Program Notes

Guest speaker: Dr. Timothy Leary

[NOTE: All quotations below are by Dr. Timothy Leary.]

“We represent the aristocratic, exploring elite of our species, and we always have.”

“The purpose of human life is to go within and find out who you are. The purpose of human life is to grow.”

“American history is filled with people who knew how to use drugs intelligently.”

“He [William James] later wrote the book “Varieties of Religious Experience”, in which he said over and over again, no attempt at the metaphysical quest, no attempt to probe the philosophic wonders of the cosmos can be undertaken by those who don’t have some experience with chemicals. In his case it was peyote and nitrous oxide.”

“The ‘original’ sin was the intelligent use of drugs in the garden of Eden.”

“The problem with drugs is that stupid people use drugs stupidly.”

“As more and more people learn how to use drugs intelligently in the next twenty years, and get back to their microscopes and DNA mock-ups, we may have some more information on exactly how evolution got started.”

“All of you in this room have experienced more realities, more crisis, more of life, you’ve seen more than the wisest sultans and philosophers in the past.”

“The generation you belong to is of key importance.”

“Nobody died for my sins, man. I did my time for ‘em.”

“Let me give you an example of set and setting. If you take LSD under the following conditions: you’ve just escaped from prison where they want to put you in the gas chamber, and you find yourself in a hotel in Palm Springs where the FBI is having its local convention, that is bad set and bad setting.”

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Greetings from cyberdelic space.

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This is Lorenzo, and I’m your host here in the psychedelic salon.

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And I think you’re going to enjoy today’s presentation.

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It’s a talk that Tim Leary gave back in 1982.

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And I’ll tell you about that in just a minute.

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But first, I want to take the time to thank two of our fellow salonners who have made donations in the past week

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to help offset some of the expenses associated with producing these podcasts.

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And these two kind souls are Christopher S. and Jeff M.

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And I thank you both for your kind support. You guys rock.

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Now, there are a couple things I want to mention later on, but first let’s get right into today’s talk.

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As I mentioned, it is by Dr. Timothy Leary, and it was given back in 1982. Thank you. Shulgin and Terrence McKenna gave the talks that I podcasted my 100th podcast.

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And that was also the conference where Dr. Andrew Weil gave his presentation that I published

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in podcast number 103.

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So I asked my wife, who was actually at that conference, if she remembered hearing Tim

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Leary’s talk, and she said, yeah, I thought he was, I think he was there, but her main memory

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turns out to be that of Terrence McKenna, who Dr. Leary doesn’t mention in this talk,

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probably because that was Terrence’s first big gig, and not too many people knew who

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he was at the time.

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Now, while Dr. Leary titled this talk, The Intelligent Use of Psychedelic Drugs, I think

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an equally appropriate title could be

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A History of the Tribe. As we listen to him talk about the positive potential he sees for the

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baby boomer generation when he gave this talk back in 1982, you may find it interesting to

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consider how they are actually turning out. It seems to me that they may have just bankrupted the country.

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Well done, boomers.

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As the song says,

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nobody does it better.

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So, now let’s join

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Dr. Timothy Leary, who

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I think was still on parole at the time

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this was given.

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He was released early

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from a 20-year prison sentence

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for possessing less than a half an ounce of cannabis.

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And if that sounds a bit harsh to you, it’s because you may not be fully aware of the fact that those kinds of sentences were being handed out to a significant number of people.

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States like Texas, for example, where I used to practice law, were still handing out life sentences for a positive cannabis test in 1990.

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In fact, I believe that poor Tyrone Brown is still in a Texas prison for a minor cannabis infraction.

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Of course, he’s black, which is almost still a crime in some parts of the South.

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But enough of my preaching to the choir.

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Let’s get on with the program,

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and I’ll be back after we listen to

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Dr. Timothy Leary speaking about

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the intelligent use of psychedelic drugs

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Tim’s going to be speaking on

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intelligent uses of psychedelic drugs

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here’s Tim Leary.

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Oh, thank you, thank you.

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Thank you. Thank you.

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Thank you.

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How about that, huh?

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Well, I think it is fantastic that we’re here tonight.

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You know, it’s 1982.

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This is the year of doom and gloom, isn’t it?

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And here we have assembled on the banks of the Pacific Ocean with Venus burning a golden hole in the velvet sky up there.

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The moon’s almost full.

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And we’ve assembled to discuss the intelligent sky up there. The moon’s almost full. And we’ve assembled to discuss

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the intelligent use of drugs.

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I think the world should take note.

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I think you should applaud yourself for being here.

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How about that, huh?

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Huh?

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The key to evolution in any species is swarming.

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And we’ve got enough intelligent members of any species together to decide they’re going to move in one direction into the future.

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It’s going to happen, so the more swarms like this, the better.

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Now, we are not alone tonight,

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because behind us and in front of us, there

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are many generations of intelligent women and men who I’ve met throughout the centuries

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to discuss what we’re going to talk about tonight, the intelligent use of drugs or how

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to access your brain efficiently to help yourself develop. Now, you know, people like us sometimes get a bad reputation

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In places like Iran or Judeo-Christian America and so forth

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Sometimes, you know, we’re led to believe that we’re not somehow straight arrow

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So I want you to remember and recall what you know anyway

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When you walk out of here tonight with your shoulders back and your eyes looking up to that beautiful star-filled sky

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that we represent the aristocratic exploring elite of our species, and we always have.

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Because we’re all united here on the eternal quest of inner exploration, discovery, the adventure of knowing yourself, of stimulating growth, personal evolution, and so on.

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It started, what, 2, 3, 4,000 years ago back in the banks of the Ganges when, perhaps for the first time in recorded history, women and men got together and said, hey, there’s more than just the caste system, there’s more than just survival, root animal existence.

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The purpose of human life

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is to go within and find out who you are.

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The purpose of human life is to grow.

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The Sanskrit word,

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as Andre tells us in that funny movie,

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the Sanskrit word for to be is to grow.

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Back there in the Ganges

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several thousand years ago,

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this idea developed.

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And, you know,

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the first recorded book

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of human development,

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of human religion,

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for that matter,

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are the Vedas.

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And the first book of the Vedas

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is a hymn

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in homage of Soma.

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And you all know what Soma is.

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Then we popped up again.

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Well, I could go on forever

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telling us about how great

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we are in the past. We popped up again in Athens, I could go on forever telling us about how great we are in the past.

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We popped up again in Athens.

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You remember that wonderful time in Athens?

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That was a hippie time

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when everyone went running around saying,

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I’m a philosopher.

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It’s up to me to figure out, you know,

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what are the elements

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or what life is all about.

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You remember Socrates said the purpose of an intelligent human life is self-discovery. Now, how come that funny little peninsula there, yet Sparta

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a few miles away, like San Luis Obispo, which was given over to military engineering. Sparta’s Gordon Liddy’s sort of town.

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How come places like Athens and Santa Barbara

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pop up now and then in human history

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where people have the courage and the ambition

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to pose these basic questions?

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Well, just north of Athens is a place called Eleusis.

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And you well know the Eleusinian Mysteries

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for hundreds and hundreds of years.

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We practiced there.

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Plato, Aristotle,

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most of those great philosophers

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went through the mysteries there.

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And recently, drug ethologists

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and scholars like Robert Gordon Watson and Lagra

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have told us that the key to the Eleusinian Mysteries

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was a ceremonial plant,

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which is probably related to LSD.

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Now, we popped up out history in France.

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The Hashishins, Baudelaire, Gautier, Verlin.

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We popped up in England, Wordsworth, Colleridge, Nietzsche.

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Nietzsche was over there in Germany you know he was very sickly

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they used to say when you went to see Nietzsche

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it was like going into a drugstore

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I wonder why he got all those crazy ideas

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now you’re never going to read about the history

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you’re never going to read about the history

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of brain exploration in the textbooks in institutions like this, tax-supported, run by academic

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politicians to keep young people serenely and productively stupid.

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You have to, you know, it’s an intelligence test. If you want to get smart, you have to learn how to get smart.

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You have to look through history, and you’ll find the fingerprints, the footprints,

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the vapor trails of people like us who have been doing what we’re doing here tonight,

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trying to learn how to grow and develop and make it a better planet.

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You know, American history is filled with people who knew how to use drugs intelligently.

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Robert Louis Stevenson, Edgar Allan Poe.

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You know, Edgar Allan Poe was actually considered in Europe to be the ultimate North American

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writer, much more famous there than here.

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Coming from Harvard, as I used to

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it was a source of great amusement

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to realize that

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Ralph Waldo Emerson

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who really started

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the American Transcendental Movement

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who got kicked out of Harvard

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I think it was 1838

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because he went there and said

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don’t go to those

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big Unitarian

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and Presbyterian churches

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in Boston

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you’re going to find God within

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transcend this outer stuff

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they didn’t want him around.

