Program Notes

Guest speaker: Robert Anton Wilson

[NOTE: All quotations are by Robert Anton Wilson.]
“There actually have been studies done at many schools in the big cities where IQ has measurably decreases from the entering of grammar school to graduation from high school. The longer they’re there they dumber they get. And some people think that’s an accident, or an oversight, or a mistake, but that is the function of the public schools. The function of the public schools is to stop thinking.”

“I perforce had to invent this style of paradoxes to prevent people from thinking they’re getting the truth out of my books. What you’re getting out of my books is my guesses, my hunches, sometimes my prejudices. … I don’t claim to know the truth.”

“And as a matter of fact, governments don’t act, governments only react. The bankers make the decisions, and then governments decide how are we going to adjust to this. Government can’t do anything unless the bank gives them the money to do it.”

Links and videos mentioned in this podcast
Robert Anton Wilson (DVD) “The ‘I’ in the Triangle” from The Original Falcon Press

Artist, saloner, and one of the Brooklyn Bridge 700:
Ken Vallario (Web site)

Ken Vallario’s story of his arrest

Information request about
Children of the Revolution: Tune Back In (2005)

OCCUPY STREAM (Video feeds from numerous Occupy sites)
MAKANA the Mighty

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Transcript

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Greetings from Cyberdelic Space.

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This is Lorenzo and I’m your host here in the Psychedelic Salon.

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And today is day 60 of Occupy Wall Street.

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And to begin with, I would like to thank the following fellow salonners

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who have either purchased a copy of my Pay What You Can novel,

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The Genesis Generation, or who have made a direct donation to the salon

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to help offset some of our expenses here. And these great people are Kyle G., Andrew M.,

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David F., Jeff E., Patrick G., Arwin O., and Eric I. And I really appreciate all of your help,

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particularly since my support of the Occupy movement seems to be driving some of our fellow Thank you. and so your continuing support means a lot to me and thank you all ever so much.

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Now before we get into today’s program I do have one announcement that I’d like to make and

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it comes from Emil L. who says in part, inspired by your R.A. Wilson podcast I remembered that

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there was a film where he appears. This one and he sent the link that I’ll add to the program notes here. This one, but I

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can’t find any copy on the net, nor one to purchase, nor a place to rent it. So I thought that you,

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as a center point of so many information threads, could help me somehow. By the way, big fan of your

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podcast and heard the Genesis Generation at least four times. So keep on doing. Four times, that’s

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quite a bit. So I appreciate that. And the name of this video, it’s a doing. Four times, that’s quite a bit, so I appreciate that.

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And the name of this

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video, it’s a documentary by the way,

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it’s titled Children of the Revolution

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Tune Back In.

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And it looks like it was

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released in

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2005 with

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Billy Ayers, Ram Dass,

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Zach DeLaRoccia, and

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Bernadine Dorn, among others. So if you know where Emil can find

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a copy, it would be nice of you to post that information in the program notes for today’s

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podcast, which you can get to via psychedelicsalon.us. And now for today’s program, I’m going to play the

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first half of a Robert Anton Wilson talk that was given without notes at a bookstore in Santa Cruz,

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Santa Cruz, California, that is, in 1990, 21 years ago.

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The appearance was organized and recorded by our latest salon benefactor, Joe Metheny.

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And he, along with the Original Falcon Press,

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which you can find, by the way, at originalfalcon.com,

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well, they’ve given me permission to play these Bob Wilson recordings,

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even though they are currently selling them online as well.

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And today’s talk is one that you may also want to purchase,

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particularly if you’re a big Bob Wilson fan,

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since it’s a video DVD that really shows him at the top of his form and in a very

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casual setting. You know, it’s quite fun to actually watch one of his performances that he

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does completely without notes. And unless I miss my guess, it’s also going to be fun to listen to

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right now. So let’s join the one and only Robert Anton Wilson, introduced by Joe Metheny.

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Okay, I’d like to thank everybody for showing up tonight.

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Welcome to Avalon Bookstore.

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We couldn’t convince Groucho Marx that he wasn’t dead,

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so instead we have Dr. Robert Anton Wilson.

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This is one of the shortest and most interesting introductions I ever had.

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Am I the only one who’s noticed that one of the last things Ronald Reagan did

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before leaving the presidency was to have an operation on his asshole?

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One of the first things George Bush did on entering the presidency was to have an operation on his little thing.

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The only one who imagines a connection there.

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It’s for a man my age, and there are very few, most men my age are dead already, as Casey Stengel once said.

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There are very few.

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Most men my age are dead already, as Casey Stengel once said.

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For a man my age, it’s profoundly embarrassing for the president and vice president to name Bush and Quayle.

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When I was growing up, Quayle, in Brooklyn, when I was reaching puberty,

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Quayle had on me one meaning.

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It meant vagina.

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And I didn’t find out it also meant a bird until I was about 19. Adolescents in Brooklyn in the 1940s, before the sexual revolution, before the 60s,

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before the Kinsey reports were published and everybody found out, gee, I’m not the only

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one who does that. Back in the dark ages, boys around the cusp of puberty would gather

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at the boys’ room at the school and discuss bush and quail.

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Have you ever actually seen a bush?

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Yeah, my girl let me see a bush, but only quick for a minute.

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You know, I got two fingers in my girl’s quail.

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And I grew up with that.

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Bush and quail, bush and quail.

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I guess the adolescents you never find, And I grew up with that. Bush and grail, bush and grail. I can say to adolescents, you’re terrified that the grown-ups will find out you’re thinking about sex,

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much less talking about it, and doing anything about it is absolutely out of the question.

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So this is all, I can say penis and vagina, and I’m okay.

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I can say prick and cunt, and I’m okay.

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But the minute I get to quail, I’m 13 years old.

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I’m horrified that my parents

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are going to find out

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what I’m talking about

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with the other boys.

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And now every day

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I pick up the newspapers

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and there it is,

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bush and quail, bush and quail.

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What are they doing to me?

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I’ll look at bodies.

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I’ll destroy what’s left of my sanity.

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And you’ve all heard of the Church of the

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Subgenius.

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I trust.

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And you know the secret

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of Praise Bob.

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You know the secret of power.

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What’s the secret of power?

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Slack?

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Oh, no.

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Given how stupid the average guy is,

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statistically half the people are stupid.

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Right.

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You all know how dumb the average guy is.

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Well, mathematically, by definition,

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half of them are even dumber than that.

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Now, once you understand that,

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you can start your own religion

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and get as rich as Bob or Elrond Hubbard or Rajan.

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You shouldn’t have 93 Rolls Royces

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though if you just keep that in mind.

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Half of them are even dumber than average.

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And as if

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that’s not bad enough

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for the philosopher to

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complain. If you want to make money

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it’s good news, but if you’re a philosopher

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it’s bad news. On top of that

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we’ve got an incredibly large number

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of people nowadays who are just plain full

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of shit. I mean, have you noticed

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that? Movie stars,

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they’re all full of shit these days.

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You can get them to endorse anything.

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I heard

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recently, honest to God, of the Carol

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Hemingway show. Maybe some of you up here

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have heard of Carol Hemingway.

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It was a very good talk show.

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She had a woman on who gets testimonials from

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movie stars for various products. She’s in between. She makes a good profit on it. She

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said, Elizabeth Taylor recently turned down a million dollars to endorse something because

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she thought it was a rotten product. And suddenly I fell in love with Elizabeth Taylor and another Hollywood bubblehead

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some acting talent

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but now I’m in love with her

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this woman turned down a billion dollars just on a matter of principle

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and you can hardly find that these days

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movie stars will endorse anything

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and baseball players are even worse

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baseball players will get up there on television with their bare face hanging out and say,

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I never thought I’d like eating lepers, turds.

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They’ll give me that competitive edge I need.

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They’ll do anything for money.

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AIDS is good for you.

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I’ve never been so happy

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as when I got AIDS.

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Don’t forget your injection.

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They’ll save you.

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Pay them enough money.

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So we’ve got all these

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stupid people

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and then we’ve got

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all these celebrities

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who are full of shit

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and then if you look around

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you’ll find out that

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at least 30% of the population

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are batshit crazy.

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Crazy.

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Well, on Santa Claus it’s about 60%.

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So you see,

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you got the just plain stupid,

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you got the ones who are full of shit,

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you got the ones who are batshit crazy,

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and now we end up with a vice president

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who’s all three at once.

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And he has to be named Quail.

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He goes down to Latin America.

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He’s in Brazil.

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He apologizes to the crowd because he can’t speak Latin.

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He was speaking to the United Negro College Fund.

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He tried to quote their slogan.

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And he said, it’s a terrible thing to lose your mind.

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It’s a terrible waste to lose your mind. I mean, it’s a terrible waste to lose your mind.

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I mean… Well, I’m not going to do

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Dan Quayle jokes.

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He’s too easy.

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Besides, yes, he had a great record

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during the Vietnam War.

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As soon as the Viet Cong found out

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that dangerous Dan

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had joined the Indiana National Guard,

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they gave up all plans to

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invade Terre Haute. Most people don’t realize that. What I want to know is, have all these

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years of Plague Boy Center trolls been conditioning us to accept this Bush and Quayle and the

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White House Bush and Quayle, Bush and Quayle. You know the difference between Playboy, Penthouse, and Hustler?

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This is of no interest to the women in the audience.

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I’ll get to the women later.

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The difference between Playboy, Penthouse, and Hustler has been a lot of time meditating on this.

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Philosophers have to think about everything, you know, even the most trivial matters.

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In Playboy, the women look like they want you to make love to them, right?

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In Penthouse, they look like they get tired waiting

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when they start making love to themselves.

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And in Hustler, they look like they’re having a gynecological examination.

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Now you know the difference.

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And now you know the three types of males who buy the three different magazines.

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The way we have three of them.

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There’s a lot of inferior invitations, but those are the three major ones.

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These are the three basic approaches to Bush and Quayle.

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And that’s why we’ve got Bush and Quayle running the country.

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I hope that’s clear.

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I’m supposed to speak tonight about the Western Hermetic

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tradition. I’ve spoken

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and written so much about the Western Hermetic

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tradition of Boers.

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However, I’ll say something

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about the Western Hermetic tradition.

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You know

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the Earth is hollow, of course.

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Everybody here knows that.

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You wouldn’t be in

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an occult bookstore in Santa Cruz

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if you didn’t know the Earth is hollow.

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If you were in 1990, we’d all know that.

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Yeah, well, one of the people who knew it was Jules Verne.

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That’s why he wrote Journey to the Center of the Earth.

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As a matter of fact, it’s in several of Jules Verne’s novels.

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And if you get a hold of Michael Labbe’s book, Jules Verne’s novels. And if you get a hold of Michael Lamey’s book,

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Jules Verne, Initiate and Initiator,

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you’ll find out Jules Verne was a member of the Priory of Sion.

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You see, we’re getting into the Western occult tradition after all.

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Now, who are the Priory of Sion?

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Well, according to this book, Jules Verne, Initiate and Initiator,

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the Priory of Scion were formed

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in the 1890s as a front

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for the Illuminati of Bavaria

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who had decided to go underground

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and seal their existence

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and set up a front organization

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to recruit people. So the Priory

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of Scion are the old Illuminati

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of Bavaria still in business under a

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new name.

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And Jules Verne was one of their highest initiates.

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Hey, you’re getting a real heavy secret stuff tonight.

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This is what you paid for, I trust.

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And one of the major secrets of the Priory of Science is that the Earth is hollow, contrary to what profane science thinks.

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The Earth is hollow, and there’s an opening

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that goes right down to the center of the Earth at I’ve read in the Chateau in southern France, near the Spanish border,

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there’s a church there. It’s called the Church of Mary Magdalene. And it says over the door

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this place is terrible. And if you go down to the cellar of that church and press the

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right brick at the right time, a staircase opens leading down and you

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go right down to the center of the earth which is full of superhuman beings who are immortal,

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who never die. They have the secret of immortality and they are going to give it to the human race

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when we’re ready for it. But we’re not ready for it yet. But the purpose of the Priory of Sion is to get us ready for it.

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Okay? You know how many Freemasons it takes to change a light bulb in China? That’s a Michael Levy’s theory

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that the briary of Zion are alive

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with immortal superhuman beings

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who live in the center of the hollow earth

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and you can get in through a door in that church

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the church of Mary Magdalene

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in Red Wish Hotel

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that’s only,, that may not be

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the whole truth. I hate to

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disillusion you, but just because you buy

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a book in a new age bookstore doesn’t

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mean that everything in it is true.

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If you

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buy one of my books, at least half of it

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is batshit crazy.

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I believe

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my attitude towards the readers

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is an absolutely sadistic one.

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I use the word.

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E.E. Cummings said to Ezra Bound once,

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you damn sadists, I can see what you’re up to.

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You’re trying to force your readers to think.

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Well, that is a pretty sadistic thing to do.

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If you go to school, the first thing they teach you is to stop thinking.

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All children are born,

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as Mr. Fuller noticed,

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all children are born

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naked, hungry, and intensely curious.

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And as soon

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as they start talking, well, even before they

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start talking, being a parent

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consists chiefly of following them

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around the house, yelling, don’t put that in your mouth.

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Just because the

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oral bio-survival circuit turns

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on right after birth,

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the first thing they want is mommy’s

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titty. The second thing they want is

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to test the rest of the world to see if it’s as good

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as mommy’s titty.

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Is this as good as mommy’s titty?

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Now you know what the carpet tastes like,

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right?

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Everybody here knows what the carpet tastes like, right? Of course, everybody here knows what the carpet tastes like

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because you put it in their mouth.

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You know what the dirt in the flower pot tastes like?

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You know what everything tastes like

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because this is the first circuit of the nervous system that’s activated.

