314 - In a German Salon Part 2

Program Notes

strong>[NOTE: All quotations are by Timothy Leary.]

“Since World War II, in the Western societies, the generation you belong to is almost a different species.”

“It’s a wonderful time in history to be alive when young people are doing things better than grownups. Because that’s a key sign that evolution’s happening, because evolution only happens with young people.”

“I feel that it is necessary, if you want to continue to evolve, that you have to learn and be comfortable with computers.”

Juan Enriquez:
“Will our kids be a different species?”

Transcript

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Greetings from cyberdelic space.

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This is Lorenzo and I’m your host here in the psychedelic salon.

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space. This is Lorenzo and I’m your host here in the Psychedelic Salon. And once again, I want to start out by thanking those kind souls who either bought a copy of one of my books or who made a

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direct donation to the salon. Your support is greatly appreciated and hopefully I’ve already

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sent you a thank you note by email. However, I still haven’t gotten those two snail mail thank

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yous out yet. I promised a week or so ago, but that should happen this week.

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However, I just want all of you to know how much I appreciate your support.

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Well, here we are back together again in the salon.

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And already last weekend’s workshop at the Esalen Institute seems like a dream, but a very pleasant dream, of course.

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dream, but a very pleasant dream, of course. It was a really interesting weekend, and I’m still seeing all the faces of the people who were there, and the new friendships I made, the old ones that

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we re-established. It was really great, and in the weeks ahead, I’ll be podcasting several hours of

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the conversations from that event for all of us here in the salon, and we’ll eventually get the video of it posted online as well,

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and I’ll keep you informed about that.

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But in case you haven’t already seen the posting on my Facebook page, I came home with over

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150 cassette tape recordings of workshops that Terrence McKenna led at Esalen over the

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years.

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And while I’m sure that some of them we’ve already heard here in the salon,

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from what I can tell just by reading the labels on the tapes, we’ve probably got over a hundred new Terrence McKenna talks to listen to here in the salon over the next couple of years.

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So if you are a big fan of his, I think that you and I are going to have a lot of fun in the months

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ahead. And what this means is that I’m no longer concerned about keeping the

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salon going with new and interesting material for a few more years. Now for today, I want to pick up

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where we left off with the good Dr. Timothy Leary holding forth in a very small group setting

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somewhere in Germany. And as near as I can tell, this somewhat private salon was held sometime in 1983,

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which is the date you might want to keep in mind as you listen,

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because some of the things he refers to will seem pretty old-fashioned now, I think.

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Anyhow, what I’m about to play is the second tape in this series, and I haven’t cut anything out. This is just where it picked up after the last one stopped, the one that I played last week.

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So let’s pick up where we left off in my previous podcast

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and hear what was on Timothy Leary’s mind

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about 30 years ago.

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It can’t change because you cannot recreate the force

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of the original event of childhood

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and mother and father and so forth.

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Well, through our experiments with LSD, in our early experiments we found something that

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was very powerful and very frightening and very good, we found that during powerful drug experiences, or any powerful life experience, like when a mother gives birth to a baby,

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But when a mother gives birth to a baby, there’s a reprogramming of her brain or re-entering. It has to be because here’s a 20 year old girl and she gets married, right?

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And she’s working 100 times, 100 times, and suddenly she’s pregnant and then suddenly there’s a baby, to keep the thing going, she has to be totally involved in that baby.

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That’s a reprogramming of her reality, it’s a reprogramming of her brain.

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A new circus came out, powerful chemical experience.

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When the mother looks at the baby, and the baby gives the suck, all these circuits go

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on in the brain, and that’s the most powerful brain-change drug there is, giving birth to

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a baby.

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However, if the mother is not there, in some cases the baby is taken away from

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the mother. The baby does not make that first imprint and it’s called childhood schizophrenia

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or autism. Or, if the mother, many terrible things have happened

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the mother is maybe very

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pained or frightened and the baby is born

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and the first time she looks at the baby

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and she thinks the baby is going to be like the baby

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who that

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my mommy

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twisted

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the first imprint My body is like this. What if you twisted it like that?

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The first imprint is not that way.

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And there’s a very psychiatric situation

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that’s called postpartum depression.

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Yeah.

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And that imprint is not made.

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And that’s very complicated.

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So the wonderful thing about the imprint

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and the way the brain is made by DNA

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is that people imprint all these different Chinese

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and German and Danish,

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like whoever speaks German,

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I’m saying Danish,

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unless they were born in it, right?

