Program Notes
Guest speakers: Robert Anton Wilson, Dr. John Lilly, Dr. Timothy Leary
“Creativity has a touch of the bizarre” –Robert Anton Wilson
“Since things are moving faster and faster, we cannot afford the amount of stupidity that we used to be able to tolerate.” –Robert Anton Wilson
“We need something to replace death as an intelligence increaser. Generally, the only way that intelligence could grow was to get rid of the people who haven’t taken any new imprints since adolescence, as Tim would say.” –Robert Anton Wilson
“The bizarre, the unthinkable is where creativity comes from.” –Robert Anton Wilson
“In that process [Ilya Prigogine’s theory of dissipative structures], we are dissipating, collapsing, out of all the structures we know, not into chaos, not into the collapse of civilization, but into a higher level of coherence.” –Robert Anton Wilson
“There seem to be more optimism about psychedelics. They seem to be treated now with more rationality, as I was hoping they would be back in the Sixties, but they couldn’t be then. We were too ignorant.” –Dr. John Lilly
“The dumb people in the Sunbelt have all gone to Washington and New York to seek their fortunes there, people like Jann Wenner of Rolling Stone. He’s just plain dumb. He’s got a track record not where everything he touches is turning wrong simply because he’s betting on the past.” –Timothy Leary
“The doomsday sayers, the people who are warning of and hoping for some sort of apocalyptic crisis, an earthquake, an end to everything. Now anyone who lays that trip on you, just look at them and smile and say, ‘Listen, the world isn’t coming to an end. You have come to an end of your vision. It’s you who feel that your end is at hand. The evolutionary picture is moving along beautifully.’ ” –Timothy Leary
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Transcript
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Greetings from cyberdelic space.
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This is Lorenzo, and I’m your host here in the psychedelic salon.
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And as you can see, I’ve kind of slipped into a permanent summer schedule here in the salon.
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Besides going on a long road trip and having a few rounds of houseguests,
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it’s been way too hot for me to get much done around here.
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But then I guess I’m getting soft in my old age,
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because compared to other places I’ve lived, it’s really not all that bad.
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And on top of that, I’ve spent way too much time watching John Graham’s live video feed from Burning Man.
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And it looks to me that our fellow salonners who are on the playa right now must certainly be having a great time,
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even though it may be a little hot and dusty right now.
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However, it’s cool enough here in the salon today for me to get this podcast out,
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and so I’d like to begin by thanking Vincent B., Guy D., and Bryce B. for their generous donations to the salon.
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And yes, Bryce, I caught your clever message, in case you’re wondering.
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So thank you for that, and thank you also, Vincent and Guy, for helping us to keep these podcasts coming your way.
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Well, I’m sorry if I left you hanging in my last podcast by promising to get the rest of that panel discussion out right away.
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Obviously, I’m letting my life get in the way of producing these podcasts once again.
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So, rather than ramble on, let’s get right into today’s program. Thank you. And so far we have heard from Frank Barron, Andrew Weil, Walter Houston Clark, and Paul Krasner.
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Now we’re going to hear from the one and only Robert Anton Wilson,
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who will be followed briefly by Dr. John Lilly.
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So let’s join them now.
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One of the interesting things about the placebo effect, which was discussed by Dr. Whale,
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is one of the interesting things about the placebo effect is a recent study showed that doctors are most likely to give people to placebo, give placebos to, you see, short-term memory loss,
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are most likely to give placebos to people who will not profit by them
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and least likely to give placebos to people who will profit by them.
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This study was done in a large hospital,
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and it turned out that there are two kinds of patients, basically.
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There are the ones who want to get well, and there are ones who want to stay sick a while longer
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because they’ve managed to avoid certain problems that they’d have to confront
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if they got the hell out of the hospital.
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And doctors give placebos to the ones who would rather stay sick,
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and they ignore the placebos just like they ignore any other type of therapy
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because it doesn’t fit into their game plan.
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The people who will respond best to placebos are the ones who want to get well.
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But doctors don’t give them placebos because doctors give placebos to people to punish them, it turns out.
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It’s the doctor’s way of saying, I’m smarter than you, schmuck.
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I know you’re faking it.
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So that’s why they give them placebos.
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So they never give placebos to the people who take advantage of them.
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Curtis said the difference between a beautiful
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woman and a pretty woman is that a beautiful woman has a touch of the bizarre.
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And that
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has to do with creativity. Creativity has a touch of the bizarre.
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Creativity has a touch of the bizarre. Creativity is the unusual combination. It’s what you don’t expect. Like roses are red, violets are blue. You think this
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will rhyme, but it ain’t gonna. That is a moderate feat of creativity by Steve Allen.
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All creativity basically takes that form, which is why Goethe saw that beauty had a quality
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of the bizarre. And yet when Goethe heard Beethoven’s Fifth Symphony, he said, this is merely
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stupendous. It was merely stupendous because the combinations were too unusual, too bizarre. It took
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50 years for Europe to begin to understand that. It’s taken about 60 years for most of the literary world
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to understand James Joyce’s Ulysses.
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At first, that was merely bizarre and grandiose.
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The interesting thing about intelligence increase
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is that it is part of an evolutionary process
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that can actually be seen on graphs.
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Count Krasivsky started making graphs of that sort back be seen on graphs. Count Korshivsky started making graphs
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of that sort back in the 20s. A psychologist named Bontrager at the University of Pennsylvania
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has hundreds of them. Bucky Fuller has been making graphs of this type since 1928.
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One of the most interesting ones is the one I call the jumping Jesus phenomenon.
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I wrote an article about this
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recently for a magazine called Futurific, and they wouldn’t print it because they said it might
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offend their Christian readers. And I thought that was kind of odd because I didn’t mean to
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be offensive. I just thought I’d give Jesus some kind of some of the fame that Ohm and
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Faraday, who had the Farad named after him,
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and Volta, who had the Volt named after him.
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And eventually we’re going to have a unit like the Leary.
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That’s bound to come.