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If you want to know about the other seven circuits,

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buy my book, Prometheus Rising.

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That’s what I’m here for.

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It’s the sleek and subtle little books.

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I’ve made a book for me, Theos Rising. That’s what I’m here for, is to sneak in subtle little books and write books about self-awareness.

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As soon as they learn to talk,

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as I was saying,

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they stop testing everything

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by putting it in their mouth

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and they try to find out

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by wiggling their mouth

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and they figure out these sounds

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that grown-ups make have meaning.

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They start asking questions.

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And parenting then consists of saying,

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well, gee, I don’t know, I’ll go look it up in the encyclopedia.

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They find the most fascinating questions.

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Why is the sky blue?

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Gee, it’s always been blue as far back as I can remember.

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Maybe it’s full of orgone energy.

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Why is the sky blue? It’s the reflection of orgone energy. Why is this guy?

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Well, it’s the reflection of lakes and oceans.

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Now, wait a minute.

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And why does it rain?

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Well, it’s excess moisture in the clouds, I think, or something like that.

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But then they want to know, why is America here and not in Africa?

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Well, and the function of the public school system

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is to put a stop to that.

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If we had a population who kept a curiosity of small children,

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people would be going around trying to find out everything for themselves,

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and such intense curiosity is likely to tumble the whole edifice of authoritarian society.

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There’s a bridge in Amsterdam.

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Well, there are a lot of bridges in Amsterdam, aren’t there?

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Yeah.

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There’s one particular bridge in Amsterdam.

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You go over it and you find yourself on E-tunnel,

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and there’s a great coffee house there which has a sign in it that says, no hard drugs

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please, which I love.

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It’s so civilized,

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it’s so NATO-like, it’s the essence

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of Dutchness. No hard

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drugs, please.

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It’s not polite.

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It reminds me of when Nancy Reagan

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was popularizing, just say no.

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And Timothy Leary said, we can be

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more polite than Republicans. Say no,

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thank you.

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That’s no

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hot drugs, please. This is

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a typical Amsterdam

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coffee house, which means that you

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can buy a hashish cigarette

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with your coffee, which does

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do a lot to add to the flavor of

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coffee. And it does

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a lot for the chocolate buns, too.

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But no hard drugs,

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please. That’s so civilized

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in Dutch. Because

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really, you’re sitting around in one of those nice

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Amsterdam coffee shops with a bunch of friends

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drinking coffee, blowing

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air, relaxed at peace

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with the world.

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You think, gee,

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someday the whole world

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will be like Amsterdam.

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That’d be wonderful.

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And you don’t want

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somebody in the corner

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or they work something

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and you’re going to

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shove a needle in.

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It lowers the whole

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total.

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So no hard drugs,

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please.

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I love Amsterdam.

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But anyway,

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there’s the bridge

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you cross over there.

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It says under the bridge,

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abuse of authority comes as no surprise.

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One of the most profound political statements I’ve ever encountered.

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Abuse of authority comes as no surprise.

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And authority cannot survive question,

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especially authority that’s based on nothing but bluff.

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And since governments are based principally on force and deception,

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democratic governments are based chiefly on deception,

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other governments on force.

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And democratic governments, if you get too uppity,

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they give up on the deception and they resort to brute force again.

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That’s a lot that was found out in the 60s.

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Those who didn’t find out in the 60s will find out in the 90s

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because we’re going to have a rerun of the 60s.

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So then I want people going around asking questions.

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So the question is, how do you stop this natural human curiosity

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and this incredible intelligence that humans are born with?

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All humans seem born with

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a very high IQ compared to

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chimpanzees, orangutans,

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dogs, cats, etc.

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Like a dog.

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You notice

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that dogs don’t have any sense of time

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whatsoever. You know, you

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go out the door and you remember

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you forgot your wallet. You go back in.

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The dog says, I thought you’d never come back. I told you never come back, I told you never come back.

00:20:27

Thank God you’re back, thank God you’re back.

00:20:29

You never did worry how to use the can opener.

00:20:31

I thought I’d get to see you all four again.

00:20:34

It’s the same as if we’d gone for two weeks, you know.

00:20:39

I thought I’d never see you again.

00:20:41

Cats are cool.

00:20:46

I’ve seen cats.

00:20:48

Did you ever see a cat walk right into a glass?

00:20:52

A cat will walk right into a blanket.

00:20:55

They won’t admit they were surprised.

00:20:58

Their whole career depends on seeming smart at the door.

00:21:02

Their feet feel inferior.

00:21:05

The whole cat’s shtick.

00:21:07

Just look how imperturbable I am.

00:21:10

Look how cool and serene.

00:21:12

You want to know boonism, man?

00:21:14

What?

00:21:16

So a cat walks into the glass.

00:21:19

Bang!

00:21:19

Turns around.

00:21:20

I meant that.

00:21:21

I intended that.

00:21:21

I don’t want you to think stupid.

00:21:23

I know what I’m doing.

00:21:24

You follow the cat. You see it’s hiding behind the couch going,

00:21:27

I must have ripped off a bunch of George Carlin’s material.

00:21:43

Oh, we’ll never get this on the radio.

00:21:47

So public schools were founded

00:21:49

and human IQ began decreasing immediately.

00:21:55

There were actually studies done,

00:21:57

quoted in Paul Goodman’s book,

00:21:59

Growing Up Absurd.

00:22:01

Paul Goodman, Growing Up Absurd.

00:22:04

Just so you don’t think I’m making this up.

00:22:06

There are actually studies done, many schools in the big cities,

00:22:11

where IQ immeasurably decreases from the entering of grammar school to the graduation from high school.

00:22:17

The longer they’re there, the dumber they get.

00:22:20

And some people think that’s an accident

00:22:25

or an oversight

00:22:26

or a mistake

00:22:28

but that is the function of the public school

00:22:30

the function of the public school is to stop thinking

00:22:32

the idea is to teach people

00:22:34

the cynicism level of intelligence

00:22:37

they want us to go back

00:22:39

before the primate level

00:22:41

I see a few puzzled frowns

00:22:44

cynicism comes from the Latin it means. I see a few puzzled frowns.

00:22:46

Cytocine comes from the Latin. It means

00:22:48

to repeat like a parrot.

00:22:52

Cytocinism is the habit of

00:22:53

repeating whatever you hear.

00:22:55

All brainwashing movements are based

00:22:57

on getting people to repeat things together.

00:23:00

Like,

00:23:01

where

00:23:02

there’s a right-wing nut on the radio down in L.A.

00:23:08

named Wally something or other.

00:23:09

I can’t even remember his last name.

00:23:11

Wally George, yeah, I can’t even remember his last name.

00:23:14

You turn him on, and the first thing you hear,

00:23:16

he’s got this record which simulates a live audience,

00:23:21

and he made this damn record himself, you know,

00:23:24

and it’s a whole bunch of voices

00:23:25

chanting, Wally, Wally,

00:23:27

Wally. And you suddenly realize

00:23:29

it’s the same beat. Satan and I,

00:23:31

Satan and I, it’s the same old trick.

00:23:35

And he comes on

00:23:36

and starts raving, this is a Christian country.

00:23:38

I think all the non-Christians should be

00:23:39

thrown out of the country right now.

00:23:42

Then he gets phone calls and insults everybody

00:23:43

who disagrees with him.

00:23:45

And then he points, Wally, Wally, Wally.

00:23:48

You think, Jesus, I lived through this in the 30s.

00:23:50

What’s going on here?

00:23:53

The people, after eight years of grammar school and four years of high school,

00:24:00

most people are ready for that sort of thing because they have been taught,

00:24:04

you never think, you never judge, you never trust your senses, you never report what you see,

00:24:11

hear, smell, or any way surmise from the environment. You repeat what the teacher tells you. If

00:24:18

they catch you thinking, you get a lower mark. I one time got a C on a term paper at

00:24:25

Brooklyn Polytechnic. It was the

00:24:28

longest term paper in the whole

00:24:30

class. I checked that out.

00:24:31

It had more footnotes than any other

00:24:33

paper. They were all accurate

00:24:36

footnotes. All the proper

00:24:37

apparatus of scholarship.

00:24:39

And why did I get a C? I asked the teacher,

00:24:41

why did I get such a low mark? These guys wrote these little

00:24:43

short papers, got A’s. I got a C for I asked the teacher, why did I get such a low mark? These guys wrote these little short papers, got A’s,

00:24:45

and I got a C for this big, long philosophical paper.

00:24:48

He said, engineers don’t write like that.

00:24:50

You must have plagiarized it.

00:24:52

He caught me thinking.

00:24:56

That’s the one thing they can’t stand is if they catch you thinking,

00:24:59

they’ve got to find some excuse to punish you.

00:25:01

You’re not supposed to think.

00:25:02

You’re supposed to repeat what you hear.

00:25:05

And almost all books are written on that principle. Books are written, this is the truth. I found out

00:25:11

the truth. I will not explain it in chapter one. I’ll explain a little more in chapter two. In

00:25:15

chapter three, I’ll summarize chapter one and chapter two to make sure you get it. Then in

00:25:19

chapter four, I’ll tell you a little more. Then in chapter five, I’ll repeat it a different way.

00:25:24

Then in chapter six, I’ll tell it to you again. Then in chapter five I’ll repeat it a different way. Then in chapter six I’ll tell it

00:25:25

to you again. Now you better believe it.

00:25:27

I’ve proven it. Now go and tell all

00:25:29

your friends to buy these books and they’ll learn

00:25:31

the truth too.

00:25:33

And people who’ve been through our educational system

00:25:36

they think they’re thinking

00:25:38

when they’re just

00:25:39

repeating like parents.

00:25:42

So I set out

00:25:43

to sabotage the whole system

00:25:46

by writing books that nobody

00:25:48

can believe.

00:25:50

You believe one part.

00:25:52

You take any book of mine and you believe

00:25:53

the first 30 pages, you can’t believe

00:25:55

the next 30 pages.

00:25:57

If you somehow make a synthesis between

00:25:59

them, it’s a upper alien level.

00:26:02

This is the thesis, this is the

00:26:03

antithesis, somehow I’ll make a synthesis up here.

00:26:06

You find the next 30 pages throw you

00:26:08

into an entirely different reality tunnel.

00:26:11

By the time you get to the end,

00:26:12

you don’t know when I’m kidding

00:26:13

and when I’m telling the truth.

00:26:15

And for force, you either have to start thinking,

00:26:18

which is how people end up in seminars like this,

00:26:22

or they throw the book across their room

00:26:24

and they say, what’s this son of a bitch up to?

00:26:26

I think he should be banned.

00:26:30

And

00:26:30

that is my whole problem.

00:26:33

It horrifies me that somebody

00:26:35

might believe something I’ve

00:26:38

written. Because I know how

00:26:40

fallible I am. I’ve had to live with myself

00:26:42

for 58 years and I know what a

00:26:44

schmuck I can be. And the thought that somebody’s going to set me up as an idol and say it must be

00:26:48

true because Robin Anton Wilson wrote it, that is such a terrifying thought that I perforce

00:26:54

had to invent this style of paradox and play to prevent people from thinking they’re getting

00:26:59

the truth out of my books. What you’re getting out of my books is my guesses, my hunches, sometimes my prejudices.

00:27:08

But I don’t know. Unlike the Pope,

00:27:12

the Ayatollah, Rajneesh,

00:27:16

Carl Sagan, and all the other prophets of all the

00:27:19

various, I don’t claim to know the truth. All I claim to know is

00:27:23

little hunks of what I’ve experienced

00:27:25

and guesses I’ve made.

00:27:28

I guess there’s a world external to my brain.

00:27:33

I can’t prove it.

00:27:35

But it seems more reasonable because I have pretty good luck

00:27:39

most of the time when I’m writing and I want a cup of coffee.

00:27:42

I have pretty good luck at getting up

00:27:46

from the worry processor, out the

00:27:47

door, down the hall, into the kitchen

00:27:49

to the coffee machine and bringing back

00:27:51

coffee. And I don’t think that would

00:27:53

work as often as it does if there were no

00:27:56

real world out there.

00:27:59

I know

00:28:00

there are philosophers who can prove there is

00:28:02

no real world out there,

00:28:03

but I find it more convenient to to prove there is no real world out there but I find it more

00:28:05

convenient

00:28:05

to assume

00:28:06

that there

00:28:06

is

00:28:06

I also

00:28:08

assume

00:28:08

I don’t

00:28:09

know anything

00:28:09

about it

00:28:10

except how

00:28:12

to find

00:28:12

the coffee

00:28:13

beyond that

00:28:14

it gets

00:28:15

more and more

00:28:15

perplexing

00:28:16

and confusing

00:28:17

for instance

00:28:23

I’ve gone

00:28:24

into

00:28:24

Girard the said La La Rasse Fabulose, published in Paris in 1973.

00:28:33

Dichon J. Louis.

00:28:35

My French is lousy.

00:28:36

You don’t have to tell me.

00:28:37

I do better at German.

00:28:39

Well, a little better.

00:28:41

I saw a sign going through Bavaria in November

00:28:45

looking out the window I’m reading all the street signs

00:28:48

and the towns we go into trying to translate them

00:28:50

and of course German speak names are very long

00:28:53

and they’re starting to blur

00:28:55

in my head because someone will go by so fast

00:28:57

I can’t translate them in my German

00:28:58

it’s not that great that I can translate

00:29:01

I started seeing all these weird things

00:29:03

finally I saw one that said

00:29:04

Heilige Fliegen der Kinderscheisse Straße.

00:29:08

I said, oh, no, that can’t be.

00:29:10

But it was 20 miles back by then.

00:29:13

I’m having it back there.