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They kept him away for 38 years.

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How come he got that way?

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Well, it turned out that he, along with Margaret Fuller,

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our first great feminist woman,

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had gone over to Europe and hung out with the Wordsworths

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and the Hashishins in Paris.

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And we have well-documented stories

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of how they turned on intelligently to pursue

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the philosophic quest. My favorite Harvard intellectual is a man named William James,

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who actually founded the psychology department there. He’s considered to be the father of

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American psychology. At the age of 13, according to his brother Henry’s memoirs, William James was in France.

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Now talk about teenage punks.

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At the age of 13, William James, coming from one of our top Brahmin Boston families,

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was experimenting with all sorts of curious and strange brain drugs in France.

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He later wrote the book Varieties of Literature Experience,

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in which he said over and over again no attempt

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at the metaphysical quest

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no attempt to probe

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the philosophic wonders

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of the cosmos

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can be undertaken

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by those that don’t

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have some experience

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with chemicals

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in his case

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it was peyote

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nitrous oxide

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not to mention

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a man that I admire so much that you just heard talking here

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has just told us about the role of Harvard University and the CIA in the non-intelligent use of drugs.

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So, as I speak tonight and as we confer here tonight, we are not alone.

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This tradition of interquest has always been a little on the outs

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because the power holders, the politicians, the kings, the generals, the bishops, the popes,

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one thing they’re all agreed on,

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they don’t want human beings learning how to access their own brains.

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Because if they do that, self-reward, self-growth, self-development

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takes the place of slavery for the hive.

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Now, this was first brought to my attention in 1961

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by one of my great teachers,

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Alice Huxley,

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who came to join us at Harvard then.

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I remember one night,

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one night,

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during actually it was a psilocybin session,

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when I was kind of complaining to Alice Oxley

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about the slowness of the American public

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to catch on to the fact

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that you can access and activate your own brain.

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And Alice said,

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well, you must realize, Timothy,

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that the religion of this country

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is totally based upon opposition to drugs.

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I said, what do you mean?

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He said, well, haven’t you read the Bible?

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I said, no, there’s nothing about drugs in the Bible.

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He said, well, you should go back and read it again.

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Don’t you remember Genesis?

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The first book of the Bible?

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Jehovah?

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You know, he’s an old shepherd,

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Semitic, macho,

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mafia, condominium owner.

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Jehovah, just out of the hunter-gatherer stage, early paleolithic God.

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You know, looks around and said to Adam and Eve,

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Hey, this is my home and I’m going to let you live in this wonderful Garden of Eden.

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Do whatever you want.

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Except there are a couple of food and drug regulations.

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See this tree here?

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The fruit of this is a controlled substance.

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And you are forbidden by law to ingest, absorb, or in any way taste of this.

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Because if you do, the blinds will fall from your eyes.

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And you’ll see through good and evil and become a god like me.

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You don’t want to do that.

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Adam said, no, sir.

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See the fruit of this tree over here?

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There’s also a controlled substance.

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Because if you eat of this, you will become immortal and a god like me.

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You don’t want to do that, do you?

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Of course, Adam said,

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no, sir.

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Now, I was very curious

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about most of the organized

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political associations

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and the great, great monolithic,

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monotheistic power religions.

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They are all very male-oriented

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and they’re not very friendly

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to the female sex.

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You know, Christianity is not very friendly to the female sex. You know, Christianity

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is not very flattering to women.

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They lay all the blame on Eve, remember?

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That as soon as Jehovah

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had jumped in his squad car

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and gone back to headquarters,

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it was that naughty,

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hip-wiggling Eve

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that led poor straight-arrow Adam, Adam, you’ve got to try this.

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It gets kind of comic, you know, the sirens come and the first narcotics bust in history

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is Jehovah.

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So, Aldous Huxley continued you see that

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what’s Christianity all about

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well

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the only son of Jehovah

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Ralph came down here

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to sacrifice his life

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for our original sin

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oh yeah

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what was our original sin

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oh the original sin

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was the one in the garden

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I see

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the original sin was the intelligent use of drugs in the Garden of Eden.

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Now, this is not going to be easy, Timothy.

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Now, you know, believe it or not, I’ve come here tonight loaded with scientific and technological information to discuss the intelligent use of drugs.

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But after listening to John’s talk

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and this incredible rapport with the audience,

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I realized that most everyone in this audience

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is using drugs more intelligently than I am tonight.

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So, I’m in a bad position here.

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Well, I’m…

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So, I’m in a bad position here. Well, I’m…

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Odorless, colorless local water.

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Anyway, yes.

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Berkeley.

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Right.

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I’m with you. Robert Anton Wilson intended to give a list.

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Why don’t I do it anyway?

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Let’s have a little fun here tonight.

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We belong to such an incredible gathering.

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I listed all these historic people

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like Nietzsche and Plato,

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but listen, in our lifetime,

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we’ve seen some incredible people

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come through Richard Alpert,

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Baba Ram Dass.

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How about a round of applause for him?

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Yeah, man.

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And Ken Kesey, huh?

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And Alan Ginsberg.

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One of the greatest

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who’s not here with us at the moment,

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but we’ll meet him somewhere along the line.

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John Lennon, right.

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I was going to include him,

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but I was also going to mention

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someone who’s much less known than John Lennon,

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probably the most underestimated philosopher of our time, Alan Watts.

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How about him?

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Well, enough of this stroking of each other.

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Let’s get down to business.

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The intelligent use of drugs.

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Well, let me define my terms.

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First of all, when we talk about drugs, I’m not talking about the intelligent use of Rolaid.

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Or the new wonder drug that’s going to cure dread herpes, too.

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We’re talking about drugs that affect the brain.

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So at this moment, I think I should introduce a commercial

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It’s a 40 billion cell biocomputer.

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And I’m told by my turned-on computer friends

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that probably every neuron of the 40 billion

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is as complex as the most powerful computer

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that IBM has yet developed.

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So we’re talking about, you know, we’re talking about real stuff here, and we talk about the

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human brain.

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Now, anything about the human brain, there’s a secret about this incredible organ of intelligence

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and pleasure.

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The secret is this.

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We are not taught that the human brain is perfect

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unless you have a

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steel plate in your head

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or less than two inches

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of forehead

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you’re carrying around

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a perfect instrument

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to perform the human function

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now look at that

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little bird brain

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you know the little bird

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little bird brain that little bird brain. You know the little bird? Little bird brain?

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That little bird brain

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can take that little fella

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from Vancouver,

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6,000 miles down

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to Guatemala,

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uncharted, you know,

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without any roadmaps.

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Can land on a branch there

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in a scale of 50 miles an hour

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on those two little feet

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exactly where she or he’s

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supposed to be

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to get it on.

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Now, that’s something, huh? The tiny little the tiny little they’re working with what about 10 million of the little neurons we got

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40 billion of them now um well if the human brain so perfect man how come we get ayatollah

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or how come we get Ayatollah?

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Or how come we get Ronald Reagan?

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Well, listen, the Ayatollah is perfect.

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Ronnie’s brain is perfect.

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It was just that early imprinting that fucked them up.

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Because this brain is a computer,

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you know,

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you can only get out of the computer what you program it for.

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And you just get to a computer

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and you punch in,

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you know,

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you know,

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Ronnie Reagan,

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you know,

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rah-rah Iowa,

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you know, rah Iowa you know rah rah

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Air Force Army

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yeah

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rah rah

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World War III

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boy

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rah rah

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oil companies

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yeah

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you’re not going to get

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a very interesting

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program out of that

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computer

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now

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as a corollary I submit to you that all drugs are perfect too. Now,

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sure, drugs can be used stupidly. As a matter of fact, that’s probably the key

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to my address to you tonight, my dear friends. The problem with drugs is that stupid

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people use drugs stupidly. Coarse, crude, vulgar people use drugs in a vulgar way. On

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the other hand intelligent thoughtful adventurous

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you know

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serious minded people

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that want to have a lot of fun

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are going to use drugs intelligently

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and of course

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that’s what’s happening

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quietly and visibly

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without many

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you know

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you don’t go around

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with a big

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you know

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honk

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if you use drugs intelligently.

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Like the bumper sticker we have in LA says,

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honk if you think you’re Jesus.

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Well,

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an interesting thing about drugs being perfect is you know, God wouldn’t have made drugs

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if drugs weren’t perfect for us.

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I don’t know who you call God.

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You can call God DNA or you can biological wisdom.

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I don’t care what name you give her.

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But…

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The moon, right, the moon.

