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Greetings from cyberdelic space.

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This is Lorenzo and I’m your host here in the psychedelic salon.

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And I think that you’re going to get a lot

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of ideas out of today’s program because it focuses on some of the things that one can take away from

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an ayahuasca experience. It’s a talk that was given this year in Byron’s Bay, Australia by

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Rak Razam. And I’m sure that you’re going to remember Rack from his 2014 Palenque Norte lecture that I podcast earlier this year.

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Now, after we listen to Rack, in addition to a few comments about what he has to say,

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I’ll also be letting you know about a couple of movies that I think you’re going to be interested in.

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But now, here is Rack Razam.

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Thank you, Ali Ma.

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And, yeah, I’m really glad to be back here in Byron Bay and Starseed

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and to be supporting your initiative.

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It’s a really great idea.

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The Amazon does need all our help, and not just the Amazon,

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but, you know, we all need help,

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and we all need to help each other helping each other.

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And, you know, basically these conventions and gatherings and discussions

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are such a great nodal point for us to cluster and to come together

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and to meet each other and to recognise each other and to do this work.

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And this work is so important, not just on an individual level,

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but also on a macro level in what we do once we have been engaging with the planned medicines,

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we have been doing our individual healing,

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and collectively that means that we can come together as healed individuals

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which can then make responsible decisions of how we want to live our lives

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and how we want to form societies and tribes and groups

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to go forward and to bring in this sort of new paradigm thought, this energy that’s coming

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in, to be sustainable, to be joyous, and to be responsible citizens of this galactic ecology

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that we live in.

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Alima invited me to come here and talk, and I don’t have a prepared talk so I’m going

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to do what I do best and just stream what comes to me from divine consciousness. I have

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just returned from the Amazon jungle. As Ali Ma mentioned I have done a documentary called

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Aira Awakenings which started off as a book called Our Awakenings, which started off as a 3,000

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word article for a freelance magazine, which shall not be mentioned.

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In 2006, I’ve been on this path now for almost over nine years, it’ll be nine years in June.

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What is the path?

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You could say the shaman’s path, you could say the spiritual path.

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Specifically working with the plant medicines,

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I think it’s a path of awakening.

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It really is something that tribal people all over the world

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have retained the knowledge of.

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Terence McKenna has this beautiful little phrase,

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I mean, Terence, right, Terence,

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the great Moses of modern psychedelic culture,

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the one who has brought back a lot of information

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and soundb bites and memes,

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for us to digest and to ruminate on

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and to make our own

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and to figure out not just what they meant

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but how to implement them.

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One of his many beautiful phrases was,

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you know, plan, plant, planet.

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And embedded in that is this idea

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that the planet as an organism

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is working through the plants to implement its plan

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and there is a plan.

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And so indigenous cultures all over the world

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have retained to a large degree their connection with the planet.

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They have themselves and their lives on the earth

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and they’re engaging with the planet and the earth

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and the biorhythms and the seasons and the plants

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and they understand energy

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and they understand cycles of time and rhythms.

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It’s almost like permaculture.

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But it’s this sense of,

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almost as if societies themselves,

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which engage in this one-on-one with the planet,

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it’s almost planet culture, planet permaculture.

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And so I first went down to Peru in 2006,

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and I was chasing this story on what was this mythic archetype of the shaman.

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Now, in classical anthropology, they’ll tell you things like,

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there is no such thing as shaman,

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according to most of the indigenous cultures in the world.

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It came from this classic text, Shamanism, by Mersa Eliade in the 1960s when he was looking at the Siberian shaman, the Samans,

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and their work with the Amanita muscaria mushrooms.

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And they’ve applied that in a Western sense,

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almost like a brand name to apply to medicine people across the world.

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But medicine people all across the world have their own names for what they do,

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but essentially they are medicine people.

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They work with their different plants, not all of them psychoactive,

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the vast majority are not psychoactive,

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but they work with what the earth gives them,

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the bounty of the earth, the living organism of the earth,

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which gives us everything we need

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if we know how to give and take responsibly

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and not just take, take, take,

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as Western culture has in its egocentric drive

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towards civilization has been doing

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over the march of his story of history.

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So this idea of connection to the planet and this idea that there’s a

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plan, there is a right relationship that we can have with the planet in which we are fed.

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We are fed on a physical level, our bodies, but we can also be fed spiritually by almost

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like the chi or the ambient energy of the planet herself if we’re in right relationship.

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Many of these plants that the medicine people use all across the world are for healing, and some of them, the very select ones, are entheogenic,

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which is from the Greek for the divine within, something in the plant which invokes this

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sense of spiritual awareness or spiritual presence of the divine.

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Now all this language is Western, but this is a real experiential, tangible thing.

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When you engage with the plant medicines of all different varieties, whether that’s

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the ayahuasca, the San Pedro cactus, the salvia, the acacias, the morning glory seeds, cannabis, even tobacco.

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All of these things and more have been considered sacred plants by indigenous cultures across the world

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and they’re to be used in a right way.

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There’s a right relationship to establish with them.

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So the medicine people, the shamans, have retained this knowledge

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and I was going down to Peru in search of what

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the South American version of the ayahuasca movement and what the shaman meant in the

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21st century. And so nine years later, I have a very different perception of what that is.

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It’s the same. In a nutshell, many of you probably are aware there’s been this rise

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in what I call resurgence in global shamanism,

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which is essentially a Western pursuit because the indigenous peoples never lost this.

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They’ve had an unbroken thread for the cultures

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which weren’t conquered or extinguished,

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and they’ve managed to retain this ability and this knowledge

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of how to heal with the plants

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and to use not just medicinally for healing physically,

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but how to connect spiritually to the dimensions that these substances can open up.

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And that’s one of the other roles of the shaman.

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It’s not just healer.

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It can be walker between the worlds, traveller between the worlds,

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psychopomp, someone who goes and retrieves his soul from the other worlds,

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or gains knowledge to work on behalf of the patient.

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But this idea of healing is really important in the traditional role of healer.

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And in 2006, when I was documenting this in the book, Aya Awakenings,

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even back then, there was this groundswell of interest from Westerners across the world

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who were coming in search of ayahuasca and the healing it could provide.

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And not all of them were physically sick. who were coming in search of ayahuasca and the healing it could provide.

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And not all of them were physically sick.

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In fact, probably the vast majority,

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there’s been a lot of documentation with the science of ayahuasca and what it’s doing,

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and also with people going down to work on ailments, physical ailments,

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all the way up to things like cancer and AIDS

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or other types of conditions they may have.

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It’s not just ayahuasca,

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it’s basically reconnecting to the flow of life.

