thou who are trying to learn the marvel of love from the copy book of reason,

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I am very much afraid you will never really see

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the point. The marvel of love from the copy book of reason. We are sharing a journey at

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this point. What draws us together is that for the most part we are Westerners who have experienced a set of shared experiences

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and who are at this point asking of themselves and that which is around them

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some shared questions.

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And it’s only at the point that you ask the question that you can hear the answer.

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It is only at the point when it begins to dawn on you

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that maybe all of the methods you had available to you thus far aren’t going to be enough.

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All we can do at this point is to share our journeys with one another.

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another. I certainly, in no even minute sense, come before you to proselytize, because the Bhagavad Gita, Krishna says, he that teaches those that do not want to hear is performing an immoral act. And besides, they can’t hear it anyway.

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So it’s only when, in Sanskrit, they call it virag,

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when there is a certain amount of feeling

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of the falling away of worldliness,

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of the pull of certain things,

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that you’re ready to hear another message.

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And I’m going to share with you my own experiences thus far in my journey,

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briefly, and try to explore some of the implications of them.

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As I say, the likelihood that anybody in this room will ever go my trip,

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As I say, the likelihood that anybody in this room will ever go my trip, wear a dress and grow a beard and become sexually continent and live in the Himalayas, that’s just a trip.

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It’s a groovy trip, but it’s a trip, and it’s unique to the fact that that’s suitable for me at this moment.

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Each pilgrim on the path has to find his own way. However, all paths lead to the same place.

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And therefore, by hearing of other people’s journeys, you can get clear as to where it is you’re going, and you can get some of the dynamics of method comparatively, perhaps.

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My story is a story of three chapters. The first chapter I can tell most briefly at this point in my life.

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It used to be the longest chapter.

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The second chapter is a little longer,

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and the third chapter is perhaps the pertinent one for the evening.

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Chapter one, I trained to be a social psychologist in the field of child development and personality theory.

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I got my Ph.D. from Stanford, and I was a professor at Harvard.

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I taught at Cal and Stanford and Harvard.

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I came from a middle-class, upwardly mobile family.

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And I got my Ph.D. primarily out of fear.

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And I knew when I took my doctoral exams that I didn’t know, but I was very charming.

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And when I got to Harvard, I assumed that now that I was in one of the inner temples,

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I would know.

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And I taught hip courses.

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I taught Freud and human motivation, clinical pathology.

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And I went to the first faculty meeting, and they had high tea at 3.30.

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And it was very much like being in the Virginia Assembly

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at one of the historical landmarks in the United States.

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Even if they were talking about the hours that Radcliffe women had to be in bed,

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it all sounded like high oratory out of the Greek amphitheater.

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And I was very awed by it, but as the time went on,

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I was there for five years, I began to see that we didn’t know enough. Down the hall from me in one direction was Eric Erickson,

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another was Dave Reisman, Jerry Bruner of cognitive psychology, some of the people who

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were social scientists who supposedly knew. But it stood to reason that if we all knew, we should really be grooving.

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And we weren’t. Life just wasn’t beautiful enough. Everybody was talking about the rat

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race, looking drawn out in a highly competitive field. And what bothered me was I knew I didn’t know.

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But if you look in other people’s eyes

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to get the image of who you are, it’s pretty good

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and everybody kept saying, well, he’s a Harvard professor, so he knows.

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And my mother was proud of me.

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And I had collected all of the symbols of success in society,

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or at least a large number of them.

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I had a Cessna airplane,

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and a Mercedes-Benz,

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and a Triumph motorcycle,

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and a bachelor apartment full of antiques,

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and I had groovy dinner parties with bouillabaisse and white wine.

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And I went skin-d diving in Nassau and I sat on important committees

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but every now and then

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just before I’d be going to sleep

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or when I’d be in the bathtub or something

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there’d be that moment

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when there wasn’t somebody else’s eyes to look into

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to tell me how wonderful I was

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and I knew that it wasn’t somebody else’s eyes to look into to tell me how wonderful I was.

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And I knew that it wasn’t enough.

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It didn’t make it.

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And tenure was being dangled before my nose if I merely got my publications in order.

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And I thought, well, I have 40 more years of this.

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And I think it is most likely that I would have gone along at that pace, just collecting more and more badges. But down the hall from me, I was a

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big empire builder. I had 40 research assistants and two secretaries and four offices at Harvard,

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and I was in four different departments. And down the hall from me, in a little closet-like

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room that didn’t have any secretaries and nothing going, sat a man and we became drinking

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buddies and his name was Timothy Leary. And one evening, we talked about Mexico and he

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said he was going to be in Mexico the next summer

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and invited me to visit with him

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and in a drunken moment I said

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well why don’t we fly across the north of South America

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because I’m a pilot

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and he said that’s a great idea

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so we made a plan

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and I neglected to tell him that all I had was my student license

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but I worked hard all spring,

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and I got my license the day before I left for Mexico,

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and it was a hair-raising trip,

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and I arrived at Cuernavaca, where Timothy was,

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and he had just ingested these mushrooms,

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which are called Tia Nanactil, or flesh of the gods,

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and he said he had seen more in nine hours

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than he had learned in all his years as a psychologist.

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And there weren’t any more mushrooms around.

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So we didn’t go to South America.

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We hung out and talked about the mushrooms.

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And then we went back to the United States,

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and I was away.

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I was teaching at Cal as a visiting professor. And when I got back in the spring, one night on the night of a large

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snowstorm, I was invited over to Timothy’s house. I was visiting my parents in this suburb near

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Timothy, about a few blocks away. And I walked the few blocks to ingest psilocybin, the synthetic

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of the Mexican mushrooms.

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And after a kind of a melodramatic social scene in the kitchen over whether the dog was going to die,

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it’s that peculiar situation you get into when you’ve taken a psychedelic

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because the dog had been out running in the snow and was panting,

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and the question was, was he panting naturally or not?

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And how would we know?

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But Tim’s young son, 11 years old, came down and set us straight.

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And then I went off into the living room by myself.

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And this is the report of that few moments at that point.

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But now a few hours later, I had gone off by myself

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to reflect upon these new feelings and senses.

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A deep calm pervaded my being the

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rug crawled and the pictures smiled all of which delighted me then i saw a figure standing about

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eight feet away where a moment before there had been no one i peered into the semi-darkness and recognized none other than myself

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in cap and gown and hood as a professor.

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It was as if that part of me, which was Harvard professor,

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had separated or dissociated itself from me.

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Well, I thought, I worked hard to get that status,

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but I don’t really need it.

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So it’s over there,

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and I’m over here, so I’ll give it up. I won’t get frightened. Okay. Again, I settled back into the cushions, but at that moment, the figure changed. Again, I leaned forward, straining to

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see. Ah, me again. But now it was that aspect of me which was the social cosmopolite.

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again. But now it was that aspect of me which was the social cosmopolite. Okay, so that goes too,

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I thought. Again and again the figure changed, and I recognized over there all the different aspects I knew to be me. Cellist, pilot, etc. With each new presentation, I again and again

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reassured myself that I didn’t need that anyway.

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Then I saw the figure

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over there become that in me

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which was Richard Alpert-ness.

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That is, the basic social identity

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by which I had always

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acknowledged my existence.

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Sweat broke out on my forehead.

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I wasn’t at all sure I could do without being Richard Alpert.

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Did that mean I’d have amnesia?

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Was that what this drug that this madman had given me was going to do?

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Would it be permanent?

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Should I call Tim?

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What the hell? I’ll give up being Richard Al Alfred. I can always get a new social identity. At least I have my body. But I spoke too soon.

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my body for reassurance, I could see nothing below the kneecaps. And slowly, now to my horror, with my eyes wide open, I saw the progressive disappearance of limbs and then torso, until all

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there was was the couch on which I had sat. This is usually known as a bad trip report.

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A scream formed in my throat. I felt that I was dying, since there was nothing in my universe that led me to believe in life after leaving the body. Doing without professerness, or lover-ness, or even Richard Alpert-ness was okay, but I certainly needed the body.

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needed the body. Panic mounted, adrenaline shot through my system, my mouth became dry,

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but along with this, a voice sounded inside, what I don’t know, but inside, an intimate voice asked very quietly and rather jocularly, it seemed to me, considering how distraught

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I was, but who’s minding the store?

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When I could finally focus on the question,

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which takes a while,

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I realized that though everything by which I knew myself,

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even my body, and thus life itself as I knew it, was gone, still I was fully aware.

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Not only that, but this aware I was watching the entire drama, including the panic, with calm compassion.

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Instantly, with this recognition, I felt a new kind of calmness, one of a profundity never experienced before.

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I had just found that I, Later I called it a scanning device,

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a point, an essence.

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A place where I existed independent

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of social and physical identity.

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That which was I was beyond life and death.

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And something else,

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that I knew.

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It really knew.

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It was wise rather than just knowledgeable.

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It was the voice inside that spoke truth.

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I recognized it, was one with it,

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and felt as if my entire life of looking to the outside world

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for reassurance was over.

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Now I need only look within to that place where I knew.

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Fear turned into exaltation. I ran out into the snow laughing. In a moment the house was lost

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from view, but it was all right because inside I knew. At about 5.30 I walked through the silent

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land a few blocks, my heart full to overflowing with the joy of my newfound self. At my parents’

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home, I felt the urge to clear the walk, as any good young tribal buck might. Happily, I set about

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the task. Then the upstairs window flew open, and there were my parents. Come to bed, you idiot.

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Nobody shovels snow in the middle of the night. Ah, there was that external voice to which I had always listened.

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But what did the voice inside say?

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It said, it’s okay to shovel snow, and it’s okay to be happy.

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I laughed up at them, danced a bit of a jig, and returned to shoveling.

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When I looked again, they had closed the window,

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and behind it, they too were smiling. It’s known as a contact high.

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Now, the reason I read that to you at some length is because I want to read you one other thing of two paragraphs,

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which is an anticipation, a foreshadowing of Chapter 3.

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This is the experience of a 17-year-old middle-class high school student

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with no particular spiritual training.

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Quote, I was sitting alone in a room on the first floor of my uncle’s

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house. I seldom had any sickness, and on that day there was nothing wrong with my health, but a

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sudden violent fear of death overtook me. There was nothing in my state of health to account for it.

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I just felt I am going to die and began thinking what to do about it.

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It did not occur to me to consult a doctor or my elders or friends.

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I felt I had to solve the problem myself, there and then.

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The shock of the fear of death drove my mind inwards,

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and I said to myself mentally, without actually forming the words,

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now death has come, what does it mean?

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What is it that is dying? This body dies, and at once I

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dramatize the occurrence of death. I lay with my limbs stretched out as though rigor mortis had set

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in, and imitated a corpse so as to give greater reality to the inquiry. I held my breath and kept

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my lips tightly closed so that no sound could escape, so that neither the word I nor any other word could be uttered.

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Well, then, I said to myself, this body is dead.

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It will be carried stiff to the burning ground, and there burnt and reduced to ashes.

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But with the death of the body, am I dead? Is the body I?

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It is silent and inert, but I feel the full force of my personality and even the voice of the I within me apart from it, apart from the personality.

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So I am spirit transcending the body.

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The body dies, but the spirit that transcends it cannot be touched by death.

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That means that I am the deathless spirit.

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All this was not dull thought

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it flashed through me vividly as living truth

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which I perceived directly almost without thought process

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I was something very real

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the only real thing about my present state

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and all the conscious activity connected with my body

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was centered on that I

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from that moment onward the I or self focused attention on itself

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by a powerful fascination.

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Fear of death had vanished once and for all.

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Absorption in the self continued unbroken from that time on.

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Previous to that crisis, I had no clear perception of this and was not consciously attracted to it.

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I felt no perceptible or direct interest in it, much less any desire to dwell permanently in it.

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Three weeks after this experience, the fellow whose report I just read dropped out.

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He left home and he went to a mountain where for 50 years he remained teaching and guiding

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all seekers with extraordinary spiritual wisdom.

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His name was Ramana Maharshi.

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He was one of the greatest saints that India has known.

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Now the difference between Ramana Maharshi and me was that I came down.

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I had an experience on Saturday night and I assured myself, I have just touched living

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truth, I will know this forever.

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And by Wednesday I was speaking of it in the past tense, talking about this great experience

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I had.

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That experience starts Chapter 2.

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For Chapter 2 was my own quest

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via the method of psychedelics

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to, I guess you’d say, stay high.

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There was a lot of political, social activity

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connected with the psychedelics,

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which I’m sure you’ve all heard or read about at one point or another

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in various sundry scientific journals, such as Saturday Evening Post or like that.

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And in the course of these explorations, I was fired from Harvard.

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I lost all my jobs, and my parents mourned me as if I were dead.

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and my parents mourned me as if I were dead.

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But it didn’t matter because I had touched something that was so powerful

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that it compelled me to go on with it.

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I was addicted to the experience of being high.

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I was not addicted to the chemical, but just to the state.

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I had touched something so pure and so fulfilling

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that I had to keep going back. And I tried every method I knew to stay high. Everybody

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that came along with something that looked reasonably safe to ingest, I opened my mouth.

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I discriminated what I put in by who was giving it to me, of course.

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One point, a man walked into an apartment I was visiting in New York,

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and he was so paranoid that when he heard a news reporter was in the living room,

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he hid in the bathroom until the man left.

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And then he came out, and he was wearing cowboy boots and a cowboy hat, and he was quite strange-looking.

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And he started pulling bottles out of all of his pockets, saying he thought our work was great great and he wanted to give us so many grams of this and so many grams of that.