00:23:16

But the point is that

00:23:19

they’re finding out an interesting thing

00:23:20

about the brain.

00:23:21

The human brain has all these

00:23:22

little receptors there

00:23:23

and they’re morphine receptors

00:23:25

like

00:23:26

if there’s any

00:23:27

kind of chemical

00:23:27

that you can take

00:23:29

and it suddenly

00:23:30

starts your brain

00:23:31

buzzing

00:23:31

in a new reality

00:23:33

program

00:23:33

and zipping around

00:23:34

faster

00:23:35

or slowing down

00:23:36

to honey swamp

00:23:37

or changing

00:23:39

your state of

00:23:40

consciousness

00:23:40

in any way

00:23:41

you know

00:23:42

it’s not

00:23:44

bicarbonate of soda. It’s a drug,

00:23:49

usually a botanical-based, I’d say, and we’ll learn much more about this tomorrow when Dr.

00:23:56

Shogun and the real heavy… See, we’ve had the political know-how here and I’m here for the mid-brain tickling, right? I’m the cheerleader.

00:24:13

My job to get you warmed up for the Super Bowl, which happens tomorrow, when the real and tell us what to do.

00:24:27

Ask them.

00:24:30

But, see,

00:24:34

if the human brain,

00:24:34

you know,

00:24:36

if LSD is so terrible,

00:24:39

well, how come the brain has all these receptor organs

00:24:41

or these lowered thresholds

00:24:43

or the serotonin,

00:24:45

anti-serotonin.

00:24:46

I’m sure Dr. Shogun

00:24:47

and others will explain

00:24:48

this in more detail tomorrow.

00:24:49

But how come your brain

00:24:50

is wired in such a way

00:24:51

that if you take

00:24:52

like a few millionths

00:24:53

of a gram

00:24:54

of this mysterious substance,

00:24:56

you’re in an altered

00:24:57

state of consciousness?

00:24:58

Now,

00:24:59

do you think there was a flaw?

00:25:01

Do you think that God

00:25:02

made a mistake?

00:25:06

I don’t think so. I don’t think there are any mistakes in evolution Do you think that God made a mistake? I don’t think so.

00:25:06

I don’t think there are

00:25:07

any mistakes in evolution.

00:25:08

I think that an

00:25:08

evolutionary intelligence,

00:25:09

a biological intelligence,

00:25:11

a guy of wisdom that

00:25:11

has taken us in four

00:25:13

billion years from the

00:25:14

Precambrian swamps,

00:25:15

little cellular amoebas

00:25:16

lying around floating

00:25:17

and sucking, and in

00:25:19

just four and a half

00:25:20

quick million, billion

00:25:22

years, they got us to

00:25:23

the high altitude of

00:25:24

Howard Cosell

00:25:25

and Monday Night Football.

00:25:26

I mean,

00:25:27

there are no mistakes

00:25:29

in evolution.

00:25:30

And by the way,

00:25:32

this Darwinian bullshit,

00:25:34

you know,

00:25:36

there’s an interesting thing.

00:25:36

There’s a creationist

00:25:37

versus the Darwinian

00:25:38

fight going on now.

00:25:40

Man, that’s like a fight

00:25:41

between the Christians

00:25:42

and the Arabs.

00:25:43

They’re both wrong.

00:25:52

The Christians believe that Jehovah did it. He got off his camel. And without even a computer,

00:26:00

I mean, he just did it with, what, they have an abacus in those days. I was debating a man from the moral majority,

00:26:06

state president of the moral majority from the state of Washington

00:26:08

about a few months ago.

00:26:10

And believe it or not,

00:26:11

on a stage in front of about 3,000 or 4,000 college students,

00:26:13

he said that he was convinced,

00:26:15

and all his friends were convinced,

00:26:16

and a lot of his scientific friends were convinced,

00:26:18

that the universe was created about 4,004 years ago.

00:26:25

And according to

00:26:27

Secretary Watt,

00:26:28

don’t worry about the Redwoods

00:26:29

because it’s going to end

00:26:30

before the next fiscal budget

00:26:31

or something.

00:26:33

It’s going to end

00:26:34

with the Reagan administration,

00:26:35

I’ll tell you that.

00:26:37

Anyway,

00:26:38

I’m a creationist.

00:26:40

At that hearing

00:26:41

down in Mississippi

00:26:41

about two weeks ago,

00:26:43

very interesting,

00:26:45

you know, all the liberal, New York, intellectual, Darwinian,

00:26:51

hotshot scientists came up and proved that evolution is a blind force,

00:26:56

natural survival, four and a half billion years of rape,

00:27:00

leading to bigger and better macho, you know, Darwinian theories all about.

00:27:04

It’s very jockstrap playing fields of Eden.

00:27:07

There was a man named Wickram Singh

00:27:09

who wrote a book with a philosopher Hoyle,

00:27:12

I think it’s called The Life Cloud,

00:27:14

in which he was touting a theory of panspermia,

00:27:17

which has also been touted by Sir Francis Crick,

00:27:20

who won the Nobel Prize with Watson.

00:27:22

The theory of panspermia is that

00:27:23

it’s just as logical not to assume

00:27:26

as a possibility, we’re not just

00:27:27

doing final

00:27:29

takes here, it’s not a final

00:27:31

cutting procedure, that it’s very

00:27:34

likely possible that life

00:27:35

on this planet didn’t evolve by accident.

00:27:39

You know, that’s what

00:27:40

they’re teaching in the biology school

00:27:42

today, that life is an accident here

00:27:44

that started in a pre-Cambrian swamp

00:27:45

about 4 billion years ago

00:27:47

a bunch of

00:27:48

ammonia molecules

00:27:49

hanging around

00:27:49

and right now

00:27:50

it’s a methane molecules

00:27:51

and they invited

00:27:52

some hydrogen grills

00:27:53

and oxygen buoys

00:27:53

and the place

00:27:54

got hit by lighting

00:27:54

and they all began

00:27:55

to copulate

00:27:55

I mean

00:27:56

it was a terrible accident

00:27:59

you know

00:28:00

and we’d still be

00:28:02

little cellular creatures

00:28:03

except for you know

00:28:04

copying errors

00:28:05

booboos

00:28:06

glitches

00:28:07

and making mistakes

00:28:08

errors

00:28:08

making men stronger

00:28:10

and you know

00:28:10

like you know

00:28:10

what the Darwinian theory

00:28:11

is like

00:28:11

well this professor

00:28:12

came to Mississippi

00:28:15

and very few papers

00:28:16

publicized that

00:28:17

but you didn’t hear about it

00:28:17

he said something

00:28:18

very interesting

00:28:19

he’s not a Christian

00:28:20

you know

00:28:21

he’s a

00:28:21

he’s a

00:28:22

called a Gaia theorist

00:28:23

biology

00:28:23

believes in some sort

00:28:24

of biological intelligence he said the theory of Darwin you know that he’s a, he’s a, called a Gaia theorist biology, believes in some sort of biological intelligence.

00:28:25

He said, the theory of Darwin, you know, that it all started by accident without any plan

00:28:30

is essentially as though a tornado whipped through a junkyard and assembled a 747.

00:28:36

Now, I’m not giving you any final answers here

00:28:45

as to which one of my friends created the universe.

00:28:48

But I’m simply opening up your mind

00:28:50

to the possibility that neither Darwinism

00:28:52

nor creationism of the Jehovah freaks

00:28:55

is the final answer.

00:28:57

And science is still out in this question.

00:28:59

And as more and more people

00:29:00

learn how to use drugs intelligently

00:29:01

in less than 20 years

00:29:02

and get back to their microscopes

00:29:04

and their DNA mock-ups, we may have some more interesting information on exactly how evolution

00:29:09

got started. Now, you think, I know what you think. You think I’m rambling, don’t you?

00:29:18

You think I forgot what I was talking about. We’re here talking about the intelligent use of drugs. Don’t be hard on me here.

00:29:34

Yeah. Well, there’s a time and a place and a purpose for each drug, right? Like, I think anyone that takes cocaine after midnight

00:29:45

and asks it up the next morning is…

00:29:49

Well, not very intelligent.

00:29:51

He’s tired, right?

00:29:59

And fucking talked out, huh?

00:30:04

Well, anyway,

00:30:04

we could go through

00:30:06

all these different drugs.

00:30:07

There’s a time

00:30:08

you want to use a downer.

00:30:09

There’s a time

00:30:09

when you want to turn off your mind

00:30:10

and get in your body.

00:30:11

There’s a time

00:30:11

you want to climb out

00:30:14

of your body entirely.

00:30:15

A ketamine is a good drug

00:30:16

to do that.