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And by being in the jungles and being on dieta, by retreating from the world and a lot of

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the toxins and poisons that the Western culture imbues in us, away from the electromagnetic

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frequencies, away from the sugars and the salts and the

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alcohol and just all those things which are really affecting not just our physical bodies

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but also our vibrational bodies.

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In the cosmovision or the world paradigm of the Peruvians, they believe that we have a

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physical body, we have an emotional body, we have an

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energy body.

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There’s all these layers to our true being.

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And that sickness begins at these core realms, at these inner realms.

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And that as we go through life, we have experiences, we have joys, but we also have hurts and wounds

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and instances where we vibrationally stall.

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Like we’re either open or we’re contracting.

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And in that contraction time, we store a lot of this negativity

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and some of those things which are stored can fester and wound

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and grow over time and develop a sickness.

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So a lot of the curanderos,

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which is what the indigenous shamans of the Amazon region call themselves,

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it’s from the Spanish, to cure or to heal,

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they do a lot of their work with ayahuasca

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and a multitude of other medicinal plants to heal their patients.

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In Peru, the city I’ve been most to,

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the area I’ve been to most in Peru is in Quito.

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There’s a few little hotbeds of shamanic activity.

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And it’s interesting because one of the previous talks

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was mentioning the Mama Lacta family in Ecuador.

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And for whatever reasons, you know,

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cultural vectors that have happened,

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Peru seems to have gotten the brunt of ayahuasca tourism

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over the last 20 years or so.

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It’s one of the first countries to open up lodges

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specifically designed to cater to westerners

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to go down and experience ayahuasca

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and it has snowballed

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in the last 20 plus years

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to an industry, you know, and I’m now

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involved in this industry and there’s a lot

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of light and a lot of dark in this industry

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as a lot of money is accruing

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and a lot of people are going down

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and to essentially very poor communities

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but this idea of people getting healed a lot of people are going down and to essentially very poor communities.

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But this idea of people getting healed,

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a lot of people are going for physical healing,

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but the vast majority of people who I’ve met and who I’ve documented and interviewed and reported on

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are going for something related but slightly different.

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There’s this very tangible sense in Western culture

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that we are disenchanted.

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We have fallen out of right relationship with the planet and with ourselves. And this sense

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of aloneness or this sense of disconnection has resulted in a spiritual sickness. I mean,

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to the degree that most of Western material culture doesn’t even agree on the word spirit. It

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all has to be reduced to a mechanistic view of reality, and they might agree that there’s

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a bioelectric field in our bodies, but they still not only don’t agree, but they still

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don’t really know where consciousness comes from, and they won’t entertain this idea that

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consciousness can extend beyond the body,

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which is one of the central tenets of shamanism,

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that you can extend beyond the body and you can experience the cosmic ecology of what you live in,

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that the web of life continues beyond the physical plane into the astral realms

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and into the inner space dimensions all the way up and in.

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And there’s this vast territory of the terra incognita,

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the invisible landscape, that the indigenous peoples

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and the shamans across the world have been mapping

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and also holding space for to keep the awareness

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and the flow of energy which continues from the physical realm

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all the way up into the invisible landscapes.

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So this sense of spiritual disconnection has

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affected all of the West, you know. It’s come through all of our recorded history, and the

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vast majority of Westerners I’ve encountered have been going down to Peru in search of

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ayahuasca, not for a physical healing, but for this reconnection, this sense of connection

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to what, you must ask. Well, in my experience with ayahuasca, there’s multiple levels to this.

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Ayahuasca is a purgative.

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It can heal you on a physical level or help facilitate your own healing on a physical level.

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One of the things I think that gets overlooked in the momentum and the global fad that ayahuasca has become

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is that it’s not a one-peel, one-shop cure for everything.

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It works to engage with you and to reveal your own true nature,

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and you then work on your own healing.

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Ayahuasca does have physical effects

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where it can purge out some physical things from your body.

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A lot of the indigenous cultures still use it

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because in the Amazon basin they’re getting infections from the water

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or infections from mosquitoes and other creatures that exist.

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And so it can be purging out,

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helping you release all those physical toxins and infections you might have.

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The one good scientific study that’s been done on ayahuasca back in the 1990s,

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the Hawaska Project, which was done by Charles Grob and Dennis McKenna and others,

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was looking at church members of one of the ayahuasca churches,

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the Inayol, the vegetal,

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and they looked at the ways that it was helping cleanse

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not just the physical body,

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but on a more mental or neuronal level,

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it was helping almost defrag the

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neuronal structure and re-link up

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the synaptic pathways. It seems

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essentially that as a medicine, ayahuasca

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helps cleanse and reset

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the mind and the body

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back to optimal conditions.

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That’s one layer of

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healing. Another layer that’s happening

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has been recent studies, legal studies across the world by

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different organisations and NGOs

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where they’ve been looking at things like

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LSD, psilocybin mushrooms and

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ayahuasca on what it’s doing

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in a clinical setting and they’ve

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discovered that these substances,

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the psychoactives, seem to turn

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off these regional clusters of the brain

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called the default mode network

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and it’s

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interlocking regions of the brain called the default mode network and it’s uh interlocking

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regions of the brain which collectively give us this sense of ego and identity and make up this

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sense of the eye that we think we are but we’re not we’re not just that thing but when those

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things are turned off the default mode network essentially uh the mind at large is open to the

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full gamut of consciousness,

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the full spectrum of consciousness.

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And so part of the healing that can come when these things are turned off with ayahuasca especially

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is that a lot of unconscious material floats to the surface.

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And that can be in a visionary state, in a dreamlike state

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where the dimethyltryptamine in the ayahuasca brew

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can help potentiate your own dimethyltryptamine in the ayahuasca brew can help potentiate your own

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dimethyltryptamine in the brain, and you can have a very visionary experience.

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A lot of those visions are thought to be cathartic.

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They’re thought to be related to processing almost like day residues in the way that the

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brain will visualize in dreams and things like that.

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A lot of the other visionary material in the ayahuasca experience seems to be very cosmic and seems to be very outside the individual experience.

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If we look at other mind maps like Jung,

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who had this idea that you have the day residues as level one in your dreaming state,

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then you might have a collective unconscious

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where you’re in this reservoir or pool of shared consciousness so you may be

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meeting someone else in your dream or you may be drawing upon cultural archetypes or cultural

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sort of noble points that’s all merging together on the second level and then on a deeper sort of

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level there’s maybe the species unconscious or the interspecies

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unconscious or the canvas of the astral where all those top levels are embedded upon and so you know

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ayahuasca and dimethyltryptamine can take you to many many different realms this type of journey

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and this journeying into the realms is more specifically the role of the shaman as psychopomp

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or the traveller between the worlds.

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And interestingly enough, this seems to be where a lot of the Western interest lies.