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And he had animal laboratories and had access to all this.

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Then he put out this bottle and he said, this is an LSD, the new kind that keeps you permanently high.

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And he put it on the table.

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And we all silently looked at it

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and then the question arose

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how does he know?

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and if he is what that is, I want it.

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Christ has a beautiful parable to describe those days.

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And when the king came in to behold the guests,

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he saw there a man who had not on a wedding garment,

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and he said unto him, Friend, how camest thou in thither not having on a wedding garment? And he was speechless. Then the king said to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and cast him into the outer darkness. There

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shall be much weeping and gnashing of teeth. And that’s what would happen. You could force your way

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in through the door into the wedding feast, but couldn’t stay there and i kept figuring that if we could change the chemistry we could and then that

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didn’t seem to be working and then i understood that it had something to do with what i was saying

00:26:56 ►

a few years back getting straight you had to get straight but i didn’t really understand what that

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meant the extent of the chemical experiments was at one point

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five of us locked ourselves in a house for three weeks, and we took 400 microgram LSD

00:27:11 ►

every four hours for three weeks. And at the end of the three weeks, we came down.

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Well, this chapter had gone from 1961 till the beginning of 1967.

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At this point, I had to acknowledge the fact that I didn’t know, still.

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I now knew what it was that I was reaching for.

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I understood the possibility, but I didn’t know how to get there.

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It wasn’t that I didn’t have supplies to work with, but what’s the sense in taking them?

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Because I knew the trip.

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I had programmed

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and designed studies.

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I had taken

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a thousand micrograms

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of LSD standing

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in the ocean at midnight

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in the Mexican,

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you know,

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with the jungle behind me

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and the ocean in front of me

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to get in tune

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with the forces of nature

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and scare the hell out of myself.

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And at this point, I was going around as a lecturer talking about psychedelics. And there was no doubt that they were important and that they were showing us a

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possibility, but they weren’t a full method, or at least we didn’t know how to use them.

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Now, at this point, a friend of mine came along, a fellow who I had guided through his first psychedelic experiences. He was an unusual fellow.

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He was about 14 and a half. He had gone to the University of Chicago. He had to wait until he

00:28:37 ►

was 21 to get his international law degree. At 23 or 24, he was teaching in the United Nations.

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At 23 or 24 he was teaching in the United Nations. At 27 or 28 he started his own company, which he sold when he was 34 to Xerox.

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He became an executive and he retired after a year and took his $5 million to become a Buddhist.

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It’s happening faster and faster these days.

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And he wanted to go in search of holy men in the East.

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We had suspected along the way that the East, of course,

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was doing all of the work that we were just touching,

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and they knew all about these things.

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But many of my friends had gone to India,

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and they had come back saying there are many good pundits,

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that is, knowledgeable people,

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but there is nobody that seems to really know.

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And the frightening thought occurred, what happens if we are seems to really know. And the frightening thought

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occurred, what happens if we are the people that know most in the world at this moment?

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That’s pretty scary, because we don’t know. And you certainly, there’s a paternalistic thing,

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you know, you want somebody to know, somebody wise to be sitting there that knows.

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And I was kind of discouraged, because I didn’t think I was going to find anything,

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but I didn’t know what else to do.

00:29:45 ►

I had blown it in psychology.

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I had used up my psychedelic chemical possibilities as far as I could think of them,

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so I went off to India.

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We started in Iran and went looking for Sufis and then through Afghanistan,

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and we went on a first-class Western trip.

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And we went on a first-class Western trip.

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We had a big Land Rover with a candy-striped camper top on it,

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bottled water and canned sardines,

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soft beds up on the back of the car.

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We saw the mass of India through the windows of the Land Rover.

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We scored great hashish in Afghanistan.

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And so it was all seen through kind of a fog of hashish.

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We went and we had the haddarshan of the Dalai Lama and we went to the burning ghats and we went to Delhi

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and we went to where Buddha delivered his first sermon

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and we did the whole trip.

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And I took 1,300 slides and I collected groovy musical

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instruments and I had many tapes of great music, but nothing had happened at all. And I had this

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bottle of LSD in it. When I’d find what seemed like holy men, I would give them an LSD and

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we’d talk about it. They’d say, well, I’d like to try it. And I say, well, it just so happens I’m… And I thought maybe they’d tell me what it was.

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And some of them said it gave me a headache.

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One old Theravadan monk, Buddhist monk.

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One fellow said, it’s good, but not as good as meditation.

00:31:21 ►

One fellow said, where can I get some more?

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one fellow said,

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where can I get some more?

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In general, most of the messages were messages I had received before,

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and I did not feel that any great light

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had been shed at that point.

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And I got to Kathmandu, Nepal,

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and we were about to go on to Japan.

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And I started to experience very deep despair

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because that was sort of like the beginning of the journey home,

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and I didn’t see any reason to go back.

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What was I going back to?

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I had used up everything.

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I had nothing new to say.

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I didn’t know.

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I didn’t know enough.

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And I was sitting in a hippie restaurant

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called the Blue Tibetan

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with my friend, my traveling companion. I was sitting with some French hippies, a hippie restaurant called the Blue Tibetan,

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with my friend, my traveling companion.

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I was sitting with some French hippies.

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And in walked this very extraordinary-looking young fellow.

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He was six foot seven,

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and he had long blonde hair and blonde beard.

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He was barefoot,

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wearing white cloth beads.

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Very powerful being.

00:32:30 ►

And he came right to our table and sat down. And within about two minutes, I sensed that this fellow knew.

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It’s interesting how when you are in the businesses I’ve been in,

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you are constantly checking out people’s eyes.

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And I would look into their eyes, and they would always be looking at me like,

00:32:48 ►

do you know? And I’d be saying, no, do you know?

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And it was like…

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And there was just a feeling in this fellow that, like a rock,

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like whatever it was, he knew it.

00:33:06 ►

And we took him back to the hotel, and we had about a five-day seminar in the hotel room on hot baths and peach melbas

00:33:12 ►

and we had a sculptor, an Indian sculptor, a beautiful fellow with us, the four of us,

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and Mescaline and Hashish and Alexander David Neal books and Arthur Avedon books and all

00:33:24 ►

of our levels.

00:33:25 ►

And at the end of about four or five days, it was still quite obvious to me that he knew.

00:33:31 ►

And the time came to go on to Japan with my friend who I’d been traveling with

00:33:35 ►

or continue to hang out with this guy.

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And this guy had no money, and I had no money.

00:33:44 ►

And I was a little queasy about what was going on what were my motives

00:33:47 ►

what was this all about was it pure enough and so on but for a variety of reasons which I won’t be

00:33:54 ►

labor at this moment I decided to go with him and we started this pilgrimage by foot. Now I am barefoot and experiencing extraordinary breakdown of my physical being.

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Dysentery, sleeping on the ground and on wooden tables so that all my hips are all black and blue

00:34:16 ►

and aching and my feet have blisters on them and I’m exhausted because all day long I’m walking behind him trying to avoid walking in cow dung and pond juice and people spit. And I came from a very

00:34:31 ►

well toilet trained background. And he was very compassionate, although not having much pity. And he’d say, well, why don’t you fast for a few days?

00:34:46 ►

You’ll feel better.

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Your body will develop the bacteria. It’s cool.

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And he started to train me in a most unusual way.

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I would say to him,

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did I ever tell you the time I was

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in Mexico flying? And he’d say,

00:35:04 ►

don’t think about the past, just be here now.

00:35:10 ►

How long do you suppose we’re going to be on this trip? Don’t think about the future,

00:35:16 ►

just be here now. He said, if you can be here now, when then is now, you will have super consciousness and super energy and you will know just what to do.

00:35:29 ►

I’d say, boy, do I feel crummy.

00:35:33 ►

He’d say, emotions are like waves. Watch them disappear into the distance.

00:35:38 ►

I had nothing left to talk about.

00:35:54 ►

about so I was silent so then we were silent and all we did was sing holy songs and have minimal communication about eat this sleep there you do this breathing exercise this way and he was

00:36:00 ►

teaching me stuff all along the way and sort of cooling me out and we visited a variety of temples and had extraordinary experiences along the way which are other

00:36:09 ►

chapters of the book which we need again do in this trip after about three months and i was going

00:36:17 ►

through a lot of mixed feelings because after all here i had come to india i I was an ex-professor, I was 35 years old,

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and I end up following around a 23-year-old guy from Laguna Beach.

00:36:40 ►

Whoever wrote the script clearly had a sense of humor. It was not that I loved him.

00:36:40 ►

had a sense of humor.

00:36:41 ►

It was not about that.

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The end of about three months,

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or a few months,

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a couple of months,

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we had visa problems

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and we went to get

00:36:55 ►

our visas straight

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and we got to the

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small town where

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his visa papers were

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and everywhere we went

00:37:01 ►

he was welcomed

00:37:02 ►

by all the religious

00:37:03 ►

people with open arms.

00:37:04 ►

If we went to a

00:37:04 ►

Theravadan Buddhist monastery, he would be chanting Buddhist chants,

00:37:09 ►

and they’d all welcome him, and suddenly I’d realize he was one of them.

00:37:12 ►

So I’d figure, aha, he’s a Theravadan Buddhist.

00:37:15 ►

We’d meet a Kajipa Lama from Tibet, and they’d be talking chants of Tibet,

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and I would say, aha, he’s a Kajipa Lama.

00:37:24 ►

We’d meet Shaivites, and he’d

00:37:26 ►

be in thick with them, and I couldn’t figure out what his trip was. He was everything.

00:37:31 ►

And I was pretty confused. I generally thought we were Buddhists, because it seemed relatively clean and antiseptic.

00:37:49 ►

And the Hindu trip seemed very… Their pictures were so garish.

00:37:51 ►

And so the whole thing was kind of gauche, I thought.

00:37:55 ►

So he says,

00:37:56 ►

he says, you stay here.

00:37:59 ►

I’m going out to see about my papers.

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So I sit.

00:38:02 ►

And I’m like a little child, you see.

00:38:04 ►

He tells me what to eat, where to sleep. He speaks Hindi and I don’t very well And I’m like a little child, you see. He tells me what to eat,

00:38:05 ►

where to sleep. He speaks Hindi, and I don’t very well. I just understand a little of it. And he,

00:38:10 ►

so it’s natural that he would sort of run things, but also everything he’s running. That’s cool.

00:38:16 ►

During that night, I went out under the stars to go to the bathroom. And while I was under the

00:38:22 ►

stars, I looked up at the heavens, which seemed particularly close, since there was no electricity in that town. And I thought about my mother,

00:38:30 ►

who had died the previous January in Boston at the Peter Bent Brigham Hospital from a spleen.

00:38:36 ►

Her spleen had taken over her bone marrow and stopped producing blood, and her spleen grew

00:38:40 ►

very large, and they took it out, and she died. And I wasn’t thinking about how she died,

00:38:46 ►

I just was thinking about her because I had been with her

00:38:48 ►

during the period of her dying,

00:38:50 ►

and we had experienced a very high state,

00:38:52 ►

quite independent of our relation as parent and child or in bodies,

00:38:57 ►

and I had never felt any loss when she died,

00:39:00 ►

which quite amazed me.

00:39:01 ►

Even though as a psychologist I was saying,

00:39:03 ►

no grief reaction, watch it.

00:39:08 ►

And I thought about her,

00:39:09 ►

and I just thought about how close I felt to her,

00:39:12 ►

and then I went back to bed,

00:39:13 ►

and I said nothing about this.

00:39:16 ►

And the next day, he said,

00:39:19 ►

we’re going to get the Land Rover and go up into the mountains,

00:39:22 ►

because I have to go see my guru.

00:39:24 ►

And he had never mentioned even having a guru.

00:39:27 ►

And I had a very funny feeling about gurus,

00:39:30 ►

that it was a hustle,

00:39:32 ►

and that maybe he meant a high teacher.

00:39:35 ►

And I assumed it would be somebody Buddhist,

00:39:37 ►

but you didn’t call them gurus usually,

00:39:39 ►

and the whole thing was confusing.

00:39:40 ►

And furthermore, the Land Rover I hated now,

00:39:44 ►

and it hadn’t been left in, for me anyway, it had been left with a sculptor, and I knew if we borrowed it would be my responsibility, and I didn’t want the responsibility, and I was sort of sulking, and I was sort of hungover from all the hashish I had smoked, which I now was finished smoking.

00:40:01 ►

smoking and I we got to Land Rover

00:40:04 ►

which he made us take and

00:40:05 ►

he wouldn’t let me drive

00:40:07 ►

and I was just sitting sulking in the front seat

00:40:10 ►

and we went up into the mountains

00:40:12 ►

about a hundred miles and we came to a

00:40:14 ►

little temple by the side of the road

00:40:15 ►

and he stopped and I could tell something

00:40:18 ►

big was going to happen because he was crying all the way up

00:40:20 ►

singing and crying

00:40:22 ►

and coming on

00:40:24 ►

and I was very angry. And I thought, oh, all this

00:40:30 ►

is is a young 23-year-old kid. He just wants to have a big Land Rover. And I’m going back

00:40:37 ►

to America. I’ve had enough of this. And we stop, and the car is surrounded, and he says,

00:40:44 ►

where is Maharaji? It means great king. And they say he’s up car is surrounded, and he says, Where is Maharaji? He means great king.

00:40:46 ►

And they say he’s up on the hill, and he goes running off up the hill,

00:40:49 ►

and everybody’s sort of ignoring me.