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And I thought I’d do Jesus a favor by making him a unit.
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And I got this from Georges Andela,
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a French economist who did a study for the
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Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development,
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in which he tried to estimate the number of facts known each year since the beginning of recorded history.
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He didn’t try to measure wisdom because that’s a little more subtle.
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Facts you can count and estimate using modern information theory and various statistical devices.
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You can get a pretty good approximation.
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Using modern information theory and various statistical devices, you can get a pretty good approximation.
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He put the number of facts each year on a graph to see what the shape of the graph was like.
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And, of course, the son of a bitch was like a skyrocket.
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He took, for instance, the number of known facts at the time of the birth of Christ as one unit to keep the graph simple. And then he looked how long it took for this to double to get twice as many facts.
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And so I call the beginning of his graph one Jesus, since it dates from 1 AD, the alleged
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birth of the late Redeemer.
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Actually, he was born in 4 BC, but that’s a complicated historical digression we needn’t
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go into if we didn’t have chromosome damage.
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It took until 1500 to get two Jesus, for the total number of facts to double.
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By 1500, we had two Jesus in the human larder.
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And by 1500, we had the Renaissance going full blast.
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The next doubling occurred by 1750, which was only 250
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years. It took 1,500 years to go from one to two units, two Jesus, and 250 years to go from two
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Jesus to four Jesus. We wound up with eight Jesus in 1900, which was only 150 years. Now,
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in mechanical engineering, which I once started out to get involved in
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before I decided I would rather make a living without working
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and became a writer.
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Stand to your right.
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Don’t rest. Don’t rest.
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You’re resting it down here.
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Okay.
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Why don’t you stand up?
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Okay.
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Why don’t you stand up?
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Okay.
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Roses are red, ink is black.
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Do me a favor, sit on a tack.
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That’s a variation on the beginning of this.
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We were up to 1750, I believe. The next doubling got us up to 8 Jesus, and that was by 1900.
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The next doubling got us up to 16 jesus by 1950 the next doubling got
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us up to 32 jesus by 1960 you notice the intervals are getting shorter and the doubling is moving
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faster by 1960 we had the world round youth revolution beginning which everybody’s been
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trying to put a cap on ever since because nobody knows where it’s leading. By 1967, we had the next doubling to 32 Jesus, and by 1973, we had the next doubling
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to 64 Jesus, at which point Georges Andela completed his study. Since 1973, I’ll do my best.
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Since 1973, I haven’t found any statistics of this sort,
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but there can be little doubt that the doubling is continuing.
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In mechanical engineering, you rate a machine in revolutions per second.
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If you’re looking at human history over a long geological span,
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you’d have to start out rating it in revolutions per millennium.
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And you might say it was going along at a quarter of a revolution per millennium for quite a long time until historical times began, and then it was going in one revolution per millennium.
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By the time we reach 1500 and this jumping Jesus phenomenon is really moving along, you can start measuring human affairs in revolutions per century.
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In the 20th century, since the total number of known scientific facts doubled between 1900 and 1950,
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we can obviously measure it in revolutions per century,
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and so we reach two revolutions per century by 1950.
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But it’s been doubling faster since then, so now we’re going to have to measure it in
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revolutions per decade.
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I think Tim, in his mystical way, suggests that life extension research is arriving at
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the same time as space migration because the DNA knows that with life extension we’re going
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to have to get the hell off one planet. I think mind-altering drugs of all sorts, not just psychedelics, but every
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dimension of mind change drug, tranquilizers, anti-psychotic drugs, energizers, the whole
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field that has been opening up since the 60s and is opening up faster all the time,
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is an evolutionary necessity that had to appear at this point.
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Since things are moving faster and faster, we cannot afford the amount of stupidity that we used to be able to tolerate.
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The phenomenon that Tim was talking about, that Kuhn’s book is about the structure of
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scientific revolutions, basically what it comes down to is that with few exceptions,
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few strange mutants, older scientists never accept a new paradigm.
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The way the new paradigm gets accepted is the old ones die off,
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and the younger scientists get into the more important positions at the universities,
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and then the new paradigm is gradually accepted.
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Now, with longevity coming along, that’s not going to be happening anymore.
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As a matter of fact, Rosenfeld in his book, Pro-Longevity,
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says whenever he talks
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about longevity
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in scientific groups,
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there’s always somebody
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who says,
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my God,
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if the head of the department
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never dies,
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progress will come to an end.
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So we need something
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to replace death
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as an intelligence increaser.
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Generally,
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the only way
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that intelligence could grow
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is to get rid of
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the people who haven’t taken any new imprints since adolescence, as Tim would say. We need
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ways for people to change their brains more rapidly, and we’re suddenly getting this astonishing
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technology is appearing all around us, which is not just chemical, but mechanical too, biofeedback and all sorts of ancient shamanic techniques
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are being rediscovered.
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There are yoga classes everywhere you go.
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We are learning how to take control of our brains and how to deal with the fact that
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we’re living with more and more rapid change all the time.
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Because, for instance, to get back to longevity, in 1750 when human knowledge had just gone through a doubling
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in a period of 250 years
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everything was shaking loose in Europe
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and so we find, I’m researching that period right now
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for a novel I’m working on
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we find that all sorts of radical ideas were popping up everywhere
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that had never been thought of before
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and if you start examining them you find what we think of as the great discoveries
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of the 19th century
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were already being suggested,
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such as evolution, the Pearson Buffon’s book on natural science.
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And you actually find 200 years before Dr. Paul Siegel,
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who has devoted 20 years to longevity research
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and is in the audience here somewhere, I think,
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200 years before Dr. Siegel, 200 years
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before Alan Harrington, who first wrote a book on the subject, we find in the 1770s, the
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mathematician Condorcet in France was saying science will eventually produce physical immortality.
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And we find Benjamin Franklin saying the same thing in this country. That was because the
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acceleration was beginning to unleash a lot of really wild,
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creative thought, the bizarre type of beauty. I always think of thought in terms of bizarre
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beauty, in terms of Goethe’s metaphor. This whole process has an interesting vector on it,
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This whole process has an interesting vector on it, considered geographically.