00:30:17

We could list you

00:30:17

eight classes of drugs

00:30:19

and I’m sure

00:30:20

with any helpful question

00:30:23

from the audience,

00:30:24

Dr. Shogun will suggest to you many, many, many new possibilities

00:30:28

for human intelligence and human sensation and so forth.

00:30:32

But we’re here to talk about LSD, the psychedelic conference,

00:30:35

and I want to tell you a very interesting definition of LSD that pleases me.

00:30:42

One of my dear friends and a man that I admire very much

00:30:45

who I hope is going to be here tomorrow

00:30:47

is named Oscar Janager.

00:30:48

How many of you know the name Oscar Janager?

00:30:50

Oscar Janager is a psychiatrist

00:30:52

from Los Angeles

00:30:54

and he started in the 1950s

00:30:57

a research project

00:30:58

in which they were studying LSD.

00:31:00

Now he’s a very modest person

00:31:01

and a very extremely wise

00:31:03

and intelligent person.

00:31:04

He’s never been busted, for example.

00:31:09

Although he gave LSD to over 700 people, thousands of administrations, never any problems,

00:31:16

including people like Cary Grant and Jack Nicholson, you know.

00:31:19

You know, many of you probably don’t know, in the high point of LSD advertising, we had

00:31:25

the number one product commercial endorser that anyone would possibly want. We had a

00:31:31

man going around the country saying, LSD has changed my life. LSD has made me this and

00:31:35

made me that. You know who it was? Cary Grant. Do you remember that? How about a round of

00:31:38

applause for good old Cary, huh? Anyway, the definition of the clinical effects of LSD.

00:31:46

Oscar Channinger gave, let’s say, LSD sessions to over 700 people.

00:31:50

He had them questionnaires, interviews,

00:31:53

had a team of semantic psychologists do content analyses

00:31:58

to pull out the phrases that were used most often.

00:32:00

Then he had these typed on cards, so-called Q-sort, which you get very elaborate and

00:32:06

sensitive statistical study of the power of these words. And he finally, after all this

00:32:12

clinical psychometric work, came up with a list of the words most commonly used by people to

00:32:19

describe their LSD experiences. That’s kind of an interesting issue, isn’t it? Now, one

00:32:26

concept that was used by almost everyone that took LSD, the number one concept was

00:32:34

it’s all alive. With the implication that it’s all got intelligence, it’s all

00:32:44

communicating, it’s not a intelligence. It’s all communicating.

00:32:45

It’s not a dead world out there.

00:32:47

I mean, see that flower? It’s alive.

00:32:49

See that tree? It’s alive.

00:32:49

See that stone? It’s alive.

00:32:51

Alice Huxley, in this famous Dora’s Perception chapter, you know,

00:32:54

said, look at that chair sitting there just being alive,

00:32:57

sending chair talk to me.

00:33:00

Okay, the number one thing is everything is alive.

00:33:03

Number two was everything moves.

00:33:08

I think that’s hot.

00:33:11

Number three was it comes in waves.

00:33:20

Now tell that to Einstein and Albert will say, you bet.

00:33:22

now tell that to Einstein and Albert will say

00:33:23

you bet

00:33:24

tell any quantum physicist

00:33:29

those three little definitions

00:33:31

of anything

00:33:31

and they’re going to say

00:33:32

yeah it’s not bad

00:33:33

what equations are you using

00:33:35

and there’s another one

00:33:38

what was the other one

00:33:38

oh yeah

00:33:39

it’s all connected

00:33:42

now this can go bad you know if you’re having a paranoid situation and it’s all connected. Now this can go bad, you know,

00:33:45

if you’re having a paranoid situation.

00:33:48

It’s all alive and it’s all connected

00:33:50

and it doesn’t seem to like you.

00:33:58

But we’re all beyond that, aren’t we?

00:34:02

Anyway,

00:34:02

now,

00:34:02

I do want to

00:34:06

be extremely serious here

00:34:08

and to lay upon you

00:34:09

a heavy rap

00:34:10

about two books

00:34:11

which I’ve read recently

00:34:12

which really have changed

00:34:13

a lot of my perceptions

00:34:14

about myself

00:34:15

about us

00:34:15

about what we’ve been going through

00:34:16

and what we will go through

00:34:17

in the years to come

00:34:18

these two books

00:34:19

are tremendously

00:34:20

changeable

00:34:23

and they’re very optimistic

00:34:24

on the bottom line.

00:34:26

The two books are

00:34:27

a book on the baby booms

00:34:29

called Great Expectations

00:34:31

by Landon Y. Jones.

00:34:32

How many of you read it

00:34:33

or heard about it?

00:34:33

Great Expectations

00:34:34

by Landon Jones.

00:34:37

And the second is a book,

00:34:38

I’m sure you’ve heard of this one,

00:34:39

I don’t know if you’ve read it or not,

00:34:40

The Third Way by Alvin Topper.

00:34:41

How many of you read that?

00:34:43

Okay.

00:34:43

Let me tell you a little bit

00:34:44

about the first book that is about the baby boom.

00:34:47

According to Jones and my 40 billion,

00:34:51

billion, as Carl Sagan would say, neurons,

00:34:55

do the cha-cha-cha when I hear this concept.

00:34:59

Landon Jones’ concept is

00:35:00

that the greatest thing that ever happened to the human species since

00:35:05

we climbed out of the caves or down from the trees happened between the years 1946 and

00:35:11

1964 when the birth rate doubled. Now, doubling a birth rate is not doubling your income or

00:35:21

doubling your grade point average or or doubling your football score,

00:35:28

when you double a birth rate,

00:35:31

you are throwing a monkey wrench

00:35:32

into the whole process of evolution.

00:35:34

Not negatively.

00:35:35

You’re just totally changing everything.

00:35:37

What that means is,

00:35:38

between the years 1946 and 1964,

00:35:40

they expected about 38 million people to be born.

00:35:44

After World War II, there would be a little boom.

00:35:46

When the boys come back from the front, they want to make up for lost time.

00:35:50

And then they expected it to drop.

00:35:53

So instead of 38 million people, we had 76 million.

00:35:57

That’s roughly almost 38 million unexpected arrivals.

00:36:02

Now, man, you simply can’t add 38 million people to a country like this. Like, suppose tomorrow you woke up and there were 40 million new arrivals. Now, man, you simply can’t add 38 million people to a country

00:36:05

like this. Like, suppose tomorrow you woke up and there were 40 million new arrivals

00:36:09

here. I mean, can you imagine the freeways? Can you imagine the, you know, the try to

00:36:15

get a job? Can you imagine the problem? Well, that actually happened in this country. Now,

00:36:19

I confess that I was caught up in this, what they call procreation ethic,

00:36:26

or procreation.

00:36:27

It was a mania.

00:36:28

I tell you, it was a mania after World War II.

00:36:31

I came back from World War II,

00:36:32

and my wife and I,

00:36:35

and all of our friends,

00:36:36

we decided we were going to have babies.

00:36:38

And we just had babies.

00:36:40

Like no one ever had babies before.

00:36:45

I tell you, there were so many babies,

00:36:46

you couldn’t believe it.

00:36:47

Everyone went with their babies.

00:36:48

And people in those days,

00:36:49

you didn’t have a baby.

00:36:50

What’s wrong with you?

00:36:51

Are you queer or something?

00:36:52

You know.

00:36:55

Now what happened with all these babies coming along?

00:36:57

That’s from number one.

00:36:58

We had to double the diaper factories.

00:37:00

We had to double the factories

00:37:01

that made little ointments

00:37:03

and sweet-smelling things

00:37:04

for the 40 million additional bottoms that we had.

00:37:09

When they went to nursery school, we had to build new nursery schools for them.

00:37:11

When they went to primary, we had to double the number of primary schools.

00:37:14

When they went to high school, double the number of high schools.

00:37:18

Now, we’re doubling the number of jails for you.

00:37:24

You can explain so much

00:37:25

about this baby losing.

00:37:26

The reason there’s

00:37:26

an unemployment situation

00:37:28

here today

00:37:28

is because there are

00:37:29

twice as many of you

00:37:30

for the expected jobs.

00:37:32

The reason there’s

00:37:32

a housing shortage,

00:37:33

same reason,

00:37:34

figure it out.

00:37:35

Once you get this concept,

00:37:36

it kind of changes

00:37:36

a lot of things in your mind.

00:37:38

I’m going to switch

00:37:38

and hold that for one moment.

00:37:40

There’s 76 million of you.

00:37:43

76 million of you.

00:37:44

In 1988, you’ll be between the ages of what? you’re 76 million of you 76 million of you in 1988

00:37:45

you’ll be between the ages of

00:37:48

what? 24 and 42

00:37:50

yeah

00:37:50

can you imagine what’s going to happen then?

