Program Notes

Guest speaker: Dr. Timothy Leary

[NOTE: All quotations below are by Dr. Timothy Leary.]

“Many people are afraid to be free. They’re afraid that if liberty were to seep through the land then they would loose something. The just don’t trust themselves enough to be free.”

“Prison is a luxury. Unfortunately it is wasted on people who don’t know how to use it.”

“The objective is to get as far away from The Man as you can.”

“There’s only one technology of freedom. It’s the human brain.”

“You’ve got to be smart to be free, and most people don’t want to take the responsibility to be free.”

“You are as old as the last time you changed your mind.” (Anon quoted by Leary?)

“Liberty is inexorably intertwined with intelligence.”

“Every time you hear that word ’security’ watch out, because somebody’s going to take some of your freedom away.”

“One way to become more intelligent is to migrate to where people are as intelligent or more intelligent than you.”

“I’m basically pro-drugs. Drugs give you more options. Now I’m not pro any one drug. I’m pro-freedom-of-drugs.”

“We can only go as far outward as we have gone inward.”

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Greetings from Cyberdelic Space.

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This is Lorenzo, and I’m your host here in the Psychedelic Salon.

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This is Lorenzo, and I’m your host here in the Psychedelic Salon.

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And I’d like to begin today by thanking Toby O. for sending in a donation to help with the expenses here in the salon.

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So, thank you very much, Toby.

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I realize that we are entering some difficult financial times ahead, and so your donation means a lot to me.

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Appreciate it.

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Now, the talk we’re about to hear right now is from a cassette tape in the Timothy Leary archive that said it was recorded at the Future of Freedom conference in 1981,

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which means that it took place about five years after Dr. Leary was released from prison.

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And while I again have to apologize for the

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quality of the recording, we should keep in mind that back in 1981, the portable tech we had to

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record these things was sadly lacking when compared with the state of the art today.

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But fortunately for us, Dr. Leary turned on his tape recorder when this talk began.

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for us, Dr. Leary turned on his tape recorder when this talk began, and so you and I can now time travel back to that noisy little room in Southern California back in 1981.

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You’re going to have to work a bit to pull out everything Dr. Leary says, because there

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apparently was no sound system in the room, so you’ll be hearing this talk the same way

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the people in the room heard it that day.

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room, so you’ll be hearing this talk the same way the people in the room heard it that day.

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But I think it’s worthwhile to suffer through a little static noise in order to hear what one of our elders was saying 25 years ago that influenced so many young people and probably

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played a role of some kind in getting us all to where we are today.

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So I hope you find this talk as interesting as I have.

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Now, Dr. Timothy Leary speaking about freedom.

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I love you to the light. I love you to the light. I love you to the light.

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Oh, baby, can you move?

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Dr. Timothy Leary.

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Thank you. Well, I now meet you, be liberated, and I’m happy to be here with you today.

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It’s a great honor to be at this meeting.

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I’d like to pay tribute to the wonderful women and men who organized these conferences. I understand this was bigger and better than any before. So may our tribe

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increase from year to year.

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I’d like to pay tribute to three of our heroes, Carl Henson, of course, and I’m glad to have him around,

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and Daniel Bramlin, Representative of the Shillings, and many others.

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I’d particularly like to pay tribute to someone who’s not here today, Irwin Shipp.

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Irwin Shib.

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The noise of our applause and reaching in from the

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liquor institution where he’s

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doing radio interviews.

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I think it’s deliciously

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appropriate that one of our speakers couldn’t be here today because she or he is in prison.

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You’re a crank until they pop you in jail.

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When you’ve done something to touch the tender nerve endings of those that are not too enthusiastic about freedom,

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you know that you’re succeeding somehow.

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I personally have always felt that if I wasn’t in trouble, I must be in trouble.

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We are a special breed in this room.

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We’re not too far into the sociobiology of genetics

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of the situation.

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I think we are a special cast.

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I think we are a special function of human beings.

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I think we are wired, fired, sired,

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inspired by the day they go to play.

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I believe we have a valuable role

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in the overall evolution of our species. by the day they go to play a particularly valuable role

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in the overall evolution of our species.

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It’s obvious that we’re not a great majority.

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I think that libertarians and freedom lovers

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and troublemakers, frontier people,

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are necessary for any gene pool

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or any species of any culture.

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It’s also necessary, of course, to have people that don’t want too much freedom,

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that want control.

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I looked up in the dictionary just last night the definition of the word liberty and freedom,

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and it’s always fun to realize

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how clear it comes out in the etymology.

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Liberty is negatively defined as the absence

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of constraint or control by someone else.

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The second definition is liberty is the ability

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to make choices or options.

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We vary various human beings

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and our desire to avoid constraint

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and we’re often simply don’t want to have too many choices.

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Now, I think it’s our function to reassure,

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to demonstrate, to illustrate, to shock, to electrify

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and do everything we can to tell the rest of our species

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that they can be free, and it’s purely free,

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and it’s fun to be free, and it’s intelligent to be free.

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I personally, I have to be free

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it seems ironic for me to say that

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because I spent five years in military service

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I spent four years in prisons

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I’ve been on parole

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six years, I’m still on parole

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I spent 20 years as a student

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at the mind-captivating institutions

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of our primary schools, universities.

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So I’ve certainly paid my dues.

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And I’m sure you have.

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But many people are afraid to be free.

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They’re afraid that

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if liberty were to sweep through the land

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they would lose something

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there are many people who just don’t trust

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themselves enough to be free

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I consider

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myself eminently trustworthy

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as far as freedom is concerned

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I have no desire

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to go around raping and looting

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because that’s simply a dumb thing to do.

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I think the person who chooses the freedom option has to have that sense of trust and confidence in them.

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I just don’t want to hurt anyone else because I know that they’re going to come back raping me.

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I above all do not want to control or imprison or restrain them.

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Because after 20 years in the schools

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and four years in prisons and five years in the army,

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I well know that the controllers are really in trouble.

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That’s it.

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And they can never take their eye off the victim.

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As I was using the big D in prison,

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I learned a great deal of prison. Prison is a luxury. I didn’t a great deal of prison.

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Prison is a luxury.

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I don’t know.

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It’s a, unfortunately it’s wasted.

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People have gone out of using it.

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I remember so often sitting around in the prison yard,

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we had a total luxury of time.