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Because Danish is very hard.

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I’m in Danish.

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I like to say it’s true.

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The opening up of the

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brain

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and the program is put in

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of German or Chinese

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or of the

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fat woman with the red blooms

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or the baby, whatever.

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What we discovered during our

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LSD experience is that

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re-entraining was taking place

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and that there are hundreds and hundreds of cases in early LSD experience where in our last experiences that re-imprinting was taking place.

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And there are hundreds and hundreds of cases in our early OSD experience where

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someone was very open and they’d go to the refrigerator

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and they’d open the door of the refrigerator

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and there’s all that plastic food. Hundreds of thousands of people became vegetarians on the spot.

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I’m sure all of you have heard of this person.

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That’s imprinting or re-throbbering. And what that led us to discover is, and this is one of the most wonderful,

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optimistic discoveries that I’ve ever heard about, it is possible to re-print the human

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brain. Or, if your brain is a biocomputer, it’s possible to reprogram the brain.

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Now, there are all sorts of laws about reprogramming or re-imprinting.

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An imprint lasts about one week, unless it’s reinforced.

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imprint lasts about one week, unless it’s reinforced. So, if you, say, you imprint something very new, four, five, six days is kind of a date away. If you re-imprint something that’s familiar, then it tends to be enforced.

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Now this re-imprinting can be very dangerous. There are many cases, particularly early in

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our research, when a husband and wife would take out his knee together together and the wife would come up to the husband and smile.

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The husband was shocked.

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So, for several days, when they tried to make home. After five or six days,

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you’ve got one week to adapt.

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However,

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if the wide deer is not like a shark,

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then

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maybe they get to work.

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So the

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process of re-inventining or reprogramming and we all uh

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you weren’t yesterday when i talked about john lilly the concept of the brain is about computer

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we all do john lilly was a natural thing but he was the first one who wrote the book

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on uh metaprogramming and metaprogramming the human brain it’s one of the great classic books in psychology. And we’re just

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at the beginning of a new science of reprogramming or re-imprinting your own brain. And it is

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true that if you want to do it, if you learn how to do it, it’s possible to reprogram your brain.

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And now, if you have a microcomputer,

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you know, an Apple,

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you can go get the software,

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you can get the sloppy disks, you know,

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and you pay $50 and you get a disk for bookkeeping

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or you get a disk for Space Armada, like that.

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You can make up your mind, really, and reprogram your brain if you want to.

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I want to mention now, and then we’ll have a break in two minutes, but I want to mention one more idea. A very important area of science now is demographics, population genetics, population studies.

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And there are two aspects to this.

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Where you live is one of the most important things about you,

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because geography is destiny, and the ecological nature of habit

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really determines

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what species, what level of intelligence

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you live at.

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And also, the year you were born,

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the generation you belong to.

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It’s terrible, but

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the generation you belong to

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in a Western society,

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not in the old societies,

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because there are

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no generations, but since World War II in the Western societies, the generation you

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belong to is almost a different species. Like yesterday I took a walk down into the village

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and I saw the people that were over the age of 50 walking along.

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And they looked just the way they looked 40 years ago.

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They had umbrellas and they had raincoats.

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And you know, what German man and woman of 50 look like?

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Little glass.

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Walking along like this.

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And then I look at the German kids, see?

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And we’re dealing with two different

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species. So, those born after 1946, in America, I’m not sure it’s true here, 1946, after Hiroshima,

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television, multiple reality, those born after 1946, they think very differently.

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And that’s the generation which is the body intelligence generation that I’ve been talking about.

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Those born after 1965 are a different species. You know, when a hundred years ago, every boy, he was born to, you know, to take care

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of a horse very quickly.

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Then when, in the 1920s and 30s, the mechanical age, like every boy had a, was born with a wrench in his hand.

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And his father is saying, you know,

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what are you going to do with those pliers?

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Pull the horse’s teeth?

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No.

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And then, kids today in Germany and in America

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are born with that computer thing, that is a new level of intelligence and a new species. But it is

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possible. I can never be able to do computers as well as someone born in 1965. On the other

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hand, I understand that, so I don’t feel left out and I can at least try a little bit.

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Now, this is the first time, probably, in human history that little children can do things,

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complicated things, better than their grown-ups. That violates all the rules.