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It has been moving steadily westward and mildly northward throughout history.
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The first Bronze Age implements are found around Thailand and Cambodia,
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which shows that the Bronze Age began in the Far East, not in the Middle East, as we always used to think.
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It spread upward to China and then into India.
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Then it hit the Middle East, where we first began to find the records of what we consider civilization.
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Then it kept moving.
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And if you study the records of this type of migration, you find the same general phenomenon. What they had in Greece in the 4th century B.C. is what they had in Rome in the 1st century A.D.
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It’s what they had in Italy in 1500 AD
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when the jumping Jesus thing had doubled.
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It’s what they had in England in 1750
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when the jumping Jesus thing had quadrupled
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and moved westward again and north.
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It’s what we had in the east coast of this country,
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New York and Boston,
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between 1800 and 1900
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when the whole thing had moved there.
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And it’s what we’ve got in California now.
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The formula is granola, fruits, nuts, and flakes.
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That’s what you’ll find in Athens, 4th century B.C.
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It’s what you’ll find in Renaissance Italy.
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It’s what you’ll find in the East Coast around 1900.
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That’s what we’ve got here now.
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It’s the people who are…
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Yeah, I’m very careful about not saying which of the groups I belong to.
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That’s for the audience to decide.
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The bizarre, the unthinkable is where creativity comes from.
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Like my favorite chess player, Iyekin, one of his games he checkmates with a pawn
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everybody, especially his opponent
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was looking, what can he do with the queen
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what can he do with those knights
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what kind of evil scheme lies behind that hidden bishop
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and the son of a bitch comes in with a pawn
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and checkmates
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nobody could think of a thing like that but Iyekin
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Beethoven goes from the
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third movement to the fourth movement
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and the fifth symphony without the usual pause, which nobody expected.
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And part of the reason Goethe said it’s merely grandiose is because it didn’t sound like anything he ever heard before, but it works.
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A great poem is always a profound shock to the nervous system, and the immediate reaction is, what kind of gibberish is this?
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is what kind of gibberish is this?
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If you were to walk through a collection of artworks,
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paintings, chamber quartets playing,
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poets declaiming their works,
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sculptors exhibiting,
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scientists talking about their latest theories,
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philosophers expounding on their latest meditations,
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and if it all made sense to you, you can be absolutely sure
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they were all third-rate schmucks.
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But if you walked into a place
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and everybody seemed nuts to you,
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like Paris in the 1920s
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with Joyce and Pound and Gertrude Stein
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and Picasso and Brancusi and so on,
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they all seemed nuts
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and seemed to be doing something
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that made no sense.
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Creativity was going on
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because creativity is the unusual combination, and the
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unusual combination is negative entropy, and that is not a metaphor. Claude Shannon demonstrated that
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in a book called The Mathematical Theory of Communication in 1948, and it’s a crying shame
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that most social scientists don’t know enough mathematics to understand it yet. But the unusual
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combination produces a higher level of coherence, and that’s what
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information is. Bucky Fuller says human beings are local problem solvers. The reason we are
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local problem solvers is because we can make unusual combinations, which creates a higher
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level of coherence. And that’s why Prigogine is right. That’s why Prigogine got the Nobel
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Prize for his work on dissipative structures.
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And one of his discoveries is the more complex a structure is, the more unstable it is,
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the more it’s got this bizarre beauty I’ve been discussing, like an ant hive, a termite hill, a human city.
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And the more complex it is, the more the structure is unstable and likely to dissipate.
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Only what Prigogine discovered is contrary to the second law of thermodynamics,
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which only applies to closed systems.
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And this kind of evolving open system, it is going to dissipate into a higher level of coherence.
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And the jumping Jesus phenomenon, having brought us to the point where knowledge has doubled
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several times since 1960 and is in the process of doubling again and will have completed doubling probably in the next year
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and doubled two times before we reach 1990,
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in that process we are dissipating, collapsing out of all the structures we know,
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not into chaos, not into the collapse of civilization, but into a higher level of coherence.
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And that’s what my acid trips have taught me with a little help from mathematics.
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Well, I thought you were all magnificent.
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And Frank Barron.
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There are literally dozens and dozens of people in this room who should and will be up here, I hope, before we leave.
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I’d like to at this moment pay a word of tribute to two men who had a tremendous effect on my life when they came to Harvard University in, I think, 1960.
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And I was talking about Harvard Square.
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That was my identity picture at the time.
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Two men who breathed into Harvard and really fired us up and taught us much about life and poetry and courage.
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I’m talking about Peter Orlowski and Alan Ginsberg.
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Alan’s not here today, but Peter is here. I’d like to recognize. Thank you, Peter. And send a message to Alan
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Ginsberg. True Peter. We love you, Alan. One of the, I think, fair to say that probably the mind which has most influence on my own thinking,
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I’m not sure that’s a tribute, or the person who’s contributed most to my delinquency intellectually,
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I think is also in the room.
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He’s certainly, without any question, one of the great pioneer scientists of this time or any time,
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one of the most courageous explorers
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in places where no one had ever been before,
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sending back signals which have changed all of us in this room.
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John Lilly, where are you?
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John Lilly!
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John Lilly!
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Come up, John!
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John, please come up! Thank you.
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Gee, how do you answer that one?
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Well, it sure is great to be back again after two years.
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I was here in the LSD in the future two years ago and heard very similar thoughts.
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There seems to have been a little progress since then.
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There seems to be more a little progress since then. There
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seems to be more optimism about psychedelics. They seem to be treated now with more rationality
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as I was hoping they would be back in the 60s, but they couldn’t be then. We were too
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ignorant. I’ve managed to maintain a certain degree of rationality in the 60s,
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but I could only do it by staying away from Tim,
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Metzner,
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and Alpert.