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I didn’t have to pay any rent,

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I didn’t have to make phone calls,

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I didn’t have to worry about erections,

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I didn’t have to worry about bills.

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I did enjoy the sunshine,

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maybe do a lot of medics, read, write.

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And I looked up and there,

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she takes in the guns, all the watchers.

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Could be the poor guys

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who are in control over them.

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I think that we who belong to the libertarian cast,

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as I said before, are playing an important function.

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I think at different times in history

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were more important than us.

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They were not times in history were more important than us. They rocked the mountain in history,

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were critically, critically,

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crucially important to our species.

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And I do believe that although we are on the frontier,

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the eccentric, far out,

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fringe of human aspirations for liberty,

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there’s a lot of closet libertarians out there.

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And it’s our function.

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Everyone, almost everyone, wants to be a little freer than we are.

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So that although our numbers at the moment may not appear to be that great,

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we’ve got a groundswell, an enormous energy bank waiting for us.

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The aspiration is that we be freer.

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Now, I’d like to say a few words about,

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I talked about the sociology of who we are

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and what our function is.

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I’d like to talk about the neurogeography of freedom.

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Many of you have heard me say this before,

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but I think when I look at history,

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I look at sociology, just trip around the globe right now,

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convince you that for the last four or five

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thousand years, human intelligence, human freedom, the libertarian impulse has been

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moving in an unbroken line from east to west. So we assemble here in this room at the most

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far out, far western. Congratulations, we made the long trip. If it is wonderful, congratulations

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we made the long trip

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it is wonderful

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to think that every one of us

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in this room owes our presence

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in this great country

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free country America

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and in this room today

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to the foremothers

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and forefathers who had the sense

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in the past to realize that the intelligent thing to do was to migrate rather than stay back and fight.

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Another thing that I was impressed with, this is one of the space people, you don’t understand what my interest in the space movement is.

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I spent three and a half years in prison yards watching the birds come and go.

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And at that point I realized that mobility and altitude were donations of intelligence and freedom.

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and intelligence of freedom.

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Now, it’s simply true that the farther you go today, the going back in time,

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going down in intelligence, then there’s less and less freedom.

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It’s a perfect linear correlation.

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The farther you go, the more reliance

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there is upon paternalism, upon statism,

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the less regard there is for

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individuality. The concept of individuality, if it exists at all, in most of the East,

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in the Middle East, is something that we’ve rooted out and stamped out and imprisoned

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in every way. It’s been a great trip, though, coming east to west, you remember great moments in human history.

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You remember back in Athens, people were meeting

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just as we are meeting today, to speculate, to debate,

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to philosophize, to find tactics and strategy

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for how to improve human freedoms.

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Great Socratic Athenian, there’s no accident, you see,

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why it works out that places like Athens or Long Beach

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become the centers of freedom at that particular time.

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The Athenians were, of course, the western frontier of civilization as it ended back then.

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And instead of Washington, D.C., East was England.

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They had Persians and they had Lillians

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and so forth.

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For those of us

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in the freedom game,

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the navigation course

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must be clear.

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We have always found

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the tax collector

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east of us, haven’t we?

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We have always found the secret police east of us and so forth. So the Athenians were there, and they had no danger to the technology of freedom.

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The Athenians had all these goings.

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They were on the frontier, as far away as they could get at that time from the Boston

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back in the Middle East.

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And because of the geography, the princes of Greece, they tended to be navigators.

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Now, people that voyage and migrate, they have to trust themselves.

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They have to have a free intelligence.

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They can’t rely on the book or the manual and so forth or the Bible or whatever you call it.

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When you get out there in your ships, you’ve got to study the stars, you’ve got to become

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smarter, you’ve got to get as much information as you can, you’ve got to listen to other

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people.

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When you’re out there lost, you’re very happy to have your mind changed.

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So I’m going to tell you how we’ve done it before.

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So these are some of the many things that the Greeks had going for them in the way of neurotechnology.

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They simply were voyagers, frontier people.

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It moved from Greece, of course, to the Enlightenment in Italy, then France and England,

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and then the great movement upward to the eastern Pacific United States

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and then across the plains, the obvious trajectory has been to the trick of human intelligence

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about that, to get as far away from the man as you can.

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freedom is something that really exists almost exclusively

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openly, literally

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publicly on the western frontier

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and when we think

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about the tactics of

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libertarianism

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I’m convinced that we’re never going to change

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Tehran

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they’re not having I’m convinced that we’re never gonna change Tehran.

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They’re not having meetings in Tehran right now.

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Unfortunately not in Belfast either.

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I think that 5,000 years from now, when we life-extended space-migrating libertarians

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come back to planet Earth on vacations

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and see what’s going on in the old world.

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We’ll still find them in Tehran, riding over to the local shower and so forth.

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But the smart Iranians, the free Iranians will be with us.

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I’m convinced now that I’m Irish.

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The free Iranians will be with us.

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I’m convinced now that I’m Irish.

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I’m convinced that the smartest Irish and the most loving Irish have long since left Ireland.

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And the free and loving and delicate Iranians that have left Iran are buying up most of Beverly

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Hills.

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That comforts me because it means that we’re all together

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and we at the Western Frontier are the forward flow

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of our species and certainly the return

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is going to be open to all input.

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Well, we’re talking about the future freedom of technology.

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There’s only one technology of freedom.

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Comes in forms and packages and random labels and so forth.

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There’s only one technology and it’s the human brain, right?

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Human intelligence is the key.

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You have to be intelligent to be free.

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Certainly Jefferson taught us that,

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or one of the other people taught us that.

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The wonderful thing about freedom is that,

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you never have it for a second.

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And you continue to have it,

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changing your mind, moving, looking around.

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It’s the glory of freedom.

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We in the freedom business are now

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coming into our own

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there’s no question of it

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libertarians are

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I think we’re more intelligent

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maybe I’m showing this to you

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but I said before

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you simply have to be smart

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to be free

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and most people don’t want to take responsibility for it.

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I’m like, God, you know, it is difficult to have to maintain a libertarian position.

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I can understand why people are giving up and surrendering and turning over other problems to the man or to someone.

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to the man or to someone.

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You know, we listen to great theologians like Terry Bradshaw or Bob Dylan.

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They tell us we have to serve someone

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or they pray in the hospital

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or Jesus is going to save us a bit.

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I think that there is,

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we all have that button in our nervous system. say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, Why bother? It is difficult to be a libertarian and get up every morning and figure it all out.