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In, uh, I told this story in, uh, Hempburg, um, You know the Rubik’s Cube?

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The Rubik’s Cube is invented in Hungary, right?

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The Rubik.

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But they became very popular in America.

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The biggest selling book in America last year,

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8 million copies book,

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much bigger than any Bible book,

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was the Adam and the Ruth’s Cube.

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8 million copies.

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That’s the biggest selling book

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written in the Bible, either.

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Now, in Hungary,

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the Commissar of Education

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and the government

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got very angry and upset.

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They said,

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we’ve got to stop the Rubik’s Cube.

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Oh, the Soviet Union said,

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ah, the Rubik’s Cube

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is another example

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of degenerate,

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decadent capitalism

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to take the young people’s minds is another example of degenerate, decadent capitalism to take

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the young people’s minds off the working class

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in the revolution.

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In Hungary, the

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Arab knows that

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this is terrible

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because the kids can

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do it better than the teachers.

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It’s impossible.

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Children cannot do anything better

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than the teachers.

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And it’s true. I have some friends who are sons of the children of my friends.

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Every kid’s come in and do the same thing.

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It’s a wonderful time in history to be alive when young people are doing better than grown-ups.

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Because that’s the key sign that evolution is happening,

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because evolution only happens with young people.

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So now we have these three generations,

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the after 65, and then the 46 to 64,

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and then we have evolutions happening.

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As we look at history, it’s obvious that at each new stage of evolution, there’s great fear because changes are happening so quickly the the fear of

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drugs for example but even before that the first time that machines came there was that, the first time that machines came, there was that fear.

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The first time automobiles came, the farmer said,

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the cows won’t give milk and the chickens won’t lay eggs.

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And if a human being goes faster than 20 miles an hour, it’ll be bad and we’ll go crazy.

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Every new technology that expands our mobility

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and changes the way we think and live, there’s

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always this superstitious fear. And there is a fear right now, of course, there’s a great fear of drugs.

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And there’s even a great fear of computers.

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And particularly among people from the 60s and 70s generation,

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there’s a fear of technology.

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And many people in the 60s and 70s wanted to go back to an earlier way of life. And that’s good.

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The wonderful thing about today, there’s so many different experiences you can make with your life and your lifestyle.

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And the idea that hundreds of thousands of European and American young people are going to India, hitchhiked around the Middle East and studied yoga. I don’t think that the next day of evolution is going to come from everybody going to India

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and wearing an orange robe. I think it’s wonderful to use the stages and the intelligent person

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who wants to experience and relive different stages.

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When we were first taking LST, for example, one period, we spent three or four months living in teepees.

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Now, teepees are a very aesthetic place to live.

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And it goes up, your eyes go up, and you have furs, and you have fire.

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You can see the moon at night. On that side of the TV you can see the forms reflected.

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It’s very aesthetic. And also, you get used to, you activate, reactivate earlier primitive aspects of your brain.

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As we did that first night with the rongabonga and we went around dancing with the candles, that’s good. Because we have

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these

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circuits of the brain

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and

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I think the intelligent person

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in the future

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will try to reactivate

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almost every day or every week.

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Like I said, it’s very good

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to fold this up

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for an hour a day or an hour a week,

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but you don’t want to do it all the time. The taboos about computers and about video

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games are extremely interesting. In America, I told you about the Rubik’s Cube, but in

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America, in many conservative cities and villages, they passed laws against children playing video games.

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The other day in Hamburg, I was being interviewed

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by a 24-year-old, very sophisticated young German writer

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who was violently opposed to video games.

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He said, it’s terrible.

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These young kids go to these places and they put their marks in.

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And they just, like Trump,

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they get this watch, you know,

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and they’re in their own mind.

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He was saying the same things

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that his father was saying about marijuana

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15 years ago.

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And the changes of generations

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are happening so quickly.

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There’s a movie. See, the thing about video games is very interesting. It’s part of this brain computer intelligence.

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The concept in video games is hands-on. And kids now, 5, 6, 7 years old, are learning to, they have one button that goes this way and they fire, and this is for hyperspace, and this is for select, and this is for, a lot of these little games, like they have one I’ve talked about many times, it’s called Las Vegas Gambling. You put that in the little Atari home video thing.

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And then the six-year-old child, first thing is enter.

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And then, how much money do you want?

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So I put 5,000 marks.

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And then, what game do you want to play?