00:37:55

okay

00:37:55

another thing that happened in 19

00:37:57

what did he say?

00:38:02

another thing that happened in 1946

00:38:04

a very magical year

00:38:05

was

00:38:06

Toffler’s third wave

00:38:08

started

00:38:09

now Toffler says

00:38:11

that the first wave

00:38:12

was agriculture

00:38:13

10,000 years ago

00:38:14

farming, agriculture

00:38:16

the farming culture

00:38:18

civilization was based upon land

00:38:19

it was feudal

00:38:20

not much change

00:38:21

you lived around your own village

00:38:23

a very stratified

00:38:24

static society.

00:38:26

When after 10,000 years and about 200 or 300 years ago,

00:38:28

the second wave was the Industrial Revolution,

00:38:30

which everything moved to the cities because the factories were there.

00:38:32

And human life in the second wave became factory-oriented.

00:38:36

I want to tell you, I was brought up as a second…

00:38:38

You people don’t even know what I’m talking about.

00:38:41

Except you’ve seen the old people.

00:38:43

I was brought up as a second-wave

00:38:45

person.

00:38:46

I’m not

00:38:46

talking

00:38:47

intellectual

00:38:47

sociology here.

00:38:49

I’m telling

00:38:49

you that

00:38:50

when my

00:38:51

little red

00:38:52

mouth wanted

00:38:53

a baby or

00:38:53

a nipple,

00:38:54

I got it

00:38:54

on schedule.

00:38:57

My mother

00:38:58

fed me

00:38:59

food in

00:39:00

cans because

00:39:00

she was led

00:39:01

to believe

00:39:01

by the

00:39:02

factory-oriented

00:39:03

mentality of

00:39:04

the time that

00:39:05

anything that came from a factory in a can was better than something that just growed

00:39:08

out in organic filth out there.

00:39:12

I mean, it was insane.

00:39:14

So our schools were like little factories.

00:39:19

The principals were checking promptness.

00:39:21

You were supposed to be on time.

00:39:22

Everyone was taught the same thing.

00:39:24

Standardization.

00:39:25

Centralization. We lived in the same thing. Standardization. Centralization.

00:39:26

We lived in little boxes.

00:39:28

The nuclear family.

00:39:28

No more grandparents and all that.

00:39:30

We all moved to this.

00:39:31

I mean, it was really an insane time.

00:39:32

Obviously, we had to go through this in order to build the things we had to build to get us where we are now.

00:39:37

But the third wave started in 1946.

00:39:44

The third wave started in 1946.

00:39:49

And the third wave has to do with intelligence, electronics.

00:39:51

The third wave has to do with information,

00:39:54

in which not power or mechanical force,

00:39:56

but rain power is involved.

00:39:59

And we’re talking here, computers are talking about video. See, let’s go back to the baby boom.

00:40:03

Those of you in this room are an alien species.

00:40:08

You are third wave critters.

00:40:11

Because you were exposed to a world

00:40:14

that no other human beings

00:40:16

were exposed to before.

00:40:17

Because a minute you climbed out of the crib

00:40:19

and you crawled across the room

00:40:21

with your little pudgy baby hands

00:40:23

and you touched that TV dial.

00:40:27

And you began dialing and tuning realities. All of you in this room have experienced more

00:40:34

realities, more crises, more of life. You’ve seen more than the wisest sultans and philosophers

00:40:42

of the past. By the time you were ten, man, you were burned up.

00:40:46

Not to mention the fact…

00:40:47

Not to mention the fact, Seth, I forgot to tell you this,

00:40:52

that my wife and I, and everyone in our nursery school,

00:40:56

and everyone that I knew in graduate school,

00:40:58

we were agreed on one thing.

00:41:00

We were going to raise you different than we had been raised ourselves.

00:41:05

Were we insane or what?

00:41:09

No, sir.

00:41:10

See, we were brought into depression and all that stuff, you know, saluting the flag, authority, you know, submission, robot obedience.

00:41:18

Not for you, kiddies.

00:41:21

We’re going to give you the best of everything.

00:41:24

We’re going to lay those old guilt trips on you.

00:41:27

We’re going to force you to go to church

00:41:29

because, you know, original sin and all that.

00:41:31

We were going to treat you, believe it or not,

00:41:33

as human beings.

00:41:34

Now, that’s pretty reckless, isn’t it?

00:41:37

So, we trained you to be consumers.

00:41:40

We trained you to expect the best.

00:41:42

And we had old Mr. Television

00:41:43

sitting there in the corner of the room saying, hey, post-toasties are better than Wheaties. Yeah, listen you to expect the best. And we had old Mr. Television sitting there in the corner of the room saying,

00:41:45

Hey, Postosie’s better than Wheaties.

00:41:47

Yeah, listen, you deserve the best.

00:41:50

What kind of diapers do you want?

00:41:51

Hey, baby, you want this kind of little doll.

00:41:53

Don’t you? You want a Barbie doll.

00:41:54

You want the best. You want the best.

00:41:55

So naturally, we’ve got 76 million of you now running around with Gloria Vanderbilt’s name on your ass.

00:42:01

has Andrew Bilt’s name on your ass.

00:42:10

The terrible thing about you alien creatures is you want excellence.

00:42:12

You’re not going to settle for anything less than the best.

00:42:15

You don’t realize that you’re supposed to go to work

00:42:17

nine to five and punch that clock.

00:42:19

Pay your dues, man.

00:42:21

You don’t know about depression,

00:42:22

the value of the dollar.

00:42:28

your dues man you don’t know about depression the value of the dollar you know when I I talk this way when I’m debating Gordon Liddy and he gets up he

00:42:32

says what you’re talking about is an infantile point of view people got to

00:42:41

learn to grow up and learn that it learn that the world is a bad neighborhood.

00:42:50

Because you totally freak out the adult population.

00:42:56

Because you’re self-indulgent.

00:42:58

And because, you know, I go back from college lecture tours and I talk to people in Hollywood and they say,

00:43:02

Hey, what are the kids like in college?

00:43:05

I say, gee, you are the kids like in college? I said,

00:43:05

gee,

00:43:05

you know,

00:43:06

they’re amazing

00:43:07

as though they’ve been

00:43:07

through everything

00:43:08

that we went through

00:43:09

in 10 years or 60 or so.

00:43:10

They went through it

00:43:11

in high school

00:43:11

or maybe junior high school

00:43:12

and you know,

00:43:13

the kids in college now,

00:43:14

they’re really quite cynical.

00:43:17

They’re very realistic.

00:43:18

They’re very practical.

00:43:20

They want to get ahead.

00:43:22

They want to get

00:43:22

their own act together.

00:43:23

They want to get jobs.

00:43:24

They want to make money. They’re thinking about their own act together. They want to get jobs. They want to make money.

00:43:25

They’re thinking about their careers.

00:43:27

And all these Hollywood people

00:43:28

sit around and say,

00:43:29

boy, that’s terrible.

00:43:33

In other words,

00:43:34

the college kids today

00:43:35

are ahead of most adults.

00:43:40

And some people think

00:43:42

you’re doing this out of fear.

00:43:44

I don’t believe it.

00:43:45

I think that the average boom generation person…

00:43:48

You see, the key thing in evolution,

00:43:50

the key thing in psychology,

00:43:51

which comes as an insult to psychologists, really,

00:43:53

when you come to think of it,

00:43:54

is, you know, the generation you belong to

00:43:57

is of key importance.

00:43:59

It didn’t matter, see, in the first wave,

00:44:02

what generation, nothing changed.

00:44:04

There was no change in the village.

00:44:05

You know, the duke was there, the baron was there, the land was owned by those people, you know,

00:44:09

and we worked in the fields or whatever.

00:44:10

There was no change.

00:44:12

But particularly in the last 50 years, the generation you belong to is a psychological determinant

00:44:20

or a behavioral determinant of tremendous.

00:44:21

Look, you notice all the old people today, whether they’re left-wing,

00:44:25

right-wing, conservative, liberal,

00:44:27

they’re all united.

00:44:28

The Gray Panthers,

00:44:29

they want more Social Security.

00:44:31

See?

00:44:31

They’ve got their generational

00:44:32

thing together.

00:44:34

So the fact that you belong

00:44:36

to this generation

00:44:37

that does want excellence,

00:44:40

that does expect everything,

00:44:41

and you’re reasonable enough now

00:44:43

and realistic enough now,

00:44:44

you’re not hippies anymore. Hey, peace and love, man, can I borrow a dollar? You know, you’re reasonable enough now and realistic enough now. You’re not hippies anymore.

00:44:45

Hey, peace and love, man.

00:44:46

Can I borrow a dollar?

00:44:47

You know,

00:44:48

you’re not at that stage anymore.