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Once you get on with the game,

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no one’s going to the solid ground to explain it to us.

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We’ve got to use better gravity and levity every day.

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We’ve got to keep changing our mind.

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It is exhausting, but it’s also stimulating

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and it’s also rejuvenating

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because you are as old

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as the last time you changed your mind.

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It’s a great time for we libertarians.

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Throughout human history, we libertarians

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have always been a minority.

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We’ve been necessary, though, because we think for ourselves.

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We’re the ones that always bail species out.

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When we’re hunter-gatherers, people were praying,

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they were sacrificing animals, they were sacrificing human beings,

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worshipping Bongo, the Lord God, and so forth.

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But the libertarians, the smart ones, the independent thinkers,

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who figured out how to check the flanks to make better knives and so forth,

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when it became agricultural time, again, they were telling us we have to submit and be controlled by the priests and the different

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,, the libertarians, the independent thinkers who

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figured out the irrigation ditches and which seeds

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and which fruits and so forth.

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They always call us out of the closet when they need us.

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And because they know, they, course need to be ones who are assigned genetically

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to perform the very value as their function,

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holding them together.

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And this very change, the state change,

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which you have to be challenged,

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you have to prove that you deserve it,

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and naturally, but the times of crisis,

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they always had to call on us.

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And they never liked us because we are undependable.

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We’re simply not loyal because we change our mind.

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We’re loyal to one thing, and that’s the freedom of truth, the freedom of ideas.

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So throughout human history, the libertarian class, the frontier people,

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we’ve always been kind of behind the curtains.

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And it’s usually been dangerous not to go around talking too much freedom.

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It still is dangerous today, I’ll tell you. It’s always been dangerous, and it’s dangerous in most places in the world today.

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Parts of the United States today, to actually talk libertarianism.

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But in the last 20 years in this country, there’s been a tremendous process of liberation. And I think that the children’s thoughts on that and the concepts of discovering itself,

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the technology of freedom is, of course, the discovery and the actualization of years before the era.

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When they talk about self-reliance, self-disclosure,

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self-acquisition, self-assertion,

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I do think we should include self-indulgence.

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I love the word out of indulgence.

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Try it on your neighborhood controller.

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But,

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question,

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who’s going to indulge who?

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We individuals are not supposed to indulge ourselves.

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We’re supposed to indulge the state,

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which is a course of

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mercenary outreaching.

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I think that you have to learn to indulge yourself,

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love yourself, appeal to yourself,

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find yourself attractive, laugh at yourself,

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before you can do much with the rest of our species.

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Anyway, in the last 20 years,

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there’s been a tremendous liberation with sexual liberation,

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liberation of many different races

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and occupations and so forth.

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And the greatest liberation,

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that excites me most is that in the last 20 years,

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our cast has come out of the closet.

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The smart ones, the advanced people,

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the frontier scouts, the explorers, the freedom lovers.

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And I think we’re coming out of the closet much,

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much more simply, more intelligent people and more freedom-loving people

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today than ever before in history,

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particularly in the United States,

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because it’s the last one in our country,

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particularly the far east you go,

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but it doesn’t go around that.

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But still, our country is the pinnacle of freedom.

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It’s the only country I know of that originated the notion

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of life, freedom, it’s an old-time joke, originated the notion of life, liberty,

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and pursuit of happiness.

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It’s very interesting, Pierre Trudeau,

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when he was in Canada, when he was trying

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to get a constitution, he’d done a very funny thing.

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He wants the motto, or the goal of the Canadian Commonwealth

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to be life, liberty, and security.

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Life, liberty, and security.

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The Canadian Edenists will be heading south soon.

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There are more freedom-loving people and intelligent, freedom engineers running around today,

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freedom technologists running around today.

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Of course, there are more of everything.

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There are more looters and breakers,

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more heavy lift hunter gatherers around.

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There’s simply more of everything.

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But there are tremendous signs of optimism

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for those free and not intelligent,

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much of the optimistic.

00:24:42

The reason Omni magazine has become in just two years,

00:24:46

a,

00:24:49

the most,

00:24:49

the fastest growing magazine in the country

00:24:52

dedicated to the application of human intelligence

00:24:55

and scientific beauty.

00:24:59

It’s a wonderful combination of erotic science.

00:25:05

For the last few years, I’ve seen one of my roles is to try to eroticize the scientist

00:25:09

and scientize the eroticist.

00:25:13

It’s interesting that we often don’t pay tribute to us,

00:25:19

and I don’t think we should, to the people who are really in charge of the libertarian movement,

00:25:23

who are the women.

00:25:24

It’s interesting that…

00:25:28

I didn’t know what I was going to do.

00:25:31

The Omni magazine was originated by a woman, Kathy Keaton,

00:25:36

and she’s made it a study, a glorious testament for the the side of the American,

00:25:47

the various

00:25:50

the returning

00:25:52

It’s a wonderful time for us and we’ve never been so badly needed.

00:25:57

And I predict that the next meeting of this group will be twice as large and twice as significant.

00:26:12

I think that in talking about libertarianism,

00:26:16

we should stress the fact that liberty

00:26:19

is extremely intertwined with intelligence

00:26:23

and that we are referring to intelligence age.

00:26:30

And again, it’s fascinating that in the last two decades,

00:26:34

every single branch of science has experienced

00:26:40

an incredible breakthrough, which involved more freedom.

00:26:44

Now next Wednesday, UCLA, you know,

00:26:47

the psychiatric institute, not great.

00:26:49

Yeah.

00:26:51

Four o’clock, Ilya Prigogine, they speak.

00:26:55

Now, he’s a very interesting person.

00:26:56

He’s known about plasma chemistry,

00:26:58

but he’s done a very liberating thing.

00:27:01

He has repealed the second law of thermodynamics.

00:27:04

Isn’t that great?

00:27:08

If there was ever a strange

00:27:11

controlling, imprisoning concept in physics

00:27:16

it was the second law of century. Well, I bought it.

00:27:20

It’s all

00:27:20

meaningless. all end up some meaningless zero wealth.

00:27:27

You’d probably know is through a discipline structure

00:27:32

shows that energy at higher levels can reassociate.

00:27:37

And that’s what evolution is all about.

00:27:40

And the very word dissipated structure

00:27:43

that is not the name of the Newport Rock Band.

00:27:47

It’s a Nobel Prize winner, you know what I’m saying?