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So I hung out in the Virgin Islands in an isolation tank
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with my sandos while they lapped it up
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in Massachusetts and Millbrook. So having that degree of distance and maintaining it
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and being frightened of coming back into the United States under any conditions which had any publicity to them,
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I managed to write a book, get it published surreptitiously and distribute it through the Whole Earth Catalog
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called Programming and Metaprogramming in the Human Biocomputer.
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Yay!
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and metaprogramming in the human biocomputer.
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I followed that up in 1972.
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That was written in 1967, actually.
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Published again in 72.
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And then in 72, the Center of the Cyclone was published.
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And we got kind of launched.
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It was reviewed in the New York Times book review and said it was some sort of a cult book
00:22:49 ►
I never knew anything about the cult
00:22:53 ►
or the occult having to do with all this
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but apparently the book is still around
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Bantam is still publishing it
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and Bantam is also coming out this summer
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with The Scientist
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which is the follow-up of the other two books
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and I recommend them highly
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and hope that you can read them
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under all sorts of conditions
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including in an isolation tank
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thank you Tony is not with us in physical carnality, but she’s with us in spirit.
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We send a message through John to Tony.
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Right?
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Right.
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Who’s in charge of timing and placing how are we doing
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yeah
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is that
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yeah
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shall we cut it here
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I feel that
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it’s appropriately controversial and mischievous to say that the asset of the 1980s are going to be the computers.
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And the computer heads are going to break a lot of chromosomes.
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We’re going to break a lot of chromosomes.
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I’m sure we have a lot of totally brain-electrified computer people in this room.
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I know we have Francis Jeffrey.
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Francis, where are you?
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Would you come up for a second and say some outrageous things?
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Hi. Something outrageous is that the DNA of which we have several trillion copies in every cell in our body
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has an information content which is way beyond any man-made computer at the present time.
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But essentially, the DNA is a computer, and it’s an enormous computer tape.
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It’s both a memory, a huge tape with information on it,
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and a computer for working on itself.
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And the DNA has now brought us to the point where it’s our job to begin participating actively
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in its future evolution,
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which is the same as our future evolution.
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Thank you. which is the same as our future evolution.
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I have no more outrageous things to say.
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He does, really, but we’ll let him go.
00:25:40 ►
Thank you, Francis. Thank you, Francis.
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Tell us about ketamine. about ketamine read The Scientist
00:25:54 ►
by one of our great scientists
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John Lilly
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that’s
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I wouldn’t say the final word
00:25:59 ►
but it’s the ultimate word at word. Yes. Where is Ram Dass? Well, I’m glad to report that about two weeks ago at
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midnight, my wife Barbara and I were in bed. The telephone rang and this voice, mellow
00:26:24 ►
voice said said this is
00:26:25 ►
Richard Alpert
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I’m in town
00:26:27 ►
I’d like to come over
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so Richard Alpert
00:26:29 ►
came over
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the following day
00:26:30 ►
at noon
00:26:31 ►
and he hung around
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for about eight hours
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in our patio
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and
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he’s just
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the greatest company
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there is around
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if you
00:26:42 ►
ever have a chance
00:26:43 ►
to spend a day or a week or a month with Baba Ram Dass,
00:26:48 ►
he calls himself both Baba Ram Dass and Richard Alpert.
00:26:50 ►
The wonderful thing about Richard Dass or Baba Alpert is he’s changing.
00:26:57 ►
I don’t think there’s…
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I said John Lilly is one of the most courageous scientists of all time.
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Richard is not basically a scientist.
00:27:04 ►
He’s a philosopher and a stand-up philosopher, comic.
00:27:08 ►
Yes, right.
00:27:10 ►
Whatever wonderful title we want to give him,
00:27:12 ►
there are very few people in history that have been able to put themselves right out there,
00:27:17 ►
absorb from anyone that has something to teach,
00:27:21 ►
to change his life, to keep evolving, mutating, growing.
00:27:27 ►
My goodness, he’s just begun this process.
00:27:31 ►
Where he’ll go in the next 20 or 30 or 50 years is no telling, but he’s lively than
00:27:36 ►
ever.
00:27:37 ►
He’s changing rapidly.
00:27:39 ►
He’s laughing all the time.
00:27:41 ►
He’s moving around the world like some geosynchronous satellite.
00:27:45 ►
He’s likely to pop up any place.
00:27:48 ►
He’s really got it down.
00:27:49 ►
You say,
00:27:50 ►
where do you live, Richard?
00:27:51 ►
He said,
00:27:52 ►
here and now.
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You don’t have to pay rent on that.
00:27:59 ►
And the landlord’s not going to evict you.
00:28:03 ►
Yeah, he’s doing great
00:28:04 ►
and we had a wonderful time. He’s got a new
00:28:09 ►
guru. One of them, as you know, one of Richard’s wonderful techniques is to simply give himself
00:28:15 ►
over for as long as it’s mutually beneficial to anyone that he respects and has something to tell him.
00:28:27 ►
And he’s really, you know,
00:28:29 ►
what a wonderful track record he’s got at that.
00:28:34 ►
Anyway, his guru, Neem Karoli Baba,
00:28:37 ►
died several years ago.
00:28:41 ►
And then he had a tantric guru in New York whom he said really taught him a lot.
00:28:45 ►
And… a contract guru in New York, whom he said really taught him a lot. And he’s now got a guru,
00:28:50 ►
or the guru is not the right word,
00:28:52 ►
a telephone connection, you know,
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to someone named Emmanuel.
00:28:58 ►
Emmanuel, you contact,
00:29:00 ►
it’s a spirit that passes on signals
00:29:03 ►
through a housewife in the Bronx.
00:29:07 ►
Isn’t that fantastic?
00:29:09 ►
Because Richard never has to take responsibility for anything he says,
00:29:12 ►
which is a very, very graceful and dignified thing to do.
00:29:21 ►
Anyway, he’s doing great.