00:29:15

Couldn’t it possibly be

00:29:16

Heilige Fliegen der Kinderscheisse Straße?

00:29:19

Those of you who speak German

00:29:20

can explain that to me.

00:29:26

Duroptes said,

00:29:27

La Rasse Fabuleuse,

00:29:29

1973,

00:29:34

also deals

00:29:35

with the priori of science.

00:29:37

He explains that the works of

00:29:39

Nostradamus do not deal with the future.

00:29:42

Most people think

00:29:43

Nostradamus deals with the future,

00:29:45

which makes for a lot of puzzles because

00:29:47

if you start studying the history of interpretations of Nostradamus,

00:29:53

you find everything in Nostradamus has been interpreted a different way every century.

00:29:58

There are quatrains in there that some people thought referred to Napoleon.

00:30:03

Then later on they decided they referred to Bismarck.

00:30:06

Then later on they decided they referred to Kaiser Wilhelm.

00:30:11

Later it was Winston Churchill or Adolf Hitler.

00:30:14

Then it was Ronald Reagan.

00:30:17

They were all highly ambitious.

00:30:19

A couple of months ago we had an earthquake here.

00:30:22

Before your earthquake, there was a big earthquake

00:30:25

panic in Los Angeles because some cuckoo let out that he had deciphered one of these mysterious

00:30:33

verses of Nostradamus, and it said everybody in Los Angeles was going to get dumped in

00:30:38

the Pacific Ocean, and be shaken like martinis and then dumped in the Pacific Ocean on such

00:30:43

and such a day.

00:30:47

And a lot of people actually left Los Angeles.

00:30:50

I read this quatrain from Nostradamus,

00:30:55

and it seemed to me it could refer to any city, any day, in any natural calamity.

00:30:57

It wasn’t even necessarily an earthquake.

00:30:59

It could have referred to a cyclone in Miami.

00:31:03

But people got terrorized and fled Los Angeles,

00:31:04

which is all to the good.

00:31:06

It’s too crowded down there anyway.

00:31:09

The only thing to be said for Malathion Spring is that it’s going to thin out the population.

00:31:13

Those with the less hardy genes will die.

00:31:15

The tough ones will survive.

00:31:20

According to the Sud,

00:31:22

this assimilation of prophecy in Nostradamus is all a big hoax.

00:31:27

This is just to keep Nostradamus in print by attracting the superstitious and gullible.

00:31:32

Meanwhile, as long as Nostradamus is in print, what he actually deals with is not the future but the past.

00:31:40

What Nostradamus’ quatrains refer to is the hidden history of the past,

00:31:47

especially the past of France.

00:31:49

And the hidden history of the past of France,

00:31:54

as Girard de Cifres it, from Nostradamus’ quatrains,

00:31:59

is full of the most amazing things you’ve ever heard of before.

00:32:02

The old royal family of France, the Merovingians,

00:32:07

I will not attempt the French pronunciation at all.

00:32:09

I will not even make an effort at it.

00:32:12

The English call them Merovingians, and I can pronounce that,

00:32:14

so they’re Merovingians for tonight.

00:32:18

The French royal family up until the 8th, the 9th century,

00:32:22

the Merovingians, disappeared entirely.

00:32:24

Nobody knows what became of them.

00:32:28

The last Merovingian king, Dagobah II, was murdered in the Ardennes Forest

00:32:31

on December 23rd, 789.

00:32:36

Why December 23rd?

00:32:38

Oh, well.

00:32:39

No, I don’t want to get into that.

00:32:45

Why the Ardenne

00:32:46

forest

00:32:46

which is

00:32:47

named after

00:32:47

a bear

00:32:47

goddess.

00:32:50

No,

00:32:51

we shouldn’t

00:32:51

get into

00:32:51

that either.

00:32:52

That will

00:32:53

just leave

00:32:53

us down

00:32:54

into further

00:32:55

obscurity.

00:32:56

The

00:32:57

the

00:32:59

Mervin

00:32:59

Diggabay

00:33:01

disappeared

00:33:01

for several

00:33:02

hundred years

00:33:03

from history.

00:33:04

He was

00:33:04

considered one of the mythical kings

00:33:06

until somebody in the 18th century,

00:33:08

at the dawn of modern historical science,

00:33:12

when they went back to original texts

00:33:14

and compared one text with another

00:33:16

and started applying science to the American history,

00:33:18

they proved Deguebert really existed.

00:33:20

Why was he murdered and why was he obliterated from history

00:33:23

for several hundred years?

00:33:25

Well, according to Girard, it is said,

00:33:27

the Merovingians were systematically wiped out by the Vatican.

00:33:31

The Vatican had to get rid of all the Merovingians

00:33:34

because the Merovingians posed a serious threat to them.

00:33:37

The Merovingians were descended from the tribe of Benjamin

00:33:40

in ancient Israel and Old Testament days

00:33:43

and their mates, who were

00:33:47

not human.

00:33:48

The tribe of Benjamin intermarried with extraterrestrials from a planet in the system of the Sirius,

00:33:53

the star Sirius.

00:33:56

And the Orthodox Hebrews drove them out of Israel for this abominable sin of mating with

00:34:03

extraterrestrials. They moved to Arcadia in Greece,

00:34:07

which they named after a bear goddess. And then they moved to the Ardennes

00:34:12

region in France, which they named after another bear goddess.

00:34:15

That’s B-E-A-R, not B-A-R-E.

00:34:20

Although Artemis’ name means bear, and Greek was a bear goddess.

00:34:23

And a bear goddess, if you during the Actaeon legend.

00:34:28

The descendants of this intermarriage between extraterrestrials from Sirius

00:34:36

and ancient Israelites became the Merovingian dynasty,

00:34:40

who have superhuman powers and long hair that goes down the back of their neck

00:34:44

and down the back of their spine.

00:34:47

And the Vatican tried to wipe them all out, but a few of them still survived.

00:34:51

And they and their allies make up the Priory of Sion,

00:34:55

a secret society devoted to bringing the science of Sirius to Earth when we’re ready for it.

00:35:01

Now that’s a little bit different than the theory in Michael LeMay’s book, isn’t it?

00:35:05

There’s another reason I don’t claim to tell the truth. for it. Now that’s a little bit different than the theory in Michael LeMay’s book, isn’t it?

00:35:10

That’s another reason I don’t claim to tell the truth. I don’t know how to find out the truth.

00:35:15

I just collect theories and guess which one of them sounds more plausible. So far, neither of these sound very plausible to me. But I like the one about Sirius because there was a period in

00:35:21

1973 when I was getting communications from Sirius, or thought I was.

00:35:26

And then in 1974, my friend Phil Dick started getting communications from Sirius, too, or thought he was.

00:35:34

And so I’m always intrigued with Sirius.

00:35:37

I eventually decided I wasn’t getting communications from Sirius.

00:35:41

A psychic named Penny Looney told me I was channeling an ancient Chinese

00:35:46

philosopher.

00:35:47

And I started to try to make tests to see whether it was an extraterrestrial from Sirius

00:35:52

or a Chinese philosopher.

00:35:54

And I found either one worked.

00:35:56

And I found this to seem to fit the data, just like the wave and particle models in

00:36:01

quantum mechanics.

00:36:02

And then another psychic told me I was channeling a medieval Irish bard,

00:36:06

which made a lot of sense to me because I’ve always been attracted to medieval Irish poetry.

00:36:12

And if a medieval Irish bard was trying to use me as a channel all my life,

00:36:16

that’s why I would have gotten so involved with Irish literature.

00:36:21

But then I saw the movie Harvey,

00:36:28

literature. But then I saw the movie Harvey, which is about a fellow named Elwood P. Dowd in some city in Ohio who’s out of a bar one night and meets a six-foot-tall white rabbit

00:36:33

lounging against the lamppost. And the rabbit says to him, how are you this evening, Mr.

00:36:38

Dowd? And in the movie, when Elwood tells this to the psychiatrist, his sister is taking

00:36:43

him to the psychiatrist and says, weren’t you surprised? And Elwood says, when Elwood tells this to the psychiatrist, his sister has taken him to the psychiatrist and says,

00:36:45

weren’t you surprised? And Elwood says, no, it’s a small town, everybody knows my name.

00:36:51

It makes sense.

00:36:55

The six-foot-tall white rabbit is well-known in County Kerry.

00:37:09

County Kerry. He’s called the Pooka, which some linguists claim is the earliest Indo-European form of the word, which became bog in Russian and god in English. It means the divinity,

00:37:15

the divinity. The earliest divinity of Europe was a giant rabbit, according to some theories.

00:37:21

This giant rabbit still survives in County Kerry, where in modern Gaelic he’s called the puka.

00:37:27

And occasionally some of them wander as far as Ohio

00:37:30

to leave that place.

00:37:32

There’s a skeptical psychiatric orderly

00:37:34

in the play named Wilson,

00:37:36

and he looks up puka in the dictionary,

00:37:39

and the definition he finds in the dictionary

00:37:42

is puka,

00:37:43

and a Celtic elf or vegetation spirit,

00:37:48

wise but mischievous, fond of rump pots, cracked pots,

00:37:52

and how are you tonight, Mr. Wilson?

00:37:55

Well, when I saw that on television, I thought,

00:37:58

oh my God, I’m like Philip Beck, the television is talking to me.

00:38:02

Phil, it’s like the television is talking to me.

00:38:11

So I decided to experimentally think the attitude that what was communicating with me or through me

00:38:14

was a six-foot-tall white rabbit from County Kerry.

00:38:17

And I found that made as much sense as assuming it was an extraterrestrial

00:38:20

or an ancient Chinese philosopher or medieval Irish

00:38:26

bard. So I adopted the

00:38:28

six foot tall white rabbit from Cary

00:38:30

because there is absolutely no

00:38:32

danger that I might take that literally.

00:38:34

And I think when you’re dealing

00:38:36

with these processes, the worst danger

00:38:38

is what the Sufis call literalism.

00:38:40

Never be literal.

00:38:42

Literal.

00:38:43

Oh my God.

00:38:45

Ovular.

00:38:47

There’s an ovular shape on the floor.

00:38:50

There is no such word as ovular.

00:38:52

He denies that there’s such a word as ovular.

00:38:54

Put that in the book.

00:38:55

You recognize that?

00:38:57

That’s from Wesson Wells’ version of the trial. If you don’t like the six-foot-tall white rabbit from Kamikari,

00:39:09

you can call it the right hemisphere of the brain.

00:39:13

Or you can call it the collective unconscious.

00:39:17

Anyway, whether I was getting messages from Sirius

00:39:24

or from my own unconscious or the collective unconscious

00:39:27

or what lies even deeper than the collective unconscious

00:39:31

according to Jung, the psychoid level

00:39:34

which is the same in all animals, not just in humans

00:39:37

and it’s also the same in inanimate matter

00:39:39

as it is inanimate matter

00:39:41

and it has the quantum characteristic of non-locality

00:39:44

so it includes all space and all time It is an animate matter, and it has the quantum characteristic of non-locality.

00:39:48

So it includes all space and all time,

00:39:51

which explains why you often get precognition on this level,

00:39:55

which is why Jung calls synchronicity.

00:39:59

One student of Jung tells about a time at the Jung Institute when they were having one of these incredible coincidences after another.

00:40:03

This student said to Jung, I can’t understand all this.

00:40:05

It’s just synchronicity.

00:40:07

And then the next day there was more of it.

00:40:09

This student says,

00:40:09

how can this synchronicity keep on happening like this?

00:40:12

Jung said, okay, it’s demons.

00:40:15

And it’s my approach is

00:40:17

it’s the non-local level of mind

00:40:21

as described by the great quantum physicist

00:40:25

Evan Harris Walker in his paper

00:40:27

The Complete Quantum Anthropologist.

00:40:30

And anybody who can’t understand

00:40:31

the mathematics in Walker’s paper,

00:40:33

it’s a six foot tall white rabbit

00:40:35

from County Kerry that you can understand, right?

00:40:38

Just don’t take it literally.

00:40:40

Anyway, there’s

00:40:41

a church in

00:40:43

Stenei

00:40:44

which was one of the capitals of the Burabijian dynasty,

00:40:49

which is oriented so that if you stand by the altar and look out the door in the summer,

00:40:54

you’ll see Sirius framed right in the doorway leading into the church.

00:41:00

And Descende compares this to the church of Mary Magdalene in Rennes-le-Chateau,

00:41:05

in which the 14 stations of the cross have many oddities which have never been explained.

00:41:10

For instance, there’s a snatchman in kilts watching the crucifixion.

00:41:14

You will not find this in either the Christian Bible or in any of the Gnostic Bibles.

00:41:20

You’ll also find some people carrying Jesus out of the tomb in the middle of the night,

00:41:25

as if he didn’t die at all.

00:41:27

They were about to fake a resurrection.

00:41:29

And it says over the door, this place is terrible.

00:41:32

Well, this was built by a priest named Fr. Saunier in the 1890s.

00:41:42

According to the site, these 14 stations of the cross contain coded references like Nostradamus

00:41:50

that shows that the royal family of France is descended broadly from Sirius and possess

00:41:56

superhuman powers.

00:41:58

And there are hints that we’ll have peace in Europe and probably in the whole world

00:42:02

once these superhuman beings are allowed to rule us again

00:42:06

after all the mistakes of the last two centuries are undone

00:42:09

and all these democratic follies are put aside

00:42:12

and we accept these superhuman beings who come here just to help us.

00:42:16

And I say, gee, that bullshit sounds familiar.

00:42:18

We’ve heard that before.

00:42:20

We’ve been hearing that since the Stone Age

00:42:22

about various types who have a desire to rule.

00:42:27

Oh, we’re not humans like you are.

00:42:28

We’re descended from the sun god.