00:27:50

We’re not controlling the shackle by the laws.

00:27:54

All of these laws, why do they call them laws anyway?

00:27:57

It was like, you know, the laws of gravity,

00:28:01

won’t reveal that.

00:28:01

The laws of gravity.

00:28:02

I won’t reveal that.

00:28:08

It’s that 19th century, you know,

00:28:12

there’s a Protestant desire to get everything in biblical and so forth.

00:28:13

Laws, laws, laws.

00:28:17

But we died in the middle of it.

00:28:18

We didn’t play the true book.

00:28:19

That happens.

00:28:25

In genetics, again, what about liberation?

00:28:32

The greatest enemy of human liberty,

00:28:36

the greatest terror, the thing that’s coerced us and pushed us into stupidities and has seduced us

00:28:39

into self-controls and activities is, of course,

00:28:42

the fear of aging and death.

00:28:45

And should we all aware of the fact that in the last 10, 15 years,

00:28:51

our scientists have finally decoded the Rosetta Stone of life and DNA,

00:28:56

and are promising us that within the last 10 years we will be able to clone yourself. Now, I call that liberating.

00:29:07

You know, it’s very interesting.

00:29:10

The forces

00:29:10

of control and restraint

00:29:12

always try to make it

00:29:14

a scary world. And, you know,

00:29:16

national security. You may not hear that word,

00:29:18

national security. The word security, watch out,

00:29:20

someone’s going to take some of your freedom away, right?

00:29:24

The controllers, some of them will take some of your freedom away, right?

00:29:25

The controllers, and again, I’m not putting them down.

00:29:30

They’re part of us.

00:29:32

They’re playing their, it’s our job as

00:29:34

the strong people to keep screwing them up.

00:29:38

But they always try to make science and freedom

00:29:41

and intelligence dangerous and sinful.

00:29:46

For example, every time they make a movie

00:29:48

about some free person

00:29:50

who has a new idea, like cloning,

00:29:52

for example, what does that sign

00:29:54

this clone?

00:29:55

He cloned

00:29:57

a hundred Farrah Fawcetts

00:29:59

or a hundred Muslims.

00:30:01

No, a hundred Indians.

00:30:04

Why? Because the average sense. No, I’m a hick.

00:30:05

Why?

00:30:08

Because the average

00:30:09

person has been taught to think

00:30:12

that homing is terrible because

00:30:13

they wouldn’t want 100 of them

00:30:16

running around.

00:30:19

I personally think

00:30:20

it would be a great thing if there were 100 Timothy

00:30:22

Larrys.

00:30:27

How about you? they would be a great thing if there were 100 Timothy Leary’s. Yeah. I’m a bad leader.

00:30:33

Well, I’m not going to take too much more time,

00:30:38

because I’d like to have some questions and answers

00:30:40

and discussions and debates, so you can be free to say what you want to.

00:30:48

Psychology, wow, what a liberation psychology.

00:30:52

I was treating psychology in 1940s and 50s.

00:30:57

And it’s hard for most of you to realize

00:31:00

how captured and imprisoned the American psychology was.

00:31:06

Freudism, which comes from China,

00:31:09

and Pavlovism, which comes from Russia.

00:31:12

It was all European authoritarian concepts

00:31:17

of the human nature.

00:31:19

Do you believe it or not,

00:31:20

but I was taught, as a graduate student in psychology,

00:31:23

that the function of mental health

00:31:27

was to adapt,

00:31:28

to adjust.

00:31:29

And they have causes

00:31:30

in adjustment.

00:31:33

If you look up

00:31:34

in the encyclopedia

00:31:34

the definition of intelligence

00:31:35

by Binet,

00:31:37

it is the ability

00:31:38

to listen up in the mind

00:31:39

so that you can adapt

00:31:40

to the environment

00:31:42

and see what changes

00:31:44

are taking place.

00:31:45

And I think 50 is an incredible level of liberation

00:31:47

to place in that very basic concept of psychology

00:31:50

led by such flamboyant anarchists as Carl Rogers

00:31:54

and Raoul May and Maslow and Brand and so forth.

00:32:00

This third force of psychology,

00:32:02

the humanist movement psychology,

00:32:04

that the notion of inner contention psychology, the notion of inner protection,

00:32:06

the notion of inner protection exists when I was being trained in psychology.

00:32:10

The idea that you can go within yourself, and when you’re in yourself, you are finding a cesspool of dinosaurs

00:32:16

on the side of the lake, destroying an unconscious sewage, so that this tremendous

00:32:25

liberty

00:32:26

in psychology

00:32:26

is again

00:32:28

part of

00:32:28

the

00:32:29

ground

00:32:29

swell

00:32:30

that we’re

00:32:31

all

00:32:31

researching

00:32:32

the way

00:32:34

that we’re

00:32:34

surfing

00:32:35

because we’ve

00:32:36

all been

00:32:36

liberated by

00:32:37

that

00:32:38

and

00:32:39

suddenly

00:32:40

it’s

00:32:40

going to

00:32:40

be

00:32:41

Heisenberg

00:32:42

I call

00:32:43

the

00:32:43

Heisenberg

00:32:44

indeterminacy now that’s again Heisenberg indeterminacy.

00:32:45

Now, that’s again a negative word, indeterminacy.

00:32:48

Well, I call Heisenberg determinacy.

00:32:51

The concept, why?

00:32:53

Well, you know what?

00:32:54

The problem is that the experimenter is always creating or fabricating experiments.

00:33:01

So the experimenter is always in it.

00:33:03

In other words, the experiment is not something

00:33:05

that was dreamed up by the scientists

00:33:07

and therefore a system.

00:33:08

Well, they’re wonderful.

00:33:09

That’s not good.

00:33:10

That means that now say that the universe is a state of mind.

00:33:16

That the universe is a, on information theory,

00:33:19

the universe is simply an enormous net of rays

00:33:23

sending signals.

00:33:25

And the function of science, the function of the free,

00:33:29

intelligent human being, is to carve out

00:33:34

of that flux of quantum and form the reality in one.

00:33:39

So that we’re getting down to the freedom of ontology.

00:33:43

The notion of multiple reality, which has developed in the last 50 years.

00:33:47

The drug movement, the castaneta, the policies that made it acceptable.

00:33:54

Castaneta should get the Nobel Prize for fiction, right?

00:34:01

The notion of muttler realities.