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A lot of curanderos have been sort of confused by this sense that, you know,

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tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of Westerners

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are going down to the Amazon basin to take ayahuasca,

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not in search of physical healing,

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but to connect to this idea that there’s something more.

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There’s something more than what Western culture

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and materialism has taught them.

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And that something more is this connection to spirit.

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And what is spirit and what is great spirit,

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as some indigenous cultures have called it in North America?

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Essentially, I believe it’s the planetary spirit itself.

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You know, it’s what James Lovelock termed Gaia,

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the Greek goddess of the earth.

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It’s this idea that in indigenous culture in South America,

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they call it Pachamama.

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And every indigenous culture will have different language for this.

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They have, all across the world, languages of relationship

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where they will call the earth

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and the earth spirits and the sun and the moon

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and the stars and the water.

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They will have names for it.

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And those names are sort of familial.

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They’re interlocking like family

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names. Pachamama is

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one of the names for the earth itself.

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So this brings

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up this whole idea of the web of life.

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So many times in ayahuasca, what has happened to me

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and to the people I’ve talked to,

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is this feeling that I transcend or we transcend our individual shells

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and we start to connect to the greater spiritual ecology,

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the web of life that is all around.

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And when you’re in the jungle, you’re in a malacca,

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you’re in an ayahuasca ceremony in the dark in Shipibo-type style,

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and the curandero is singing the icaros and driving the energy of the ceremony

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and steering your consciousness in that ceremony,

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you can just explode into this multidimensional reality

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that becomes more real than

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real, as real as this

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but a lot of these

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states of mind, you have to let

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go of the intellect because it’s not

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just about that. I mean

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the creator, the great

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spirit gave us this vehicle

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and in this vehicle with our consciousness

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we have more than just what the west has been

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rewarding, there’s more than just the intellect and the ego.

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When the ego is gone and the default mode network is off,

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and the full spectrum of consciousness arises and merges back

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into the web of life and the full field of being,

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that’s when the juicy stuff really starts happening, right?

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And so this web of life, we are part of.

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And, okay, I’ll come back to some of my recent experiences in the jungle.

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Before, about a month ago or so, there was this beautiful Mexican doctor

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and shamanic practitioner, Octavio Reti, who came to Byron Bay

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and blew a circuit in our shamanic culture here

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with the 5-MeO-DMT medicine of the snoring desert toad,

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which is the Bufitinine in the toad, it’s a different medicine.

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It comes from this toad that occurs in North America and into Mesoamerica.

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And as I mentioned at the start, there’s many, many different psychoactives,

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many different entheogens, and the planet herself secretes them.

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Terence McKenna had this idea that the psychoactive plants

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are actually like, he called them exo-pheromones,

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this idea that nature communicates in a chemical language

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between the species, and that’s how nature switches on and switches off

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different species to act as messengers to fulfill the larger plan that she is initiating and carrying through all the creatures.

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Because we are all her.

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It’s like we’re like fingers, individual units that start to recognize we’re connected to a hand.

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And then all of a sudden you realize the hand’s connected to the elbow.

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And then you realize, my God, there’s this giant larger being that we are part of and with shamanic medicines like ayahuasca and the other

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entheogens they can wipe clean the veil and they can reveal this connection and so uh after i had

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done this frog medicine this toad medicine with Octavia already about a month ago,

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I went down to the Amazon and I had forgotten.

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I kept thinking it was an extremely, extremely profound and powerful experience.

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It was very much beyond most ayahuasca journeys.

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But the reason I mention it is because I’ve just come back. After nine years of working in ayahuasca culture globally,

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writing the book, which was two books and became the film,

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I’m now facilitating ayahuasca retreats in Peru every three months or so

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with a very, very beautiful, trusted curandero, Percy Garcia.

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And I went into ceremony with Percy Garcia like three weeks ago or something

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with a group of Westerners I was leading,

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and most of them were doing ayahuasca for the first time.

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And, you know, we do all the introductory speeches,

00:22:13

we do the duty of care, we get everyone prepped,

00:22:15

and, you know, a lot of it is this fear of the unknown,

00:22:18

of like, well, what’s going to happen?

00:22:20

And, you know, a lot of people have read the books or seen the films

00:22:23

and they’ve intellectually known,

00:22:25

but as I said before, it’s more than just the intellect.

00:22:27

We have an imagination, which in old magical terms,

00:22:32

the imagination is more than just daydreaming or thinking things up.

00:22:36

It’s how the will carves out the future,

00:22:40

how you carve out the possibilities of all the different probability fields of where things could go.

00:22:45

And if you hold what you want to manifest with your imagination, then you can anchor

00:22:50

it and you can make things happen.

00:22:52

You can make reality bend to your will because it’s interactive and it listens.

00:22:58

You might not always get it, but if you know the protocols and take the right steps, you’re

00:23:02

on the right road to manifest.

00:23:06

the protocols and take the right steps, you’re on the right road to manifest. So you have the intellect, the imagination, and you have the intuition. And for me, I believe this is one of

00:23:12

the core, most crucial tools in your shamanic toolkit, is that when you’re in these spaces,

00:23:18

it’s not just about the visionary state and it’s not just about the healing, it’s really about

00:23:23

what the freak is happening.

00:23:26

And the only way to really know what is happening in this knowing sense is to feel into it.

00:23:32

And you have to use your intuition. It’s like your intuition is empathic and in these

00:23:40

realms you’re basically telepathic. You’re like skinned, you know, and you’re raw in the astral plane.

00:23:48

And you probably may encounter entities that live on that astral plane.

00:23:53

In Western psychological senses, they will say these are artifacts of your subconscious

00:23:59

and representations of whatever’s going on in you.

00:24:02

To some degree, they may be.

00:24:04

This is the challenge of our generation

00:24:05

to sort the fact from the fiction,

00:24:08

to not just take on board the indigenous people’s dogma,

00:24:11

but to honour their wisdom,

00:24:12

to realise that they have generations,

00:24:15

if not thousands of years of wisdom

00:24:17

handed down from tribe to tribe

00:24:19

and curandero to curandero.

00:24:21

And to a large degree, they know what’s going on.

00:24:24

The issues are what’s going on

00:24:26

for them is colored through their perception their world paradigm their view and we have a fresh

00:24:32

perspective that can be very valuable to look at it and not dismiss it but to also try to figure out

00:24:38

what’s happening with us and it’s not just the intellect it’s the intuition so going into these

00:24:43

realms the intuition is your best friend

00:24:45

because there’s some telepathic type of exchange

00:24:49

which is how you communicate in this realm, in that space.

00:24:52

And there’s a knowing, and you might encounter aspects of yourself,

00:24:56

you might work through all your emotional traumas,

00:24:59

you might cascade through all your loved ones and say hi

00:25:02

and work through all your relationships.