00:44:49

You realize that, you know,

00:44:50

you create your own world.

00:44:52

You have to work for it.

00:44:54

In other words,

00:44:55

it takes much more responsibility,

00:44:57

you know,

00:44:57

to run your own reality movie

00:44:59

than to be a dumb,

00:45:01

badly paid,

00:45:02

extra in somebody else’s

00:45:04

dumb black and white documentary training film, right?

00:45:08

You’ve got to run your own movie.

00:45:09

It takes a lot of hustling out there.

00:45:12

And it really is hard.

00:45:13

It really is hard, you know,

00:45:14

to run a 40 billion cell brain these days.

00:45:18

You know?

00:45:20

True.

00:45:21

I don’t blame these born-again Christians

00:45:23

where they say,

00:45:23

hell, man, I can’t handle it anymore.

00:45:25

I’m going down on my knees

00:45:26

and let Jesus call the plays

00:45:29

from the Dallas Cowboy Huddle.

00:45:33

I don’t blame them.

00:45:34

I don’t blame them.

00:45:35

It’s hard getting up every morning,

00:45:37

scientific pagan,

00:45:38

trying to run this brain and say,

00:45:40

Jesus, I’ve got to figure it all out myself.

00:45:41

You know, there’s no big brother.

00:45:43

Nobody died for my sins, man.

00:45:49

I did my time for them.

00:45:58

And no complaints.

00:45:59

I loved every minute of it.

00:46:04

Okay, baby boom, yeah, right. Now, of course, drugs, yeah,

00:46:11

sure. When the baby boomers hit high school and college, that was around mid-60s. Well,

00:46:21

you can imagine what happened. Hey, there are drugs that are better than beer?

00:46:26

I want it.

00:46:34

You know, people ask me all the time,

00:46:37

well, do I feel responsible,

00:46:38

or do I feel guilt,

00:46:40

or do I feel this or that?

00:46:40

I said, you know, it’s going to happen anyway.

00:46:42

You know, we had this incredible demographic,

00:46:45

genetics thing happening.

00:46:47

76 million aliens running around

00:46:49

this tiny little country of ours

00:46:51

wanting the best of everything.

00:46:53

They’re third world people.

00:46:54

Now, the thing about LSD

00:46:55

and the kind of drugs that we are here to talk about

00:46:58

and that we take all the time,

00:47:00

they’re third wave drugs.

00:47:04

See, most of the old drugs, opium, hashish,

00:47:06

been around for thousands of years.

00:47:07

They’re first wave drugs.

00:47:10

You can smoke opium or smoke hashish

00:47:12

and you sit down there and watch the trees grow, right?

00:47:16

Smoke that good Afghani stuff

00:47:18

and you look at the wool growing a sheep for three days, right?

00:47:22

But man, that’s your gig.

00:47:27

But you’re running

00:47:28

a factory civilization,

00:47:30

you know, you don’t want people, you know,

00:47:31

and I agree.

00:47:33

When I take an airplane,

00:47:35

as I sometimes do to go to

00:47:37

Washington, D.C.,

00:47:39

I do not want my pilot hallucinating.

00:47:47

I don’t want him staring out the window

00:47:49

wondering about the cosmos of it all.

00:47:53

So,

00:47:54

it’s inevitable that

00:47:58

a factory-oriented industrial society like ours

00:48:02

shuddered at the idea of millions of

00:48:05

people, millions and millions of people, taking drugs, which were definitely motivation-loss

00:48:12

syndrome deals.

00:48:15

You see, she makes no mistakes.

00:48:19

Miss Gaia, in charge of the egg-sper egg sperm division makes no mistakes. The reason why LSD probably came along, LSD’s been around, come on,

00:48:27

the air god and peyote, all these drugs have been around for centuries.

00:48:32

They weren’t hot, though, because the time when you were born,

00:48:35

see, the industrial age is over.

00:48:39

And all that shivering and upset that you feel, you know, the Republicans and Reagan and all that,

00:48:44

they’re upset because their civilization is finito juanito.

00:48:49

It ended.

00:48:49

It ended.

00:48:52

And we don’t need 36 million factory-going, time-punching industrial robots.

00:49:05

We don’t need you doing that.

00:49:07

We need you to lead the way

00:49:08

into the information society,

00:49:11

into the computer society,

00:49:13

into the video society,

00:49:14

in which decentralization and

00:49:15

long-range communication, in the society

00:49:18

of the head of space. Listen.

00:49:27

LSD is a third- drug it speeds up, accelerates, jambles, scrambles

00:49:30

you can use whatever metaphor you want

00:49:33

but it’s not your tidy, compartmentalized

00:49:37

compulsive, prompt

00:49:39

second wave drug

00:49:41

alcohol is great for that

00:49:43

the industrialists,

00:49:47

and I’m not knocking them really.

00:49:48

They played their part

00:49:48

and I love the fruits of industry.

00:49:50

I came here not on a donkey

00:49:52

or by levitation.

00:49:53

I came here in a car today.

00:49:55

I’m not knocking industry and so forth,

00:49:57

but we don’t need human beings.

00:49:59

Step by step,

00:50:00

automation is taking away the jobs.

00:50:04

And wonderful, wonderful.

00:50:06

If a machine can do any muscular, low-level job,

00:50:10

you know, better as well or better than a human being,

00:50:13

let the machine do it.

00:50:14

Because, you know, the idea shouldn’t be full employment.

00:50:18

The idea is, you know, as much time as possible free

00:50:22

to help us get together to make the next move

00:50:24

into the information side of the future.

00:50:28

So LSD is definitely a third wave drug,

00:50:31

and that kind of explains to me,

00:50:33

one of the explanations why it came along just when it did.

00:50:37

Now, I’m sure you all know,

00:50:40

how long have I been talking?

00:50:47

I don’t want aesthetic judgments. I want time, man. We’re scientists. I know I’m great. I’m on a hot row, right?

00:50:52

Okay. I want the time. What is it? How long have I been talking? 10, 15. If I want to worry, can I worry?

00:51:05

Okay.

00:51:06

I won’t worry.

00:51:07

Yeah, the moon is full.

00:51:08

Okay.

00:51:10

I want to talk to you a little about the intelligent use of LSD and drugs like that.

00:51:13

The key to it all, as you well know, is set and setting.

00:51:16

We came out with that theory at Harvard about 20 years ago.

00:51:19

And set and setting explains 99% of what happens in an LSD experience.

00:51:24

Set, of course, means what you bring as a person to the experience,

00:51:27

and setting is the environment.

00:51:28

Now, let me give you an example of set and setting.

00:51:31

If you take LSD under the following conditions,

00:51:34

you’ve just escaped from prison where they want to put you in the gas chamber,

00:51:37

and you find yourself in a hotel in Palm Springs where the FBI is having its local convention.

00:51:46

That is bad set in bad setting. You’re going to have a bummer. Now, the obvious set for a

00:51:59

mind-changing, altered states,

00:52:07

brain-accelerating experience like LSD,

00:52:10

the obvious intelligence set is you know why you’re taking the drug.

00:52:13

You have a purpose.

00:52:13

It’s part of your life pattern.

00:52:15

You’re not just…

00:52:16

I mean, you don’t go up to a computer

00:52:18

and kick it and say,

00:52:19

hey, turn it on, just let it go.

00:52:22

You know, that’s a misuse of the computer.

00:52:25

You’re going to get some crazy readouts

00:52:28

if you do that.

00:52:29

I’m not against crazy readouts, by the way.

00:52:35

But

00:52:35

it’s also

00:52:38

sensible to know something about the

00:52:40

bio-computer that you’re

00:52:41

turning on. I think that anyone takes

00:52:43

any kind of drug that doesn’t have some,

00:52:46

doesn’t look,

00:52:47

you read the

00:52:47

at least Reader’s Digest

00:52:48

literature,

00:52:49

you know,

00:52:51

what’s involved here

00:52:52

when you take MDA

00:52:53

or take OSD

00:52:53

or what is a midbrain anyway.

00:52:55

I think you should know

00:52:56

something about

00:52:57

the equipment.

00:53:00

The facts are,

00:53:02

as I view them

00:53:03

from my

00:53:04

far away position,

00:53:08

this is not a scientific statement, but it’s my appraisal,

00:53:11

that if you take LSD, and throughout the history of the last 20 years,

00:53:19

those who have taken LSD with some thought and preparation,

00:53:24

at a time when they

00:53:26

were feeling good

00:53:27

about themselves

00:53:28

in a situation

00:53:29

and environment

00:53:30

where they were

00:53:31

surrounded by

00:53:32

pleasant and inspiring

00:53:33

stimuli

00:53:35

with little chance

00:53:38

of intrusion

00:53:38

by noxious elements

00:53:40

and with

00:53:43

a companion

00:53:44

who’s had

00:53:45

some experience

00:53:45

with you,

00:53:46

the chance

00:53:47

of you having

00:53:48

a serious

00:53:48

harmful trip

00:53:49

are less

00:53:51

than 1%

00:53:52

or 1%

00:53:53

I mean,

00:53:55

you’re safer

00:53:56

there than

00:53:57

you are

00:53:57

on the

00:53:57

Santa Barbara

00:53:58

Highway

00:53:59

at rush

00:54:01

hour.