00:34:03

What a great notion. I’m trying to summarize.

00:34:21

I’m not rambling.

00:34:25

I’m not rambling. I’m not brain damaged.

00:34:30

Time magazine told me so.

00:34:33

We suffer from short-term memory loss on occasion.

00:34:39

But I’m not rambling now.

00:34:41

I’m zinging and z designing ideas around the room.

00:34:45

Everything I’m talking about is something

00:34:46

related to liberation of human courage

00:34:49

and imagination and human neural circuits.

00:34:55

There are three liberating technologies

00:35:01

that I want to really stress

00:35:05

and underline today.

00:35:08

We coined the acronym SMILE, that’s the end of iceberg

00:35:12

or the space migration,

00:35:13

probably some life extension.

00:35:15

And I’ll tell you the truth.

00:35:17

I don’t see how you can be a libertarian

00:35:19

and not be in favor of space migration.

00:35:25

the favor of space migration.

00:35:37

I come at this from many years before I knew about Gerard and the possibilities of space platforms,

00:35:40

when I realized it was simply gonna be cheaper

00:35:42

in 10, 15 years to have four and a half acres and a house up there

00:35:45

than it is in the outskirts of Long Beach.

00:35:51

Because I had to have the Oasis and the L5 people

00:35:54

do the hardware, board stuff to show us,

00:35:59

me and everyone else that’s off the shelf technologies

00:36:01

when it gets out there.

00:36:03

I simply don’t understand how many times a person

00:36:05

can not be a space migrant.

00:36:10

We in the space migration movement think of ourselves

00:36:13

now as kind of a grounded space, we’re post-terrestrials

00:36:16

and we simply gotta get around together

00:36:18

and build a bus or build a ram to get us up there.

00:36:23

I come by my space migration impulses.

00:36:28

I think I’ve learned them.

00:36:29

I’ve always wanted to get as high as possible.

00:36:34

Because no question, what’s a high altitude?

00:36:37

It’s at the Seaguar.

00:36:40

The trick is a navigation patrol.

00:36:42

The trick is a navigation patrol.

00:36:52

It’s the mooshy crash. Don’t get lost in the fog without some instrumental kind of thing.

00:37:00

When I talk about space, I’m going to say the moralists.

00:37:09

It’s those moralists that are always trying to shatter free.

00:37:18

They’re always trying to make it, you know, signs of libertarians and terrible things or something.

00:37:22

I guess we don’t have a sense of sin, do we?

00:37:24

We can afford to be libertarians.

00:37:33

And oftentimes, when I used to debate in space,

00:37:36

they said, why are you an escapist?

00:37:39

How dare you try to go off up there in the sky? Why don’t you fight for the suburbs?

00:37:45

We’ve got to

00:37:46

stay down here in the water

00:37:47

and fight with the dolphins and the

00:37:49

sharks.

00:37:51

You’re an escapist.

00:37:53

Damn right I’m an escapist.

00:37:57

I was

00:37:58

an invention of Franklin

00:37:59

and all the people that we

00:38:02

followed along the path.

00:38:04

I was very proud of that one time. I was in prison and they moved me around. I was actually in 39 jails all the people that we’ve followed along the path.

00:38:05

I was very proud of that one time.

00:38:07

I was in prison, they moved me around.

00:38:08

It was actually 39 jails and prisons in four continents.

00:38:13

My literary convention.

00:38:17

Without the very express card.

00:38:23

They moved me from jail to jail,

00:38:24

and when they get me into jail I was kind of, you know, curiosity

00:38:28

and they put me in the public cell. They take me and I’m on the, it’s called a jacket, my

00:38:33

jacket, big. And they go through it like this and all the white wraps and all the things

00:38:39

I got on the outside of my head.

00:38:50

My jacket, deep red letters, words, escape, risk.

00:38:51

I’m proud of that.

00:39:04

Because as libertarian tacticians, we must be aware of the fact that we simply cannot go back and liberate people

00:39:06

while they liberated.

00:39:08

Now some people genetically selected

00:39:11

towards such time travel backwards,

00:39:16

will infiltrate and try to decentralize

00:39:21

a little bit back there in the east.

00:39:24

But you’re never gonna decentralize New York City.

00:39:27

Really, you can’t decentralize an insect aisle.

00:39:32

You’re not going to decentralize Paris,

00:39:35

which is, you know,

00:39:36

been a bureaucratic center of a,

00:39:38

or you’re never going to,

00:39:39

you’re out in the decentralized Moscow and so forth.

00:39:42

It’s almost unfair to go back there to,

00:39:47

we should have to go back there we should send signals

00:39:47

back there

00:39:48

so that the

00:39:48

freedom loving

00:39:49

regimes

00:39:50

and freedom

00:39:50

loving

00:39:50

free agents

00:39:52

join us

00:39:52

here in the

00:39:53

frontier

00:39:53

we need them

00:39:54

but this

00:39:55

makes it

00:39:55

the ethics

00:39:57

of courtesy

00:39:57

of libertarianism

00:39:59

we’ve got to

00:39:59

get a new

00:40:00

frontier

00:40:00

we’ve got to

00:40:01

get new

00:40:01

open spaces

00:40:02

to try out

00:40:03

new

00:40:04

experiments in different lifestyles, different social styles, different economics.

00:40:10

You’re never going to let the IRS. You’re going to give them their money?

00:40:16

You know, one classic rule of human nature is that it’s rarely happened. that should really happen. Freedom does

00:40:25

lie upon the frontier.

00:40:28

Any freedom of a person

00:40:30

has got to use

00:40:31

some of their energies to help.

00:40:33

And I’m so happy and thrilled

00:40:36

and proud and liberated

00:40:37

by the fact that the

00:40:39

space migration people, OASIS, are here today

00:40:41

because one of the

00:40:43

problems with the space people, the aerospace people,

00:40:46

is they’re so hardware technological,

00:40:49

that they’re always talking about the moon bunkers, right?

00:40:52

And that’s necessarily wonderful,

00:40:53

but somehow they lose inside the fact

00:40:56

that the space migration, it’s simply the sexiness

00:40:59

and it’s a plentiful, it’s a wonderful thing

00:41:00

and it’s not up by human imagination.

00:41:04

So I’m glad that I could see this beginning

00:41:07

of a communication and interaction,

00:41:10

interfacing of space and libertarianism.