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Blackjack, seven cards there, five cards there, five cards draw. And the six-year-old play, blackjack, seven cards to bet, five cards to bet, five cards to draw, and the six-year-old shouts at the blackjack.

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There’s a little man in the video, he’s got a little mustache, and his eyes go…

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And they go, click, click, the cards come, and then it says bet, and then the draft, and then it’s 50 marks marks, and then hit or stand, you know, for a black jacket.

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The game is programmed to be the best Las Vegas croupier, gambler.

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There’s a six-year-old kid who is actually matching wits, not with a machine.

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You’re talking through the machine to other people. So the computer is really

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with now, the first generation of computers, it was a computer hack. You just go there

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and he didn’t care about food, he was just getting a coke and he had bad complexion and

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he didn’t wash and he didn’t go out with girls, he was just there because he was trying to

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talk to the machine. But now the second generation, oh yes, people.

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The universities.

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The universities in America.

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Patrick, you must not use computers for frivolous playing.

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Ha ha ha ha ha.

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Now the second generation,

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the kids that come along,

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they’re not playing with the computer.

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They’re using the computer

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to match with the most intelligent programmers

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of, let’s say, New San Francisco.

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So the computer now is like a telephone.

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But the concept of hands-on

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means that you, the child, or the human being,

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is no longer a passive victim.

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Now we have it all victimized by movies and by television.

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You have movies there, you pay your money,

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you sit there, popcorn, and you’re there,

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and they’re doing things to you.

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And they are controlling, they’re programming, they really are programming.

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The reason you and I smoke cigarettes is because we saw Gary Cooper.

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You know, you got the, you know, you got the roses, you got the…

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Or me, you know, you sit and you drink beer and you watch TV. You’re passive. But the video games, the concept of hands-on is…

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Now the first video game was Pong. It was just Pong, Pong, Pong, Pong. That was like 1976. Why do people do that? I’ve done the second generation,

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third generation.

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Within two years, they will have video

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games in which

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it will be as complicated

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as Goethe’s Faust

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or Shakespeare or Star Wars. Right now,

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they have Star Wars. You can be Darth Vader,

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you can be Ansel, you can be

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only, you know,

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Juan Cadovey, or you play these…

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So these children are learning how to be active.

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They’re not going to be passive…

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Because they’re going to get bored.

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Because they get very bored with video games,

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that means that the people that make them

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have to make them better and better and more and more complicated.

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And then when they get the idea of putting in a disc,

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putting in a game, learning it, pulling it out,

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playing something.

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One thing you could do before with television

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was change the dial, that’s one thing.

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And the little baby that changed the dial

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was seeing more, multiple reality,

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was seeing more than the great sultans had in the past.

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But with video games it’s much more active

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and it is a higher level of intelligence.

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Now, it is always possible,

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there is always the danger that the commissars,

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or the chancellors, or the presidents,

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or the heads of merchandising and marketing

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of the big corporations or the presidents or the heads of merchandising and marketing of the corporations or the military will try to program it

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to program our brains.

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But, as I said, I don’t know if I just said that today,

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I think I said that today,

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IBM and the KGB and CIA, their programming,

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and their getting instructions, they don’t have the freedom.

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Throughout human history,

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evolution has always depended upon

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the one single intelligent

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individual who had enough

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courage and confidence to be able

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to stand up

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to the system

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and say, no.

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Or intelligent enough to say,

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no!

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No. I wanted to say, No! Or,

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or what do you say?

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Oh, yes.

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Yes.

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Yes.

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To as intelligent a single person

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as all the options

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to,

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your time,

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go there and mention,

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yahoo,

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you know,

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you can do that or,

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so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, yahoo, you know, you can do that.

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Sotanistic said,

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one writer can bring down an empire.

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And the history of human evolution is a history of intelligent individuals,

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women and men,

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who have carried this tradition.

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It’s the oldest tradition of the mystery schools,

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the masochist schools,

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the Sufi schools,

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the yogi schools,

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the Illuminati,

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the Templars,

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throughout human history

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there have always been

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those who have said

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that the purpose of human life

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is to find the intelligence within

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and not the external reward. So the same thing is going to be true

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with computers and video games. I feel that it is necessary, if you want to continue to

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evolve, to get to learn and be comfortable with computers. You don’t have to become an

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comfortable with computers. You don’t have to become an expert yogi at computers, but

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you should know enough about how computers are programmed, because like it or not, your brain is going to be programmed by someone who’s programming computers. And you must

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know enough about it to be able to, at least be able to get the problems that you want.