00:25:04

These are sort of the processing that happens

00:25:06

as part of the cleansing of the body

00:25:08

to prepare for going higher and higher into the realms.

00:25:12

And as you go higher, you may meet entities.

00:25:14

And it’s like there’s a lot of tools which have been developing

00:25:17

as this sort of blend between Western psychology

00:25:21

and transpersonal psychology

00:25:22

and shamanic sort of protection and shamanic warriorship,

00:25:27

where you can engage with entities and sort of pulse at them and beam

00:25:30

and say, are you good, are you bad?

00:25:32

You’re going on feeling, you’re going on this gut reaction

00:25:35

as you navigate through the realms.

00:25:37

A lot of the visionary states may or may not be processed stuff coming up.

00:25:41

They may be consensual geographies and

00:25:46

nodal points of connection that exist independent

00:25:49

from us. A lot of the curanderas and a lot of the

00:25:52

visionary art you may have seen, representations of the

00:25:55

ayahuasca experience by artists like Pablo Amaringo,

00:25:58

Andy Debonati or Mauro Rogato, some of the

00:26:01

favourites, anchor this

00:26:04

visionary realm.

00:26:05

And you might see these golden cities or jungle representations.

00:26:09

A lot of them are this sort of blending mishmash of nature

00:26:13

where you’ll see parrots and waters and dolphins.

00:26:17

It’s almost like this kaleidoscope mashup of play of forms.

00:26:22

It’s the web of life.

00:26:23

What they’re showing in these pictures is essentially

00:26:25

the web of life, and then sometimes they go deeper and you’ll see this transcendent, heavenly,

00:26:30

celestial realms coming out of the visions. The interesting thing for me lately on my personal

00:26:36

journey is that it goes deeper, and it goes deeper and deeper and deeper and deeper. And I feel what is happening is that once we have healed our individual bodies

00:26:48

to whatever degree we can,

00:26:50

and we stick to the diet,

00:26:52

and the diet is so crucial

00:26:53

to retaining the sensitivity

00:26:55

for these plant medicines,

00:26:57

and especially ayahuasca,

00:26:59

there’s a lot of confusion around the dieta

00:27:01

and around if you’re going in

00:27:03

as a random sort of seeker for one

00:27:05

ceremony you know you’ve got to be careful of what you’re taking into your body that you’re

00:27:10

not going to have contrary indications from certain foods which may cause complications

00:27:14

the red wine the cheeses you know the fermented foods things like that then there’s a deeper level

00:27:20

if you’re going in regularly as a shamanic seeker or learner or apprentice, where you’ve got to

00:27:25

maintain your energy levels and your

00:27:28

cleansed ability. The shamans

00:27:30

themselves, they do dietas for

00:27:31

months or years at a time

00:27:33

off in the jungle in isolation

00:27:35

so that the

00:27:37

receptivity they have of their

00:27:39

energetic bodies, their bodies are like

00:27:42

an antenna to receive

00:27:43

stellar energy and interspace

00:27:46

energy and to hear the plants. Stephen Bader has this famous book now called Singing to

00:27:51

the Plants. And it’s like this idea that the Icaros they receive and the power they receive

00:27:58

to do shamanic work comes from their ability to maintain dieta and to keep their energy

00:28:03

levels clean and vibrationally pure

00:28:06

so then you can hold more of the energy

00:28:08

coming in. So if you’re

00:28:10

healed on that first level, then you can

00:28:12

go to level two. And this is what

00:28:14

I find interesting because there’s a generation

00:28:16

now, and we’re not shamans,

00:28:18

my little sci-fi shorthand to this is

00:28:20

shamanauts. And that comes from

00:28:22

the Greek to be a traveller. You know,

00:28:24

the astronaut, the cosmonaut, the shamanaut.

00:28:26

You know, we’re going into inner space.

00:28:28

And this, I believe, is a consensual valid realm

00:28:32

that exists where the web of life continues

00:28:34

on interdimensional plateaus.

00:28:37

And we can travel there and we can bring back information

00:28:41

or maps of hyperspace.

00:28:43

So a lot of my current work is involved

00:28:44

with a project called Terra Incognita, back information or maps of hyperspace. So a lot of my current work is involved with

00:28:45

a project called Terra Incognita, which hopefully you’ll hear about in the coming months and

00:28:49

years, which is involved in trying to develop platforms and pathways to bring back this

00:28:55

information about hyperspace and to ground and anchor it in a meaningful way to share

00:29:00

these maps and to have a consensus that, yes, this dimensionality exists.

00:29:07

And it’s not just something the intellect can grasp, it’s something the intuition can grasp,

00:29:12

and it’s something we can hold true and work with in our culture as our culture mutates

00:29:17

and becomes not old world and new world and north and south, east and west,

00:29:22

but becomes a unified planetary culture, which is sustainable and is in right relationship with the earth and with ourselves.

00:29:29

So I see developing around me this generation of shamanauts,

00:29:34

not trained shamans, not yet, to be a proper shaman, 20, 30 years,

00:29:39

to be a banko shaman, 40, 50 years, to really know the song of the plants

00:29:44

and the relationships we can

00:29:46

build with the plant world. Now, of course, at this time as well, it’s getting pretty

00:29:51

urgent out there. There’s this sense of planetary emergency, and in every emergency is the opportunity

00:29:59

for emergence. And I believe the plan is coming to fruition, right? And this is what is meant to be

00:30:07

happening. You know, this is the deadline. This is the kick up the ass to get out of bed and to

00:30:12

start to actually do the work. And we’re all feeling that the water’s boiling and the frog’s

00:30:18

about to jump out of the pot of water because, you know, these are the times and we are the ones

00:30:24

and there is work to be done.

00:30:26

So what is this work? This is the work of the soul.

00:30:29

This is the work of remembrance.

00:30:31

This is a remembrance of who and what we really are, how we connect to the web of life,

00:30:36

how we anchor this energy, and how we then bring in this right relationship of living on the earth

00:30:42

and let the plan come through us. Because

00:30:45

we are part of this. We are the nerve endings of the divine in matter. We are the crest

00:30:51

of the wave, but all the other species and all of history has built this wave that we

00:30:57

are inhabiting the crest of. So it’s a great joy, but it’s also a very great responsibility.

00:31:03

So as more and more Westerners engage with ayahuasca

00:31:06

and many other plant medicines,

00:31:08

we are getting cleansed and we are getting anchored

00:31:11

into the remembrance of the spiritual ecology,

00:31:14

of what this dimension is.