00:41:13

Once this word gets back to the space migration movement,

00:41:16

I think the seeds of this union are going to,

00:41:19

this impregnation, or this conception,

00:41:23

is going to be a wondering through the future.

00:41:28

I’ll talk about space migration.

00:41:33

Intelligence increase.

00:41:37

We’ve got to get smarter.

00:41:39

The smart thing to do for any smart person

00:41:42

who’s straight all out is to get smarter.

00:41:45

The intelligent thing to do for any smart person, straight up out loud, is to get smarter. The intelligent thing to do is to get more intelligent.

00:41:48

How do you get more intelligent?

00:41:50

Well, one of the ways to get more intelligent

00:41:52

is to migrate.

00:41:55

Move your body around.

00:41:59

And where, migrate where?

00:42:01

Migrate where there are people that are as intelligent

00:42:04

and more intelligent than you.

00:42:06

Because like tenets and lovemaking,

00:42:10

intelligence increasing is done better with a partner

00:42:13

that is better at it than you.

00:42:23

Now, we get to intelligence increase.

00:42:28

I’ve said already that libertarians are smarter.

00:42:30

I think we’ve got to get a lot smarter.

00:42:34

We’ve got to use, you know,

00:42:36

there is the concept of libertarianism,

00:42:39

it was one concept of hippies too,

00:42:41

that the way to be free is to lay back,

00:42:44

maybe, and don’t get involved

00:42:46

and to get a little cave or a little cabin

00:42:48

and hunting fish and a little like that.

00:42:51

That’s nice.

00:42:53

Because you have the luxury of living a fairly

00:42:56

rhythmic life in the 20th century.

00:43:00

And black people are doing that because we watch them

00:43:02

and listen to them and they’re going to learn things.

00:43:05

But let’s face it, the future of the human race and human freedom is not going away from technology.

00:43:14

We’ve got to get a lot more skillful in our technology.

00:43:18

You know, the neurology, brain research, psychopharmacology.

00:43:26

I’m moving on.

00:43:27

They say we’re too much drugs,

00:43:28

so this is my drug commercial.

00:43:36

I’m basically pro-drugs.

00:43:43

Why?

00:43:43

Because drugs give you more options. uh why because drugs

00:43:45

give you

00:43:46

more options

00:43:47

uh

00:43:48

now I’m not

00:43:49

pro-anyone

00:43:50

drug

00:43:50

I’m pro

00:43:51

freedom

00:43:51

drugs

00:43:52

the body

00:43:53

the brain

00:43:54

is above all

00:43:55

concerned

00:43:56

constantly

00:43:57

and one person

00:43:58

you

00:43:58

and no one

00:43:59

including me

00:44:00

has the right

00:44:00

to tell you

00:44:01

do this

00:44:02

or do that

00:44:02

the next

00:44:03

objection

00:44:04

we get

00:44:04

pass on navigation tips but uh the frontiers of freedom are the body I mean, he has the right to tell you, do this or do that. He makes suggestions. We get past that.

00:44:05

I’m an allegation of tips.

00:44:06

But the frontiers of freedom are the body and the brain.

00:44:11

And the human DNA.

00:44:12

And it gets into a portion, gets into some of that frontier where it starts.

00:44:17

And once you realize the freedom starts at the skin, it goes within.

00:44:22

I think this is a great dimension.

00:44:23

the skin that goes within. I think this is a great dimension.

00:44:24

It’s interesting, too, that we can only

00:44:28

go as far outward as we have gone inward.

00:44:33

And if you study the sociology of inner and outer space

00:44:37

in the last 20 years, at the time when America was really

00:44:42

thrusting outward, and we were putting our own sea on the moon,

00:44:48

the height of the space program outward was the height of the inner space movement.

00:44:54

People were running around, going for other things.

00:44:56

Every man had gone before within the streets and universes of their own brain.

00:45:02

in the universes of their own brain. This is not an accident, because as soon

00:45:06

as the inner space movement began to look

00:45:08

the outer space movement,

00:45:12

so that the pursuit of the new circuits and the new realms

00:45:19

and new frontiers of the brain, which

00:45:21

are going to involve the intelligence of drugs

00:45:24

by those who want to do this as a form of liberation.

00:45:29

This is part of the package.

00:45:30

I’m sure most of you understand the view of that.

00:45:35

The final thing I mentioned is life extension.

00:45:39

The cell doctor, Roy Wolferfe from UCLA two nights ago.

00:45:47

He’s known as the immunologist, DNA theorist.

00:45:52

And they’re going to have an amputation,

00:45:54

a gestation of death in the two to five years.

00:45:59

How can the libertarian not want to live for 100 more years?

00:46:03

be a libertarian and not want to live for 100 more years.

00:46:10

It’s interesting, you see, most of the anti-freedom control forces, that’s all they have, are insecurity, fear,

00:46:14

and the fact that you’re not going to have much of a chance.

00:46:18

Most people, even in the 20th century, even in America,

00:46:22

even in California, still think that one shot at the resume.

00:46:26

One career.

00:46:27

Or maybe a midlife crisis.

00:46:30

You can get a divorce and maybe another job.

00:46:36

Imagine, you know, we can tell people.

00:46:38

It’s our function as libertarians

00:46:40

to tell people, hey, you have space.

00:46:43

You can have four-hour papers out there.

00:46:45

Children, just get ready. You can have four half acres up there. Just get ready.

00:46:46

Help us in space moving.

00:46:48

And in 10 or 15 years, you’ll be able to swap

00:46:50

half an acre in San Diego for four half acres up there.

00:46:55

Cost you time and time, just the way you want it.

00:46:57

We’ve got to tell them freedom is wonderful.

00:47:00

Freedom is practical.

00:47:03

Freedom is glamorous.

00:47:04

And you can live. How about 100 years? Well, 100 years is what? Freedom is practical. Freedom is glamorous.

00:47:07

And you can live 100 years.

00:47:10

Well, 100 years more, this is not liberating.

00:47:13

100 years, boom.

00:47:17

Well, you can get five years off and serve.

00:47:26

You’re listening to The Psychedelic Salon,

00:47:30

where people are changing their lives one thought at a time.

00:47:34

Yeah, that sounds pretty good.

00:47:38

Maybe we should all take the next five years off and surf.