00:29:23 ►
We had a wonderful time, and the next time you see him
00:29:25 ►
he’ll delight you as well
00:29:26 ►
Michael Horowitz
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would you stand up Michael
00:29:30 ►
there’s one of the great
00:29:34 ►
figures of our times
00:29:36 ►
for those of you
00:29:38 ►
come up for a minute
00:29:39 ►
and say a few words
00:29:39 ►
would you
00:29:39 ►
yeah
00:29:40 ►
for those of you
00:29:41 ►
who don’t know
00:29:41 ►
who Michael is
00:29:42 ►
he is
00:29:44 ►
along with Michael Aldrich, the founder and the leading light with the Fitzhugh Memorial Ludlow Library,
00:29:52 ►
which is the world’s greatest collection of curiosities, artifacts, rare books, and popular books on dope.
00:30:01 ►
He’s one of the great archivists of our time he’s one of the great writers of our time
00:30:05 ►
tell us all about it
00:30:06 ►
one of the things
00:30:06 ►
about having a dope library
00:30:08 ►
is you do a lot
00:30:09 ►
of time traveling
00:30:10 ►
you do a lot of time traveling
00:30:14 ►
when you’re around books
00:30:16 ►
especially books that
00:30:17 ►
describe altered states
00:30:19 ►
listen to it coming
00:30:22 ►
so you’ve got to have it
00:30:23 ►
blasting in your ear
00:30:24 ►
from there
00:30:24 ►
and you’ve got to have your face right like that from there, and you’ve got to have its face
00:30:25 ►
right like that. Get your ear
00:30:27 ►
attached to that so you know when you’re loud enough.
00:30:30 ►
All right.
00:30:33 ►
Rock and roll.
00:30:37 ►
Oh, anyway,
00:30:38 ►
for about 11 years now,
00:30:39 ►
myself and Michael Aldrich, Robert
00:30:41 ►
Barkin, colleagues and friends
00:30:43 ►
have donated and built this fantastic library.
00:30:46 ►
And we’ve been time traveling in it by ourselves mostly, and a few people know about it.
00:30:51 ►
And we’d like to make this magic carpet ride available into the consciousness of Fitzhugh Ludlow and Charles Baudelaire and who, you know, just Eve and Sappho and, you know, just every,
00:31:07 ►
the mind expanders of every time in history are available.
00:31:13 ►
And through the writings of, you know, in the books we’ve gotten together.
00:31:19 ►
And these books you can’t find really.
00:31:21 ►
Or if you can, you know, you have to kind of read between the lines. And
00:31:27 ►
so, actually, this is, I mean, I think this could be 1842. I think this could be the Hashtag
00:31:32 ►
Club in Paris or, you know, the Humphrey Davies Nitrous Oxide Institute, which was just like
00:31:38 ►
Harvard and the Psychedelic Research Project in 1962 was, you know was previewed in 1800 in Bristol, England,
00:31:47 ►
when the leading writers, artists, intellectuals came to try laughing gas.
00:31:52 ►
This 20-year-old scientist had just discovered the mental effects of.
00:31:56 ►
And these are some of the lights.
00:31:58 ►
And we also reprint and republish some of these books.
00:32:03 ►
And sometimes people buy them
00:32:06 ►
and they go into second printing or something like that
00:32:08 ►
right now Ludlow Library
00:32:11 ►
is looking for a home
00:32:14 ►
it’s a big library
00:32:16 ►
and it needs a certain amount of security and care and so on
00:32:20 ►
but there’s a flyer
00:32:22 ►
a newsletter which you just produced that tells the story of the Ludlow Library.
00:32:28 ►
I mean, we started in 1970, and so we’ve lasted about a decade, and the library’s been growing.
00:32:36 ►
And so we would like to have it in a place where it could be available to more people
00:32:41 ►
who want to research and read about other people’s trips throughout history.
00:32:45 ►
And it’s incredible how many trips have been reported by people you wouldn’t believe.
00:32:52 ►
And, well, you know.
00:32:55 ►
So, anyway, pick up the flyer and think about it.
00:32:59 ►
And thanks, Tim, for giving me a chance to talk about the Lella Library.
00:33:07 ►
Thank you, Michael. thanks Tim for giving me a chance to talk about the Lella Library thank you Michael there is in the room another great hero of our times
00:33:13 ►
we’ve got an all-star caster today
00:33:17 ►
and so many that aren’t here
00:33:19 ►
they’re with us in spirit
00:33:20 ►
Alan Watts
00:33:21 ►
Aldous Huxley, Humphrey Osmond, and all the great musicians and poets and writers.
00:33:35 ►
You know, we’ve all been worried about a great musical phenomena of the 60s that has been kind of falling apart recently.
00:33:47 ►
Well, there’s some hope that we can get Bob Dylan together again.
00:33:55 ►
There is an all-star in the room, I hope.
00:34:01 ►
He first came to the attention of our intelligence agency
00:34:03 ►
as an Annapolis graduate
00:34:05 ►
and as a naval officer.
00:34:07 ►
And we felt, well, anyone that’s getting high altitude in the Navy could be of use to us.
00:34:12 ►
He’s been one of our great psychedelic, philosophic, Gnostic poets for the last 15 years.
00:34:19 ►
Walt Snyder, where are you?
00:34:21 ►
Are you here, Walter?
00:34:23 ►
Walt, come on up, huh?
00:34:28 ►
He has just finished a book and is working on another.
00:34:32 ►
Maybe he’ll say something about that.
00:34:33 ►
Anything else you want to talk about?
00:34:35 ►
Well, thank you, Tim.
00:34:36 ►
I’ve written a book on sacred mountains, and I’m presently working on ancient Egypt.
00:34:41 ►
Is he coming through?
00:34:42 ►
No.
00:34:43 ►
No.
00:34:44 ►
You’ve got to have that
00:34:45 ►
blasting in your ear.
00:34:47 ►
The whistle.
00:34:48 ►
No, no, no.
00:34:49 ►
I didn’t mean that.
00:34:49 ►
The sound.
00:34:50 ►
The sound.
00:34:51 ►
You’re a rock and roll star.