00:40:52 ►

And I’m following him, stumbling behind this six-foot-seven giant, you know,

00:40:56 ►

and he’s crying and running, and I’m stumbling, and I’m angry and bugged,

00:41:00 ►

and I don’t want to do this.

00:41:02 ►

We walk around a hill so that we’re out of sight of the

00:41:05 ►

road and we come into a hillside with a valley behind it a beautiful scene and there is sitting

00:41:12 ►

a little old man with a blanket and he’s surrounded by about eight or nine Indians and this tall

00:41:17 ►

fellow is stretched out flat in what’s called Dunderpranam with his hands touching the feet

00:41:21 ►

of this man and he’s crying and the man’s patting his head and smiling.

00:41:29 ►

And I take a look at this scene, and it’s quite beautiful, but I’m too bugged to really appreciate it.

00:41:34 ►

And I think, well, I’m not going to touch his feet. I mean, you know, we don’t do that in the West.

00:41:42 ►

So I sort of stood back, figuring, well, I can just be an observer. I’m just a passenger in the car. I don’t have to do anything. After a little

00:41:47 ►

while, this old man pulled his hair, and he said to him, have you got a picture of me?

00:41:52 ►

And the boy said, yeah. And he said, well, give it to him. So I thought, gee, that’s

00:41:56 ►

very nice, you know. This little old man’s going to give me a picture of himself. And I smiled. Thank you very much. You know, see,

00:42:07 ►

there was a guy who would translate. The school principal was one of the eight people. And

00:42:12 ►

he would sort of say everything in English after this. And then he looked up at me and

00:42:16 ►

I was still like very uptight. He looked up at me and he said, you came in a big car?

00:42:21 ►

You came in a big car?

00:42:25 ►

Like the one topic, see, that I’m uptight about.

00:42:28 ►

So I said, yeah.

00:42:31 ►

He said, you’ll give it to me?

00:42:44 ►

So I started to say, well, and this young fellow said,

00:42:46 ►

Maharaji, if you want it, it’s yours.

00:42:47 ►

And I said, now, wait a minute.

00:42:49 ►

You can’t go giving away David’s car.

00:42:50 ►

It’s not our car to give away.

00:42:54 ►

This little old man says to me, you made much money in America?

00:42:58 ►

So I said, yeah, one time I made.

00:42:59 ►

He said, how much did you make?

00:43:02 ►

So I was into bragging. I needed something for my ego.

00:43:07 ►

I said, well, one year I made $25,000.

00:43:11 ►

So they all figured that out in rupees and everybody was impressed.

00:43:14 ►

It’s like 60 billion rupees or something like that.

00:43:27 ►

So he said, you’ll buy a car like that for me?

00:43:32 ►

Now, I grew up in a family that was very involved with Jewish charities,

00:43:36 ►

and I knew about getting money, but I had never been hustled so fast in my life.

00:43:41 ►

I didn’t even know who he was, and he was already asking me for a $7,000 car.

00:43:45 ►

And he’s smiling at me all the time.

00:43:48 ►

He’s putting me on.

00:43:50 ►

That’s really what it boils down to.

00:43:53 ►

So I say, well, perhaps.

00:43:53 ►

And then he says,

00:43:55 ►

take them away, give them food.

00:43:56 ►

And we’re taken off and given food.

00:43:59 ►

Big sumptuous feast.

00:44:03 ►

The end of the feast, we rest,

00:44:04 ►

and then we’re brought back to him.

00:44:07 ►

And he says, come sit.

00:44:09 ►

So I go and sit down.

00:44:13 ►

He said, you were out under the stars last night.

00:44:16 ►

You were thinking about your mother.

00:44:18 ►

Yeah.

00:44:20 ►

She died last year. Close his eyes for a second. He says, she got very big in the stomach before

00:44:28 ►

she died. He says, spleen. She died of spleen. When he said that, two things happened to me.

00:44:47 ►

One was that my mind raced faster and faster and faster

00:44:50 ►

through every conceivable CIA super paranoia I could conceive of

00:44:55 ►

to figure out what was happening to me.

00:45:00 ►

I mean, who was putting me on?

00:45:01 ►

Like, had they brought me here?

00:45:03 ►

Was this some monstrous training program?

00:45:06 ►

And a dossier was spread behind this little man.

00:45:08 ►

He pushed a button and the ground opened up.

00:45:11 ►

And I mean, like, that’s very far out

00:45:14 ►

because even the guy I was traveling with

00:45:15 ►

didn’t know that stuff.

00:45:17 ►

And I was just a passenger in the car.

00:45:19 ►

You know, boy, they’re really good at big game.

00:45:23 ►

And I went through, like,

00:45:24 ►

what are the probabilities, you see?

00:45:28 ►

Because, see, in the past, I was in this position

00:45:30 ►

that when things like this happened, they didn’t happen to me usually,

00:45:33 ►

they happened to somebody else, and I said, well, that’s nice.

00:45:36 ►

We certainly have to keep an open mind about those things.

00:45:49 ►

And when it did happen to me,

00:45:51 ►

I was always out of my head on psychedelics,

00:45:53 ►

and how did I know it had happened that I hadn’t just created the whole thing out of whole cloth?

00:45:56 ►

Because I had taken some psychedelics that did that kind of thing.

00:46:00 ►

I remember taking a thing called JB318,

00:46:04 ►

I had taken, I remember taking a thing called JB318.

00:46:10 ►

And I was sitting in a room and nothing was happening.

00:46:13 ►

And I thought, gee, nothing much happens with this drug, does it?

00:46:17 ►

Even though the fellow I took it with, who was about 50, was doing cartwheels through the room.

00:46:19 ►

But I felt nothing.

00:46:24 ►

And then this girl from the community I was living in walked in and she said,

00:46:25 ►

would you like some lemonade? And I said, that would be great. And she poured this glass of lemonade and it living in walked in and she said, would you like some lemonade?

00:46:26 ►

And I said, that would be great.

00:46:29 ►

And she poured this glass of lemonade and it got to the top and she kept pouring and it went over the side and down the side and across the wall and up the wall

00:46:33 ►

and across the ceiling and down and under my pants.

00:46:36 ►

And then it went back up and my pants got wet and I moved.

00:46:40 ►

And then it went back up and as it touched the glass, the glass disappeared

00:46:43 ►

and the girl disappeared and my wet pants were no longer wet and I turned to Ralph Metzner

00:46:48 ►

who was sitting next to me and I said, Ralph, you know the most unusual thing just happened to me

00:46:51 ►

and Ralph disappeared. And thus, I was perfectly willing when the people at Harvard said,

00:47:13 ►

you people have been taking these drugs,

00:47:18 ►

you are therefore not reputable scientists anymore as observers.

00:47:21 ►

And I was perfectly delighted to say, I will be data.

00:47:27 ►

anymore as observers and I was perfectly delighted to say I will be data study me and it may be it’s too bad what happened those guys in the 60s at Harvard you

00:47:31 ►

know so my mind went faster and faster and faster and then they went through

00:47:35 ►

every desperate ploy and and search through all the storage units and then

00:47:41 ►

just like a computer that has been fed an insoluble problem finally so the

00:47:44 ►

machine doesn’t burn out entirely a red light goes on and a bell rings the machine stops and that is what

00:47:50 ►

happened my mind just gave up and simultaneously and this was not I couldn’t experience that as

00:47:56 ►

cause and effect all I experienced it was the simultaneity of he was looking right at me and

00:48:00 ►

sort of just looking right at me I felt this very violent tugging sensation in my chest.

00:48:06 ►

It was very painful.

00:48:09 ►

And I started to cry.

00:48:12 ►

And I cried and I cried and I cried.

00:48:14 ►

And I wasn’t happy and I wasn’t sad.

00:48:17 ►

The closest I could come to description of feelings

00:48:19 ►

was like I’m home or it’s over

00:48:22 ►

or it’s all right or wow, that kind of thing.

00:48:28 ►

Cried and cried and cried, and they took me away.

00:48:33 ►

And I was taken to a temple about 12 miles away, and I was given a nice room,

00:48:37 ►

and I was sitting in the room, and during the evening I was very confused,

00:48:40 ►

and at one point I was going through my shoulder bag, and I came to the bottle of LSD.

00:48:46 ►

I thought, this guy is going to know what LSD is, because he knows everything.

00:48:50 ►

I’ll have to ask him.

00:48:54 ►

Next morning at 8 o’clock, messenger comes, Maharaji wants to see you.

00:48:58 ►

We go over the 12 miles to the temple.

00:49:00 ►

I’m just approaching him, about five, six yards away from him, and he yells out,

00:49:03 ►

Have you got a question?

00:49:06 ►

And I take one look at him, and all I want to do is touch his feet.

00:49:13 ►

I don’t have any question.

00:49:14 ►

It’s so warm and beautiful, and there’s so much light coming out of him.

00:49:18 ►

And I say, no, I don’t have any question.

00:49:20 ►

And he gets very impatient, and he says, where’s the medicine?

00:49:24 ►

Medicine?

00:49:22 ►

and he gets very impatient and he says, where’s the medicine?

00:49:26 ►

Medicine?

00:49:28 ►

So, Guru brother says,

00:49:30 ►

well, maybe he means the LSD.

00:49:31 ►

I said, LSD?

00:49:32 ►

Acha, the LSD.

00:49:33 ►

Bring the LSD.

00:49:35 ►

So I go and I bring the bottle of LSD.

00:49:38 ►

I hold up my hand.

00:49:39 ►

He wants to see.

00:49:40 ►

So I hold up my hand and pour it in.

00:49:41 ►

He says, well, what’s that?

00:49:42 ►

I said, well, that’s LSD.

00:49:43 ►

And he said, that’s STP and and that’s Librium, and that’s

00:49:47 ►

2-in-all, and, you know, it’s my traveling kit.

00:49:57 ►

In those days, I hasten to add for the benefit of the

00:50:01 ►

people whose business it is to protect us from those kind of traveling kids.

00:50:10 ►

And he says, does it give you siddhis?

00:50:13 ►

And I didn’t know what the word siddhis meant.

00:50:15 ►

And I said siddhis, and it was translated as powers to me.

00:50:19 ►

And I didn’t realize it was spiritual powers.

00:50:20 ►

I thought he was asking for physical power.

00:50:22 ►

I thought he wanted something like vitamin B12.

00:50:25 ►

And I didn’t have anything like that, and I was really depressed,

00:50:29 ►

because I really wanted to give him whatever he wanted.

00:50:31 ►

I mean, I would have given him anything at that point.

00:50:33 ►

He could have the Land Rover if he wanted.

00:50:38 ►

So I said, gee, I’m sorry, I don’t have that,

00:50:40 ►

and I poured it back into the bottle, and I was very sad.

00:50:42 ►

No, no, no, and he holds out his hand.

00:50:45 ►

So I put one pill in his hand and these are

00:50:47 ►

called white lightning and they were about

00:50:51 ►

275 micrograms of LSD, but these were a special batch that had been

00:50:55 ►

made for me as a going away present and they were each 305 micrograms.

00:51:01 ►

He looked and he, come on, come on.

00:51:03 ►

So I put a second on his hand

00:51:05 ►

that was 610 micrograms

00:51:07 ►

for a 70 year old man

00:51:09 ►

you’re usually

00:51:09 ►

you know

00:51:09 ►

like 150

00:51:10 ►

under suitable conditions

00:51:12 ►

can’t be too careful

00:51:14 ►

you know

00:51:16 ►

about the heart

00:51:16 ►

and he looks

00:51:19 ►

he says come on

00:51:19 ►

come on

00:51:20 ►

so I put a third one

00:51:21 ►

that’s 915

00:51:22 ►

that’s going to do it

00:51:23 ►

I mean it’s good

00:51:23 ►

LSD

00:51:24 ►

and he looks So I put a third one, that’s 915, that’s going to do it, I mean it’s good LSD.

00:51:32 ►

And he looks, ach-ha, and he downs the whole business.

00:51:38 ►

And the scientist in me says, well this is going to be interesting. And all day I hung around and every now and then he’d twinkle at me.

00:51:50 ►

And of course nothing happened.

00:51:53 ►

At all.

00:51:56 ►

So that was the answer to that question.

00:52:00 ►

He continued to manifest these, what we in the West call, miracles.

00:52:02 ►

he continued to manifest these,

00:52:04 ►

what we in the West call miracles.

00:52:09 ►

Certainly the capacity to know everything I was thinking at all times.

00:52:15 ►

And lest ye see wonders and miracles

00:52:17 ►

ye will not believe.

00:52:18 ►

And that certainly was helping.

00:52:20 ►

But it was only a more trivial part

00:52:23 ►

of the whole undertaking, it turned out.

00:52:27 ►

I never left the temple. I just stayed there. They took took me over they didn’t ask me if I wanted to stay there were no contracts

00:52:30 ►

no promises no anything they just bought my clothes and put me in a room and I met this man

00:52:37 ►

who then became my teacher who was a disciple of the gurus. No place to hide. My teacher had gone into the jungle when he

00:52:49 ►

was eight years old. Fifteen years ago, he had met the guru in the jungle. They were

00:52:55 ►

both called jungle sadhus. That is, they lived in caves way back in the forest. They didn’t

00:52:59 ►

have any commerce with people. And he was a very pure Brahmin, the teacher. He weighs about 90 pounds.