00:47:43

Actually, that’s probably what we should have been doing these last eight years for all the good they’ve done us. But that’s another story. However, before I say anything else,

00:47:48

I first want to assure my friends and relatives in Ireland

00:47:52

that I definitely do not agree with Dr. Leary when he

00:47:56

said that he was Irish and that all of the smartest Irishmen

00:48:00

had already left the land. The reason that my grandfather left the old

00:48:04

sod was to find work.

00:48:06

Now things are different.

00:48:08

At least until recently, there were

00:48:09

better jobs for smarter people in Ireland

00:48:11

than there were here in the States.

00:48:13

So I hope that all of our fellow

00:48:15

slaughters who don’t live in California

00:48:17

don’t take offense at what I

00:48:19

suspect was being said in jest.

00:48:22

That said, I can no longer

00:48:24

imagine myself living anywhere else

00:48:26

other than on the California coast. It’s a truly different vibe out here, but let’s not get

00:48:32

started down that rabbit hole. Ultimately, the best place to live on this little planet is

00:48:37

wherever it is that you are most comfortable. Feel at home and have as much freedom as you need to keep from going crazy.

00:48:56

Another reason I decided to play this particular talk by Dr. Leary today is because from what I gather from the various forums over at thegrowreport.com and from my own email during last year’s never-ending political campaigning, is that there are a lot of libertarians among us.

00:49:04

campaigning, is that there are a lot of libertarians among us.

00:49:10

Now, while I don’t subscribe to any particular political party’s philosophy, I do agree that there is much about libertarianism that I like.

00:49:14

And while Timothy Leary probably wasn’t speaking specifically about the Libertarian Party as

00:49:19

such, he seems to have been in tune with much of what that party stands for today.

00:49:24

He seems to have been in tune with much of what that party stands for today.

00:49:28

As for his thoughts about space migration,

00:49:32

well, I think I’ve probably covered that enough times now to let you know that I don’t think space migration is something we humans should be spending our time on.

00:49:38

And if you want to learn why I think that way,

00:49:40

then take a listen to a conversation that I had with Bruce Dahmer on this topic

00:49:45

a couple of years ago. It’s in a standalone podcast that I did at matrixcast.com, and

00:49:52

that’s a little project I’ve had to put on the back burner until I finished my book.

00:49:57

But the one talk I’ve posted there so far will give you a lot of background information

00:50:02

on the topic of space migration, moon bases, and other fantasies that are going to cost the U.S. taxpayers a significant amount of money, with probably no return.

00:50:14

Nonetheless, this time I didn’t cut out the parts where he went on about space migration, because it actually was an important part of his message during the last decade or so of his life.

00:50:24

It actually was an important part of his message during the last decade or so of his life.

00:50:31

Man, what I’d give right now to be able to record a conversation between Tim Leary and Bruce Dahmer about space migration.

00:50:33

Wouldn’t that be fascinating?

00:50:42

But getting back to our old consensus reality here, let’s get to a couple of emails that you may want to know about.

00:50:45

The first comes from Gregory S., who writes,

00:50:48

Hi, Lorenzo. I discovered the salon a while back,

00:50:50

and it has been a miracle for me,

00:50:53

reconnecting with things that I thought were only a part of my past.

00:50:56

I’ve been seeking others who can think psychedelically and be willing to engage.

00:50:59

After years in the academic world,

00:51:02

I thought that these interest areas of my life would forever be on the shelf. Thanks for renewing my passion in the

00:51:08

expansion of consciousness. Then he says where he lives, and he goes on.

00:51:12

And I would like to connect with others in my area. Can you suggest

00:51:16

a group or website that might let me find some like-minded individuals

00:51:20

to interact with? Thanks again. My contact information is

00:51:24

below.

00:51:26

Well, Gregory, the reason I picked your email to read is because it’s representative of so many

00:51:33

others that come in each week. And we talk about that quite often in the various forums

00:51:39

on the growreport.com. And while I still don’t have any surefire answers,

00:51:49

I have started experimenting a little with Facebook and Twitter to see if there might be a way to begin connecting

00:51:51

through the use of those social networking platforms.

00:51:55

I’m still feeling my way around,

00:51:56

but thanks to the help of fellow salonner Joanna D.,

00:52:00

who I believe joins us from Russia each week,

00:52:04

I’ve now changed the spelling of my first name on Facebook to the way it should be spelled, L-O-R-E-N-Z-O.

00:52:11

Thanks for the help, Joanna. Appreciate it.

00:52:15

Of course, I still have no idea about how these technologies are going to help us find and connect with the others in our local areas,

00:52:22

but at least this is a little start.

00:52:22

and connect with the others in our local areas.

00:52:24

But at least this is a little start.

00:52:28

For my part, I’m going to post something on Twitter every day where I’m following about 10 people who are also following me.

00:52:32

Right now, I’m thinking of using Twitter and Facebook announcements

00:52:35

to let you know what new podcasts I’m listening to.

00:52:39

Because the rate at which interesting new podcasts are coming online

00:52:42

is just too fast to mention them all here in the salon.

00:52:46

And through that program, I discovered the podcasts and music of Jesse Miller.

00:52:52

So I took a look at his Mystic Mind podcast channel on iTunes and was really impressed at the number of programs and the topics that he covers.

00:53:01

Now, I haven’t had a chance to listen to him yet, but I plan on doing so this

00:53:05

weekend. But from what I heard in the interview with Cody and Jesse, I know that he’s somebody

00:53:11

who has ideas I’d like to hear more about. So over time, I’ll be broadcasting, I guess you’d

00:53:17

call it, twittering short comments about those and other podcasts I listen to, and as well as

00:53:24

letting you know what I’m working on myself

00:53:25

for a podcast. And I’ll be posting other stuff that way, too, like a few pictures I begin to

00:53:31

put up on Facebook lately. But to answer your question, Gregory, I guess that this is just

00:53:37

another stall, because right now I still don’t know of any safe way to find the others in your

00:53:42

area. As I’ve said in the past, while I’ve found many others at various conferences and festivals I’ve attended,

00:53:49

very few of them have been physically close to where I live.

00:53:53

And so a good many of my psychedelic friends, almost all of them actually, live long distances from where I am.

00:54:01

But all you really need is to have one or two psychedelic friends close by, and the rest

00:54:06

you can stay in touch with over the net. It’s not the best of situations, but at least it’s a big

00:54:12

improvement over what we had working for us just a few years ago. Another email comes from Evan J.,

00:54:19

who says in part, First, I would like to thank you for taking the time to produce these podcasts.