00:42:30

That’s what the Aztecs said.

00:42:32

That’s what the Incas said in Peru.

00:42:34

That’s what the…

00:42:35

Hirohito was the last one to claim that.

00:42:38

He was buried.

00:42:39

God is dead.

00:42:41

Ever since Hirohito was buried,

00:42:42

we got one more godson on this planet.

00:42:44

He was the last one.

00:42:46

Well, no, we still

00:42:47

had Rajneesh, didn’t we? After Rajneesh

00:42:50

was buried, it was something

00:42:51

we were left on our own. We’ve got to figure it out

00:42:54

for ourselves now.

00:42:55

Well, maybe another god will pop up

00:42:57

somewhere.

00:43:01
00:43:03

When

00:43:04

LaRosse Fabuse was published,

00:43:08

a Swiss journalist named Matthew Cowley published a book called

00:43:12

Undercurrents of Political Ambition.

00:43:15

He got interested in the Priory of Sion because he found their newsletter circuit

00:43:20

was being distributed through the lodges of the Grand Loge Alpina, the largest

00:43:26

Masonic brotherhood in Switzerland.

00:43:29

As a matter of fact, the Grand Loge Alpina contains the bankers who owned the banks in

00:43:36

Zurich and Basel, who pretty much controlled European finance.

00:43:42

And there’s as many conspiracy theories about the Grand Loge Alpena

00:43:46

over in Europe as there are

00:43:48

about the Bohemian

00:43:50

Club over here. These are

00:43:52

the richest people in Europe, and they belong to

00:43:54

the secret Masonic group, the Grand

00:43:56

Loge Alpena. Harold Wilson,

00:43:59

no relative,

00:44:01

he was a prime minister

00:44:02

in England back before Thatcher,

00:44:04

if anybody can remember a time before Thatcher

00:44:06

way back in the dark ages

00:44:08

there in the 70s

00:44:10

Harold Wilson called them the gnomes of Zurich

00:44:13

as far as I know

00:44:14

he was the only one that ever pronounced

00:44:16

the G in gnomes

00:44:18

he called them the gnomes

00:44:21

of Zurich

00:44:22

no matter what any government

00:44:24

in Europe tried to do if the gnomes of Zurich didn You can find, no matter what, any government in Europe tried to do,

00:44:26

if the gnomes of Zurich didn’t like it,

00:44:28

they’d stop it one way or another.

00:44:30

And as a matter of fact, governments don’t act.

00:44:33

Governments only react.

00:44:34

The bankers make the decisions,

00:44:36

and then governments decide how we’re going to adjust to this.

00:44:39

Government can’t do anything

00:44:40

unless the bank gives them the money to do it.

00:44:43

And if the bank says, we’ll give you this much money

00:44:46

for building armaments,

00:44:47

the government will build armaments because they can’t get

00:44:50

any money out of the bankers any other way.

00:44:52

If the bank says, we don’t want you to build armaments

00:44:54

anymore, we want you to build highways,

00:44:56

they’ll build highways.

00:44:58

So people will wonder and worry about

00:45:00

who’s president, whether it’s Bush or

00:45:02

Quayle or

00:45:03

Kubrick or

00:45:04

Anis or whoever.

00:45:08

The important thing is who’s running the banks.

00:45:10

They’re the ones who are making the decisions.

00:45:13

Anyway, the great Louis Jalpina was distributing this literature from the Priory of Science,

00:45:19

which said on the inside of the front cover that it was published by the Committee

00:45:23

to Secure the Rights and Liberties of Low-Cost Housing, Matthew Powley, the Swiss journalist, got interested in the

00:45:32

Committee to Secure the Rights and Privileges of Low-Cost Housing because he detected in

00:45:37

the priori of science publications that there was something that was not exactly centered

00:45:42

on low-cost housing.

00:45:44

There seemed to be a strong implication that there were superhuman beings in Europe

00:45:49

who were waiting for their turn to take over and solve all of our problems for us.

00:45:55

Apparently he started investigating,

00:45:57

and he found that a circuit was not published by the committee

00:46:04

to secure the rights and privileges of low-cost housing.

00:46:08

It was published out of the office of the Committee of Public Safety

00:46:11

of the Begaud Government in Paris,

00:46:14

which was run by André Malraux,

00:46:16

a great novelist and art historian,

00:46:19

and Pierre Plantard of Saint-Clair,

00:46:25

who is related to the St. Clairs of Scotland,

00:46:29

who have been connected with masonry since about the 13th century,

00:46:34

played a major role in the development of European masonry.

00:46:38

And it turns out that Pierre Plantard de Saint-Clair

00:46:41

was then the grandmaster of the Priory of Sion.

00:46:46

Howley decided that the Priory of Sion

00:46:49

was a conspiracy within the De Gaulle government

00:46:52

intended to restore monarchy in France

00:46:55

and perhaps establish a Europe-wide empire

00:46:59

with one emperor at the top like Napoleon had tried to do.

00:47:04

A year after this book was published,

00:47:06

Pauli was shot as a spy in Israel.

00:47:09

That must be a coincidence.

00:47:17

A magazine, a French magazine,

00:47:20

after these three books came out, a French magazine

00:47:26

whose name I don’t remember, but you can look it up in Holy Blood, Holy Grail,

00:47:30

they did their own study of the Priory of Zion, and they claimed that

00:47:34

Archbishop Lefebvre was the head of it. Now Archbishop Lefebvre

00:47:38

was the guy who for about 20 years was going around

00:47:41

denouncing the Vatican, claiming the Vatican had been taken over

00:47:45

by Freemasons and Satanists

00:47:48

during the reign of Pope John

00:47:50

the 23rd and that

00:47:52

the Catholic Church was now totally

00:47:53

corrupted by Masonic and Satanic

00:47:56

influences and his followers

00:47:58

often added to that

00:47:59

he is the man who should be Pope

00:48:01

he never said that himself explicitly

00:48:04

but that’s a strong feature in all propaganda

00:48:07

put out by Lefebvre groups.

00:48:09

They put an ad, did I mention this ad

00:48:11

that was in the Los Angeles paper?

00:48:14

I think I mentioned it earlier today.

00:48:16

A couple of weeks ago in the LA Times,

00:48:19

there was an ad that said,

00:48:20

Jesus and Mary predict huge earthquake for LA.

00:48:25

And this ad explained that Los Angeles is going to have a bigger earthquake than you have up here, much bigger.

00:48:31

And the only way to survive is by hanging crucifix on your door,

00:48:36

buying a rosary, and getting a copy of the Catholic Bible translated before 1965.

00:48:43

That’s before Vatican II. This is a key thing with the Lefebvre people,

00:48:50

is that everything since 1965, everything that’s come out of the Vatican since 1965 has been the

00:48:56

work of Freemasons and Satanists. And Lefebvre is the only one who’s maintaining the true Catholic

00:49:02

Church. And he got away with this for over 20 years.

00:49:06

Last year they abruptly excommunicated him.

00:49:08

For years I was wondering, why don’t they excommunicate this guy?

00:49:12

I mean, he’s marching up and down Europe, as it were.

00:49:14

He’s publishing all these guys, all these followers,

00:49:17

putting out all these hysterical publications

00:49:20

announcing the Vatican is run by Satanists.

00:49:23

And they just ignore him.

00:49:24

Well, after 20 years they stopped ignoring him

00:49:26

and they excommunicated him,

00:49:28

which means they got more publicity

00:49:29

and more followers.

00:49:30

Maybe that’s why it took them so long

00:49:32

to excommunicate him.

00:49:34

He’s got a group in Long Island

00:49:36

called Our Lady of the Flowers.

00:49:39

If you write to them,

00:49:40

you will get two rose petals

00:49:42

blessed by Jesus Christ himself.

00:49:44

And a lot of propaganda

00:49:45

about why Jesus wants you to kill

00:49:47

homosexuals.

00:49:50

Jesus is really

00:49:51

pissed at the gay men.

00:49:53

He’s got a real thing. He’s off his head on the

00:49:55

subject. That’s why he’s sending the

00:49:57

fucking earthquake.

00:50:01

This is

00:50:02

what the Lefebvre people believe.

00:50:03

One of his disciples,

00:50:09

Father Lone Cron, who was, as a matter of fact, ordained by Lefebvre himself, he tried to shoot the Pope and Fatima a couple of years ago, bang, bang, bang, and

00:50:14

he missed.

00:50:15

Well, priests are not trained.

00:50:18

He said at his trial that, in the cross-examination,

00:50:25

the prosecutor said,

00:50:28

you show no remorse whatsoever.

00:50:30

Do you feel no sense of guilt?

00:50:32

And he said, I have absolutely no guilt

00:50:34

about trying to kill the Antichrist.

00:50:36

My only guilt is that I convinced

00:50:38

some sins of the flesh when I was younger.

00:50:45

He’s funny about that 20 years later.

00:50:47

He doesn’t like shooting somebody.

00:51:02

In 1981, it appeared, Holy Blood, Holy Grail, in 1981

00:51:05

appeared Holy Blood Holy Grail

00:51:07

which at last revealed the actual truth

00:51:10

laughter

00:51:12

the Briary of Zion

00:51:16

is a medieval chivalric letter

00:51:19

devoted to protecting the descendants of the Merovingian dynasty

00:51:23

and the reason they are being protected against the continuous attempts of the Vatican to get rid of them all

00:51:30

is not that they are descended from people from Sirius,

00:51:34

but that they are descended from Jesus Christ and Mary Magdalene.

00:51:38

Jesus and Mary Magdalene had a son named Merovay who emigrated to France

00:51:43

and the Merovingian who emigrated to France and the American dynasty is

00:51:45

descended from him. And as a matter

00:51:48

of fact, Holy Blood, Holy Grail gives you

00:51:49

genealogies of all sorts of people descended

00:51:51

from Jesus Christ and Mary Magdalene

00:51:54

including Otto von

00:51:55

Habsburg.

00:51:57

Now Otto von Habsburg was one of the founders

00:51:59

of the Bilderbergers. I trust you’re

00:52:01

paying close attention at this point.

00:52:03

It gets a bit hairy around here. The Bilderbergers. I trust you’re paying close attention at this point. It gets a bit hairy around here.

00:52:06

The Bilderbergers,

00:52:09

originally sponsored by Prince Bernhard of the Netherlands,

00:52:13

was also on the charts in Holy Blood, Holy Grail.

00:52:16

He’s also descended from Jesus Christ and Mary Magdalene,

00:52:19

if you believe this theory.

00:52:22

Prince Bernhard founded the Bilderbergers.

00:52:24

Otto von Habsburg

00:52:26

is the chief financier behind

00:52:28

this. Otto von Habsburg’s

00:52:30

grandfather gave

00:52:32

several million francs to the

00:52:34

priest who built that weird church of

00:52:36

Mary Magdalene in

00:52:37

Rennes-le-Chateau with the sign over the door

00:52:40

saying this place is terrible.

00:52:42

And the brick in the cellar never led you down

00:52:44

to the center of Hollow Earth,

00:52:45

if you believe the other story.

00:52:47

And I have a friend who was over in Renly Chateau last year

00:52:50

and he found a hollow statue in the church.

00:52:53

He was looking around to see how many mysteries he could solve.

00:52:56

He found this hollow, by God.

00:52:58

None of the other investigators have discovered this.

00:53:01

I found something on my own.

00:53:03

He managed to get the statue open and unscrewed.

00:53:06

And inside were some German newspapers from 1904

00:53:09

that have absolutely no relation to any of this stuff.

00:53:14

At this point, I’m going to tell you,

00:53:17

one of the grandmasters of the prior messiah in the 1960s

00:53:22

was Jean Cocteau,

00:53:25

who was also one of the founders

00:53:27

of the Surrealist movement,

00:53:29

the biggest opium head in France,

00:53:32

experimented with peyote also.

00:53:38

There’s a movie Cocteau made with BBC

00:53:41

called Portrait of a Poet,

00:53:43

and Cocteau insisted on being in on the editing.

00:53:46

It was not just about him.

00:53:48

He wanted it to have his own style.

00:53:50

There’s a scene in there of Cocteau coming out of his house,

00:53:53

and the policeman stops him, asks him a couple of questions,

00:53:56

and then lets him walk on.

00:53:58

And on the soundtrack, you hear Costeau’s voice saying,

00:54:00

the poet must always be a suspicious character.

00:54:04

The authorities must always worry what he is hatching.

00:54:09

That’s why they have public schools, remember?

00:54:12

Make sure nobody’s hatching anything in the world.

00:54:15

Just repeating like parrots.

00:54:19

My beautiful wife, Arlen,

00:54:28

has read some of this literature, not as much as I have, but I keep waving these books at her and say, Jesus Christ, look at this, this, this, this. What do you think

00:54:32

about this? And she looked to holy blood, holy grail, and said, oh, it’s obvious. I

00:54:38

can see it. 1932, a cellar in Paris. Cocteau, Dali, Andre Breton,

00:54:46

a whole bunch.

00:54:47

They’re all sitting around smoking opium.

00:54:49

And one of them says,

00:54:50

you know, surrealism

00:54:51

has pretty much had it.

00:54:52

We’re getting bored.

00:54:53

We can’t revive Dada.

00:54:54

What are we going to do?

00:54:56

And Cocteau takes a long toke.

00:55:01

Let’s overthrow

00:55:02

the Catholic Church.

00:55:08

Well, that’s Arlen’s theory.

00:55:11

But the theory of science can be proven to be older than Tocqueville.

00:55:15

It was back at least to the 1890s and probably a couple of centuries before that.

00:55:20

Maybe back to the 13th century even, like they claim.

00:55:22

before that, maybe back in the 13th century even, like they

00:55:24

claim.