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There’s a movie

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that just came out in America called Tron.

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Have you heard about it, Tron?

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This movie,

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see,

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video games are now

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at the stage that the motion pictures

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are at when they have zootropes

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and you put in a mark and, you know,

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they flash the little pictures like this. They haven’t even started using computer video games. The first movie

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that did this is a movie by Walt Disney called Tron. And it’s about a man and a woman and another man. They’re all programmers of video games.

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And this one man has made a video game

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that’s very, very popular.

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But the computer company,

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and actually the computer cheated him out of his royalty,

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so he’s very angry.

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And he wants to break into the computer

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to get proof that it was his game.

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And as he learns more about the computer,

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he’s blocking him off from access

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to certain parts of the computer.

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And then his two friends,

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the woman and the man,

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are also getting to know too much about the computer

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so that they are blocked off from their own games.

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And suddenly they are told,

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well, the system’s down, you can’t work on the computer today.

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But inside the computer,

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the people from, they’re inside the computer,

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the people in the game,

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and they are put in a prison by these, with electronic, you know, it’s an electronic prison because that’s exactly what preventing access to a circuit is, inside the computer.

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So, the computer, there are these researchers where they use laser beams and they can take an apple and they can, like that.

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The computer pulls them into the video game land.

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So he’s in there and he’s alive in there.

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He’s running around.

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But everyone else that’s in there are the creations of his own mind or the creations of these of his two friends outside it’s getting complicated but and i wouldn’t even understand took me about a day to figure

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out actually my seven-year-old son had explained it to me but the point is it’s not really the

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video game that they’re talking about it’s the brain and that uh that the figures in our brains are created by our own programming or by somebody

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else that’s programmed our own game and our brain is like a series of enormous video games in which

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there’s a chancellor you know schmidt and there’s a big jagger and they were all running around inside the video games in our head. So the concept of

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the next kind of movie

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will be a show of people and they will winter their brains

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and oh see, the

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visualization of the computer video

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panoramas is the most beautiful thing you’ve ever seen.

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Because it’s made just the way the brain is made.

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And it’s very much like those of you who have taken very, very heavy doses of

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a Sunderland drug where everything is made of light,

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everything is made of lattice work.

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You can be sure that you see everything is glowing with that energy. That’s what the movie is like.

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But that’s the beginning. This is the first beginning. It’s a whole new kind of movie making, which is going to change our consciousness and raise our intelligence just as much as

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colored movies intelligence did over black and white and sounded over talkies over the

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silent movies and so forth.

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Now next I’d like to talk about, I talked about body intelligence and the key to body

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intelligence was that you become an artist of your own life.

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And I made the point that it takes a lot of work to do that.

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Then I’m going to be talking about brain-computer intelligence,

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in which you learn to use your brain the way you program a computer,

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which gives you a chance to reprogram or re-imprint.

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And now I’m going to me talk next about genetic intelligence,

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which is

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a tremendous step ahead.

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I want to give you practical examples

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of how genetic intelligence is

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operating right now.

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But before I do that, let’s stop and see if there are any

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questions or any comments.

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Anyone want to say anything?

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Is it clear?

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Thank you.

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I love that. You said Anyone want to say anything? Is it clear? I’m sorry? I don’t know if that’s…

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You said the reprogramming of our own EO computer,

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the first steps to learn it is getting practice with a technical computer.

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Right?

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With what?

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With a technical computer, video games and so on.

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Well, I didn’t say that it was a first.

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I said that I think that, yes,

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if you want to enjoy the next 20 years,

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you’ve got to learn something about computers, really.

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Or you might be,

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you’re going to be,

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yeah, a lot of fun is going to be happening around you.

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Okay, but there might be much more techniques

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you talked about

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yesterday that you want to tell

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us today how to

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reprogram

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our video computer.

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And

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without, okay, video games is

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one possibility, but yesterday

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you told us you want to talk about

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more possibilities how to reprogram

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our video computer. Yeah.

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I think what I will do for the next year is go every day to a mall where I can play video games and then I will write you how I have changed my personality with you.

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And I will do that every day.

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Well, no, I mean, I don’t do that every day.

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I will change. I will change. when I did every day. Well, no, I mean, I don’t want you to work every day.

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I’m ashamed.