00:54:24

I’m a 20-year-old college student trying to find my place in the universe.

00:54:28

I was first introduced to Terrence through these podcasts, and my life hasn’t been the same since.

00:54:34

I know what you mean, Evan.

00:54:36

After hearing Terrence for the first time myself, I think I found my life beginning to morph into something new.

00:54:43

And Evan goes on to say,

00:54:42

I found my life beginning to morph into something new.

00:54:44

And Evan goes on to say,

00:54:49

I wanted to write in today and ask if you had any more talks with Zoe7,

00:54:50

or where to find some.

00:54:55

Also, I wanted to ask if you thought about producing one with Bill Hicks in it.

00:54:58

I recently heard a soundbite in which Bill was talking about how it was our time to evolve into the compassionate race that we should be.

00:55:03

It contained some very good psychedelic memes

00:55:06

that I think would fit very nicely within the salon.

00:55:09

Thank you once again for the time you’ve taken out of your life

00:55:11

to spread these great vibrations.

00:55:14

Well, Greg, first of all, thanks for the kind words.

00:55:18

And I’m not aware of any more talks by Zoe,

00:55:21

but I do know that he’s been doing some intensive work in the Amazon these

00:55:26

past few years, and so I hope that once he returns from the jungle, if he ever does, that we’ll be

00:55:32

able to get him to tell us what he’s been up to lately. And as for Bill Hicks, as much as I’d

00:55:38

love to string together some of his bits that are available on YouTube, I’m afraid that the

00:55:44

copyright cops would be knocking on my

00:55:46

door and telling me to remove the program from the net. But in case you haven’t heard some of

00:55:51

the highly intelligent and topical humor of the late great Bill Hicks, you simply don’t know what

00:55:56

you’re missing. So check him out on YouTube if you get a chance. I don’t think you’ll be disappointed.

00:56:02

Another thing I want to mention is to thank all of you who have written a comment on iTunes about these podcasts,

00:56:09

or linking to us, commenting about programs on your websites, telling your friends about the salon.

00:56:16

All of those things directly contribute to the growth of our worldwide psychedelic community.

00:56:22

And Abby Yo-Yo, I really enjoyed the comment you made where you said, you give me faith

00:56:28

in the possibilities of aging.

00:56:30

Well, thanks for saying that.

00:56:32

I really appreciate it.

00:56:34

And as we just heard Dr. Leary say, you are only as old as the last time you changed your

00:56:39

mind.

00:56:40

So I think I’m going to go find something to change my mind about today.

00:56:44

And so I think I’m going to go find something to change my mind about today.

00:56:51

I also want to mention Shine’s Place, S-H-I-N-E-S-P-L-A-C-E, shine’splace.com,

00:56:56

who is also linking to our site and posting some glowing reviews about these podcasts.

00:57:01

All of those little links and comments that you do have a way of adding up,

00:57:05

and ultimately one of your links might be the missing link for somebody who now knows that there are at least a lot of others out there another thing that i plan to

00:57:11

make a little time for today is to revisit the suggested music thread on our forum over at the

00:57:17

girl report.com in one of those postings there you’ll find a link to the Amazon store over at Opaque Lens’ website, www.shamanicfreedom.com.

00:57:30

What he’s doing is posting Amazon links to all of the books that our fellow salonners are recommending in that thread.

00:57:38

And while you can obviously go directly to Amazon, why not help out a fellow salonner and podcaster, Opaque Lens, by buying a book or two through his store.

00:57:49

Finally, I want to mention an event that

00:57:51

will take place at the end of this week. Actually, I planned

00:57:55

on getting this podcast out last Sunday so you could hear about this sooner, but

00:57:59

a whole series of unexpected interruptions prevented that, so this may

00:58:04

be too late for you to get this announcement,

00:58:06

but hopefully you’ll still be able to make it if you live in the Bay Area.

00:58:10

Here is part of what the flyer announcing this event says.

00:58:13

It’s a party for Timothy Leary friends and family. Please come.

00:58:18

Now this event is going to take place at 630 this coming Sunday, February 8, 2009,

00:58:24

at 6.30 this coming Sunday, February 8, 2009 at the Minna Gallery, M-I-N-N-A,

00:58:28

Minna Gallery on 2nd Street

00:58:30

between Howard and Mission in San Francisco.

00:58:32

And there’s going to be receptions, talks, a film.

00:58:36

People like Ralph Metzner will be there,

00:58:38

John Perry Barlow, R.U. Sirius,

00:58:41

Zach Leary, Dennis Barry, Brewster Kahle.

00:58:44

There’s going to be a whole bunch of interesting people there.

00:58:48

And also they’ll be announcing the launch of several creative projects

00:58:52

that use material from the Timothy Leary archives,

00:58:55

such as this movie, The Terrestrials,

00:58:58

which is a documentary that will premiere right after the reception.

00:59:01

And if you can make it to that event, be sure to look for Bruce Dahmer.

00:59:04

And if he’s got

00:59:06

his voice recorder with him, particularly,

00:59:08

maybe you can send a little sound

00:59:10

bite to your fellow salonners.

00:59:11

I’m hoping that there will be enough conversation

00:59:14

recorded to provide an audio

00:59:15

portrait of the event here in the salon

00:59:17

one day, but in any event, if you

00:59:20

can’t find any of the others there, well,

00:59:22

I don’t know what to say,

00:59:23

because there should be no one but others there, well, I don’t know what to say, because there should be no one

00:59:26

but others there. So if you attend, don’t be shy. Introduce yourself to some people, and who knows,

00:59:32

you may meet your new best friend there this weekend. And while I can’t make it up to San

00:59:37

Francisco for this event myself, you can rest assured that I’ll be with you there in spirit.

00:59:42

Now, as always, I’ll close this podcast by saying that

00:59:46

this and all of the podcasts from the Psychedelic Salon

00:59:49

are available for your use under the

00:59:51

Creative Commons Attribution Non-Commercial Share Like 3.0 license.

00:59:56

And if you have any questions about that,

00:59:57

just click the Creative Commons link at the bottom of the

01:00:00

Psychedelic Salon webpage, which you can find at

01:00:03

psychedelicsalon.org.

01:00:08

And that’s also where you’ll find the program notes for these podcasts.

01:00:13

And for now, this is Lorenzo signing off from Cyberdelic Space.

01:00:15

Be well, my friends.