00:55:26

You’re listening to the

00:55:28

Psychedelic Salon, where people are

00:55:30

changing their lives one thought at a

00:55:32

time.

00:55:35

So, is all that clear now?

00:55:38

And guess what?

00:55:39

There is still about an hour more of this

00:55:42

talk that I’ll be playing in my next podcast

00:55:44

where Bob begins talking about the mysterious statues of the Black Virgin in several parts of the world.

00:55:52

Now, did you catch the part about 15 minutes into this talk when he said that the 90s were going to be like the 60s, or something like that?

00:56:00

Well, that shows what an optimist he was, and I think that Timothy Leary was also

00:56:05

thinking along those same lines at the beginning of the 90s. But while they were overly optimistic

00:56:11

about that date, they nonetheless were right about an era that is going to make the 60s look like the

00:56:17

Dark Ages, and it’s happening right now. Now, don’t get me wrong, a lot happened in the 60s, a lot of good things. But this time, there’s a difference, and it’s called the World Wide Web,

00:56:29

and it’s fueled by the mobile communications of people all over the world.

00:56:34

For the first time in human history, I think, we’re really beginning to discover what it’s going to be like,

00:56:39

and probably yet in most of our lifetimes, when everyone who wants to be will be jacked into the net somehow.

00:56:46

And as all online humans experience during the Arab Spring,

00:56:51

a group mind is gradually awakening on our lovely little planet.

00:56:55

That big shift that many of us have been talking about in private for years now

00:57:00

has actually begun.

00:57:01

And, of course, I’m talking about the global Occupy movement.

00:57:07

And so now let’s get to the Occupy News Update,

00:57:11

which I’ve decided to make a regular feature of these podcasts now,

00:57:15

because I happen to think that we, the entire human family,

00:57:19

are at the beginning of a truly psychedelic moment in history,

00:57:23

a moment when all bets are off

00:57:25

and the collective human mind is beginning to become manifest.

00:57:29

Not that it hasn’t been doing that for a long time, of course.

00:57:33

For example, the talk that we just heard was recorded in 1990.

00:57:38

You know, that’s about, well, it’s over 21 years ago, or is 21 years ago, I guess.

00:57:42

And do you remember what Bob Wilson said about the banksters

00:57:46

way back then?

00:57:48

Just to be sure, I’m going

00:57:50

to play it for you again right now.

00:57:52

So here’s Robert Anton

00:57:54

Wilson talking about the banks and government

00:57:56

back in 1990.

00:57:58

And as a matter of fact, governments

00:58:00

don’t act. Governments only react.

00:58:02

The bankers make the decisions

00:58:03

and then governments decide how we’re going to adjust

00:58:05

to this. Government can’t do

00:58:08

anything unless a bank gives them the money

00:58:09

to do it. And if

00:58:11

the bank says, we’ll give you this much money

00:58:13

for building armaments, the

00:58:15

government will build armaments because they can’t get any

00:58:18

money out of the bankers any other way.

00:58:19

The banks say, we don’t want you to build armaments

00:58:21

anymore. We want you to build highways

00:58:24

and they’ll build highways.

00:58:26

So people will wonder and worry about who’s president,

00:58:28

whether it’s Bush or Quayle or Kubrick or Anas or whoever.

00:58:36

The important thing is who’s running the banks.

00:58:38

They’re the ones who are making the decisions.

00:58:42

That actually could have been recorded at one of the recent Occupy events,

00:58:46

and yet here Robert Anton Wilson was telling that truth quite clearly over 20 years ago.

00:58:52

Now, I hope that by my next podcast I’ll be able to report that I have a new website up and going.

00:59:00

What I’m doing is I’m taking these Occupy comments from my weekly podcast

00:59:04

and pulling them out where other podcasters, musicians, whoever wants them,

00:59:08

can get to them a little bit more easily to pull out their own sound bites.

00:59:12

Also, you’ll be able to leave comments there specifically about the Occupy section of the podcast,

00:59:17

and we can leave the original notes from the Psychedelic Salon blog for comments about our guest speakers.

00:59:24

As I’ve been mentioning lately, I also set up a new email address

00:59:28

specifically for comments about the Occupy movement,

00:59:32

and for the first one that I’m going to read today comes from a fellow

00:59:35

salonner who seems to intensely dislike not only this

00:59:39

new segment, but the entire idea of the movement.

00:59:43

I’m not going to reveal his name because I have

00:59:46

hoped that in a year or so he’ll be quite embarrassed about the position he takes in this

00:59:50

email. But maybe he’s a dyed-in-the-wool, Rush Limbaugh, Fox News kind of Republican like I was

00:59:56

about 30 years ago, so it may take more than just one year to come around. But here’s what he had to say. And by the way, the subject of the email was,

01:00:06

you are wrong, which of course got my attention right away because I’ve got quite a long list

01:00:13

of things that I’ve been wrong about in the past, and I was looking forward to adding another item

01:00:17

to it. However, after you hear what this person said in his unsigned email, you’ll learn that I

01:00:23

don’t actually consider myself wrong

01:00:25

about this. So here’s the body of that message. I am profoundly disappointed in your apparent

01:00:31

approval of the Occupy Wall Street movement, which is a movement towards the destruction of capitalism.

01:00:38

Sure, capitalism has its flaws, but by no means is violence, hate speech, and anger going to solve

01:00:44

our current economic situation,

01:00:46

and it definitely will not propel us towards a higher state of consciousness

01:00:50

which you so eloquently preach through your psychedelic salon.

01:00:54

Most of the people at these rallies have no idea why they are there,

01:00:58

and most of them were sent there by their unions to protest, and they get paid.

01:01:02

So let’s look at this.

01:01:04

People protesting capitalism,

01:01:06

but at the same time they are working at a job for the unions and getting paid,

01:01:11

which is capitalism, it’s like a catch-22, isn’t it? These people need to occupy a job and start

01:01:17

doing something for society instead of believing in this socialist idea that somehow the government

01:01:22

should take money from other people and give it to others.

01:01:28

Do you honestly trust your government to do that?

01:01:29

Give me a break.

01:01:33

I worked hard for my money and it’d be a cold day in hell before I start giving my money to cheap bastards that occupy Wall Street rallies who take shits on cars,

01:01:39

yell hate speech at anyone who has a differing opinion,

01:01:42

and oh yeah, destruction without having a plan in order.

01:01:46

So, say this movement works. Capitalism is gone. What are you going to put in its place?

01:01:52

Does anyone have a friggin’ plan? Someone does, and that’s a plan of enslavement brought to you

01:01:57

by this government that keeps growing in size ever since the Democrats got in with Woodrow Wilson.

01:02:03

Do some research, Lorenzo.

01:02:08

The 99% are out there in the world going to church,

01:02:12

donating clothes, food, and time to help people in this tough time we are in. The 99% are not wandering around the streets sleeping in tents

01:02:17

and shouting a message that they don’t even understand.

01:02:20

This Occupy Wall Street movement is violence toward a violent goal

01:02:24

without any form of order to replace it with.

01:02:27

These people are useful idiots creating chaos so that a new order can be born out of it.

01:02:32

And you will not have any say in this new world, Lorenzo.

01:02:35

Not you, your friends, family.

01:02:38

The person with the plan is going to turn your world upside down and if it finds no need for you, it will throw you away.

01:02:46

your world upside down and if it finds no need for you, it will throw you away. A higher state of consciousness can only come about through peace and intelligence towards a new paradigm.

01:02:50

You can’t just destroy the system and have nothing in its place. Seriously, do some research before

01:02:56

you start preaching a message to the masses as a perverted spin of the truth. I am disgusted with

01:03:03

you and I have chosen to never download

01:03:05

another podcast from you until you get your head straight. Well, whoever you are, I hope you feel

01:03:14

better after that. But dear unnamed salonner, I guess that you aren’t even hearing my response

01:03:21

since you’ve abandoned us here in the salon.

01:03:26

And while it would be quite easy to dismantle your arguments piece by piece,

01:03:29

your understanding of what the Occupy movement is all about,

01:03:32

as well as a serious underestimate

01:03:34

of who all is involved,

01:03:36

is quite childish and completely misinformed.

01:03:41

I don’t think you even got a single fact correct.

01:03:44

But the fact is, I simply don’t have

01:03:47

time to speak to the lies that Fox News and your other sources of misinformation have fed you,

01:03:54

and since I know that you’re not listening, at least if you’re a man of your word and haven’t

01:03:58

downloaded another podcast, I then feel free to speak my mind and say what I think about your

01:04:04

simple-minded email

01:04:05

without worrying about hurting your feelings again.

01:04:08

But in the interest of time, I’ll just assume that you are gone forever.

01:04:12

But hey, we still have 99% of us left here in the salon, so let’s get on with it.

01:04:20

Now let’s get back to the real news and ignore these corporate media flacks who simply don’t get it.

01:04:28

Now I don’t know what you were doing last Wednesday night, and that’s November 9th, 2011, in case you are somewhere in the future,

01:04:36

but for me it was a truly surreal night.

01:04:39

What happened was that I was toggling back and forth between the Occupy Oakland General Assembly

01:04:46

and the unfolding drama at Occupy Berkeley,

01:04:50

along with a demonstration outside Sotheby’s Auction House in New York

01:04:53

where demonstrators were shouting shame to the wealthy shoppers who were leaving after an art auction.

01:05:00

Then, in the chat room of one of these live streams,

01:05:04

someone said that on ESPN there was a huge demonstration at Penn State University going on.

01:05:10

Now, since ESPN is a sports station here in the States, it was easy to figure out that the demonstration at Penn State had nothing to do with Occupy demonstrations that were taking place all over the country at the same time.

01:05:24

And for our non-U.S. Saloners, here’s a summary. demonstrations that were taking place all over the country at the same time.

01:05:28

And for our non-U.S. salonners, here’s a summary.

01:05:34

The head football coach at Penn State is sort of an institution within an institution.

01:05:37

I guess you could say he’s been institutionalized.

01:05:41

But he’s had that job for, I guess, over 45 years.

01:05:46

And that night, he’d just been fired because over many years he’d helped cover up the fact that one of his assistant coaches, at least this is all alleged right

01:05:50

now, that he’d allegedly helped cover up the fact that one of his assistant coaches had

01:05:55

been sexually molesting some of the young players, or maybe not the players, but young

01:06:00

people.

01:06:01

So the kids at Penn State, they have a very violent march about this dismissal of

01:06:07

their football coach. They even turned over a television station van and threw rocks at police,

01:06:13

things like that. So I turn on the TV and I see that there the kids on the east coast are violently

01:06:19

demonstrating about football and the police are doing nothing about it. And then on my live stream video feed,

01:06:25

I click over to the Berkeley demonstration and witness the police viciously beating young women

01:06:31

and men who are peacefully occupying a space that earlier in the day the university administration

01:06:36

told them was theirs to occupy. So what I’m going to do right now is to play a little audio collage

01:06:43

of some of what was going on that night at Occupy Oakland. And please keep in mind that what you’re about to hear didn’t happen in

01:06:50

the time frame in which you’re hearing it. The next few minutes are bits and pieces that I pulled

01:06:56

out of over six hours of recording that night. But I think that they’ll give you a better feel for

01:07:01

what was going on in the Occupy movement that you

01:07:05

maybe aren’t hearing on your evening television news shows.

01:07:10

Again, we want to remind everyone who’s a part of Occupy Oakland that in the event that

01:07:15

this camp is raided, we will meet the following day at the Oakland Public Library on the corner of 14th and Madison at 4 p.m. to reconvene.

01:07:32

Also, I’m sure that you already noticed, but the lights have been turned off. The city did turn the lights off on us this evening, and that raises safety concerns.

01:07:49

So as we use this space this evening, and in the future, as we leave this space tonight,

01:07:56

please make sure that you kind of use a buddy system and stay safe.

01:08:01

My name is Lauren.

01:08:03

I have been teaching Ugandan nonviolence at a local school here in Oakland since Vietnam.

01:08:09

This year, two scientists, Chenoweth and Stevens,

01:08:12

published Why Civil Resistance Works.

01:08:15

What they discovered is that 27%

01:08:20

of the revolutions that used violence succeeded, whereas

01:08:23

54% of the revolutions that use non-violence

01:08:26

succeeded. Thank you. Yeah, I just want to say that in this system a lot of violence is

01:08:34

invisibilized by the fact that it’s legitimate like the policing and harassment and the degradation

01:08:39

of black and brown communities. In this Oakland, on a daily basis,

01:08:45

people put up with violence,

01:08:47

and when people have enough of violence

01:08:49

and they get angry enough that they want to externalize

01:08:52

and say, hey, we’re actually being brutalized here too,

01:08:55

and they get angry and they break something,

01:08:57

I don’t think that we should be pointing fingers at people.

01:08:59

And I also think that graffiti,

01:09:03

we should not be embarrassed about graffiti. I walk around this world and

01:09:07

I see nothing that reflects me. That there’s any presence of myself. There’s corporate

01:09:12

advertisements everywhere. If people want to draw graffiti and have a visible representation

01:09:17

of their existence on this planet in a collective space, I think that that’s cool.

01:09:22

in a collective space, I think that that’s cool.

01:09:30

I’m soundly against this proposal,

01:09:37

and I speak against it from the position of being soundly in favor of solidarity with all people that we’re in struggle with.

01:09:40

And when we start passing proposals like this,

01:09:43

what we’re doing is we’re trying to exclude

01:09:46

people and we need each other here

01:09:48

this wouldn’t be here

01:09:50

if we weren’t here

01:09:52

and once we start pointing the fingers and trying to

01:09:54

exclude people for whatever

01:09:55

tactics they choose it’s a big mistake

01:09:58

and we’ll just start splintering

01:10:00

against this proposal

01:10:02

in favor of solidarity

01:10:03

I’m inviting the proposal group to now So against this proposal, in favor of solidarity.