00:54:03

I would

00:54:04

also say that

00:54:05

in the last analysis,

00:54:07

99% of really bad trips

00:54:10

or even moderately bad trips

00:54:11

are due not to the drug

00:54:13

or not to the set of the person

00:54:15

but to the setting.

00:54:17

Because we have found out

00:54:18

in thousands of our own experiences,

00:54:19

I’m sure you have too,

00:54:20

that we all get freaked out,

00:54:22

we all get moving too fast,

00:54:23

we all…

00:54:24

You look at computer people sometimes,

00:54:25

you watch people using computers,

00:54:26

sometimes they don’t know where they’re at.

00:54:28

We’ve all been there.

00:54:29

But if you have someone around,

00:54:31

you know,

00:54:31

put their hand on your shoulder

00:54:32

or something,

00:54:32

you say,

00:54:33

it’s all right,

00:54:33

you know,

00:54:33

it’s just a computer.

00:54:38

The chances of any long-range,

00:54:40

serious problems are minimal.

00:54:43

So in other words,

00:54:49

LSD, bad trips, and there have been many,

00:54:55

are easily preventable by intelligent, thoughtful people.

00:55:00

Now, an unfortunate thing happened,

00:55:03

a predictable thing happened in the 1960s

00:55:04

when we were discussing LSD.

00:55:06

See, we didn’t know anything about the baby boom.

00:55:08

We didn’t know there were 76 million of you out there wanting the best of everything, including the best of drugs.

00:55:13

We thought we were going to have our sedate scholarly centers where middle-aged intellectuals would get together and take drugs.

00:55:21

And we’d write books and we’d write manuals and maybe in the next generation, you know, blah, blah, blah.

00:55:25

We didn’t know there was a horde

00:55:26

of 76 million aliens

00:55:28

going around with your big mouths

00:55:29

open wanting sugar cubes

00:55:30

and instant bliss

00:55:33

and total satori.

00:55:37

We were as surprised as anyone else.

00:55:40

So when we saw that happening,

00:55:43

and believe me,

00:55:44

I’m not to blame for the baby boom.

00:55:47

I did my share.

00:55:51

When we saw what was going on,

00:55:53

we did rush out and we tried to program good trips.

00:55:58

And we wrote manuals and we gave lectures

00:55:59

and we had slides and we got the Beatles to write nice songs

00:56:03

and we got the birds to write nice songs.

00:56:06

We tried to brainwash.

00:56:09

It’s all brainwashing.

00:56:10

When you take a drug like LSD, you pull the old programs,

00:56:13

and anything that comes in, you listen to it,

00:56:14

so you’re totally vulnerable, helpless.

00:56:16

We tried to give positive suggestions.

00:56:20

It’s wonderful. Float downstream. Don’t worry.

00:56:23

This is not dying. You remember.

00:56:25

Go with the flow flow trust your own brain

00:56:30

meanwhile the forces of Darth Vader and his narcotic agent commandos deliberately

00:56:43

attempting to fuck up

00:56:45

the brains

00:56:45

of the baby boom

00:56:46

and turn them

00:56:47

against their own

00:56:48

internal divinity

00:56:49

were going around

00:56:50

saying things like this

00:56:51

if you take LSD

00:56:54

you will

00:56:55

jump out a window

00:56:56

if you take LSD

00:57:00

you will

00:57:02

break your chromosomes

00:57:03

crack you take LSD, you will break your chromosomes. Crack!

00:57:14

See, we didn’t know that 8 million of you,

00:57:16

8 million of you took LSD.

00:57:18

We had no idea it was going to happen.

00:57:20

We couldn’t get 8 million copies

00:57:22

of our books out. We couldn’t be there

00:57:24

when some poor person, you know,

00:57:26

suddenly in the middle of Times Square, high on acid,

00:57:30

and nothing to do but break their chromosomes.

00:57:35

It was called the brainwash war of the late 60s.

00:57:41

Another thing that happened then was

00:57:44

we in advertising and promotion got way ahead of the production department.

00:57:52

There simply wasn’t enough LSD for 8 million consumers.

00:57:56

And everyone had 10 friends waiting.

00:58:01

So, anything, you know, law law the economics of drugs

00:58:06

is very different

00:58:06

from money

00:58:07

you know

00:58:07

Gresham’s law on money

00:58:08

that bad money

00:58:09

drives out good money

00:58:10

like bad money

00:58:11

will drive out gold

00:58:12

the thing is

00:58:13

opposite in drugs

00:58:14

good drugs

00:58:15

will drive out bad drugs

00:58:16

really

00:58:16

you got a choice of

00:58:17

you know

00:58:18

Sandoz acid

00:58:19

and PCP

00:58:21

or some wonderful

00:58:24

wonderful

00:58:24

Colombian marijuana

00:58:25

and, you know,

00:58:28

Coors beer.

00:58:34

Don’t offend anyone,

00:58:35

but let’s be,

00:58:36

got to face facts here.

00:58:43

So you have 8 million consumers and baby, remember, you were consumers.

00:58:47

You wanted it, and you wanted it, and you wanted it.

00:58:49

You were going to take no for an answer.

00:58:50

So in this vacuum, there moved two groups of people.

00:58:54

Well, meaning people tried to make LSD, and they bungled, and that’s terrible.

00:59:02

And then some really sleazy people would just take anything,

00:59:06

you know,

00:59:06

methadrine and put some strychnine in it

00:59:08

or God knows what

00:59:09

and sell it as LSD.

00:59:11

I want to tell you something

00:59:12

about bad experiences.

00:59:16

I don’t care how you’ve been bummed out

00:59:17

in love or losing money

00:59:19

or whatever.

00:59:20

There’s no experience in the world

00:59:21

that is quite as miserable

00:59:23

as a bad LSD experience

00:59:26

when you start getting a headache or a stomachache about two hours into it.

00:59:30

So there were a lot of very unpleasant trips, which was due.

00:59:35

And I want to thank Bruce out there for calling my attention to this.

00:59:40

It took me a long time to figure this out after he taught me.

00:59:43

But yeah, there’s no question about it that there were a lot of bad substances going around.

00:59:48

And bad, I said there’s no bad drugs or good drugs. Bad in the sense that a good drug is

00:59:55

the drug that you need at the time you need it, the place you need it, to get your life

00:59:59

and get your brain operating in a way that will create the reality you want. So this was unfortunate.

01:00:05

And it did cause a slowdown, maybe, in the consumption of LSD.

01:00:12

See, none of us are really sure.

01:00:14

There’s one theory that says that people just went on taking acid all the time,

01:00:17

but they just didn’t shout about it.

01:00:19

People just went on taking LSD, and they didn’t run down the streets naked saying,

01:00:22

Hey, I found God.

01:00:23

You know, they’d roll over in bed and whisper it to someone maybe, but there was no big bumper sticker deal.

01:00:29

And then there were other whims, you know, they’ve got the Vietnam War going and the hostages,

01:00:34

so there are too many things for the press to be worried about than LSD.

01:00:38

One thing I do know is true, and Dr. Shogun will tell you a lot more about this tomorrow,

01:00:43

there are a lot of people that didn’t stop taking LSD and researching LSD.

01:00:48

People in laboratories and universities and research departments

01:00:53

and many of them in their own private institutions and even in their own homes.

01:00:57

Serious-minded, quiet, well-educated pharmacologists and chemists and clinicians

01:01:04

who were studying, studying, improving the drugs

01:01:08

so that the drug movement, the LSD, psychedelic movement, has continued quietly.

01:01:13

And apparently it seems to be blossoming and flowering again everywhere.

01:01:19

It’s always interesting, you know, when the only way we really know

01:01:22

from the newspaper what’s going on in the drug world

01:01:25

is when you read the boastful statistics of the narcotics agents.

01:01:30

They say, well, we just busted 3 million pounds of marijuana

01:01:35

and $10 billion worth of cocaine, plus a lot of PCP and acid.

01:01:41

Well, hooray.

01:01:44

You notice LSD is appearing more and more and more

01:01:46

on the bus rap sheets

01:01:48

that you read in the newspaper, which may be

01:01:50

a sign of the times.