00:31:16

So I feel it’s time to go to the next level,

00:31:19

to train ourselves, to support ourselves,

00:31:22

and to bring back the information and to weave, to reweave

00:31:26

this relationship with the earth and with the spiritual dimensions. And this is the

00:31:31

essence of what religion is. And so of course, you know, religion has got a bad rap because

00:31:36

just look at history. Forget history, it’s over, right? His story is over, this is the

00:31:41

new beginning. But the original Latin for religion is to

00:31:45

re-weave, to reunite, to what? To the planet, to great spirit, to the thing which we are

00:31:53

born from and are going back to and are part of in this great plan. So this generation

00:31:59

of shamanauts is engaging in this remembrance of working with ayahuasca on going deeper themselves

00:32:06

going vertical with their experiences and as on the horizontal axis ayahuasca is spreading all

00:32:12

across the world ayahuasca seems to be the vanguard plant entheogen it has these built-in safeguards

00:32:19

that you purge it can’t really be used recreationally. There is a lineage attached

00:32:26

to it which is what the 60s generation

00:32:28

was missing out on. They wanted

00:32:30

the elders, they wanted the peers

00:32:32

to say you’re on the right path

00:32:34

or to tell

00:32:36

them you’re fucking up, you’re going overboard

00:32:38

with the acid, whatever. We now

00:32:40

have this lineage of curanderas

00:32:42

of shamans, of healers across the world

00:32:44

in many

00:32:45

different cultures, not just in ayahuasca culture.

00:32:48

And remember, these are not gurus.

00:32:50

These are men and women who work with the plant medicines for the benefit, usually,

00:32:56

of their communities for healing.

00:32:58

The Western approach is a bit different.

00:33:02

As I said, I would say, let’s say 10% of people have physical healings.

00:33:06

The sickness that is being healed with Westerners

00:33:08

is this disconnection of spirit,

00:33:10

of this remembrance of what we’re embedded in and connected to

00:33:13

and what we represent.

00:33:15

And so as we come on board,

00:33:17

and as more of us link together into these communities,

00:33:20

ayahuasca and the shamanic modality

00:33:22

is spreading all across the planet.

00:33:24

Here in Byron Bay, all in the west modality is spreading all across the planet.

00:33:27

Here in Byron Bay, all in the west coast of America,

00:33:29

all over the western world,

00:33:32

there are now neo-shamans of the global village.

00:33:34

There’s more and more people.

00:33:37

In the old days, if you took this rough analogy of one shaman in a village of 100 people,

00:33:40

on a 1 to 100 ratio, we had 7 billion people and climbing,

00:33:44

and on that ratio, if my math is good, and it’s sometimes not,

00:33:47

we need something like 70 million healers

00:33:50

or potential shamanic practitioners.

00:33:53

We need, you know, and that’s just so we have a node in every network,

00:33:58

and all those networks overlap in the global village.

00:34:01

We need to have that grounding and anchoring

00:34:04

to make sure everyone’s in sustainability

00:34:07

and in connection with the spirit,

00:34:11

the great spirit which emanates everywhere,

00:34:13

omnidirectionally from the planet,

00:34:15

from the sun, from every core of our being.

00:34:18

We just have to tap into it.

00:34:19

So this generation of Shamanos is going deeper.

00:34:22

And in my recent Ayahuasca experiences

00:34:24

on retreat in Peru,

00:34:27

man, it just goes so freaking deep.

00:34:30

The frog medicine seemed to activate me to these extremely high levels,

00:34:34

almost like an electric fence, right?

00:34:37

That level of intensity, of vibrational intensity.

00:34:40

And as the Ayahuasca came on, boom, it just went past the visionary realm, almost to the white light, to the intelligent, and it is loving, and it is intense. Because as it

00:35:09

tries or as it ingresses into the dimensionality of our individual bodies, we have to be strong,

00:35:17

and we have to be clean, and we have to be the perfect vessel to hold this divine energy.

00:35:26

This is what I feel it was asking of me,

00:35:32

and so this is what I’m sharing with you. What I see the vision for this generation of Shamanauts to be, is to be the best vessels we can be for this divine energy. Because it’s not just us,

00:35:41

and it’s not just the planet which is growing and evolving and becoming the best it can

00:35:45

be. I’m going to use the God word. The God or the divine force or the unified field of being itself,

00:35:54

it is perfecting itself. It is growing and it is growing through relationship with us. And so all

00:36:01

of us are in synergy. We are in hopefully more and more correct relationship with that

00:36:06

and when we do that it’s like a circuit board

00:36:09

and the circuit board doesn’t have any burnt out circuits,

00:36:12

it doesn’t have any broken edges,

00:36:14

it’s all connected up into this perfect symmetrical circuit

00:36:18

which can hold the energy emanating and coming through

00:36:22

and so I have an inkling from my intuition where that could go,

00:36:28

but it’s up to us.

00:36:29

This is the generational challenge of us to just continue what we’re doing

00:36:34

with awareness, with grace, with dignity,

00:36:38

and to help and nurture each other as communities across the globe

00:36:42

and recognize this is a global endeavor. This is not

00:36:46

just here in Australia or in America or in Britain or in Peru or in Africa. This is basically the

00:36:52

reunification of the human species with the planet in right relationship with the divine source

00:37:00

itself. And I don’t think I can say anything else after that.

00:37:05

Thank you.

00:37:07

And that was that.

00:37:16

I will take any questions if anyone has any. Yeah, I was going to say, go for some questions.

00:37:19

So the question was, what is the relationship between

00:37:22

the toad medicine, the Bufo albarius toad and the

00:37:26

5-MeO DMT in the frog

00:37:27

and ayahuasca. Thank you

00:37:29

because that was what I wanted to get to as well.

00:37:32

Ayahuasca usage has been

00:37:33

coming back to the western

00:37:36

modality for 20-30

00:37:37

years and it’s been building and building

00:37:40

and building. It feels to me

00:37:42

like this has been part of the first

00:37:44

steps of the relearning.

00:37:46

And as I was saying before, Ayahuasca has these built-in protections and modalities

00:37:50

where it’s the perfect entheogen to go out into the global village and to rekindle this

00:37:56

awareness.

00:37:57

And as it spreads, people are getting healed and they’re getting illuminated and they’re

00:38:02

opening up.

00:38:03

And Ayahuasca has done such great work and I continue to work

00:38:06

with ayahuasca and I love ayahuasca. And it feels as if perhaps the different entheogens are part

00:38:14

of a larger pattern and a cascade. The human brain has many different varieties of dimethyltryptamine.

00:38:21

There’s the NMDMT, the 5-MEOMeO DMT, there’s pinolene. And if you’re

00:38:27

in one of these tribal darkness rituals for nine days and nights, the brain itself will

00:38:32

start to secrete your endogenous DMT and you’ll go into a visionary state. When it does that

00:38:37

though, it secretes the DMT in different layers. And interestingly enough, so what’s been described

00:38:43

to me is that, say,

00:38:45

all the entheogens that exist are like baubles or decorations on a Christmas tree. Say it’s

00:38:50

the tree of life, right? And all the different entheogens are on the different branches.