01:10:10

I’m inviting the proposal group to now re-read their proposal,

01:10:13

and we will then directly go to voting on it.

01:10:19

We will vote on this proposal the same way that we did the previous. Yes.

01:10:27

Okay.

01:10:35

Originally, we started this proposal as a call for nonviolence in reaction to the destruction and basement of property

01:10:38

during the November 2nd general strike.

01:10:41

But after some discussion, we found out reality might be a bit more complex

01:10:44

than we’d like it to be a bit more complex than

01:10:45

we’d like it to be. This is why. The Occupy movement is an all-inclusive movement. Black

01:10:52

block is a tactic for protests and marches, where by individuals who wear black clothing

01:10:57

and participate in vandalism or destruction of property, but also in administering first

01:11:02

aid to people affected by tear gas and assisting the escape of people arrested by the police. Okay I’m gonna

01:11:09

skip this part just get to the proposal. We recognize that we are members of a

01:11:13

larger community locally and nationally and internationally. We acknowledge that

01:11:18

some Occupy Oakland supporters including the writers of this proposal are

01:11:22

embarrassed and upset about the destruction of property during the November 2nd general strike. We know that

01:11:29

our actions affect others and can either strengthen or jeopardize our movement’s

01:11:33

goal. We understand that there is a time and place for the diversity of tactics

01:11:38

of Occupy Oakland supporters and in hindsight the November 2nd general

01:11:42

strike wasn’t the best time or place to employ BlackBlock.

01:11:50

We urge individuals employing BlackBlock tactics to please practice appropriate restraint and discipline at peaceful events.

01:11:59

We ask individuals using BlackBlock to please refrain from damaging local businesses,

01:12:04

especially those that support Occupy Oakland and the Occupy movement in general. individuals using BlackBlock to please refrain from damaging local businesses, especially

01:12:05

those that support Occupy Oakland and the Occupy movement in general. We encourage all

01:12:11

individuals using peaceful and nonviolent means of protest to continue doing so and

01:12:16

to encourage others to do the same. Let us remember that a house divided cannot stand.

01:12:22

We cannot let ourselves fall by our own hand or by the hand of the 1% all of us ought yeah thank you hey we have the

01:12:30

vote count all right so we have 112 approvals 599 disapproval and a hundred

01:12:41

and forty eight stand-asides that gives us a total count of 859

01:12:47

and an approval rating of 15.8%.

01:12:50

This proposal is, I guess, tabled for further work.

01:13:01

Would the proposal makers like to announce a meeting point

01:13:04

for further discussion, or would you just like to move on?

01:13:09

Goodbye.

01:13:09

Goodbye.

01:13:15

This conversation should continue.

01:13:19

Most likely, you can all find me online at ppyoakland.org.

01:13:25

Check the forums.

01:13:26

There’s a lot of great discussion there.

01:13:28

And, yeah.

01:13:29

Thank you.

01:13:30

And Sarah has an update for us.

01:13:34

So, again, this is a radically inclusive space.

01:13:37

Bringing a proposal before the General Assembly takes a lot of courage.

01:13:41

It provided a very important conversation tonight.

01:13:44

So we want to thank those people.

01:13:50

What it also did was allowed us to practice what it means to listen to voices and opinions that

01:13:56

aren’t in agreement with our own and to also respect dissent.

01:14:01

Also respect dissent.

01:14:01

Yes.

01:14:06

Okay, so the next proposal.

01:14:10

And so that is what was going on in Oakland that night as they discussed the ins and outs of what it means to be all-inclusive

01:14:15

and yet a nonviolent movement.

01:14:17

While at the very same moment, several thousand young,

01:14:20

mostly male college students at Penn State

01:14:22

were rioting over the firing of a football coach.

01:14:26

But with yet one more click, I switched over to Occupy Berkeley,

01:14:30

where earlier that day the police had attacked some peaceful student demonstrators,

01:14:35

and now thousands had gathered as rumors of another police attack were running through the crowd.

01:14:41

And again, I’ve shortened an hour or so of actual events into a few minutes just to give you a little idea

01:14:47

of what was going on just a few miles from the peaceful

01:14:51

Occupy Oakland General Assembly.

01:14:54

…by the school administrator and to stand their ground, which I support

01:14:58

and which I support them on.

01:15:04

That’s the latest update.

01:15:05

That was, GA was, I guess, held approximately about 6 o’clock-ish.

01:15:12

It was their first General Assembly.

01:15:13

The process was, you know, they’re still learning the process,

01:15:17

but I just love to see the movements in their infancy,

01:15:20

and I’m here to support UC Berkeley and Occupy Cal

01:15:23

by being here and giving the eyes and ears to the world for you guys.

01:15:28

So thank you guys for joining us here.

01:15:30

And I’ll continue to be here.

01:15:33

And I’m guessing it’s still going to be another hour and a half.

01:15:36

And I see another familiar face.

01:15:38

How are you?

01:15:38

Pretty good.

01:15:39

Occupy San Francisco, right?

01:15:40

Yeah.

01:15:41

How are you?

01:15:43

Good.

01:15:43

I’ve been here since like 5.

01:15:46

Oh, great.

01:15:47

So, do you need an update?

01:15:50

I would love an update.

01:15:51

Alright, so, I’ve got a gold revolver in my hand.

01:15:55

So what happened was, I guess about 2 or 3 o’clockish or so,

01:16:00

there were tents, they filmed an arm lock of tents as the cops came. They beat a bunch

01:16:06

of people to try to get the tents out. By the time I got here, about 5 o’clock, the

01:16:11

cops were gone. People were here. They were getting ready for their General Assembly.

01:16:15

They had their first General Assembly. The process was a little skewed, but they’re getting

01:16:18

the hang of it. One administrator, I guess he’s a student body administrator, I don’t

01:16:24

know exactly who he was. He came and basically told them, for one week, I guess he’s a student body administrator, I don’t even know exactly who he was,

01:16:26

he came and basically told them,

01:16:27

for one week, we’re allowed to be here 25 hours a day,

01:16:30

no sleeping, no food, no tents,

01:16:33

but you’re allowed to be here, minus those terms.

01:16:36

And they all called him bullshit and booed him out of there.

01:16:39

And then they took a vote.

01:16:40

They got a 93% consensus to defend the encampment,

01:16:43

and that’s where we’re at.

01:16:45

Okay, they’re gathering. There’s at least

01:16:47

a few dozen cop cars around the corner.

01:16:51

UCSF

01:16:51

reinforcements, sheriff’s

01:16:53

reinforcements, two empty buses around the

01:16:55

corner. So, we’re waiting

01:16:58

for, I guess, the 10 o’clock ultimatum

01:16:59

to tear the tents down.

01:17:00

All right, well then,

01:17:02

there’s an airs and airs room.

01:17:05

I’m going to ask any students All right, well then, there’s the nearest pens room.

01:17:08

I’ve got a couple of students.

01:17:10

I live in the lower case.

01:17:13

I’ve got global refs taking a second.

01:17:18

I just, well, thank you very much for the update, and I’ll be back.

01:17:22

I got an extra Sharpie.

01:17:23

Thank you.

01:17:25

Can you ask them down there if anyone needs one?

01:17:30

Does anybody need a Sharpie for the Lawyers Guild number on their arm?

01:17:31

You ought to have it on your arm.

01:17:32

You must have it on your arm.

01:17:33

You hold this for a second.

01:17:35

What number?

01:17:37

You got it. You got it.

01:17:37

Okay.

01:17:39

Just give him a good view. The whole world is watching.

01:17:42

The whole world is watching.

01:17:43

The whole world is watching. The whole world is watching! The whole world is watching!

01:17:46

The whole world is watching!

01:17:48

The whole world is watching!

01:17:50

The whole world is watching!

01:17:52

The whole world is watching!

01:17:54

The whole world is watching!

01:17:56

Stop police brutality!

01:17:58

Stop the occupation of video!

01:18:00

Stop the occupation of video!

01:18:02

Stop the occupation of video!

01:18:04

They come, they do it. They come, they do it. Stop it! Stop it! Stop it! Who are you protecting?

01:18:06

Who are you protecting?

01:18:08

Who are you protecting?

01:18:10

All of these people in violation of the first amendment of the United States of America.

01:18:14

Who are you protecting?

01:18:16

Who are you protecting?

01:18:18

Who are you protecting?

01:18:20

Who are you protecting?

01:18:22

Who are you protecting?

01:18:24

Who are you protecting?

01:18:25

Call the ambulance.

01:18:30

Call the ambulance.

01:18:35

Call the ambulance.

01:18:40

Call the ambulance. Please call an ambulance! We’re demanding you call an ambulance!

01:18:47

Please call an ambulance!

01:18:49

You’re for the safety of people.

01:18:52

You’re for the safety of people.

01:18:53

Somebody just got beat the crap out of and you want to

01:18:55

kick up your fucking mic and call an ambulance,

01:18:58

you motherfuckers!

01:19:01

Because I’m streaming, I have 5,000 people in my hand

01:19:03

watching this all around the world. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39, 40, 41, 42, 41, 42, 42, 43, 44, 44, 45, 41, 42, 44, 45, 41, 42, 44, 45, 41, 42, 41, 42, 42, 41, 42, 42, 41, 42, 43, 41, 42, 41, 42, 41, 42, 41, 42, 41, 42, 41, 42, 41, 42, 41, 42, 41, 42, 41, 42, 41, 42, 41, 42, 41, 42, 41, 42, 41, 42, 41, 42, 41, 42, 41, 42, 41, 42, 41, 42, 41, 42, 41, 42, 41, 42, 41, 42, 41, 42, 41, 42, 41, 42, 41, 42, 41, 42, 41, 42, 41, 42, 41, 42, 41, 42, 41, 42, 41, 42, 41, 42, 41, 42, 41, 42, 41, 42, 41, 42, 41, 42, 41, 42, 41, 42, 41, 42, 41, 42, 41, 42, 41, 42, 41, 42, I have 5,000 people in my hand watching this all around the world.

01:19:13

Could somebody please call a medic for me?

01:19:18

Just tell them to come to Spelhal.

01:19:20

There’s at least a few people injured.

01:19:21

I’m losing my voice.

01:19:23

We definitely need a medic down here,

01:19:25

so if somebody could please find the number to Berkeley Medics and call them.

01:19:29

They’re being treated over here.

01:19:31

I know they got put off to the side.

01:19:33

I hope they’re getting medical attention.

01:19:35

I’m about to lose my voice, so I’ll keep you guys rolling.

01:19:53

Everybody’s chanting now to stop beating students, but from experience I know that they’ve got their orders and they’re just going to do whatever the hell they please. This is fucking ridiculous. I’m sick of watching these people do this to our citizens every day.

01:20:07

Did you guys please call an ambulance for the person that you just beat up?

01:20:11

Can you please call an ambulance for the person that was just beaten down?

01:20:12

Call the medic, thank you.

01:20:13

All right, thank you.

01:20:16

They’re ignoring me over there, and I’m losing my voice trying to call for one.

01:20:17

Did somebody need help?

01:20:19

No, they were over here a minute ago.

01:20:20

I think they were pulled off to the side. But all those people just looked at me with evil grins.

01:20:24

I know, this doesn’t ever do any good.

01:20:27

But you just have conscience later on.

01:20:30

I put a call out, I got hundreds of people watching live. How are you converting?

01:20:50

How are you converting?

01:20:53

And like I just said, I’ve got several more hours of audio from that night,

01:20:58

but there’s obviously not time to play it all here.

01:21:02

Later on, after the police occupied the steps of the building the

01:21:05

demonstrators were in front of, more people joined the occupiers coming from Occupy San Francisco and

01:21:12

Occupy Oakland right after their GA adjourned. Now, I know that I’ve probably said this way too much

01:21:18

already, but for me, the contrast between the students in California who were demonstrating

01:21:24

about the fact that

01:21:25

tuitions have increased over 30% in the last couple of years,

01:21:29

and that they’re being forced by finances to get out of the state’s higher educational system,

01:21:36

while at the very same time the students in Pennsylvania were demonstrating over the firing of a football coach.

01:21:43

Maybe Timothy Leary was correct when he said that when one flies eastward from California,

01:21:49

that the consciousness of people goes back a hundred years or more for each time zone you fly through.

01:21:54

Makes you think, doesn’t it?

01:21:56

And my sincere apologies to everyone east of California, because I don’t really mean that.

01:22:01

You know that. I hope.

01:22:04

I don’t want to get any more

01:22:05

nasty emails. Now, anyhow, I’ve recorded, I guess, more than 30 hours of interviews and other

01:22:14

soundbites over the past week, but obviously I’m not going to be able to play much of that material

01:22:19

in this podcast. I do have a few more soundbites that I’m going to play in just a minute, however,

01:22:25

but first I’ll just cover the headlines of some of the action that’s been taking place lately,

01:22:31

because I don’t think you’re getting it on the regular evening news. To begin with,

01:22:36

there have been several cities that have begun to use excessive force to attack non-violent

01:22:41

demonstrators in the past few days. In addition to Berkeley, there was another raid in Oakland at 5 a.m. yesterday.

01:22:49

That’s two days ago now. I guess it was Monday.

01:22:52

And there was an overwhelming force of, I guess, almost 1,000 police officers

01:22:56

who were there to remove the 32 occupiers who put up no resistance.

01:23:02

So let’s do the math here.

01:23:04

If it took 1,000 cops to move 32 demonstrators, who put up no resistance. So let’s do the math here.