00:53:08 ►

He’s very tiny. He’s a very unusual fellow. He’s got his jeta piled high. His hair goes all the

00:53:15 ►

way down to his ankles, but it’s all kept piled on his head. He moves incredibly fast. He’s always

00:53:21 ►

rushing around. He has architecturally architecturally designed see what happens is this

00:53:25 ►

guru who is just this little old man in a blanket he just hangs out see and he sort of just hangs

00:53:33 ►

out he doesn’t do anything except just talk to people people feed him right and he just does his

00:53:39 ►

thing in a very subtle way and every and and they the devotees like having him around so much because he’s so high that they

00:53:46 ►

sort of guard him. Because if they let him go, he’d sort of walk off and maybe nobody would see

00:53:51 ►

him again. And they have a car for him and he just keeps disappearing here and there with a car and

00:53:57 ►

goes different places. And everywhere he goes, people rush up to touch his feet and be around him.

00:54:03 ►

And then all these people

00:54:05 ►

bring him money and gifts

00:54:06 ►

and stuff,

00:54:06 ►

and he doesn’t have any use for that.

00:54:07 ►

He’s got no game going.

00:54:09 ►

So then these people

00:54:10 ►

who bring him the gifts,

00:54:11 ►

they set up foundations

00:54:12 ►

to take care of the gifts.

00:54:16 ►

And then they say to him,

00:54:18 ►

Maharaji, what should we do?

00:54:19 ►

And he comes and he points

00:54:20 ►

to a place and he says,

00:54:21 ►

we’ll have a temple

00:54:22 ►

because a great saint

00:54:24 ►

had lived in that cave.

00:54:25 ►

We’ll build a temple in the cave.

00:54:27 ►

And this teacher designs all of them,

00:54:29 ►

he architecturally designs them,

00:54:30 ►

supervised the building,

00:54:32 ►

ran the temples and the schools and the whole business.

00:54:34 ►

He taught me, he reads and writes,

00:54:36 ►

he’s silent, he’s been silent for 15 years,

00:54:38 ►

he reads and writes six or eight languages.

00:54:43 ►

He has many followers of his own.

00:54:45 ►

His food intake for 15 years,

00:54:47 ►

and I lived with him and I saw what he was taking,

00:54:50 ►

his food intake for 15 years was two glasses of milk a day.

00:54:54 ►

That’s it.

00:54:56 ►

He is a scrupulously honest, perfect guy.

00:55:00 ►

He is not, you wouldn’t consider him a realized being.

00:55:03 ►

He’s caught in what’s called the golden chain, the sattva chain, the chain of being pure. He’s being good. And he taught me, he taught me everything and he taught me so subtly. He taught me so subtly that I never knew I was being taught anything.

00:55:23 ►

he would walk in and I into my room where I was alone most of the time

00:55:25 ►

I ate alone, I lived alone and I was left

00:55:27 ►

very much with my thoughts

00:55:28 ►

right on the edge of freaking out all the time

00:55:30 ►

he’d walk in and he’d write on his slate

00:55:33 ►

if you wear shoe leather

00:55:36 ►

the whole earth

00:55:39 ►

is covered with leather

00:55:40 ►

and then he’d walk out

00:55:43 ►

then if you hadn’t gotten that message he felt you hadn’t gotten that message, he felt you hadn’t

00:55:47 ►

gotten that message, he’d send you another one. He’d say, if a pickpocket meets a saint, he’d write,

00:55:55 ►

he sees only his pockets. Then he’d leave for the day. And it was only later that I realized that he had taught me

00:56:05 ►

a very, very exquisitely

00:56:08 ►

articulated system

00:56:09 ►

that is

00:56:09 ►

several thousand years old

00:56:13 ►

at least,

00:56:13 ►

which is called

00:56:14 ►

Patanjali’s system

00:56:15 ►

of Ashtanga Yoga

00:56:16 ►

or Eight-Limb Yoga.

00:56:18 ►

It’s also sometimes

00:56:18 ►

known as Raji Yoga.

00:56:21 ►

Because I never thought

00:56:22 ►

he was teaching me anything.

00:56:23 ►

I thought we were just

00:56:24 ►

hanging out and he was saying these groovy things on his chalkboard.

00:56:28 ►

And he never gave me the feeling

00:56:29 ►

that he was saying anything to me that was new.

00:56:32 ►

It was all, sure, of course, you know,

00:56:34 ►

right, that’s the way it is.

00:56:37 ►

The yoga consists of eight limbs.

00:56:41 ►

The first two limbs are purification.

00:56:44 ►

The third limb concerns the body

00:56:46 ►

asanas which you sometimes know of as hatha yoga

00:56:49 ►

the fourth limb concerns pranayama or control of pran

00:56:52 ►

or life force or energy through breath control

00:56:56 ►

and the fifth through the eighth

00:56:59 ►

concern methods of controlling the mind

00:57:01 ►

and all I can say to you is

00:57:04 ►

as a reasonably competent social scientist,

00:57:09 ►

I have never yet seen such an exquisitely articulated system as that.

00:57:17 ►

And furthermore, I would say to you that it works.

00:57:22 ►

The schedule, the life I led in the temple, very simply, was I’d get up around 4.30 in the

00:57:27 ►

morning. I would go to the river to take my bath with a lota, pouring water over me, barefoot

00:57:34 ►

through the snow, rush back to the huddle by my coal brazier, do breath pranayama, do asanas, do

00:57:43 ►

meditation, take tea in the morning,

00:57:45 ►

meditate in the morning and read holy books.

00:57:48 ►

He would come and teach me around 11,

00:57:50 ►

then I would do more asanas, breathing,

00:57:52 ►

then I would take my meal for the day alone.

00:57:56 ►

Then I would rest and have fantasies of being somewhere else,

00:58:01 ►

like on the Riviera lying in the sun

00:58:03 ►

with a beautiful girl feeding me grapes.

00:58:08 ►

And then I would

00:58:09 ►

study some more

00:58:10 ►

or read or write

00:58:12 ►

and then people would come

00:58:13 ►

and would sing holy songs

00:58:14 ►

and then I would do

00:58:15 ►

breathing again

00:58:15 ►

and then asanas again

00:58:16 ►

and then meditation

00:58:17 ►

and I’d take some warm milk

00:58:18 ►

and I’d go to bed.

00:58:21 ►

And every now and then

00:58:23 ►

I’d be invited to go see

00:58:24 ►

Maharaji, the guru.

00:58:25 ►

And my life had that sameness about it, very simple, very austere,

00:58:29 ►

very delightful, very content.

00:58:37 ►

Now, I’m going to explain to you exactly what it is I now think.

00:58:47 ►

I’m going to talk to you from within this system system I’m going to explain to you how it all is

00:58:49 ►

and I’m going to remind you that there is a place in you

00:58:54 ►

that already knows everything I’m going to say

00:58:55 ►

as you’ll understand in a minute

00:58:56 ►

what the teacher wrote on the slate

00:59:01 ►

the first thing he wrote was

00:59:03 ►

desire is a trap desirelessness is moksha or liberation,

00:59:09 ►

desire is the creator, desire is the destroyer, desire is the universe.

00:59:17 ►

Desire is a trap, desirelessness is moksha or liberation,

00:59:23 ►

desire is the creator, desire is the destroy. Desire is the creator. Desire is the destroyer.

00:59:26 ►

Desire is the universe.

00:59:29 ►

Do you recall Buddha’s four noble truths?

00:59:33 ►

Buddha went and sat under the Bodhi tree

00:59:35 ►

in Bodh Gaya for seven days

00:59:38 ►

and he saw how it all was

00:59:40 ►

and then he came back to teach.

00:59:43 ►

And he said, who will I teach?

00:59:44 ►

And he thought,

00:59:48 ►

well, gee, I’ll lay it on the guys I used to hang out with when I was doing austerities.

00:59:52 ►

And they were at Sarnath at the Deer Park, and he went there, and they were all bugged with him because he was no longer doing austerities, because he wasn’t being pure like they were.

00:59:57 ►

And so when he came along, they said, let’s ignore him, because he’s not on the trip anymore.

01:00:02 ►

But he came up, and he was all all shiny and light was coming out of him.

01:00:06 ►

And so they found themselves,

01:00:07 ►

in spite of themselves, honoring him.

01:00:09 ►

And he sat down and he said,

01:00:11 ►

they said, we’re not going to listen to you though,

01:00:13 ►

because you don’t do the thing anymore.

01:00:16 ►

He says, well, I’m enlightened now.

01:00:18 ►

And they said, yeah, but you don’t do the thing.

01:00:20 ►

He said, but I never before told you I was enlightened.

01:00:22 ►

And now I’m telling you I’m enlightened.

01:00:24 ►

And I’m going to tell you how it is. And then he proceeded to

01:00:27 ►

lay on them how it is, with four truths.

01:00:32 ►

Truth number one, all life is

01:00:36 ►

suffering. That’s a hard one. What does that mean?

01:00:40 ►

Birth involves suffering, death involves suffering, sickness involves

01:00:44 ►

suffering, old age involves suffering, not getting what you want involves suffering, getting what you don’t want involves suffering.

01:00:53 ►

And he says even getting what you want involves suffering because it’s in time and it’s going to pass away.

01:00:59 ►

Say you want to be the playmate of the month, you become the playmate of the month, and next month you’re not the playmate of the month anymore.

01:01:00 ►

the playmate of the month,

01:01:02 ►

you become the playmate of the month,

01:01:02 ►

and next month you’re not the playmate of the month anymore.

01:01:07 ►

Lay not up treasures

01:01:08 ►

where moth and rust doth corrupt,

01:01:11 ►

was Christ’s way of saying it.

01:01:15 ►

Problem is, if it’s in time,

01:01:16 ►

you’re going to lose it.

01:01:17 ►

So even getting what you want

01:01:18 ►

has an element.

01:01:18 ►

It’s like riding a wave on surfing.

01:01:20 ►

The wave’s going to end,

01:01:21 ►

even in endless summer.

01:01:26 ►

His second noble truth was the cause of suffering is craving or desire.

01:01:32 ►

If you didn’t crave life, you wouldn’t fear death.

01:01:36 ►

You wouldn’t suffer.

01:01:37 ►

If you don’t crave something, you can’t suffer about it.

01:01:41 ►

The third noble truth is if you give up craving, you end suffering. And the fourth

01:01:48 ►

noble truth is the eightfold path or the means of giving up craving. Giving up craving, giving

01:01:54 ►

up desire. And now my teacher, who is a Hindu, is saying to me, desire is a trap, desirelessness

01:02:02 ►

is liberation, desirelessness is liberation. What does all that mean? What it means is extricating oneself from attachment. It means, quote, renunciation. And

01:02:12 ►

what does renunciation mean? To us Westerners, it means a guy like Milarepa sitting in a cave

01:02:16 ►

where he’s been eating green nettles, and he’s covered with nettle fur, and he looks like a bag

01:02:21 ►

of bones, and you’ve got to give up everything. Well, it has nothing necessarily to do

01:02:28 ►

with that at all. Because what is required

01:02:32 ►

on this trip is renunciation

01:02:35 ►

of attachment.

01:02:39 ►

Renunciation of attachment.

01:02:44 ►

Dropping out,

01:02:45 ►

not in the external sense,

01:02:47 ►

but in the internal sense.

01:02:49 ►

It doesn’t matter

01:02:49 ►

what the external trip is.

01:02:51 ►

Any one of them will do.

01:02:54 ►

It’s the internal process

01:02:56 ►

that changes.

01:03:00 ►

Now, how do you do that

01:03:02 ►

and what is that about?

01:03:03 ►

And how can I tell you

01:03:04 ►

how Maharaji reads my mind?

01:03:07 ►

Take this meditation.

01:03:08 ►

Remember I read you that thing about the 17-year-old Ramana Maharshi.

01:03:11 ►

Ramana Maharshi does Gyan Yoga,

01:03:13 ►

the yoga of the mind beating out the mind.

01:03:16 ►

It’s like Zen.

01:03:18 ►

And he says, do the following.

01:03:23 ►

And he says, just do it relentlessly.

01:03:29 ►

Sit down and follow the method of vichara atma, the method of self-inquiry. Sit down, you say, who am I? And then you say, I, until

01:03:37 ►

you have I placed in the middle of your head, and you can hear it in there, in the middle

01:03:40 ►

of your head, I, I, I, I. I’ll just take you quickly through it.

01:03:45 ►

We won’t do it at this moment. You say, I am not this body. And then you experience

01:03:51 ►

your torso as object and I as subject. I in the middle of your head. Then you say, I am

01:04:01 ►

not my five organs of motion. then you experience your arms as object

01:04:06 ►

your tongue as object, your legs as object

01:04:09 ►

your anal sphincter as object, your genitals as object

01:04:12 ►

with the eye in the middle of the head as subject

01:04:18 ►

you note them all, you note your arm

01:04:21 ►

doing its thing

01:04:22 ►

you note it then you say I am not my five senses.

01:04:30 ►

Now, you’ve all been in the situation where you’re in a room where a clock is ticking,

01:04:34 ►

and you start to read something, and you get so involved in what you’re reading, you don’t hear

01:04:37 ►

the clock tick. And then you finish reading, and suddenly the clock is ticking again.

01:04:42 ►

Well, that’s an involuntary example.

01:04:49 ►

You see, the clock continued to tick, your ear continued to hear the clock tick, but you were no longer attending to your ear hearing the clock tick. So at this point, you don’t

01:04:58 ►

turn it off, you just note your ear hearing, your eye seeing, your nose smelling, your tongue tasting, your skin feeling.

01:05:13 ►

Then you say, I am not my five internal organs, and you go through respiration and breath,

01:05:18 ►

and you digestion and excretion and perspiration and circulation.