00:34:52 ►
You’ve got to feel it.
00:34:53 ►
Come on from there.
00:34:54 ►
And you’re going to vibrate.
00:34:55 ►
You will vibrate too.
00:34:57 ►
Let’s hear it for ancient Egypt.
00:35:00 ►
Now what I’ve been doing
00:35:01 ►
with ancient Egypt essentially
00:35:02 ►
is a study of pre-dynastic Egypt going up through the Pyramid Age.
00:35:07 ►
And the oldest books in the world are, in fact, the pyramid texts, which were written in the engraved in the lower walls of the last pyramids built.
00:35:16 ►
And in these, the latest Egyptologists of the past hundred years, all of whom are, excuse me, well, they’re very much taken up with social Darwinism
00:35:26 ►
and 19th century ideas of what human consciousness is,
00:35:29 ►
but the Egyptians themselves never had this problem.
00:35:31 ►
And in the pyramid texts, they make pretty clear that what they’re talking about
00:35:37 ►
is the transmission of human consciousness throughout the galaxy,
00:35:41 ►
much what certainly you’ve been writing about, and what others have, I think, done also. The pyramids themselves, however, are primarily
00:35:51 ►
lineal descendants of sacred mountains, which go back even into prehistoric times, and yet
00:35:57 ►
at that time human consciousness was by no means prehistoric. That’s about all I have
00:36:02 ►
to say.
00:36:05 ►
Give us the name of your book about
00:36:07 ►
Sky Cloud Mountain?
00:36:11 ►
It’s a book called Sky Cloud Mountain, which is about
00:36:17 ►
a ranch in Palm Springs where many of us hung out for
00:36:21 ►
many years during our guerrilla period and look for it in the future.
00:36:25 ►
Well, what more is there to say?
00:36:26 ►
We could go on forever, but I think the appropriate moment has come
00:36:29 ►
for me to thank Robert Anton Wilson and Paul and Walter and Andrew and Frank
00:36:38 ►
and John Lilly and everyone else and all of you.
00:36:42 ►
We’re getting stronger.
00:36:43 ►
We’re going to get moving again. The time has come.
00:36:46 ►
We’ve been laid back. We’ve been
00:36:48 ►
cocooning. It was good to do that.
00:36:50 ►
We had to kind of cool out a little bit.
00:36:52 ►
Let the smoke die down
00:36:54 ►
a little bit. In the next
00:36:56 ►
ten years, we’re going to get things moving
00:36:58 ►
faster and higher than ever before.
00:36:59 ►
We’re going to make the 60s look like a Girl Scout tea party.
00:37:02 ►
Let’s go!
00:37:02 ►
We’re going to make the 60s look like a Girl Scout tea party.
00:37:03 ►
Let’s go!
00:37:12 ►
Well, the good Dr. Leary sure was charged up at the end of that conference, wasn’t he?
00:37:16 ►
Unfortunately, the 90s didn’t turn out as radical as he hoped.
00:37:20 ►
But unless I miss my guess, things are finally getting to the point we hoped we’d be reaching over 20 years ago.
00:37:24 ►
I guess we’re just a little
00:37:25 ►
slow. And as you now know, the second tape in this series wasn’t an hour long, like the first part
00:37:31 ►
that we heard in the last podcast. So I’ve decided to fill in with another short bit from the Leary
00:37:37 ►
Archive that may fit in quite well here. The tape was labeled Alaron, that’s A-L-A-R-O-N, Alaron CTR, so I guess it’s the Alaron Center, on August 7, 1982.
00:37:51 ►
But what caught my attention with the little note that was attached to it is that it’s a short segment of Timothy talking about Dr. John Lilly.
00:38:00 ►
Now my only word of caution on listening to this would be to be extremely cautious about what he says about ketamine.
00:38:06 ►
On many occasions I’ve heard Ann and Sasha Shulgin warn about the possibility of getting habituated to it,
00:38:13 ►
although I personally have to admit that after having experienced it a few times,
00:38:17 ►
I never had an urge to even try it again,
00:38:20 ►
mainly because I wasn’t learning anything new each time I used it after the first time.
00:38:25 ►
But I have several friends who have really gone off the deep end on it a few times, so
00:38:30 ►
for what it’s worth, I am definitely not advocating the use of ketamine.
00:38:36 ►
And with that little proviso, let’s now hear what Dr. Leary had to say about Dr. Lilly
00:38:41 ►
on the 7th of August in 1982.
00:38:47 ►
And by the way, where were you on that day?
00:39:00 ►
We’ve talked off and on about this meta-biological level, or out of the body level, and I was having a discussion with Francis Jeffrey at lunch about John Lilly
00:39:06 ►
who figures here. See John Lilly by the way is one of the first scientists to use LSD.
00:39:15 ►
He’s the first scientist that I know of to really come out with the notion of the brain
00:39:19 ►
as a biocomputer. So at circuit six. He’s also at circuit 7 more than any scientist
00:39:25 ►
perhaps whoever lived
00:39:26 ►
has stressed
00:39:27 ►
interspecies communication
00:39:28 ►
because that’s genetic
00:39:29 ►
you know
00:39:29 ►
and he’s trying to talk
00:39:31 ►
to the dolphins
00:39:31 ►
and he’s saying
00:39:32 ►
listen to the whales
00:39:33 ►
now that’s straight out
00:39:34 ►
DNA talk
00:39:34 ►
because DNA wants that
00:39:36 ►
so he’s taking a position
00:39:37 ►
which is above the human
00:39:38 ►
you know position
00:39:39 ►
he’s up there
00:39:40 ►
and he’s saying
00:39:40 ►
well humans should meet
00:39:41 ►
Mr. Dolphin
00:39:42 ►
you know
00:39:42 ►
he’s had encouraged
00:39:43 ►
love affairs
00:39:44 ►
and sexual affairs between dolphins and human beings.
00:39:47 ►
I mean, that is a DNA point of view as opposed to species chauvinism.