01:23:07

If it took 1,000 cops to move 32 demonstrators,

01:23:11

then I guess that the reason that the Oakland police or the Portland police backed down on Sunday morning

01:23:13

is because there were only a few hundred police,

01:23:16

and that night, early in the morning,

01:23:18

there were over 5,000 demonstrators.

01:23:20

So using the Oakland cop-to-citizen ratio,

01:23:24

that means that the Portland cops were, well, they were short by 150,000 troopers or so.

01:23:30

Maybe one of the things that the Occupy movement is going to achieve is to bring all of our troops home from the foreign wars we are waging in order to keep peace at home.

01:23:39

And since they won’t be exposed to any danger from the peaceful protesters, it could be a win-win situation. And if you’ve been watching the true news on YouTube, Livestream, and Ustream,

01:23:51

you’ve seen that while our local schools have had to cut their arts programs, the local

01:23:56

police have been buying all kinds of exotic and very expensive weaponry to subdue their

01:24:01

own people. In fact, if you plan on coming to San Diego for the holiday

01:24:05

football events, you know, I think it’s called the Holiday Bowl or something like that,

01:24:09

you may want to be very careful to avoid any of the flash mobs that may come together during that

01:24:15

time. Because you see, the San Diego County Sheriff has just put in an emergency order

01:24:21

for what they call an array of special impact and tactical gas munitions,

01:24:27

including riot control grenades, CS canisters, and liquid ferret, which are essentially bullets

01:24:34

that are fired with chemical agents in them. In other words, the San Diego Sheriff is planning

01:24:39

on using chemical warfare tactics against what has so far been only peaceful demonstrations.

01:24:50

So welcome to sunny San Diego, and as long as you don’t exercise your First Amendment rights,

01:24:52

well, you’ll be fine.

01:24:58

By the way, in case you’re wondering how the cops are able to justify such expensive military hardware,

01:25:04

well, you don’t have to look any farther than their war on people who use non-prescription medicines,

01:25:10

the so-called war on drugs. That’s their main justification for locking us all down in quite an obvious police state that is the gulag America is rapidly becoming.

01:25:17

Now let’s hear from a couple of our fellow slaughters who don’t seem to be as disgusted

01:25:21

with me as the earlier writer. The first one comes from Ken V. who says,

01:25:27

Dear Lorenzo, I’ve been listening to your podcast for about a year or so and I love it.

01:25:31

I’m especially a fan of McKenna as I’m sure many are.

01:25:34

But I am writing to thank you for devoting so much of it to the growing Occupy movement.

01:25:39

This, in my humble opinion, is a step in the right direction for the podcast.

01:25:43

This Occupy movement is so in line with much of what the podcast has been about,

01:25:48

and it is exciting to see these lines converging.

01:25:51

Your coverage has been wonderful, and I just wanted to let you know

01:25:54

that it really gives each show a real dynamic new edge.

01:25:57

Then he goes on to say,

01:25:59

I was one of the people arrested on the Brooklyn Bridge over a month ago.

01:26:03

I’m going to paste the story I wrote about the experience in case you’re interested.

01:26:07

I’m a professional artist and many consider my work psychedelic.

01:26:11

And I’ve occasionally posted my work on your Facebook page.

01:26:14

Thanks for all you’re doing.

01:26:16

And then he sent a link to the story of his arrest, which is on a public Facebook page.

01:26:22

And I’m going to link to it in the program notes here.

01:26:25

It’s really worth reading.

01:26:26

It’s quite a long story.

01:26:28

He almost accidentally got swept up in this whole thing

01:26:32

and wound up being arrested,

01:26:33

and it’s really an amazing story.

01:26:36

I’m just going to read his last, his closing paragraph here,

01:26:40

which he says, and this is from his Facebook page

01:26:43

about the arrest, etc. He says, and this is from his Facebook page about the arrest, etc.

01:26:46

He says,

01:26:47

I want to finish by saying that my night in jail for the Occupy Wall Street movement

01:26:52

was exactly what I had to give.

01:26:54

And what I mean is that I feel very strongly that I gave the bare minimum to this movement.

01:27:00

Many people avoid going down there because they say things to themselves like,

01:27:04

well, I can only go for an hour and that won’t do anything so I’ll just stay home.

01:27:09

This movement never made me feel bad about anything.

01:27:12

It didn’t make me feel bad when I was afraid of being arrested.

01:27:15

They didn’t make me feel like a tourist because I showed up two weeks after many others did.

01:27:20

They were happy I was there and did not judge me for having limits.

01:27:24

My point is, I think so much could be done in this world by people doing the bare minimum.

01:27:29

I have always hated bravado and showiness and people who think that they have to work so hard.

01:27:34

I think a healthy human being ought to struggle for pleasure in some leisure time,

01:27:38

and I sense in this movement a real appreciation of this balance.

01:27:42

So I want to assure you that they are not keeping score down there. I have given my bare minimum and it gave me so much back already. This movement

01:27:51

continues in my sharing this story, in my sharing videos, and my hope. I send all my blessings to

01:27:57

that great diverse group of people who are keeping the Occupy Wall Street experiment alive.

01:28:02

Thank you for a great night. I will be back for more as soon as I can.

01:28:07

Well, thank you for everything, Ken.

01:28:09

And by the way, I really like your art,

01:28:11

and I’ll post a link to both your website and your story about your arrest,

01:28:15

which I personally found very fascinating.

01:28:18

And I truly hope that every one of our fellow Saloners reads your story,

01:28:23

because if they do, they’ll understand how very far from the mark

01:28:27

our unnamed and disgusted salonner was about what’s actually taking place there.

01:28:33

And for what it’s worth, while there are a lot of us who are supporting the movement

01:28:37

in a wide variety of ways, you guys who are on the front lines,

01:28:41

you know, quite literally putting your bodies on the line,

01:28:44

well, you’re all my heroes, and I don’t say that lightly.

01:28:48

Another heroic fellow salonner is Revelyn Jay, who is not only an active occupier,

01:28:55

he’s also a supporter and donor to the salon and is on the front lines in Vancouver.

01:29:00

And here’s a message that he sent to his family and close friends in which he gives a very clear picture of what is taking place on the ground in one of the Occupy sites.

01:29:12

He says,

01:29:13

Update. Many people have left our camp. More have joined.

01:29:18

There’s a split because the original reasons that brought 5,000 people to downtown Vancouver on that first day

01:29:24

are not the same reasons that compel 100 or so to downtown Vancouver on that first day are not the same

01:29:25

reasons that compel a hundred or so to continue sleeping and living in a courtyard surrounded by

01:29:30

sky-high centers of finance and commerce. The camp has become a symbol for homelessness,

01:29:36

apathy, and desperation for people watching it from the outside, mostly on TV. For us who live

01:29:41

within, it is hope, progress, a place to get food, attention, care, to rest, to sleep, and to be surrounded by people who love you and who are looking out for you.

01:29:54

Some of us want to take our dome building project, of which we have built six so far, out to the empty lots around the city.

01:30:05

lots around the city. After preparing the materials, we are able to put up a geodesic dome frame in 20 minutes, covered in tarps in under an hour, and provide a structure to house

01:30:11

six to ten people in a communal fashion, sharing their life and body heat with each other.

01:30:16

It’s going to be a cold winter, and we might have found a way that everyone can get through

01:30:21

it comfortably. We would also set up kitchens like our own Food Not Bombs kitchen, which is now serving around 900 meals a day to both campers and passers-by.

01:30:32

Now we just have to convince the city government and the mostly uninformed populace of Vancouver

01:30:37

to support us in providing this kind of safe, low-cost communal housing. How is the Occupy in

01:30:44

your city going? I know some have

01:30:46

been shut down and some, like us, are just on the verge of city police rushing in and attempting to

01:30:51

scatter us to the wind. Are you visiting your camp often, speaking to people, becoming familiar with

01:30:57

what they want, what they need? I’m working in a donations tent and blankets, socks, and gloves are

01:31:02

by far the most requested items that we usually run out of very quickly.

01:31:07

Have you taken part in a political discussion?

01:31:09

Specifically with one person or another?

01:31:11

Something small?

01:31:12

Something personal?

01:31:14

These kind of talks keep me coming back day after day, each time learning a little bit more about what democracy actually means.

01:31:20

A demonstrating body.

01:31:23

An action of the people.

01:31:47

By the people. Thank you. then it’s not democracy, and we’re not free, nor are we taking responsibility for our own lives,

01:31:49

regardless of the form of government.

01:31:54

I hope everyone gets a chance to exercise their right to live and let live.

01:32:00

And that, I believe, is the true essence of the Occupy movement.

01:32:03

Let me read Revlin’s last line again. He says, I hope everyone gets a chance to exercise their right to live and let live.

01:32:10

It’s really as simple as that.

01:32:12

All we have to do is work out a few details, huh?

01:32:16

Which, of course, is going to take a decade or more,

01:32:19

but at least the Freedom Train has at long last left the station.

01:32:24

Now the final Occupy story I want to cover this week is the one from Portland, Oregon this past weekend.

01:32:30

As you know, after five very difficult weeks of encampment in Portland,

01:32:35

the original camping site has been swept clean by the police,

01:32:38

and now the lovely city of Portland has its nice downtown parks surrounded by fences and are off limits to the citizens. To me, downtown Portland now looks like they’ve kind of built a new kind of

01:32:51

zoo where they keep fences around the grass and trees as if they were too dangerous for people

01:32:55

to get near. Really quite foolish if you ask me. Anyhow, on Sunday night, after the last few hundred

01:33:03

people were forced out of the downtown parks,

01:33:06

they simply regrouped and began discussing where they were going to move to for their new encampment.

01:33:11

You know, it’s really quite humorous, as long as you aren’t the one getting clubbed by a cop,

01:33:16

because it’s very much like that carnival game called Whack-A-Mole.

01:33:21

And if you’ve ever played that game, you know that the moles always win.

01:33:25

So, Occupy Portland hasn’t caved, as some in the chat room were saying. They simply are regrouping.

01:33:32

And here is where some of the experienced people from the 60s came in handy, because

01:33:36

one of the big lessons learned in the 60s is that you should never go up against a dumb guy who has

01:33:42

a gun. And that is where the Portland demonstrators shone like stars.

01:33:47

They pushed the police right up to the limit,

01:33:49

and then after hours of a Sunday afternoon standoff,

01:33:53

they let the cops go home and rest for a bit,

01:33:55

which I thought was very considerate of the demonstrators.

01:33:58

So now, rather than just me telling you about what went down in Portland,

01:34:03

I’m going to play a little audio collage from some of the recordings of the live streams

01:34:08

that I made from Occupy Portland events over the weekend.

01:34:12

And what you’re about to hear is just a few minutes that have been extracted

01:34:15

from over 16 hours of recordings that I did over a two-day period.

01:34:19

So as you listen to it, please keep in mind that there’s actually, oh,

01:34:24

30 minutes to an hour sometimes between some of these speakers,

01:34:28

and even more in some cases.

01:34:30

If this were a video, you would be seeing it in fast forward.

01:34:33

So I’m going to take you from the General Assembly conversations around 9 p.m. Saturday night,

01:34:40

then to around 2.30 a.m., by which time there were literally thousands and thousands of

01:34:46

people who showed up to support the occupiers. And reports vary, but reliable estimates range

01:34:53

between 5,000 and 8,000 people. And that’s a truly huge crowd to turn out late at night with

01:34:59

no previous notice or planning. And eventually the police realized that there were just too many people

01:35:06

there to do anything about it. And so during the night, the cops backed down. But the next day was

01:35:11

a standoff that lasted until around seven or eight at night, at which time the demonstrators

01:35:16

held a general assembly, voted, left the immediate area after first making some plans on when and where to meet the next day.

01:35:26

And as I said, it’s like a game of whack-a-mole.

01:35:29

And these aggressive police forces are going to soon learn that

01:35:33

by continuing to send a military-sized troop to arrest six people,

01:35:38

that, well, they’re going to run out of money, among other things,

01:35:40

and the people of Portland have proven beyond any doubt

01:35:44

that the Occupy

01:35:45

movement is going to be a fact of life for the indefinite future. So you might as well get used

01:35:50

to it, or better yet, get involved. Now here’s a fast forward version of what went down in Portland

01:35:56

over the weekend, and I should add that the mayor of Oakland has confirmed that she coordinated her

01:36:02

attacks on demonstrators with the mayors of 18 other cities over the weekend and right in through today.

01:36:09

And that’s why there have been so many police crackdowns this weekend.

01:36:13

You know, it looks like the one percenters are starting to get worried

01:36:16

and are trying to figure out how to subdue 300 million people

01:36:19

with only about one million cops.

01:36:23

It’s going to be a tricky whack-a-mole problem, isn’t it?

01:36:27

Anyway, here are some soundbites from Occupy Portland over the weekend.

01:36:34

Hi, everyone.

01:36:36

Our group overwhelmingly brought forth constructive, nonviolent approaches for Saturday.

01:36:42

In particular, doing outreach to the community, the rest of the 99%,

01:36:47

to join us at an event on Saturday to increase our numbers in a show of solidarity

01:36:52

and also so we can continue the discussion we’ve been having for five weeks.

01:36:57

The various ways that could be produced would be through a potluck, a job fair,

01:37:02

any sort of community event, and asking people also if they’re unable

01:37:06

to attend to do a public demonstration in their communities at a similar time.

01:37:11

We also would like to address and create a political statement specific to Saturday that

01:37:16

addresses Sam Adams’ concerns about crime and poverty and the ways in which arresting

01:37:21

people is not a constructive way to deal with those issues.

01:37:34

Hello. Our group is over there, and I don’t think we had anything new to add to this list.