01:05:23 ►

Each of them you either fantasy it or experience it as object.

01:05:26 ►

And then you come to the stinker, the clincher, the powerful one.

01:05:29 ►

The key to the whole thing.

01:05:31 ►

When you’ve done all that, and it may take you months to get to that place,

01:05:36 ►

then you say, I am not this thought.

01:05:41 ►

What thought? The thought of I. I am not that thought.

01:05:46 ►

And you begin to see your thoughts as if you were looking at a ticker tape news thing going by you. I am not this thought. What thought

01:05:51 ►

am I not? The thought of I. Here I am. Where’s here I am? Here I am is over there. Where

01:06:00 ►

am I? Where am I? And if you can play this one out, at that point you have gone behind

01:06:09 ►

your senses and behind your thinking mind, and you pass through a doorway, and you enter

01:06:19 ►

into another state of consciousness. And another state of consciousness is discontinuous

01:06:26 ►

with your normal waking state of consciousness.

01:06:29 ►

William James, the philosopher, said,

01:06:31 ►

our normal consciousness, our normal waking consciousness,

01:06:35 ►

is but one special type of consciousness.

01:06:38 ►

Whilst all about it, parted from it by the filmiest of screens,

01:06:43 ►

there lie other types of consciousness

01:06:45 ►

quite different,

01:06:46 ►

each having its own field

01:06:48 ►

of application and adaptation.

01:06:51 ►

No account of the universe

01:06:52 ►

in its totality is complete,

01:06:54 ►

which fails to take into account

01:06:55 ►

these other types of mentality.

01:06:58 ►

But how to consider them

01:06:59 ►

is the question,

01:07:01 ►

for they are so discontinuous

01:07:03 ►

with our normal waking state

01:07:04 ►

of consciousness.

01:07:05 ►

And so on. And you go through a doorway at that point into another state of consciousness.

01:07:15 ►

Now, if you are able to do that, where is it you go to? You go into a thing which is

01:07:23 ►

called samadhi, that’s one name for it. You go into a low level is called samadhi that’s one name for it

01:07:25 ►

you go into a low level of samadhi

01:07:27 ►

and there are eight or nine stages of this

01:07:29 ►

keep that in mind for a moment

01:07:33 ►

let me introduce another metaphor to you

01:07:35 ►

a metaphor in the western framework

01:07:37 ►

think of a solid object

01:07:40 ►

mass as a pattern of energy

01:07:43 ►

we know that, we’re hip, sophisticated people.

01:07:46 ►

We know that. We know that though this seems solid, it is in fact a pattern of slowed down

01:07:54 ►

light. It just seems solid to our particular sense receptors. Now imagine if this is a

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pattern of energy, then light is also a pattern of energy, sound is a pattern of energy, thought is a pattern of energy.

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And what then is energy? And you get into a finer and finer form of energy because behind that one there’s another one, and behind that one there’s another one, and behind that one there’s another one.

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and you finally get down to the state of energy that is so fine,

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it is no longer unique.

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It’s no longer unique.

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That is, if you think of an atom as having electrons and neutrons and so on, protons,

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even the electron, which has a uniqueness to it,

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is made up of some of these, a pattern of these finer things.

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And the quality of these finer things is that they are everywhere. Anything you can label, call it

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vacuum, call it space, call it ashtray, call it thought, call it emotions, call it Mars, it’s all

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this made up of this same thing. Are you with me? Have you got the image? If you are now aware that

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behind everything there is this very fine energy, and’s all interchangeable and it’s constantly moving in and out of everything, you begin to understand that we are a solid. This is solid. It’s all solid.

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of that energy.

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This is made up of that energy.

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That flame is made up

01:09:22 ►

of that energy.

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Tomorrow is made up

01:09:24 ►

of the energy.

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Yesterday is made up

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of the energy.

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And it’s all just

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interchanging

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and it’s not unique at all.

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Now the thing,

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the next statement

01:09:33 ►

that is worthy

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of some reflection

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is that that type

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of energy,

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which is the finest

01:09:38 ►

form of energy

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that is

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in the world of form,

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what’s called Praki, or many names,

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that very fine form of energy is an identity with,

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not equal to, but an identity with consciousness.

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Not self-consciousness, but consciousness.

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That means that when you extricate yourself

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from the time-space locus

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of this body

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these thoughts

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this set of senses

01:10:10 ►

you

01:10:12 ►

what you call me

01:10:13 ►

that I

01:10:14 ►

that I experienced

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when I first took psilocybin

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the Ramana Maharshi experience

01:10:17 ►

when he thought he was going to die

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that I that has nothing to do

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with this body

01:10:20 ►

this personality

01:10:21 ►

this whole trip

01:10:22 ►

what is that? That is that energy. And

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it is known in Sanskrit as sat-cit-ananda. You enter into a state of sat-cit-ananda.

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And sat-cit-ananda means absolute existence, absolute knowledge, and absolute bliss.

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Now, that’s a big one, and let me just clarify who you really are,

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because you may want to know just what it means to be God.

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Take Ananda.

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That’s a groovy one to take, bliss.

01:11:05 ►

You go surfing.

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You get to just that place on the wave where it’s all perfect.

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You’ve just got the wave.

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You’re just riding the place

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on the wave. Perfect.

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Yeah, right. Here we are.

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Oh, is that good.

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It’s that timeless moment. You’re right there.

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You paint a picture and you get to the

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place where the picture is just coming

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out itself and it’s perfect. It’s just the

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way it’s supposed to be. Yeah, right.

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You’re doing a scientific research

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project and you see a relationship.

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Oh, wow.

01:11:40 ►

Yeah.

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You get a degree

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and everybody’s proud of you. Oh, yeah. You get a degree and everybody’s proud of you.

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Oh, yeah, you get a moment of that thing again.

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That feeling, for a quick second, it’s all right.

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Yeah.

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Oh, it’s so good.

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The method that most Westerners are most familiar with

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for getting to that little place

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is, of course, the sexual experience.

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Because at the moment of orgasm,

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you transcend, albeit briefly for most Westerners,

01:12:14 ►

you transcend your ego.

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And it becomes merely an experience

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in which there happen to be four legs and four arms and two heads

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and movement. And you are part of an experience and

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there is a moment in there when you say yeah oh right i just like to stay right at this place

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you all know the place

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it’s called fulfillment it’s called contentment it’s called a feeling of well-being it’s called fulfillment. It’s called contentment. It’s called a feeling of well-being.

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It’s called it’s all right with the universe.

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It’s called, yeah, it’s called is-ness.

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We’ve got lots of names for it.

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It’s unnameable.

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It’s a state.

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It’s a state of being.

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It has nothing to do with doing.

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It’s a state of being.

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It’s a moment.

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It’s an eternal moment. It’s outside of time.

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of being. It’s a moment. It’s an eternal moment. It’s outside of time. That place which you identify with your method of getting there. So if you’re a surfer, you say, baby, all

01:13:14 ►

I want to do for the rest of my life is surf. And if you’re a sexual gymnast, you say, oh,

01:13:20 ►

man, all I want to do is make out forever. Or whatever your particular turn-on method is

01:13:26 ►

to get you to that place.

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And when you say, you turn me on,

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or that scene turns me on,

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you mean it allows me to touch that place again.

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But the funny thing is that the place is inside of you.

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The place is not connected with your method.

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It’s not out there.

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When you say you fall in love with somebody,

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it means that they are a stimulus

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which turns you on to that place. Now you’ve got to understand that Satchitananda means living in that place all the time.

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state of consciousness he’s in, I begin to understand he’s in what’s called sahaja samadhi.

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He is living in a state of perpetual, total, ecstatic sexual union with the entire universe at every moment. Is that enough? That’s known as ananda. Chit, which means absolute knowledge.

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He sits there absolutely mindless.

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There’s not a thought in his head.

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He’s not sitting around thinking,

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I think I’ll lay on him about his mother’s spleen.

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That’ll really blow his mind.

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There’s no ego there at all.

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He’s just absolutely sitting there mindless.

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And out of my needs comes that particular thing.

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And here’s the extraordinary issue of what renunciation or surrender is about,

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because it’s so beautiful.

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He is sitting there mindlessless and out this thing comes.

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In other words,

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he has become that kind of energy

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so he is my mother’s spleen

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as well as everything else in the universe.

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It’s all interchangeable.

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It’s all interrelated.

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It is all one.

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It’s known as the clear white light

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in some systems.

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It is a complete homogeneous field

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in which when you’re hooked up, you’re in it all.

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You are it all. That’s what chit is.

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But the point is, he doesn’t

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know he knows.

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Because there’s nobody around to know

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he knows.

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You hear that?

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You give

01:15:42 ►

up knowing you know

01:15:43 ►

to be it all.

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And the surrender is the surrender of the guy who knows.

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And the Westerner is not about ready to do that.

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Because he wants to know he knows.

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And what the Westerner is on is what’s known as the asymptotic curve of the subtle sphere.

01:16:08 ►

It’s a curve that never meets the place, but it sucks you in further and further and further,

01:16:13 ►

because you almost know you know.

01:16:19 ►

You get very far out, you see so much, you begin to see…

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I had a friend, Aldous Huxley, who was in one of

01:16:27 ►

these places. And finally, he was down to practically one word. I mean, he’s had a beautiful

01:16:34 ►

command of language, but he was, everything was blowing his mind all the time. And he was

01:16:37 ►

going around and all he’d say was, extraordinary. Everything he would look at.

01:16:45 ►

Anything.

01:16:46 ►

Extraordinary.

01:16:47 ►

He was seeing how it all was

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and he was gassed

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by seeing how it all was.

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But finally,

01:16:53 ►

you’ve got to give that one up too.

01:16:55 ►

You see?

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And the problem,

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the thing that’s so interesting

01:16:58 ►

is when you start to go into samadhi,

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the first thing you go into

01:17:00 ►

are these waves of bliss

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like you’ve never had before.

01:17:03 ►

Oh, God, it’s so good. Oh, boy.

01:17:09 ►

And why not hang out here, man? This is pretty good.

01:17:12 ►

But the Vedas say, keep going, baby. Don’t stop now.

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The problem is you’ve got to give up the experiencer.

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The experiencer of bliss is still

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separate from the bliss. And and finally you become the bliss

01:17:26 ►

the knower is separate from the knowledge

01:17:30 ►

finally you give up the knower to be the knowledge

01:17:32 ►

the here and now is separate from he who is thinking about

01:17:37 ►

or experiencing the here and now

01:17:38 ►

so finally you give up him

01:17:40 ►

it is surrender

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but the rules of the game say that you can only surrender when

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there is no surrender. That is, if you think you’ve given something up, forget it. Forget for example I am a practicing yogi

01:18:08 ►

and I love root beer

01:18:10 ►

now root beer is not listed by the Vedas

01:18:14 ►

as one of the foods that yogis eat

01:18:15 ►

and I am a beginner on the trip

01:18:20 ►

I am in the first of many years of training

01:18:22 ►

and I still like root beer

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now I can sit in my meditation room and I could look so holy butter would

01:18:29 ►

melt in my mouth I mean I really look like Buddha himself except all the time

01:18:34 ►

I’m thinking about root beer

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well if I’m thinking about I might as well drink it but every time I drink it

01:18:46 ►

I strengthen the whole habit

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of drinking it

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but if I don’t drink it

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I sit and think about it

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so sometimes I’m sitting

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in the meditation room

01:18:57 ►

and I’m just sitting

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and I’m very zonked out

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and the next moment I notice

01:18:59 ►

I’m at my father’s refrigerator

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holding a bottle of root beer

01:19:02 ►

drinking it

01:19:02 ►

and at first I go through,

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oh, damn it,

01:19:06 ►

she’s drinking root beer again.

01:19:10 ►

And then I see that

01:19:11 ►

putting myself down for drinking the root beer

01:19:12 ►

is just another form of attachment too.

01:19:18 ►

Ramana Maharishi says,

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instead of sitting around wailing

01:19:20 ►

and saying, alas, I am a sinner,

01:19:21 ►

get on with it.

01:19:23 ►

If you spent all that energy

01:19:24 ►

doing your thing,

01:19:25 ►

you’d all be enlightened.

01:19:28 ►

So all you can do is develop a place in yourself

01:19:31 ►

which is called the witness,

01:19:34 ►

which notes it, which says,

01:19:35 ►

there he is drinking root beer,

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there he is putting himself down for drinking root beer.

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This is what is known as karma yoga.

01:19:45 ►

this is what is known as karma yoga because what extricating yourself

01:19:49 ►

from desire and attachment doesn’t mean

01:19:51 ►

it doesn’t mean that you stop having the desires

01:19:53 ►

or in some ways fulfilling them

01:19:55 ►

it means you stop being identified with he who is having the desires

01:19:59 ►

if I am not my body

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that every time I make the statement I am sleepy sleepy, I am hungry, these are lies.

01:20:06 ►

You understand that?

01:20:09 ►

Do you understand what is required then?

01:20:11 ►

What is required is a complete reorganization of your entire thought process.

01:20:17 ►

Because you’re thinking from one vantage point,

01:20:20 ►

and if you’re going to make it, you’re going to be thinking from another vantage point.

01:20:22 ►

You’ve got to change your perceptual viewpoint,

01:20:27 ►

your cognitive conceptual core,

01:20:31 ►

and all those funny words.

01:20:36 ►

And yoga is a technique.

01:20:38 ►

Yoga means union.

01:20:39 ►

It is a technique designed.