00:39:52 ►
And now, John Lilly turns out he’s ahead of us when we get to these out-of-the-body experiences
00:39:59 ►
with ketamine is definitely a drug that is beyond life.
00:40:02 ►
When you take ketamine, and I’m not advocating ketamine.
00:40:05 ►
It’s a very complicated, philosophic, and it’s a death experience.
00:40:10 ►
Now, if you’re afraid of death, that’s terrible.
00:40:12 ►
But it’s a non-terminal death experience.
00:40:16 ►
And that’s the concept.
00:40:18 ►
Matter of fact, death is a wonderful thing as long as you, you know, go overboard on it.
00:40:22 ►
Right.
00:40:24 ►
When you take
00:40:25 ►
ketamine you park your body and the one other thing about ketamine it’s the best
00:40:28 ►
anesthetic and you talk to any vet or talk to any anesthesiologist you’ll tell
00:40:32 ►
you my god it’s the ideal anesthetic because the body’s just parked there the
00:40:36 ►
heart’s beating and the respiration after where you know with heroin or
00:40:38 ►
barbiturates you have to worry about you know the heart and the lungs and all
00:40:42 ►
that ketamine it is just chugs along and idling and you know, the heart and the lungs and all that. Get them into this, just chugs along and idling and, you know, while you’re gone.
00:40:49 ►
And cut it up.
00:40:50 ►
You don’t care.
00:40:50 ►
I mean, you’re off in the video arcade
00:40:54 ►
while they’re banging out the fenders of your car,
00:40:57 ►
you know, and cutting you up.
00:40:58 ►
It doesn’t even belong to me.
00:41:00 ►
It was a nice car when it lasted.
00:41:02 ►
But, so we’re talking about how…
00:41:07 ►
What does Lily do?
00:41:12 ►
Because Lily…
00:41:13 ►
See, Lily’s getting farther and farther removed
00:41:16 ►
from life and from human communication.
00:41:22 ►
And the reason for that,
00:41:23 ►
I think this is a speculation,
00:41:27 ►
but he’s imprinting his own
00:41:29 ►
meta-biological
00:41:31 ►
experiences.
00:41:33 ►
He says in his books,
00:41:34 ►
he says in The Scientist,
00:41:35 ►
and he says in his new book
00:41:36 ►
he’s got coming out called
00:41:37 ►
From Here to Alternity,
00:41:38 ►
you know,
00:41:38 ►
it’s not addiction.
00:41:40 ►
I don’t take this drug
00:41:41 ►
over and over again
00:41:41 ►
because, you know,
00:41:42 ►
I have to have it
00:41:43 ►
or I’ll bite my,
00:41:44 ►
you know,
00:41:44 ►
I’ll rob little old ladies to get it.
00:41:46 ►
It’s simply that he’s imprinted, it’s simply more interesting at these higher levels.
00:41:52 ►
And he’s willing to come down as long as we can make it interesting enough for him here, you know.
00:41:59 ►
But if he were here today, he’d be, he’d go.
00:42:02 ►
There’s a wonderful, we had a wonderful experience at Esalen.
00:42:06 ►
I was giving a seminar there.
00:42:07 ►
And John Lilly came into the, my seminar the first night I was there.
00:42:12 ►
And was, he loaded.
00:42:15 ►
He sat down.
00:42:17 ►
And he started talking about Ketavan and talking about this book.
00:42:20 ►
And for, was it about an hour and a half?
00:42:22 ►
He talked, he was totally stoned out in Ketavan.
00:42:24 ►
He talked absolutely with the greatest clarity and the greatest precision that was the
00:42:29 ►
time he came out of this line about shoot up or shut up and then Francis felt that he was
00:42:37 ►
stimulated enough by this room full of quite intelligent people who were interested in what
00:42:43 ►
he had to say that he was able to do this and so forth.
00:42:48 ►
But the problem, in a sense, if you want to call it a problem, with Willie or any of these adventurers is that you start imprinting and re-imprinting this new reality,
00:42:58 ►
and it gets to be more interesting than coming down here to playing the game of, you know,
00:43:02 ►
Sausalito and Highway 101 and, you know, getting the act together for tomorrow.
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So, well, that’s, we’ve zapped through 24 stages,
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100 billion neurons becoming microcomputers.
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We’ve had a wonderful doom-boom confrontation.
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I thank you for that, because
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we had to face that issue. And we have married East and West. We’ve married Richard Alpert
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and Baba Ram Dass. We’ve appointed John Lilly, the hero of our time. I’ve had a wonderful
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time today. I really thank you for coming, and it’s been a very enjoyable day. We’ll meet again.
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Well, I hope you enjoyed that
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little side trip with me and
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to continue along a little further on
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our historical journey of the last century,
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I’m going to play a short
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but kind of fascinating
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little clip that came from another
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tape that is labeled Joyful Wisdom Program.
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And it’s from a very old radio show that was hosted by Gabriel Wisdom, who I think is probably
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the same guy who’s now the money manager guru on National Propaganda Radio.
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But before he took his turn to the right, he was interviewing people like Commander Cody, Dizzy Gillespie, and of course, our old friend, Dr. Timothy Leary.
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Now, this short talk by Timothy doesn’t really bring us anything new other than his opinion on Rolling Stone moving east.
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But at the end of it, Gabriel Wisdom plays a song by a German band with Timothy Leary singing vocals.
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And I don’t think there are many recordings of Dr. Leary singing.
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At least, I’ve never heard another one.
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And so I thought maybe we should preserve it here.
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And as to the quality of the song,
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well, I’ll leave that up to you to decide when you hear it in just a few minutes. And now here’s Timothy Leary. Well, Gabriel, it’s a pleasure to return with my quarterly
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report. In the last three months, I’ve been acting as an intelligence agent,
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sorting out all the information, attempting to get all the maps I can
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of what’s happening and what’s going to happen.
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And in my role as intelligence agent,
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I’m going to bring my employers, that is the radio audience, up to date.
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The first thing that’s happening is a continuation of the era of good feeling.