00:38:55

And then at the top is the star or the light. And that light is the 5-MeO-DMT. It seems

00:39:03

to be experientially and subjectively

00:39:05

and perhaps even scientifically

00:39:07

the most powerful entheogenic catalyst that we know of.

00:39:11

It’s the pure white light.

00:39:13

It’s the thing which you cannot go any further into

00:39:16

without crossing over.

00:39:18

And the plant-based form of that,

00:39:20

in the cascade, in the darkness ritual,

00:39:23

it’s actually the second one that comes out

00:39:24

and it de-armors the body. As it goes through the body, you start to release

00:39:29

all the tensions and all the stresses and it’s not necessarily just a white light.

00:39:34

So what seems to me is happening, this idea that the five MEOs are the top of the tree,

00:39:39

is that there’s initiations and there’s protocols and there’s commissions on a spiritual level

00:39:46

that we’re meant to go through first before we go to these larger levels.

00:39:51

And it’s not to say that perhaps psilocybin mushrooms are better or worse or less than ayahuasca,

00:39:58

but all of these things are serving similar purposes in sifting and gradiating,

00:40:04

and it’s almost like the washing machine. You on the permanent press or something and they’re getting

00:40:08

rid of all the gunk and cleansing and then when you’re clean you’re ready for

00:40:12

the next levels and so some of these deeper levels lead up to the DMT like

00:40:17

that if you have an end EMT this book would be smoked EMT you can go into very

00:40:23

very deep visionary experiences,

00:40:26

which sometimes you get to on ayahuasca, but not all the time.

00:40:29

Ayahuasca is predominantly more healing.

00:40:31

Westerners are drawn to this idea of visions.

00:40:34

They’re drawn to this tangibility and this authenticity that if you’re seeing it,

00:40:39

it must be real, even if it’s confusing and it’s this weird vision that something’s happening.

00:40:43

So the DMT can take us to many of these realms within the terra incognita, and you can go

00:40:51

to there, but then the 5-MeO DMT is said scientifically to be about 10 times more powerful and potent

00:40:58

than NM DMT.

00:41:00

So if you use an analogy like the Tibetans with the Bardo states in the Tibetan book of the dead

00:41:06

it’s almost like there’s another analogy

00:41:09

the Sufis say there’s 50,000 layers

00:41:11

of illusion between you and God

00:41:12

but none between God and you

00:41:14

and so these 50,000 layers

00:41:16

are like curtains

00:41:18

or they’re permissions

00:41:20

and protocols, they’re layers which are there

00:41:22

for our protection

00:41:24

because as you get closer and closer and closer

00:41:27

to the raw, naked face of God,

00:41:29

it burns, man.

00:41:31

It’s too dense.

00:41:32

It’s too much.

00:41:34

So the 5-MeO-DMT,

00:41:37

and especially from the frog,

00:41:38

and I think it’s very important,

00:41:39

there’s a distinction and a difference

00:41:40

between the synthesized 5-MeO-DMT,

00:41:43

which can take you to the white light tunnel,

00:41:45

the classic mystical experience

00:41:47

where the vibrational field opens you up

00:41:49

and the drop rejoins the ocean

00:41:51

and you remember that you are it

00:41:53

and it is all there is and it’s the source.

00:41:56

The frog medicine has extra alkaloids or trace elements

00:42:00

and this connection to the frog.

00:42:02

People have said to me,

00:42:03

perhaps with the natural entheogens with the plants and the toad sorry that perhaps that spirit

00:42:10

is also accompanying and so we adding an extra layer to the journey there’s

00:42:14

something slightly more maybe not comforting but there’s an extra energy

00:42:18

there so the 5m EO is pure white. In my experience recently with Dr. Reddick,

00:42:26

it was pineal gland pop,

00:42:30

unconditional love was washing down my insides,

00:42:34

became a waterfall until I was drinking it in underwater,

00:42:37

and drowning in pure vibrational density,

00:42:40

heart of the star, the raw naked face of God inside me, and that feeling was

00:42:47

pure unconditional love, like when you get from a baby or a small child.

00:42:51

And we mainly know this feeling of love from connection with another, or maybe if we’re

00:42:58

lucky, from ourselves, but this unconditional love is a vibrational frequency which permeates everywhere, everywhere and everything.

00:43:07

It is the source, the density of the source.

00:43:11

So when I went into the ayahuasca space

00:43:12

after being activated by the five a week earlier,

00:43:15

I went back to this space or very close to it

00:43:17

and the density of vibration was too freaking much.

00:43:22

And so what I think is happening

00:43:24

on a larger cultural and evolutionary level

00:43:27

is that the entheogens and ayahuasca

00:43:30

have been preparing us to hold and receive the light.

00:43:35

And the light at the top of the tree of life

00:43:37

is the destination and it is the culmination of Gaia’s plan

00:43:42

to bring in heaven on earth.

00:43:45

And we are the bridges between heaven on earth.

00:43:49

We are the receptacles that hold space between the worlds.

00:43:53

And so, you know, if we could look at the shamanic movement

00:43:56

in the West and globally now as this…

00:44:00

It’s like baking a cake, you know, there’s these layers.

00:44:03

And so all the entheogens are baking the cake

00:44:06

and making it all ripe and juicy.

00:44:08

And the 5-MeO is the icing on the cake.

00:44:11

And collectively then, it’s the icing and the candles, boom,

00:44:14

and the flame and going on.

00:44:17

And Philip K. Dick has this term,

00:44:19

he wrote a book called The Divine Invasion.

00:44:22

And he was really switched on

00:44:23

because the source is coming through multiple

00:44:26

modalities, not just entheogens and not

00:44:28

just us. It’s coming through the unified

00:44:30

field and physics and it’s coming through

00:44:31

the sun and it’s coming through astrophysics

00:44:33

and the entheogens and, you know,

00:44:36

your own practices because

00:44:37

everything that exists is

00:44:39

an anchor point for

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the divine energy to come through.

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And we’re now in a different cycle in our orbit

00:44:47

of the Earth around the Sun and the Sun around the solar system

00:44:51

and the solar system around the galaxy. We’re now in a different

00:44:55

phase. We’re in a new world age. The whole Mayan idea of

00:44:59

not just 2012 but the fact that the world ages have shifted. We’re

00:45:03

receiving what I call 5 bar galactic godhead signal.

00:45:07

And all of history has been like one-bar signal.

00:45:09

And then we’ve gone back to ego and we’ve forgotten.

00:45:11

But as more signal comes in, more of this energy comes in,

00:45:15

more and more people are waking up all over the world spontaneously without anything

00:45:20

because we’re being fed.

00:45:21

The signal is rising.