01:20:41 ►

All the different yogas, and there are many different yogas,

01:20:43 ►

are each designed to take you

01:20:46 ►

and to work with various aspects of your being

01:20:49 ►

to take you to the place where you are in this other vantage point.

01:20:56 ►

Because our problem primarily is

01:20:58 ►

that our minds are completely out of control.

01:21:01 ►

Absolutely out of control.

01:21:02 ►

Vivekananda likens our minds to drunken monkeys.

01:21:04 ►

of control absolutely out of control viva canada likens our minds to drunken monkeys

01:21:10 ►

i mean you just think of what’s happening to your own thoughts at this moment you listen to me for a moment you’re aware you’re hot you think about the time you feel your body

01:21:14 ►

you feel perspiration you wonder about something your thought goes off somewhere else you’re aware

01:21:18 ►

you’re next to a neighbor you think about later you remember before you wonder what use this will

01:21:22 ►

be to you i mean i can pick up thousands of things, and you know all of them.

01:21:25 ►

We’re all thinking lots and lots and lots, and they just go and buy just like that.

01:21:33 ►

And the funny thing that has happened in the West, and now in the world,

01:21:38 ►

is that the rational mind, which is the highest tool that man has

01:21:44 ►

for gaining enlightenment,

01:21:46 ►

is also the most powerful trap, it turns out.

01:21:52 ►

And what has happened is our minds,

01:21:54 ►

which are in effect servants, have become masters.

01:22:00 ►

I mean, if at this moment

01:22:02 ►

a naked girl walked out of that room

01:22:06 ►

and walked up here,

01:22:07 ►

all your consciousnesses would be copped.

01:22:10 ►

She’d just take all your consciousnesses with her.

01:22:12 ►

Maybe one person here would be able

01:22:14 ►

to just keep right on with, you know,

01:22:15 ►

here we are.

01:22:17 ►

Yes, and that too, and here we are.

01:22:20 ►

Everybody would go on the trip

01:22:21 ►

because you’re completely at the whim

01:22:22 ►

of your stimulus input.

01:22:26 ►

You are your senses. You are your senses.

01:22:28 ►

You are your thoughts.

01:22:31 ►

And the game is to calm your mind down

01:22:35 ►

so that you are no longer your senses and your thoughts.

01:22:39 ►

In that way, you are free of them

01:22:41 ►

and then they become the servants they were meant to be

01:22:43 ►

and you can use the exquisite response mechanism that is the brain and thought for what it’s supposed to be used for

01:22:48 ►

without it running the ship if you went to salon to become enlightened and you went into a

01:22:55 ►

terravadan monastery you would walk in and you’d say i want to become enlightened you see and they’d

01:23:01 ►

say well that’s very nice and they take you to a little room you go into the room and they’d say, well that’s very nice and they’d take you to a little room you’d go into the room and they’d say, now would you notice

01:23:07 ►

that when you breathe in, your abdomen goes up

01:23:10 ►

and when you breathe out, your abdomen goes down

01:23:13 ►

and you, yes I noticed that

01:23:16 ►

continue to notice that

01:23:19 ►

thank you, and they leave you

01:23:21 ►

food’s brought to you, two weeks later

01:23:24 ►

guy comes in, how are you doing doing with

01:23:28 ►

what you’ve been watching your abdomen go up and down well I watched for you didn’t mean I was but

01:23:34 ►

thank you very much that’s the work all right now let’s say your only assignment in life is

01:23:44 ►

to watch your abdomen go up and down.

01:23:46 ►

And every time it goes up, you think rising,

01:23:48 ►

and every time it goes down, you think falling.

01:23:50 ►

That’s your job.

01:23:53 ►

See, like I do this every morning.

01:23:56 ►

I sit in meditation, and I start out.

01:24:00 ►

And since I’m a high Western achiever, I count.

01:24:04 ►

And I know how hung up I am when I begin,

01:24:06 ►

so I know I’m going to have to do 500 to get straight today.

01:24:09 ►

Or 1,000 to get straight today.

01:24:11 ►

Aum 1.

01:24:16 ►

Aum 2.

01:24:20 ►

Aum 3.

01:24:23 ►

Aum 4.

01:24:25 ►

What an idiotic thing to be doing.

01:24:28 ►

OM 5.

01:24:31 ►

OM 6.

01:24:34 ►

Jeez, my leg hurts.

01:24:36 ►

OM 7.

01:24:39 ►

OM 8.

01:24:40 ►

I should have gone to the bathroom before.

01:24:43 ►

OM 9

01:24:45 ►

01:24:47 ►

01:24:48 ►

OM 11, you think this works?

01:24:52 ►

OM 12

01:24:53 ►

for this I got a PhD

01:24:56 ►

OM 13

01:24:57 ►

and on and on and on

01:24:59 ►

now what happens is, I’m just giving you

01:25:02 ►

the little thoughts you can flick off, see

01:25:03 ►

but the really seductive ones, they really take you on the trip you see, like you hear there’s a noise outside and you say, what happens is, I’m just giving you the little thoughts you can flick off, see, but the really seductive ones, they really take you on the trip, you see.

01:25:07 ►

Like, you hear, there’s a noise outside, and you say, what was that?

01:25:09 ►

See, and that seems like a legitimate reason.

01:25:12 ►

And you can keep right on counting, and you’re thinking about what is it, and who is it,

01:25:15 ►

and that leads you to that thing, and I’ve got to get the car greased, and you’re off and running, see.

01:25:21 ►

And then you wait, oh, wow, I was supposed to be counting to five.

01:25:27 ►

Suddenly, at 93, how did I get here, see, don’t knock yourself, that’s just more jazz, 94, 95, 96, and then pretty soon you get so

01:25:35 ►

that the breaks are only like about 60 instead of 100, you see, where you forgot, and you keep

01:25:40 ►

pushing it down and pushing it down and pushing it down. You take this most mechanical, stupid thing, see?

01:25:46 ►

That’s exactly what you need to foil the mind, is just simplicity itself.

01:25:51 ►

And your game is to treat all thoughts like clouds.

01:25:54 ►

There is not one thought worthy of having during that period of time other than rising and falling.

01:25:59 ►

Or you’re counting.

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And after a while, when you really get good at it it you get down to a place where all there is

01:26:06 ►

is that place in your abdomen going up, coming down

01:26:09 ►

going up, coming down

01:26:11 ►

going up, coming down

01:26:13 ►

and in your head is rising, falling

01:26:18 ►

rising, falling

01:26:21 ►

rising, falling

01:26:23 ►

but before that happens,

01:26:26 ►

you get to the point where you see

01:26:27 ►

the thousands of thoughts going by,

01:26:29 ►

just like clouds in the sky, just going over.

01:26:32 ►

But the thing is that because of your commitment,

01:26:34 ►

they have no leverage to hold you.

01:26:36 ►

While previously, every thought had as much right

01:26:39 ►

as every other thought to hold you.

01:26:41 ►

Why did you give preeminence to one over another?

01:26:46 ►

And it’s only

01:26:47 ►

when you can make your mind

01:26:48 ►

thoroughly one-pointed,

01:26:50 ►

bring it down to one place.

01:26:52 ►

This is the first requirement

01:26:53 ►

of this game.

01:26:56 ►

The first requirement of the game

01:26:57 ►

is to bring the mind down

01:26:57 ►

to one-pointed.

01:27:00 ►

And then the game is

01:27:01 ►

to work with the energies

01:27:03 ►

in the body

01:27:04 ►

and learn how to control them and move them up your spine and through your nerves and so on. And then the game is to work with the energies in the body and learn how to control them and move them up your spine

01:27:06 ►

And through your nerves and so on and then you turn

01:27:09 ►

Push the energy through that one point in this and turn the one point is back in on itself and you go through the doorway

01:27:16 ►

So what the game is is you go from many subjects and many objects to one subject and many objects

01:27:22 ►

To making that subject object and it all becomes subject

01:27:26 ►

You grok it all right you are one with it all that’s the root that’s the root of gyan yoga

01:27:34 ►

the yoga of the intellect you see when you’ve been getting high lots and you know where high

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is highville heliopolis uh you know the place satchitananda you know that it has certain

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qualities one is that it is not in time it is not in time it’s in eternal time the other is that

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it’s not in there is no subject and object there’s no subject and object so if you want to create the universe of high to live in

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you’ve got to work with time

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and you’ve got to work with subject-object

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I’m just giving these as clues

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we won’t get into that at the moment

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except to say this, that the first purification things

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in what I’m doing include

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the first one is non-killing non-stealing non-lying

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non-giving and receiving of gifts and sexual continence we the continents one is too big a

01:28:32 ►

topic to play with at this moment but let’s take to the others because they all fit together

01:28:39 ►

if i have anything going in my head that keeps you him we cannot be high together because if we’re

01:28:49 ►

going to be high together we’ve got to be us and as long as there is subject

01:28:54 ►

object it won’t work now imagine what it is like to live in a world where

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everybody is us everybody is us there’s no is us. There’s no them at all.

01:29:06 ►

There’s no them at all.

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This is a big one.

01:29:10 ►

This is a very big one.

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This is a very big clue.

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It’s a clue.

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It is a clue.

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Time and subject-object are two major clues to becoming a conscious being at this moment.

01:29:22 ►

Take sex.

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There are three levels at which you can have sex

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there is Sam and Mary

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making it with each other

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your personality turns me on

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an interpersonal thing

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are you happy, was it fun, did you enjoy it

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etc

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we’re having fun together

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there is the yin yang

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the level of polarization of forces, the biological magnetic fields.

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Both of those are subject-object.

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Those are both what the Easterners mean by the word lust.

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That is, desiring something in the subject-object sense.

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There is a third level at which the two of us become one

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and from this one place

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one consciousness and two bodies

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then we perform a dance

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and that dance

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creates the energy which we feed in

01:30:15 ►

to keep us as one

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can you hear that

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that’s very very high

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stuff, very high stuff

01:30:23 ►

very high stuff

01:30:24 ►

anything in you which makes you see somebody else as him or her That’s very, very high stuff. Very high stuff. Very high stuff.

01:30:29 ►

Anything in you which makes you see somebody else as him or her is the reason you’re not high all the time.

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Is the reason you are not conscious all the time.

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Consciousness all the time means total compassion

01:30:40 ►

for how it is in the universe at every moment.

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Compassion means total empathy with how it

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all is. It means grokking it. Just as you understand how your hand works, you understand how it all is

01:30:53 ►

because you are it all, because your ego is not getting in the way, because your desires are not

01:30:57 ►

distorting what it’s all about, because you are not identified with your desires. If you are horny

01:31:03 ►

and walk down the street, all you see is what’s makeable.

01:31:07 ►

If you’re hungry and walk down the street,

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all you see is what’s edible.

01:31:12 ►

If you’re an achiever and you walk down the street,

01:31:14 ►

all you see is who’s competitive with

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or what you can achieve on, about.

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Desires, motives affect perception

01:31:25 ►

and we know that from social psychology

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the only thing in social psychology that we don’t know

01:31:30 ►

is that there’s an out

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I was teaching from a social psychology book

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which was a good, respectable social psychology book

01:31:37 ►

just seven years ago

01:31:38 ►

that said man is the sum of his social roles

01:31:40 ►

wow, I dig that

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it’s rough karma. See, and the funny, peculiar position we’re caught in

01:31:52 ►

is that many of us have touched a possibility and we are awake to how beautiful it is and we

01:31:58 ►

want it to be beautiful, but we want it so bad that our want, our desire corrupts our efforts.

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That’s the situation we find ourselves in.

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Because it is as obvious as the nose on one’s face when you look at protests

01:32:14 ►

that the protesters create the people just against whom they protest.

01:32:19 ►

That as long as you are identified in the polarity

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and attached at the polarized position,

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you create your polar opposite.

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If I see you as him,

01:32:30 ►

that puts into you a reaction that sees me as him,

01:32:33 ►

and there we are, separate.

01:32:36 ►

And only can I say I disagree with you

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when I understand that you and I are one.

01:32:42 ►

And that’s the basis from which I’m working.

01:32:45 ►

Only when you can say, yes, Richard Nixon

01:32:48 ►

is us, and J. Edgar Hoover

01:32:50 ►

is us, and Mao

01:32:52 ►

is us, and Chow Min is us,

01:32:54 ►

and on and on and on.

01:32:57 ►

And the hippie

01:32:58 ►

is us, and the speed freak is

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us, and the heroin addict is us, and the

01:33:02 ►

psychotic is us,

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then we can get on with it. It’s a reversal of figure and ground it’s going from the position where you

01:33:09 ►

are completely addicted to individual differences which is what the Western

01:33:13 ►

trip is to the point where you and I use Western trip only to mean rational

01:33:17 ►

materialism it is not unique to the West except it’s the Greek Roman trip except

01:33:22 ►

for some of the mystical elements in Plato and Heraclitus. And as long

01:33:29 ►

as you’re into individual differences, you’re into subject and object, and you flip it over

01:33:32 ►

and you see in which they are all the same. I’m driving along in New York State, and a

01:33:36 ►

policeman stops me because I’ve got a very old 1938 car, and it looks weird, and I’ve

01:33:41 ►

got a long beard, and I look funny, and I’ve got a funny license plate, and it’s weird and I’ve got a long beard and I look funny and I’ve got a funny license plate

01:33:45 ►

and it’s all strange

01:33:46 ►

and there’s a stop and frisk law

01:33:47 ►

and so he stops me.

01:33:50 ►

And he comes up

01:33:51 ►

and he says license and registration

01:33:53 ►

and he is being him.

01:33:54 ►

He’s being policeman.