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The country is definitely feeling well.
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In particular, the Sun Belt, that is the southwest of this country,
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is feeling better and better as more and more intelligent americans are moving
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into the sunbelt that’s one of the most astonishing migrations in human history gabriel
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in the last 15 years without any bloodshed or even any visible notice there’s been a tremendous
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brain drain the smartest people in the northeast have left and come down to the
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south and the southwest
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particularly California, Arizona
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and the dumb people in the Sun Belt
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have all gone to Washington, New York
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to seek their fortunes there
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people like Jan Wenner of Rolling Stone
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you know, he’s just plain dumb
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he’s got a track record now
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everything he touches is turning wrong simply because he’s just plain dumb. He’s got a track record now that everything he touches is turning wrong
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simply because he’s betting on the past.
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He backed Bella Abzug’s run for mayor of New York.
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He backed Bob Dylan’s new movie, Bomb After Bomb,
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because Jan Wenner is betting on the past.
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And he’s moved Rolling Stone magazine headquarters to New York
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simply because he’s working exactly in the wrong
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direction.
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Now, there’s some people still going around crying doom, the doomsday sayers, the people
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who are warning of and hoping for some sort of apocalyptic crisis, an earthquake, an end to everything.
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Now, when anyone lays that trip on you, just look at them and smile and say,
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listen, the world is coming to an end.
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You’ve come to an end of your vision.
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It’s you who feel that your end is at hand.
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But the evolutionary picture is moving along beautifully,
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and all you have to do is get that evolutionary perspective
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and see how the waves of increased intelligence are happening
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and surf them and you’ll be sharing in the really good things that are happening.
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Coming up on the Joyful Wisdom program,
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a rare German export album called Seven Up,
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featuring Timothy Leary with electronic music group Ashra Temple.
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Timothy sings on an upcoming track.
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Stay tuned.
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This rare recording, done in Germany in 1972.
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Timothy Leary on vocals with electronic group Ashra Temple.
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The album’s called Seven Up. I’m a right-hand lover
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Got a hinge on my thumb
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I’ll manipulate you, baby
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Cause that’s the way it’s done
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I’m so cool
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And cool And I know how.
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Well, I’m a right hand lover.
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And I can’t bring you to laugh.
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I’m always know the right way.
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Got money in my sack.
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Well, I’m so cool.
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I’ve been so cool.
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Cause I know how to know.
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I’m a one-way lover.
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I’m a one-way lover.
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I’m a one-way lover.
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I’m a one-way lover.
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I’m a one-way lover.
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I’m a one-way lover.
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I’m a one-way lover.
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I’m a one-way lover
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I can miniature your job
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Bring you vision
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Help you get your future
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I can go for miles and miles and miles and miles and miles
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I’m a dad
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I’m a man
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Cause I know how to love I can’t really set you apart
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And when I’m with your brother
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I can’t really get you along
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After a while I will say goodbye
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Cause I know how to love
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You are my Angela, my Angela.
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My Angela.
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My Angela.
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My Angela. My Angela. My Angela. My Angela. My Angela. My Angela. My Angela. My Angela. My Angela. My Angela. My Angela. My Angela. My Angela.. My Angela. I’m a body of facts that I’ve been for a long time. I’ve been a body of facts that I’ve been a body of facts that I’ve been a body of facts that I’ve been a body of facts that I’ve been a body of facts that I’ve been a body of facts that I’ve been a body of facts that I’ve been a body of facts that I’ve been a body of facts that have been predigested and interpreted for you,
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and the role of an original, innovative thinker under that system
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is not as easy as it once was.
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That would be my judgment.
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Would you believe that Norman Vincent Peale likes the song we’ve just heard?
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You’re listening to The Psychedelic Salon,
00:51:17 ►
where people are changing their lives one thought at a time.
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Well, what can I say after that, huh?
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I guess that because that soundbite came out of the Timothy Leary archive
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and is from a program that he obviously had a part in,
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then I guess I should accept the fact that it really was Tim Leary singing there.
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And who am I to doubt the wisdom of Gabriel, huh?
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Anyway, that was what passed for psychedelic entertainment in the 1970s.
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So even though we still don’t have world peace,
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at least our entertainment seems to have improved a bit since then,
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at least according to my taste.
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Now, while I would like to mention a few other things right now,
00:52:02 ►
I feel that I’d better just bring today’s program to an end.
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For some reason,
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it’s been difficult to get this podcast out to you.
00:52:10 ►
I had it all put together and edited a week ago,
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but then due to some commotion here in the salon,
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I accidentally deleted the file.
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Overwrote it, actually.
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And by the time I discovered my mistake,
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it was way too late to recover it
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so this podcast has already taken me
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almost twice as long to produce as normal
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and I better not press my luck with any more talk
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and just get back to daydreaming
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about pitching my tent in Kevin and Kadoma’s backyard tonight
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don’t worry Kevin I won’t be there
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but I will in my dreams
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so that’s going to do it for now,
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and I’ll close today’s podcast again by reminding you
00:52:49 ►
that this and all of the podcasts from the Psychedelic Salon
00:52:52 ►
are freely available for you to use in your own audio projects
00:52:56 ►
under the Creative Commons Attribution Non-Commercial ShareAlike 3.0 license.
00:53:01 ►
And if you have any questions about that,
00:53:03 ►
just click the Creative Commons link at the bottom
00:53:05 ►
of the Psychedelic Salon webpage,
00:53:08 ►
which you can find at psychedelicsalon.org.
00:53:11 ►
And if you
00:53:12 ►
are interested in some of the philosophy
00:53:14 ►
behind the Psychedelic Salon,
00:53:16 ►
you can hear all about it in my novel,
00:53:18 ►
The Genesis Generation,
00:53:19 ►
which is available as an audiobook
00:53:21 ►
that you can download at
00:53:23 ►
genesisgeneration.us.
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And for now, this is Lorenzo signing off from Cyberdelic Space.
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Be well, my friends.