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Of course, I’m having new impressions on what you said with the live magazine.

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Actually,

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we bought a game like Atari

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and for the first two weeks

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we played it a lot.

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We played it a lot for the first two weeks we played it a lot.

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We played it a lot for the first two weeks.

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Then after you get to know it, then it gets kind of boring,

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so I don’t want you to go every day for eight hours.

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It goes on until you get it.

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Until you get it, yeah, until you get it.

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Then I always go in a video parlor in Arcadia in America

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because I want to see.

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And I’ll spend it.

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And I’ll sit there and I’ll watch and I hear a seven-year-old kid

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with patterns and sequences

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and pattern changes.

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At least I want to see

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what’s involved in the game.

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But I don’t want to spend

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a lot of time there.

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But yes, I always go into a video parlor at least once a week just to see what the new games are. I don’t know if I told you this, but many of you are new anyway, so I’ll tell it again if you heard it before.

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The great mystery of Western civilization is Pac-Man. Pac-Man. Pac-Man has made over a billion dollars, maybe close to two billion dollars.

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They have a song called, an infray called Pac-Man Fever.

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You know, do they have it in Germany?

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It’s one of the top songs about going down to the arcade with a bed board in my pocket.

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Pac-Man Fever. All the children of seven, eight, nine, and ten sing this song.

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Do you know what Pac-Man is? Have you ever seen it?

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Oh, Pac-Man is a shield of all these little white dots,

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and there’s this little round thing with a mouth,

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and it goes and it eats all those dots,

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and it’s being chased by three others,

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and then you have to go out, and there’s a big energizer circle,

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and you’re one of them,

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then the police are chasing you you turn blue, and you can

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turn and you can eat them.

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But it only lasts for about 15 seconds, and then they turn, now the little white guts

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of the hub is the pills.

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And then you need to go to the end of the game, just eat all the pills before you get

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arrested three times by the narcotics office.

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I had to figure out why this game was so popular.

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Also,

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in Los Angeles

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there’s a big paper, the LA Times,

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which is very establishment,

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and they had an article one Sunday by a psychiatrist who not like Pac-Man.

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And

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seven, eight-year-old

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kids, whenever they’re coming out of that paper,

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they’re all reading how to play Pac-Man.

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So,

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no, I don’t want to make a big deal of it, but I just

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tune in so you

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know that

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I feel

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it’s part of being in the 20th century now to know.

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See, people, they mainly, anything that’s new, they don’t like.

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So they think something more of us can tear us bad.

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I think the intelligent person wants to know what it is.

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Why do they like Pac-Man?

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Why do they like these games?

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it is, why do they like Pac-Man, why do they like these games? Because…

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Is there any other…

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But you think that daydreaming is a very good way to get into contact

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with your brain possibilities? Visualization and…

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Daydreaming, as we call it. Sure.

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And, I mean, you can

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get some help

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to get in this state of daydreaming.

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But daydreaming

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sounds too fast. Maybe

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planned, directed visualization.

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Yeah.

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Because daydreaming is

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something that’s possible too.

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There are many schools

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which train people how to visualize

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and use their imagination

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in a very precise way.

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And even curing cancer.

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There are many schools in the United States

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that probably have it here too, where

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they visualize cancer in ways

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the body can fight against it.

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I was talking about which state of the aesthetic care time, which is the best time for reprinting or re-

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what do you say, the brain could be reinforced

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what state of the

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ecstatic

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movement, ecstatic curve

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during LSD session

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what is the

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optimal time for it

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is it at the beginning or at the end Yes, that’s a very interesting question. It’s a question about… During an LSD experience,

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everything is moving very fast and in many different directions and if your consciousness

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gets caught

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or if you focus your consciousness on anything that happens

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it kind of stops it

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and then

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the

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all the manuals

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and the devices

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don’t get caught, keep going

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keep going

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because

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you might

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look in your wife’s

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face

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and you look at her eye

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and suddenly her eye

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is getting bigger and bigger

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until she’s nothing except the whole world is her big eyes.

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Well, that’s not the girl you married, right?

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I don’t agree with you.

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So then you have to, alright, close your eyes and be like that. not the girl you married, right? I don’t agree with you.

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But then some people get frightened and in order to take

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white stuff.

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There may be people, early experienced people, they would start thinking about their

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heart.

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Many doctors would have to imagine.

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And they’d say, my heart is healthy.