01:33:56 ►

What I am doing

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is doing my mantra.

01:33:59 ►

I’m doing a centering device,

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a heuristic device

01:34:02 ►

for keeping me centered

01:34:03 ►

in the place where we

01:34:05 ►

are one. And I handed my license and registration, and at the same moment I am here. I am not

01:34:14 ►

identified with him who is handing the license and registration. This is going to be very

01:34:20 ►

pure, or if it doesn’t work, I’ll tell you, by the way. I don’t come on to him to look how beautiful I am.

01:34:26 ►

I’m a flower child or, you know,

01:34:28 ►

why are you a policeman?

01:34:30 ►

Come on, be groovy.

01:34:31 ►

No, no hustle.

01:34:32 ►

I don’t say a word.

01:34:33 ►

We never miss a step in the Lila Rasa,

01:34:36 ►

in the divine dance.

01:34:37 ►

He’s doing his policeman thing.

01:34:39 ►

I’m doing my far out unusual person.

01:34:42 ►

I’m just kindly giving him my license.

01:34:44 ►

And he says, do you have any guns in the car

01:34:46 ►

and I say no I don’t have any guns in the car

01:34:50 ►

any drugs in the car

01:34:52 ►

no I don’t have any drugs in the car

01:34:53 ►

what’s in that

01:34:55 ►

and I say these are some mints

01:34:56 ►

would you like a mint

01:34:57 ►

and all the time I’m right here

01:34:59 ►

right here

01:35:00 ►

it’s a psychic place

01:35:03 ►

it’s a vibrational rate, by the way,

01:35:06 ►

I’m talking about.

01:35:08 ►

I am right here.

01:35:10 ►

And after about three minutes,

01:35:13 ►

he begins to dig he’s in the wrong place.

01:35:16 ►

Because he’s busy being a policeman.

01:35:20 ►

But the fact is that all of us are busy with our melodramas.

01:35:23 ►

We’re all in Peyton Place, you see.

01:35:27 ►

But behind our roles in Peyton Place,

01:35:29 ►

which were just determined by central casting for the evening,

01:35:33 ►

there are a lot of parts for audience tonight.

01:35:35 ►

Who wants to play?

01:35:37 ►

Come over as audience? All right.

01:35:39 ►

We need one holy man left over from Christmas.

01:35:43 ►

The end of the evening, take your bread and go home.

01:35:45 ►

It’s all over.

01:35:46 ►

Great.

01:35:47 ►

We played our parts well.

01:35:48 ►

Everybody playing their part?

01:35:49 ►

Are you busy listening?

01:35:51 ►

Watch it.

01:35:52 ►

Don’t get caught.

01:35:53 ►

Just because you’re going to play Hamlet,

01:35:54 ►

don’t be Hamlet.

01:35:56 ►

Because here we all are.

01:35:58 ►

All of us are right here in a place

01:35:59 ►

where we are noting him speaking

01:36:01 ►

and him listening and her listening.

01:36:07 ►

You can be in the melodrama or you can see the melodrama going down,

01:36:10 ►

and here we all are too, right?

01:36:13 ►

This is a psychic space.

01:36:16 ►

I’m just doing my…

01:36:17 ►

Inside, the funny thing is, all the time I’m talking to you,

01:36:20 ►

I’m not talking to you at all.

01:36:22 ►

I mean, it’s very far out and you may feel gypped. He never came that night

01:36:35 ►

Watch it

01:36:41 ►

Because inside all I’m doing is which I’ve been doing

01:36:50 ►

for about a year and a half

01:36:51 ►

and it’s going on

01:36:52 ►

in my bowels

01:36:53 ►

and it’s like

01:36:54 ►

inflating a room

01:36:55 ►

inside me where I am

01:36:56 ►

it’s like a cave

01:36:57 ►

it’s a groovy heart cave

01:36:58 ►

it’s called a hridayam

01:37:00 ►

and I hang out in the cave

01:37:01 ►

and I hang out with Buddha

01:37:02 ►

with Christ

01:37:04 ►

with Ramakrishna with Ramana Maharshi with anybody else that wants to come out of their melod I hang out in the cave, and I hang out with Buddha, with Christ, with Ramakrishna, with Ramana Maharshi, with anybody else that wants to come out of their melodrama

01:37:08 ►

and be in the cave.

01:37:10 ►

It’s not located in time and space.

01:37:14 ►

And here I am, and I’m watching this whole thing go down.

01:37:16 ►

I’m watching him speak.

01:37:22 ►

So I’m with the policeman, and pretty soon he begins to sense that there is a nicer place to be than where he is.

01:37:28 ►

Right here.

01:37:34 ►

All I can say is, as I drove away, which is very unlike state troopers,

01:37:39 ►

he was waving at me, saying,

01:37:41 ►

Goodbye, Richard, have a good trip.

01:37:41 ►

waving at me, saying,

01:37:43 ►

Goodbye, Richard. Have a good trip.

01:37:51 ►

Because finally, we’re dealing with the variables that concern just humanness.

01:37:53 ►

They don’t concern individual differences anymore.

01:37:56 ►

The toughest deputy sheriff

01:37:58 ►

in the southern community in the United States,

01:38:01 ►

the meanest guy that eats nails,

01:38:04 ►

still wants to live in love. He wants to live eats nails, still wants to live in love.

01:38:06 ►

He wants to live in warmth.

01:38:07 ►

He wants to live in beauty.

01:38:08 ►

He wants to feel that feeling.

01:38:15 ►

And what technology and what our rational materialism

01:38:19 ►

and what the manifestation of all of our thought

01:38:21 ►

has led us to believe is that through gratification

01:38:24 ►

of the senses

01:38:25 ►

and through the thinking mind, we would get to that place.

01:38:28 ►

But finally we begin to realize it’s not going to make it.

01:38:32 ►

And at that point, it starts to fall away.

01:38:38 ►

And then you start to go inside, and then you find out, lo and behold, in here, here

01:38:42 ►

we all are again.

01:38:43 ►

Except we’re really here.

01:38:46 ►

We’re really here.

01:38:49 ►

Really here.

01:38:53 ►

All the Westerner needs is the faith in the possibility

01:38:58 ►

of a higher state of consciousness

01:39:01 ►

to equal the faith he has had in his rational mind.

01:39:06 ►

And slightly greater than that in order to allow him to equal the faith he has had in his rational mind. And slightly greater than that

01:39:07 ►

in order to allow him

01:39:08 ►

to do the next step.

01:39:10 ►

Without that faith,

01:39:12 ►

nothing can happen.

01:39:14 ►

It’s got to be a faith

01:39:15 ►

which undercuts the cynicism.

01:39:17 ►

The cynicism says

01:39:18 ►

there’s nothing more

01:39:19 ►

than this round, baby,

01:39:20 ►

so take what you can get.

01:39:22 ►

Because when you die, you’re dead.

01:39:25 ►

Die, you’re dead

01:39:36 ►

but who in fact we are has nothing whatsoever to do with that it’s very much like you were in a factory in Detroit and you drove out of the factory

01:39:40 ►

or a factory that makes cars and you drove out of the factory and the door

01:39:43 ►

closed on the factory and you found yourself in

01:39:45 ►

the existential predicament

01:39:48 ►

Except you didn’t know who you were because everything you forgot when the door closed you forgot everything preceding that so all there is is this car

01:39:55 ►

and

01:39:56 ►

The gate opens and you drive on the road and for years you drive on the roads and you stop at gas stations and drive-ins

01:40:02 ►

And so on if somebody says who are you you, I am a Chevrolet Corvair. And you look at fields, but you can’t go there

01:40:13 ►

because you break your springs. And when you go by those car lots where they take cars and they

01:40:17 ►

make them in little steel squares, you get uptight because planned obsolescence and all.

01:40:22 ►

and planned obsolescence and all.

01:40:26 ►

And then a voice comes along and says,

01:40:28 ►

hey, buddy, did you ever see that?

01:40:30 ►

Say, what’s that?

01:40:33 ►

That’s a door handle.

01:40:34 ►

What’s that for?

01:40:36 ►

Well, that’s to get out of the car.

01:40:38 ►

What do you mean, get out of the car?

01:40:40 ►

Who? I am a Chevrolet Closet.

01:40:41 ►

Come on, now.

01:40:42 ►

What are you doing putting me on?

01:40:45 ►

No, man. Come on now. What are you doing putting me on? No, man.

01:40:46 ►

That’s the illusion.

01:40:48 ►

That’s the illusion that keeps nature

01:40:49 ►

doing its dance.

01:40:52 ►

You can open the door

01:40:53 ►

and get out.

01:40:58 ►

That’s exactly the way it is.

01:41:00 ►

Exactly the way it is.

01:41:01 ►

And remember,

01:41:02 ►

this has nothing to do

01:41:03 ►

with what you do

01:41:03 ►

in the external world.

01:41:04 ►

Don’t get into funny places about it’s not socially responsible. Because

01:41:10 ►

whoever it is that’s sitting here is sitting here doing his thing. Got here on time? He’s

01:41:18 ►

a rent-a-robot. I move him from place to place. He’s like Charlie McCarthy gone. I watch with awe as this terrible beauty of nature goes down.

01:41:29 ►

All of it.

01:41:30 ►

All of it.

01:41:30 ►

Life, death, birth, love, hate.

01:41:33 ►

All the polarity.

01:41:36 ►

You know what’s another identity with energy and consciousness is the word love.

01:41:41 ►

An exact identity.

01:41:43 ►

In fact, when you get to the top of the pyramid, they all become

01:41:46 ►

one. That’s what Plato’s pure idea is. That’s that place back up there. Love, energy, consciousness,

01:41:51 ►

truth, beauty, wisdom, it all becomes one at that place.

01:41:57 ►

Mehababa says, a very beautiful saint from India,

01:42:03 ►

This is a very beautiful saint from India.

01:42:07 ►

Love has to spring spontaneously from within,

01:42:11 ►

and it is in no way amenable to any form of inner or outer force.

01:42:15 ►

Love and coercion can never go together,

01:42:18 ►

but though love cannot be forced on anyone,

01:42:22 ►

it can be awakened in him through love itself.

01:42:25 ►

Love is essentially self-communicative.

01:42:29 ►

Those who do not have it catch it from those who have it.

01:42:33 ►

True love is unconquerable and irresistible,

01:42:37 ►

and it goes on gathering power and spreading itself until eventually it transforms everyone whom it touches.

01:42:43 ►

Being is dying by loving is a true statement.

01:42:48 ►

That is the statement of bhakti yoga,

01:42:50 ►

the yoga of love, of devotion.

01:42:53 ►

If you ever have experienced being so in love with somebody

01:42:57 ►

that you are more concerned about their happiness than your own,

01:43:02 ►

you loved yourself right out of your egocentricity

01:43:05 ►

you understand bhakti yoga

01:43:08 ►

because the minute you turn that to loving in another person

01:43:12 ►

or in the universe, that which is universal

01:43:15 ►

rather than that which is finite

01:43:16 ►

you don’t love Mary because she’s Mary

01:43:19 ►

you don’t love Mary because she’s got a beautiful bod

01:43:21 ►

you love Mary because she’s God

01:43:23 ►

and you honor her and worship her,

01:43:26 ►

and you’re making love to her as a form of worship.

01:43:29 ►

And everything else you do all day long,

01:43:32 ►

in everything, 24 hours a day,

01:43:34 ►

is a form of worship of making the profane sacred.

01:43:37 ►

That’s what it’s all about.

01:43:40 ►

You want to be high?

01:43:41 ►

Just change your consciousness around.

01:43:44 ►

You want it bad enough, you’ll do it.

01:43:47 ►

It’s work, but it’s totally joyful work.

01:43:49 ►

Imagine all you’ve got to do is love everything.

01:43:51 ►

That’s not bad.

01:43:53 ►

But you see, the funny thing is, it is not the verb love,

01:43:55 ►

because the verb love takes an object.

01:43:57 ►

Love who?

01:43:59 ►

If I love that thing in Mary which is God, what is it that loves it?

01:44:03 ►

It’s the thing in me which is God, and that thing is one.

01:44:05 ►

In fact, the rule of the game,

01:44:06 ►

the statement I can also make is,

01:44:08 ►

if you know who you are and I know who I am,

01:44:11 ►

at this moment in this auditorium,

01:44:13 ►

there is only one of us.

01:44:16 ►

There is only one of us.

01:44:18 ►

And all these manifestations.

01:44:22 ►

See?

01:44:22 ►

And here I am.

01:44:24 ►

All of us. Here we are. Here I am. We, I, is the same. So

01:44:32 ►

when you are loving, and the game again, you see, is you’ve got to love yourself so much

01:44:36 ►

that you can be loved, because it’s the sea of love. When you say, I am in love, it’s like being in a tub. Come on into love.

01:44:47 ►

It’s an extraordinary place you get.

01:44:50 ►

Because once you get beyond, once you see your personality even,

01:44:54 ►

is merely like the fenders on the Chevrolet Corvair.

01:44:56 ►

You understand that?

01:44:58 ►

All of the melodrama of the neurosis and, oh, such a problem.

01:45:03 ►

Wow.

01:45:06 ►

I mean, then mental health work is like a fender repair.

01:45:11 ►

Because that isn’t who we are anyway.

01:45:13 ►

Why don’t we just get on with it?

01:45:15 ►

Everybody I meet now is the same person.

01:45:17 ►

How do you like that?

01:45:19 ►

We’re all us and here we are again.

01:45:22 ►

Right?