01:37:38

I think there’s a lot of consensus going on, but the first thing in regards to the tone,

01:37:43

I think we decided in consensus that we really want a celebratory feel,

01:37:45

because it’ll be a moment of truth and for far too long the media has had a control of our narrative.

01:37:50

They’ve been telling the public who we are,

01:37:54

what we’re about,

01:37:55

and I think our group decided that this will be a day

01:37:58

for us to take that back.

01:38:02

It’ll be an opportunity,

01:38:04

so ideas about anything related to celebratory nature

01:38:08

that can set a positive tone, not just nonviolence, but beyond nonviolence, right?

01:38:13

The fact that it’s not a stagnant process, so activity, right?

01:38:18

The idea that we’re moving and we’re a community,

01:38:20

and making it as friendly to the community and making it as large as possible would be really helpful in this process and setting the tone for that

01:38:28

narrative. Hi there, so our group talked about a lot of things that have already

01:38:34

been covered so I’m not going to recover those but the one that I haven’t seen so

01:38:38

far that we talked about extensively was to be prepared and that means taking

01:38:44

personal responsibility

01:38:45

to have things that you might need on that night, like first aid supplies,

01:38:50

like goggles, like a handkerchief, like apple cider vinegar,

01:38:55

things that will protect you, a helmet,

01:38:58

things that will protect you against chemical agents,

01:39:00

and just to stay safe and to help your friends and partners and everybody else here stay safe as well.

01:39:07

So just taking personal responsibility and having some first aid supplies and things on hand.

01:39:16

We’ve been in this park for a long time.

01:39:19

We live like a tribal community.

01:39:21

And way back in the day, tribal communities were nomadic.

01:39:25

And there was a good reason they were nomadic, so that they didn’t do damage to the environment.

01:39:30

The longer that people stay in this park the more damage will be done to the park but that

01:39:37

doesn’t mean that if we move or go somewhere else that we disbanded or that we stopped doing what we’re doing.

01:39:45

And if for any reason we can’t hold the park and can’t be in it, I, for one, highly suggest,

01:39:52

since it’s so close and everybody’s already talked about it so much, that at least one

01:39:57

of those splinter groups takes the waterfront.

01:40:09

So we have the idea of one of the splinter groups taking the waterfront, waterfront park.

01:40:11

How do people feel about that?

01:40:15

Was there another idea that I, was that the main one?

01:40:18

Okay, great.

01:40:20

So last report back.

01:40:21

Okay, there’s one more after that.

01:40:27

It is 2.30 in the morning.

01:40:34

Well, no, technically the park is not going to reopen until they decide it will reopen.

01:40:36

The crowd on the other side has been down a lot.

01:40:37

Yeah, it has been down a lot.

01:40:38

That’s a very good point.

01:40:42

So technically, even if we last until the time the park opens in the morning,

01:40:43

they’ll probably be open in the morning. Oh, yeah.

01:40:45

So I want to stress,

01:40:48

I want to state my gratitude

01:40:51

to the people of Portland

01:40:52

for showing up in mass numbers,

01:40:54

the people of Seattle,

01:40:55

the people of Oakland,

01:40:56

the people from wherever they came from.

01:40:58

Thank you so much.

01:41:00

This is what we needed tonight.

01:41:01

And you showed up.

01:41:04

Portland definitely showed up tonight.

01:41:06

And then some.

01:41:08

And then some.

01:41:12

So for those of you who haven’t been here this whole time,

01:41:16

we actually had five mounted cops trying to push back our line up Main Street,

01:41:21

west of Main Street towards the Elk Fountain.

01:41:26

They were unsuccessful.

01:41:31

We then occupied the intersection of 3rd and Main and then pushed the police all the way back down to Madison.

01:41:35

Do a shout out to the police because they could have put us.

01:41:37

Yeah, actually, big shout out to the police. The police have shown a lot of restraint as

01:41:42

well today and that’s good. All sides should be showing a lot of restraint as well today, and that’s good. All sides of the country are showing a lot of restraint because we are all part of the 99%,

01:41:48

and they are getting their orders from people who aren’t.

01:41:51

Some mainstream media is snaking through the crowd.

01:41:53

Please report on us fairly.

01:41:55

Please tell everyone how peaceful this protest has been.

01:42:00

I don’t think it was coined.

01:42:03

Slithering through the crowd.

01:42:04

Stay here. do your job!

01:42:08

Take off your riot suit, you’re sexy, you’re cute.

01:42:11

Take off your riot suit, you’re sexy, you’re cute.

01:42:15

Take off your riot suit, you’re sexy, you’re cute.

01:42:19

Take off your riot suit, you’re sexy, you’re cute.

01:42:22

This is the Portland Police Bureau.

01:42:24

Under authority of Oregon law, Southwest Main Street is being reopened to vehicular traffic.

01:42:31

You must immediately vacate the roadway and proceed to the sidewalk.

01:42:36

If you remain in the roadway and show the intent to engage in physical resistance to removal,

01:42:41

or if emergency circumstances require, you may be subject to the use of

01:42:46

force, including chemical agents and impact weapons.

01:42:50

If you remain in the roadway, you may be subject to arrest for disorderly conduct and other

01:42:55

state and city offenses.

01:42:57

Please move to the west on the sidewalk immediately.

01:43:01

Thank you.

01:43:02

Thank you.

01:43:01

immediately. Thank you.

01:43:07

I could actually go on for hours just about the Portland occupation,

01:43:10

but last night,

01:43:12

and right now it’s Tuesday, and so last night

01:43:14

as I was finishing the editing

01:43:16

of the Portland action, and just

01:43:18

before I was going to go to bed, I did a quick

01:43:20

check of the live video feeds and

01:43:22

discovered that the New York police

01:43:23

had just begun a raid on

01:43:25

Liberty Square in New York City. And they were beginning to evict the occupiers, arresting many

01:43:31

of them and destroying the personal possessions of the entire camp. You know, the cops in some

01:43:37

instances wouldn’t even let occupiers who were peacefully trying to leave the park take any of

01:43:41

their personal items out. And so hundreds of cell phones, laptops, cameras, and the library of over 5,000 books

01:43:49

were all thrown into trash bins and hauled off to a landfill somewhere.

01:43:53

Now, my intention this morning was to include some of the New York action from last night,

01:43:58

but it’s still very much underway.

01:44:01

And so in order to get this podcast out and not have it any longer than it already is,

01:44:07

I’ve decided to cover the current New York action

01:44:09

in my next podcast,

01:44:11

which I’ll have begun working on

01:44:13

by the time you’re hearing this.

01:44:15

But as I’m sure you already know,

01:44:17

the occupiers in Occupy Wall Street in New York

01:44:20

did lose their court case,

01:44:22

and so their occupation has been modified,

01:44:25

and the New York police are now occupying the park for them.

01:44:28

I guess they’re waiting for another mole to pop up.

01:44:31

And you can bet your last dollar that it won’t be long before that happens.

01:44:35

In fact, just as the court ruling came in this evening,

01:44:38

the students at Berkeley had picked up the baton,

01:44:41

and the live stream action shifted to the West Coast for a bit.

01:44:46

But there is one last thing that I want to mention, and it’s a feel-good moment, and it’s about someone who I’m thinking of

01:44:52

as last week’s Hero of the Week, and there were literally thousands of them, thousands of people

01:44:58

to choose from, but my vote goes to Makana, a young singer from Hawaii. And by now I’m sure that you’ve already heard about him.

01:45:07

However, his story bears repeating once more.

01:45:11

Last Saturday night, there was a private dinner held in Hawaii for the heads of state of the 20 or so nations who make up APAC,

01:45:20

the Asian Pacific Economic Cooperation League, or something like that.

01:45:24

So, picture a small room with only four big round tables in it.

01:45:29

And to have a seat at one of those tables, you had to either be a political, the actual leader of a country or their spouse.

01:45:37

So now at those tables, picture this. Obama and his wife, and also the leaders and their wives or husbands of Canada, Australia,

01:45:47

Indonesia, Japan, Mexico, Chile, and more than a dozen other countries.

01:45:53

And they’re all having a quiet little dinner, and they are being entertained by a young

01:45:59

man who played for an hour and a half before he opened up his jacket to reveal a t-shirt

01:46:04

that read,

01:46:12

Occupy with Aloha. And then he began to sing a song that he wrote, and it’s titled, We Are the Many. And some of the lyrics included, Ye come here, gather round the stage, the

01:46:18

time has come for us to voice our rage. And other lyrics included, We’ll occupy the streets, we’ll occupy the courts,

01:46:27

we’ll occupy the offices of you,

01:46:29

till you do the bidding of the many, not the few.

01:46:32

And he sang it over and over and over for 45 minutes.

01:46:38

Now, I’m going to play a two-minute clip of him telling how it went down,

01:46:43

and then I’ll follow that with a studio version of the song.

01:46:48

However, it’ll really be worth your time to watch that first video,

01:46:51

which I’ll link to in the program notes for this podcast,

01:46:54

which you know you can find via psychedelicsalon.us.

01:46:58

And in that video, you can see these world leaders in the background,

01:47:01

at least one of whom seems to be saying,

01:47:04

what the fuck is he singing?

01:47:06

So it’s a classic.

01:47:08

You really ought to see it.

01:47:09

Anyway, let’s now hear the audio from that little short video where the person I now

01:47:15

call Manica the Mighty, as he personally occupied a world leader’s private dinner, and then

01:47:22

gets right in their faces without even being arrested or even escorted out of the room. It’s truly a remarkable moment.

01:47:30

So I just came from playing the world leaders’ dinner at APEC here in Honolulu for the Obamas

01:47:37

and I guess 19 or 20 other world leaders. So I showed up and did my gig.

01:47:45

And I started to look around and I thought about the song I

01:47:48

just wrote called We Are the Many.

01:47:55

And it was an incredible experience to sing the words,

01:47:59

those words, to that room of people.

01:48:16

And I didn’t belt it out, I started out very subtly and subliminally, and I was like Ye come here, gather round the stage

01:48:19

Time has come for us to voice our rage

01:48:23

Did he just say what I think he said? And then I realized that,

01:48:26

wow, I didn’t get in trouble. So I played it again and I made like a different version of it.

01:48:32

I ended up playing it for about 45 minutes. To be able to sing that there was an epic feeling.

01:48:38

It felt right. My uncle always told me, play what’s in your heart and play to the audience, you know, play what you feel is right for them.

01:48:48

That’s what I did.

01:48:50

And I found it odd that I was afraid to do it at first.

01:48:53

I found that disturbing. That’s kind of why I did it.

01:48:55

I didn’t like the idea of being afraid to sing a song that I created.

01:49:00

I’ve never in my life been afraid to sing anything. If that’s what we’ve come to in the world,

01:49:06

where we’re afraid to say certain things

01:49:09

in the company of certain people,

01:49:11

I think that’s a dangerous place to be.

01:49:13

And so for me to move out of that space,

01:49:16

I had to sing the song.

01:49:19

And that’s what I did. I love you.

01:49:42

You come here and gather round the stage.

01:49:47

The time has come for us to voice our rage Against the ones who’ve trapped us in a cage

01:49:52

To steal from us the value of our wage

01:49:57

From underneath the vestiture of law

01:50:03

The lobbyists at Washington do not

01:50:08

At liberty the bureaucrats guffaw

01:50:13

And until they are purged we won’t withdraw

01:50:19

We’ll occupy the streets

01:50:23

We’ll occupy the streets, we’ll occupy the courts, we’ll occupy the offices of you till you do.

01:50:33

The bidding of the many, not the few.

01:50:51

Our nation was built upon the rights Of every person to improve their plight

01:50:56

The laws of this republic they rewrite

01:51:02

And now a few own

01:51:05

everything in sight

01:51:07

they own it free of liability

01:51:12

they own but they are not like you and me

01:51:18

their influence dictates legality

01:51:23

and until they are stopped we are not free Their influence dictates legality.

01:51:29

And until they are stopped, we are not free.

01:51:33

We’ll occupy the streets.

01:51:36

We’ll occupy the courts. We’ll occupy the offices of you.

01:51:42

Till you do.

01:51:48

The bidding of the many, not the few You enforce your monopolies with guns

01:52:02

While sacrificing our daughters and sons

01:52:08

But certain things belong to everyone

01:52:13

Your thievery has left the people none

01:52:18

So take heed of our notice to redress.

01:52:30

We had little to lose, we must confess.

01:52:35

Your empty words do leave us unimpressed.

01:52:40

A growing number join us in protest.

01:52:45

We occupy the streets. We occupy the courts.

01:52:48

We occupy the offices of you.

01:52:53

Till you do.

01:52:56

The bidding of the many, not the few. You can’t divide us in two sides

01:53:13

And from our gaze you cannot hide

01:53:19

Denial serves to amplify

01:53:24

Denial serves to amplify And our allegiance you can’t buy

01:53:30

Our government is not for sale

01:53:36

The banks do not deserve a bail

01:53:43

We will not reward those

01:53:46

who fail

01:53:47

We will not move till we prevail

01:53:52

We’ll occupy the streets

01:53:56

We’ll occupy

01:53:58

the courts

01:53:59

We’ll occupy the

01:54:01

offices of you

01:54:04

till you do till you do.

01:54:08

The bidding of the many, not the few.

01:54:13

We’ll occupy the streets.

01:54:16

We’ll occupy the courts.

01:54:19

We’ll occupy the offices of you till you do the bidding of the many not the few

01:54:31

we are the many

01:54:35

you are the few I think that Makana may have come up with a good anthem for the movement,

01:54:55

which goes very nicely with the anonymous chant of,

01:54:59

We are Legion. We do not forget. we do not forgive, expect us.

01:55:06

And for now, this is Lorenzo, signing off from Cyberdelic Space.

01:55:11

Be well, my friends.