00:45:22

And so if we are being sculpted

00:45:25

by divine energies, and the plants have been helping us remember, what it is to remember

00:45:30

is where we’re headed, and it’s the light, the intelligent, sentient, and oh my fucking

00:45:37

God, such loving light. It is pure love. And it sounds like a word, I can say the word

00:45:44

love, but imagine diving into an ocean of love and And it sounds like a word, I can say the word love, but imagine

00:45:45

diving into an ocean of love and feeling it all around, not just on the outside, but on

00:45:50

the inside. And to know at the core of your being, not that just you are loved, you are

00:45:57

loved. Right? And to know it radiating inside out, and then this is the lesson of the light that the toad has shown me.

00:46:07

And I feel it’s very intense.

00:46:12

It’s very, very intense.

00:46:13

So don’t just rush out and want to do toad medicine.

00:46:17

It is a permission and a protocol and a gift for when you are ready to hold it

00:46:24

because it can fry the circuit.

00:46:26

And as more and more people are ready,

00:46:28

it will manifest in your life

00:46:30

and more and more people will hold that light

00:46:32

and more and more people will share that light

00:46:34

and then this divine invasion,

00:46:37

it’s not an invasion, it’s a remembrance,

00:46:39

will manifest.

00:46:41

And as certain people have related to me

00:46:43

who have been initiated by Australian

00:46:45

indigenous mobs, the aboriginals say the dream time is returning. We are coming full circle

00:46:51

back to this phase in the cycle. And what would that mean? Well, the ayahuasca and the

00:46:57

plant medicines and the antigens are giving us an inkling. They’re giving us a little

00:47:02

taster. It’s coming on and we’re going back to where we are now.

00:47:05

So imagine these are the training wheels

00:47:08

to get ready for the real thing,

00:47:10

for the permanent anchoring point

00:47:13

of the divine energy on earth

00:47:15

where you are connected with like angel mind,

00:47:18

this bandwidth of frequency

00:47:19

that is I’m here, I’m talking, I’m walking, I’m drinking

00:47:22

and I can feel that frequency.

00:47:25

I am connected to pure love and to the divine God,

00:47:28

and it is both at once.

00:47:30

And I can shift and feel that full love

00:47:32

and be in interconnection, the holographic weave.

00:47:36

You know, I can feel the connection to all things at all times

00:47:39

in that unity consciousness,

00:47:42

as the unity, the field of unified being

00:47:44

is expressed in us and connects to everything.

00:47:47

That’s what I think the Toad and the 5MEO

00:47:49

and the Great Spirit and the Plan is doing

00:47:51

as it ices the cake of us.

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And I’m going to leave it there.

00:47:56

Thank you.

00:47:57

I’m wrapping it up.

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On that note, though,

00:48:02

if you want to come to experience

00:48:04

one of my Ayahuasca Awakenings retreats, it’s ayah-awakenings.com forward slash retreats and to facilitate and help in everyone’s awakening

00:48:25

because the teachers and the students learn from each other,

00:48:29

and I love this work, so please join me. Thank you.

00:48:34

You’re listening to The Psychedelic Salon,

00:48:36

where people are changing their lives one thought at a time.

00:48:41

Now, my guess is that not all that many of our fellow salonners can deeply, deeply relate to what Rack was trying to say just now

00:48:50

about the fact that the core of our beings consists of pure, unconditional love.

00:48:56

While that statement has been made many times by many people,

00:49:00

my hunch is that not all that many of us have actually felt experientially felt what that means

00:49:07

hopefully you’re one of them

00:49:09

I don’t know how many psychedelic voyages that I’ve taken in my life

00:49:13

using a wide variety of substances

00:49:15

but there have been a lot of them

00:49:18

and one of them, only a single one

00:49:21

brought me to an experience of being an entity

00:49:24

consisting only of love.

00:49:26

But trust me, unless you have ever been there yourself, those are only words.

00:49:32

I’ve never spoken about this before because I realize how ineffable such an experience is,

00:49:38

and so I applaud Rock for at least pushing the envelope a little bit farther so as to let people know that,

00:49:44

well, there is something out there that, if you haven’t touched it yet yourself,

00:49:48

nonetheless, you can rest assured that it’s there.

00:49:51

Just keep searching. Safely and carefully searching, please.

00:49:56

And as for Rack’s proposition that nature may be communicating with us humans

00:50:01

through specific chemicals in her plants,

00:50:04

well, I doubt that if there’s a single person who has had a major psychedelic experience

00:50:10

without coming back ecologically more aware, or green as some would say,

00:50:15

it’s universal and that should be of some importance in our continuing discussions

00:50:20

about legalizing the use of these plants.

00:50:23

Isn’t it interesting that we humans have declared some plants

00:50:26

that freely grow on this planet to be illegal?

00:50:30

Now, if that isn’t presumptuous, I don’t know what is.

00:50:33

Now, if you’re interested in learning more about plant medicines,

00:50:37

one of the places that can be found is at a crowdsourced social enterprise

00:50:41

in Eugene, Oregon that I’ve just learned of.

00:50:43

This is a really interesting concept, and I’ll put a link to them in today’s program notes, Thank you. What services do we provide? A comprehensive lending library, an information center and community hub, harm reduction services,

00:51:10

healthy and rational-based drug education for all populations, workshops, classes, and a referral service for addiction treatment.

00:51:19

Their website goes on,

00:51:21

Our project had its roots in the attempt of Eugene community members to donate their books.

00:51:27

Current libraries in operation in the area were willing to accept our books,

00:51:31

but declined to keep the collection intact.

00:51:34

In other words, they would take our books and scatter the collection far and wide

00:51:38

between different institutions.

00:51:40

We envision not only keeping the book collection intact,

00:51:44

but expertly curating the collection in addition to tripling or quadrupling the library collection and registering as a state library association and non-profit organization.

00:51:55

That’s the end of what they say on their website. Actually, they say a lot more, but you can get the link to it in our program notes. But I’m also very pleased to let you know that the founder and director of this center is James Joseph,

00:52:09

who’s been a fellow salonner for our full 10 years now.

00:52:13

Now, another of our fellow salonners is Alan Lamberg, a screenwriter with a real gift, in my opinion.

00:52:21

And like James Joseph, Alan has also decided to stand up and be counted.

00:52:26

Recently, his latest movie was released, and it’s titled Casualties of the State.

00:52:31

And you can find it online at all one word, casualtiesofthestate.com.

00:52:37

And since my fantasy action adventure video viewing runs along the lines of programs like Covert Affairs and Strike

00:52:46

Back, well, Alan’s writing really resonated with me. He tells me that he wrote this movie because

00:52:52

he wanted to subtly get people thinking about the problem of war profiteering. And if you don’t think

00:52:58

that’s a problem, then, well, you haven’t been paying attention for the past 50 years or so.