01:45:23 ►

You want to get caught in your melodrama? Groovy.

01:45:25 ►

But I’m going to keep centering so I don’t get caught

01:45:28 ►

in it with you. I will love you

01:45:29 ►

and honor you and feel great compassion for your melodrama

01:45:32 ►

but no matter how melodramatic it is

01:45:33 ►

I’m not going to go on the trip this time.

01:45:36 ►

I’m not even going to go on my own trip.

01:45:38 ►

I’m not even interested

01:45:39 ►

in this melodrama.

01:45:42 ►

Because it’s just another shock.

01:45:44 ►

It’s just another drama.

01:45:47 ►

I’ve seen Peyton

01:45:47 ►

place until it’s coming out of my ears.

01:45:51 ►

Will he

01:45:52 ►

graduate? Will he come

01:45:53 ►

off drugs? Shall I

01:45:56 ►

give up my virginity?

01:46:00 ►

Will I find a great thing

01:46:02 ►

in research? Will he

01:46:04 ►

become enlightened?

01:46:07 ►

What should I eat for breakfast?

01:46:10 ►

Should I cut my hair or let it grow?

01:46:13 ►

Wow, it’s so heavy.

01:46:14 ►

Oh, God.

01:46:16 ►

I mean, we do it all, but let’s not get caught in it.

01:46:19 ►

Come on now.

01:46:20 ►

Come on now, let’s be here.

01:46:28 ►

You never have to miss a step. You don you have to go to the Himalayas you don’t to drop out you have to do anything you just have to become

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conscious it’s as simple as that just get on with it just find a center until

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you have a center you’re just a mechanical response mechanism you come

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into this class you sit down somebody somebody draws you on board, think this, you think that.

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Fifty minutes, the bell rings, you go out, turn left in the maze, now eat now.

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Groovy.

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Well, I’ll make a choice. I’ll have to decide whether I’m going to pursue your path or not.

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Come on now.

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More melodrama.

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There’s no choices.

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There’s no choices at all.

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You’re living in a totally deterministic system.

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Karma is.

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Even the illusion of choice is just illusion.

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There’s only freedom when you’re a fully conscious being.

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You’re not free.

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Choices are only apparent choices.

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It’s all worked out.

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I mean, I’ve been hanging out with this cat in the Himalayas who knows the future.

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He can say, on next Tuesday, this is going to happen.

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How can he say that if there are any accidents in the universe?

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So when he say this, let me give you one more.

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There are no accidents in the universe.

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No accident can possibly happen, because any plan you can think of about how it all works,

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there’s a plan behind that one too.

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And if you get really cool in Egyptian, see, you’ll dig that plan.

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And then there’s another one.

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Just to lay a few more little things for you to play with in the ride home.

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Rational man is not the highest being on the evolutionary ladder at this moment so you can rest easy and the next level of being is neither benevolent nor malevolent

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so you don’t have to get your ray gun to beat him off when you meet him on mars

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the physical universe as we know it is a more trivial part of the cosmos

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desire creates your universe it is only your desire that is keeping you receiving only that

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information which keeps you in the illusion that there is a reality which is a physical reality

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just as if we had a television set up here, and we tune it to channel 7, as far as that

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television is concerned, there is only channel 7. Channel 9 doesn’t even exist for the television

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set. Now you tune it to channel 9, and suddenly channel 9 only exists for the television set,

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and 7 doesn’t exist. What happened to 7? It doesn’t exist. In this room at this moment,

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doesn’t exist.

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In this room at this moment,

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there’s channel 7 and there’s 9,

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or whatever those channels are in Vancouver.

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But we’re not receiving them because our receivers are tuned in a certain way.

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Because one of the qualities of the fact

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that you are in a human birth at this point

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means that your receiver was tuned a certain way.

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It was preset.

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It’s preset. But it’s not preset in a human birth at this point, means that your receiver was tuned a certain way. It was preset. It’s preset.

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But it’s not preset in a final way.

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You can adjust it.

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And I can sit with my guru brother,

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who’s the guy from Laguna Beach,

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and he is sitting in the room right next to me,

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and he’s talking to a guy in front of him

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that I don’t even see.

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Well, one of us has lost his marbles, man.

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Who’s crazy, him or me? I mean, there’s a cat he’s talking to, and I don’t even see

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the guy. It’s like he’s tuned to channel 9, I’m tuned to channel 7. The final place one

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gets to is that one has a dial that is completely flexible, and you can bring in all levels at all times and you see how it is at every level all the time. Because what in fact is going on is you are living at a

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certain vibrational rate and that’s what makes it all seem real to you. And you change that

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vibrational rate just a tiny bit and all this is gone and something else is here. All this is gone.

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Somebody says to me, well, what would

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happen if everybody became enlightened? Well, this would all

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not exist, because this all exists because of our

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desire.

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See how that works?

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But don’t get scared, because, you know,

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if you want it, you’ll keep it.

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That’s the way it works.

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No rush.

01:50:45 ►

We’ve got eternity.

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Except ye be converted

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and become as little children,

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you shall not enter

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the kingdom of heaven.

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I just want you to appreciate

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that it turns out

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that the Bible is real.

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It’s not a metaphor.

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It’s not a groovy story to teach us something.

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It does, and it is, of course.

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But it’s real.

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I mean, guys really do open the Red Sea and wither the fig trees.

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And when Christ says,

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Hedge ye but faith ye could move mountains, that’s true.

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It’s all connected with vibrational rates,

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and once you understand the whole secret of mantra

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and sound and moving with different sounds

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and visions and visual fields and mandalas and so on,

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you begin to see it all falls into place

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and that there are just these different levels

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of vibrational rates,

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and the first level out is what’s called heaven and hell

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in the Christian world. That’s one level out there’s six more after that

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but krishna says in the bhagavad-gita if you want to go to heaven groovy go to heaven it’s another

01:51:54 ►

desire place you want to be lord of the wind great we’ll make you lord of the wind how long

01:52:00 ►

ten thousand years sure now you’re done with that one? Now what?

01:52:08 ►

Now I want to know how it all is. Groovy will take you to the causal plane.

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Now you see how it all is, now what?

01:52:15 ►

There’s no rush. You’ve got to live out all your desires. Don’t rush. It’s all going to happen.

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It’s a much bigger trip than you thought it might have been.

01:52:23 ►

And no matter how big you get it it’s bigger than that one too

01:52:30 ►

and the way it the way the the hindu system which is takes care of every bit of data that i ever collected in seven years of taking lsd and all the other drugs and talking to

01:52:35 ►

all the people who i talked to the thousands of them who laid their stories upon me

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and then the experience with these beings in ind, I suddenly, I see now about these planes of vibration

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or these planes of reality,

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and see that there is a physical plane,

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and then there is what’s called an astral plane,

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and then there is what we can call a causal plane,

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and then behind that is a place where it all is like,

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like what’s called negative energy or negative, you know, antimatter.

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Antimatter. The void. Nirvana.

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Behind even antimatter, perhaps.

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And the first place that you come into from the void into form is the yin-yang,

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and it’s what’s called the Godhead. It’s the first consciousness.

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It’s the highest place on the causal plane,

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which is the world of pure idea,

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and that’s the mind out of which it all comes,

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and that’s the one we really meet when we talk about God.

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And finally, you are that mind.

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You are that consciousness.

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And when you begin to see how your desire is creating a universe anyway,

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you see you already are.

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That’s all that’s going on at every level.

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Desire is creating the universe.

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At one point I asked my teacher

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what LSD was

01:53:50 ►

and he took about two weeks

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and then he wrote back on a slate

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and he said,

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LSD is like a Christ in America

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which is awakening the young folk

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in Kali Yuga.

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America is a most materialistic country,

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therefore God has shown his avatar

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in a form of LSD, a material.

01:54:05 ►

They wanted a material for approaching God and they his avatar in a form of LSD, a material. They wanted a material for approaching God, and they got it in the form of LSD.

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A man who has not tasted things thinking as true, how he will get the feeling of those things?

01:54:19 ►

In other words, psychedelics show a possibility, but beyond that you still have a lot of stuff to do once

01:54:27 ►

you’ve seen the possibility you can go back and back and back to see the possibility but that’s

01:54:30 ►

just going back to see the possibility because finally you got to get on with it you got to get

01:54:36 ►

your scene like in order you know what it means out of time no subject object it’s pretty straight

01:54:49 ►

means, out of time, no subject object, it’s pretty straight. Get your body straight, calm your mind down, just get on with it. You know where it is. Just do it. But you can’t do it just because you

01:54:57 ►

think you ought to do it. You’ve got to do it because there’s nothing else to do. The only

01:55:00 ►

reason I do what I do is because there’s nothing else to do. Because once you’ve seen how it is, you might as well get on with it.

01:55:07 ►

What else am I going to do?

01:55:08 ►

I think I’ll make believe there is no such thing.

01:55:11 ►

I think I’ll go to a cocktail party.

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Yeah.

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Oh, this one again.

01:55:18 ►

Boy, this is a hard one.

01:55:20 ►

Isn’t this interesting?

01:55:22 ►

No.

01:55:22 ►

No.

01:55:21 ►

Isn’t this interesting?

01:55:22 ►

No.

01:55:30 ►

How can I say it so it’s scary enough to show you how real it is?

01:55:34 ►

I can say, I love every human being I meet as much as I’ve ever loved anybody in my life,

01:55:37 ►

and I am completely indifferent as to whether I ever see them again.

01:55:43 ►

I can say that when I am alone, it is quite sufficient.

01:55:47 ►

And when I am with somebody else, it makes no difference.

01:55:49 ►

How about that one?

01:55:56 ►

How about the one that nothing I can receive in through my senses is as high as what goes on inside?

01:55:59 ►

That’s an interesting one.

01:56:03 ►

These are fierce ones, aren’t they?

01:56:06 ►

Fierce ones.

01:56:07 ►

Does becoming,

01:56:08 ►

working towards

01:56:09 ►

enlightenment

01:56:09 ►

change your life?

01:56:10 ►

Of course it changes

01:56:10 ►

your life.

01:56:14 ►

It doesn’t,

01:56:15 ►

interestingly enough,

01:56:16 ►

change your sense

01:56:17 ►

of social responsibility,

01:56:18 ►

but the issue

01:56:18 ►

of social responsibility

01:56:19 ►

is a very,

01:56:20 ►

very subtle issue

01:56:21 ►

because, in fact,

01:56:23 ►

a mechanical man

01:56:24 ►

cannot be very

01:56:24 ►

socially responsible anyway. Because he has the least idea a very, very subtle issue because, in fact, a mechanical man cannot be very socially

01:56:25 ►

responsible anyway

01:56:26 ►

because he has no least idea

01:56:29 ►

of what the effects

01:56:30 ►

of his acts are.

01:56:32 ►

I mean, a guy that goes

01:56:33 ►

charging angrily

01:56:34 ►

down the street

01:56:35 ►

screaming for peace

01:56:36 ►

is sending out

01:56:38 ►

a set of vibrations

01:56:39 ►

that are, in effect,

01:56:40 ►

creating war.

01:56:42 ►

Poor cat,

01:56:43 ►

he doesn’t even know that.

01:56:45 ►

He’s so busy doing his thing.

01:56:46 ►

He’s so busy in his melodrama.

01:56:47 ►

It’s us against them.

01:56:50 ►

I’ve seen enough westerns.

01:56:54 ►

You know.

01:56:55 ►

Here we are.

01:56:56 ►

Let’s get on with it.

01:56:58 ►

Let’s get on with it.

01:56:59 ►

It’s very heavy.

01:57:00 ►

Very heavy.

01:57:02 ►

Tatha Upanishad say,

01:57:03 ►

Not many hear of him

01:57:04 ►

and of those not many reach him.

01:57:06 ►

Wonderful is he who can teach about him

01:57:08 ►

and wise is he who can be taught.

01:57:10 ►

Wonderful is he who knows him when taught.

01:57:14 ►

And the last thing I will end with this evening

01:57:17 ►

01:57:18 ►

a poem that was found

01:57:23 ►

on a 16th century Norman crucifix.

01:57:31 ►

I am the great sun,

01:57:34 ►

but you do not see me.

01:57:40 ►

I am your husband,

01:57:43 ►

but you turn away.

01:57:46 ►

I am your husband, but you turn away. I am the captive, but you do not free me.

01:57:53 ►

I am the captain, you will not obey.

01:58:00 ►

I am the truth, but you will not believe me.

01:58:07 ►

I am that city where you will not stay.

01:58:13 ►

I am your wife, your child, but you will leave me.

01:58:21 ►

I am that God to whom you will not pray.

01:58:27 ►

I am your counsel,

01:58:29 ►

but you do not hear me.

01:58:32 ►

I am your lover

01:58:33 ►

that you will betray.

01:58:39 ►

I am your life,

01:58:42 ►

but if you will not name me, seal up your soul with tears and never blame me.

01:58:59 ►

In India, when people meet and part, they say something which is a reminder of how it is.

01:59:08 ►

Most of them have forgotten its meaning.

01:59:11 ►

They say namaste, namaste

01:59:14 ►

or namaskar, namaste

01:59:17 ►

which means I honor the light within you.

01:59:21 ►

I honor that which is the atman

01:59:23 ►

or the light or God within you. So let that which is the Atman, or the light, or God within you.

01:59:27 ►

So let me say to all of us, Namaste.

01:59:33 ►

And for now, this is Lorenzo, signing off

01:59:36 ►

from Cyberdelic Space. Namaste, my friends. Thanks for watching! you

⚗️ alembic

Explorer

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