00:53:03

It’s really a well-written film and has enough twists and turns

00:53:07

that, well, it kept me guessing until the very end as to how it was going to turn out.

00:53:11

So check it out if you get a chance.

00:53:13

And if you move around in the Hollywood crowd,

00:53:16

you may want to check it out as a possible pilot for a series.

00:53:20

I can tell you that I, for one, am really interested to find out

00:53:23

where the main character goes from here.

00:53:25

And again, you’ll find links to Alan’s work in today’s program notes.

00:53:31

Finally, there is one more movie that I want to tell you about.

00:53:34

A week ago, I heard about this film and decided to give it a plug,

00:53:38

but then I had an opportunity to watch it,

00:53:40

and I’m here to tell you that this is most definitely a movie that you want to see.

00:53:45

Well, it deserves much more than a simple plug.

00:53:48

It’s by filmmaker Gay Dillingham, and is titled Dying to Know, Ram Dass and Timothy Leary.

00:53:56

And you’ll find several links about it in today’s program notes, including a link to its trailer.

00:54:01

But trust me, the trailer is barely the tip of the iceberg, so to speak.

00:54:06

You see, while there is a significant amount of historical material in the film, ultimately

00:54:11

what it is about is something that each and every one of us has in common. We’re all going

00:54:16

to die one day. Like it or not, that is a fact, and as the movie points out, it is also

00:54:22

a topic that is more or less taboo in polite company.

00:54:27

Now, what our older salonners will remember, at least if they were online back in 1996,

00:54:33

is that Timothy Leary, for a while, was saying that he wanted to stream his death experience live over the Internet.

00:54:40

I can remember sitting in my home in Florida at the time, following all of the announcements on Leary’s website,

00:54:46

but also making a firm decision that there was no way I was going to watch anyone die over the net.

00:54:52

Ultimately, as it turned out, Timothy decided to keep his death on a more intimate level, and it wasn’t webcast.

00:54:59

Nonetheless, the months of posts and comments leading up to his death were a watershed for many of us in that,

00:55:06

well, it actually did cause us to give more attention to the fact that our deaths should

00:55:11

be a time of excitement and happiness rather than a time of fear and dread. Yet, while the film

00:55:17

makes an important statement about the true nature of the death experience, the bulk of the film is

00:55:22

actually about Leary and Alpert, or Ram Dass, and the

00:55:25

history that they created together.

00:55:28

While you may have seen a few of the news clips before, like the ones where Leary testified

00:55:32

to a Senate committee and was questioned by a very young Senator Teddy Kennedy, there’s

00:55:38

a lot of historical footage there that I hadn’t seen before.

00:55:41

For example, there’s one scene, this isn’t really historical,

00:55:45

I guess, but it’s a scene with Leary and Alpert, who, as you know, is now known as Ram Dass,

00:55:50

are looking through a box from Leary’s extensive archive. And, well, that scene really struck home

00:55:56

with me because I’ve actually looked through many of those boxes myself. And thanks to the amazing

00:56:01

efforts of Dennis Berry, who almost single-handedly preserved Dr. Leary’s

00:56:05

archive over many, many years until the New York City Library took the collection over.

00:56:10

But seeing Leary and Ram Dass happily sorting through the detritus of Timothy’s life should,

00:56:15

well, it should be a thrill for anyone who has or will have visited the Leary archive in the

00:56:20

library today. This is a really well-produced and high-quality film,

00:56:25

and it’s narrated by Robert Redford,

00:56:27

and features a significant number of famous people,

00:56:30

both in old clips and in recent interviews.

00:56:33

And for me, there were several loose ends that were taken care of.

00:56:37

One of them involves some of the specific details

00:56:40

about why Richard Alpert, Ram Dass, was fired from Harvard.

00:56:46

And in case you didn’t know, Timothy Ram Dass, was fired from Harvard. And in case you didn’t know,

00:56:52

Timothy Leary was never fired from Harvard. He resigned after Ram Dass was fired. Now,

00:56:57

I’ve known the background story about the firing for quite a while now, but like most people who have heard the story, I’ve never spoken about it because I had only heard it from third parties.

00:57:03

Well, this movie tells the complete story, and

00:57:05

it’s told directly by the people involved. For that reason alone, this is a very historic movie.

00:57:11

But don’t let me lead you to believe that this is just another documentary about the 60s.

00:57:17

To me, well, it’s not a documentary at all, but rather a film about how a man came to the end of

00:57:23

what can only be called one of the most extraordinary lives in modern American history,

00:57:28

and at the end, how he came to accept and even embrace his final days and the end of his life.

00:57:33

I’m going to post the four theaters in California where this film will preview on July 10th.

00:57:39

My advice to you is that if you are anywhere near one of those theaters, then please don’t miss the chance to see this movie on the big screen.

00:57:48

Just like the great movie about Sasha Shulgin called Dirty Pictures.

00:57:52

Well, it may not get a wide release.

00:57:54

Hopefully it will, but as someone who has missed out on seeing several interesting movies on the big screen,

00:58:00

the way they are created to be seen,

00:58:02

I’m here to tell you that you’ll probably regret it if you miss the July 10th limited release.

00:58:07

So, if you are young and barely know about Ram Dass and Leary back in the 60s,

00:58:12

well then this is a truly important film in that it will give you a significantly deeper understanding

00:58:18

of what all has taken place to get us where we are today.

00:58:21

Just think of it, in half of the states in this country almost, medical marijuana is now available. Thank you. Now, there’s still another reason for some of our fellow slaughters to see this film, and that has to do with its focus on the process of dying.

00:58:48

In a few weeks, I’m going to be 73 years old.

00:58:51

That’s actually just three years short of Timothy Leary’s age when he died.

00:58:56

And if I told you that death was never on my mind, I’d be lying to you.

00:58:59

And my guess is that the same is true for most people my age.

00:59:03

And if they’re anything like me, they’ll come away from this movie with a much more peaceful attitude about dying.

00:59:09

So I’m recommending that if you are young, you should see this film for the knowledge you’ll gain about the history of your tribe.

00:59:16

But if you’re old, you’ll get much more than a history lesson.

00:59:19

And maybe you can take your grandparents to see it, or if you’re a grandparent, maybe you should take your children and grandchildren to see it.

00:59:27

Well, I guess that I’m just running on now and overselling it,

00:59:31

but rest assured I have no financial interest in this movie.

00:59:34

My only motivation here is to do whatever I can to encourage you to watch a truly inspiring film,

00:59:41

and I’m sure that you won’t be disappointed.

00:59:43

So for now, this is Lorenzo, signing

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off from Cyberdelic Space.

00:59:48

Be careful out there, my friends.