01:01:53

One thing did happen. I don’t know

01:01:55

how this figures in here, but

01:01:57

when the LSD boom

01:01:59

dropped off,

01:02:01

at least the talking about it,

01:02:04

the mood went down, didn’t it?

01:02:08

You know, the music was never as good.

01:02:11

You know, I mean, John Lennon, you know, told me several times that, you know,

01:02:18

the Beatles’ best music came during that period when they were getting really high and far out.

01:02:22

that period when they were getting really high and far out.

01:02:31

The space program, you know, was really, the outer space program was really booming in the late 60s.

01:02:32

And as soon as Nixon came in and said, hey, we don’t want people getting out far beyond

01:02:36

our radars, there’s always a perfect correlation between the inner space and the outer space

01:02:43

movements, at

01:02:45

least as we get

01:02:46

them visibly.

01:02:48

Another interesting

01:02:49

thing, you know,

01:02:50

the suicide rate

01:02:51

among teenagers is

01:02:52

now epidemic, and

01:02:54

there are big

01:02:54

television documentaries

01:02:55

now.

01:02:55

You read about

01:02:56

that and heard

01:02:56

about it?

01:02:57

The suicide rate

01:02:58

among adolescents

01:02:59

isn’t interesting,

01:03:00

you know, because

01:03:00

there’s a lot of

01:03:01

talk about people

01:03:02

jumping out windows

01:03:03

of the LSD and

01:03:03

how LSD was dangerous and hurt people.

01:03:06

Well, you know, the facts of the matter are that in the 1960s, you had two choices.

01:03:16

If you went to Vietnam, less than 8 million went to Vietnam, 50,000 young American boys were killed in Vietnam.

01:03:23

50,000 young American boys were killed in Vietnam.

01:03:26

If you took acid on your induction day and dyed your hair purple,

01:03:30

the chances of you living through the Vietnam War

01:03:32

were practically perfect.

01:03:40

You know, the suicide rate actually went way down

01:03:43

during the 60s.

01:03:44

I’m not saying that that’s due to LSD.

01:03:47

The suicide rate always goes down when something exciting is happening,

01:03:51

when something hopeful is happening,

01:03:53

when something enthusiastic can be a war,

01:03:54

can be anything that gets people, particularly young people.

01:03:58

You’ve got to give young people hope.

01:04:00

You’ve got to give young people something to live for.

01:04:02

You’ve got to give young people something that makes it exciting to be on this planet.

01:04:07

Sometimes I think about the kids growing up today.

01:04:09

My wife is about to launch it.

01:04:10

What do the kids need?

01:04:12

They’re told by Reagan and by the powers that be and the economists and so forth, boom, doom.

01:04:17

You’re never going to get any single houses again.

01:04:19

You’re never going to have a chance.

01:04:21

There are too many jobs and not enough people for jobs.

01:04:25

I mean, there’s going to be a not enough people, you know, jobs.

01:04:27

I mean, there’s going to be a World War III, baby.

01:04:27

Get ready.

01:04:29

We’re going to really bomb those Russians.

01:04:30

I mean, oh, boy.

01:04:32

I don’t call that a hopeful.

01:04:33

I don’t call that a confidence,

01:04:37

courage-instilling approach to young people.

01:04:40

Well, it wasn’t that way in the 60s, was it?

01:04:46

You’re listening to The Psychedelic Salon,

01:04:48

where people are changing their lives one thought at a time.

01:04:52

Ah, if only dear Tim could see us now.

01:04:56

As my sainted mother sometimes said,

01:05:00

everything is different,

01:05:01

but nothing has changed.

01:05:04

I’d like to pass along a few of my thoughts about the talk we just heard, but time is pressing down on me today.

01:05:12

However, I can’t help but to mention one thing that he didn’t say when he was talking about the false rumor that LSD caused chromosome damage.

01:05:21

The story he didn’t tell is that when a reporter asked him

01:05:25

to comment about that story when it first came out, his answer was classic.

01:05:29

Instead of explaining to the reporter that the story about broken chromosomes

01:05:34

was totally bogus, completely false, he took a different tack. So rather than

01:05:40

discuss the flawed science in the report, he instead said, Maybe so, but go back and tell them that it also gives you a two-hour orgasm.

01:05:50

And that went a long way to getting people to look more closely at the story.

01:05:55

Just a little bit of psychedelic trivia that I thought you’d enjoy.

01:05:59

Now, for a little news from the rest of the world, I’ll spare you from any Facebook talk today,

01:06:05

but I do want to let you know that both Dope Fiend and Queer Ninja are now on Twitter,

01:06:09

for those of us who are big fans of all the programs on the Cannabis Podcast Network.

01:06:15

Of course, we don’t yet have any kind of plan for using this tool to help define the others,

01:06:20

but my hunch is that something interesting is going to grow out of all these little tweets.

01:06:26

I also received a nice message from the artist Michael Perry, who had this very interesting

01:06:32

take on art that I’d like to read.

01:06:34

And Michael says,

01:06:36

Hello Lorenzo, I thought I would send you some images to keep on file, just in case

01:06:41

you ever decide to use them.

01:06:43

I have chosen art as my mode of communication because the spoken word is such a limited And he goes on, and would instead say that a picture is worth a thousand conceptual subtleties

01:07:05

that resonate with our higher consciousness on multidimensional planes of existence.

01:07:11

I really like the way you put that, Michael,

01:07:14

and I hope that our fellow salonners will give what you say some thought.

01:07:18

If I had the time, I could go off on a left brain, right brain track from here,

01:07:23

but I’ll leave that up to you to do on your own.

01:07:27

Michael goes on,

01:07:28

There is a plethora of incredible art out there that you could use on your platform.

01:07:33

I would encourage you to create a featured art section

01:07:35

that could be changed monthly or even quarterly.

01:07:38

It would give your website a boost, I’m sure.

01:07:42

Well, almost anything would probably give my websites a boost.

01:07:46

And it isn’t for lack of

01:07:48

volunteers who want to help.

01:07:50

But even if I farmed out most

01:07:51

of the work, my own involvement would

01:07:53

take more time than I have available

01:07:55

right now. I hope to change that

01:07:57

situation once my novel is finished,

01:07:59

but for now we’ll just have to struggle

01:08:01

along without all of the

01:08:03

bells and whistles that I hope to include one day.

01:08:07

The last thing Michael had to say was,

01:08:10

I have only just begun to publish a few pieces of my work.

01:08:14

I would also be happy to send you a commission for many sales that resulted.

01:08:18

This esoteric stuff is great, but we all have kids to feed.

01:08:22

And if you’ve got teenagers, that’s no small potatoes.

01:08:25

Ouch. LOL.

01:08:28

And I really hate to point this out to you, Michael,

01:08:31

but after the teenage years comes college

01:08:33

and another never-ending stream of bills.

01:08:37

But if all goes well, you may eventually have some grandchildren.

01:08:41

And grandchildren, I’ve discovered, are really what makes life worth living.

01:08:46

The other thing I’d like to pass along right now is that although I really appreciate all of the

01:08:51

offers to receive commissions on various things, I’ve decided to keep it simple and not get involved

01:08:58

in commerce. If you’ve been to our notes from the Psychedelic Salon blog, you’ve seen the banner for

01:09:04

Guyon Botanicals.

01:09:05

And this is the site of one of our fellow salonners who did a great deal of free work for me in the

01:09:10

early days of the salon. And he also happens to have a top quality line of products. And even

01:09:16

though he’s offered on many occasions to pay me a commission, I don’t take one for several reasons.

01:09:22

The main reason is that, like Michael,

01:09:27

E-Rock X1 also has a family to care for.

01:09:30

And I’ve got my lifestyle reduced to a point where that extra money isn’t really necessary to keep me going.

01:09:34

So a big thank you to all of our fellow salonners

01:09:37

who have offered art and music and other things to promote through the salon.

01:09:41

But for now, at least, I want to keep the salon as commerce-free as possible.

01:09:46

And speaking of being free, in case you missed it, the Electronic Frontier Foundation, EFF,

01:09:53

has published an extremely comprehensive and very readable guide that’s titled, Surveillance

01:10:00

Self-Defense, Practical Advice on Protecting Your Private Data.

01:10:04

Self-Defense, Practical Advice on Protecting Your Private Data.

01:10:11

And you can find that project at ssd.eff.org.

01:10:15

And I’ll post that link along with the program notes for this podcast.

01:10:20

But here’s a brief summary of why this may be of some importance to you.

01:10:27

EFF created the Surveillance Self-Defense Site to educate Americans about the law and technology of communications surveillance and computer searches and seizures, and to provide

01:10:32

the information and tools necessary to keep their private data out of the government’s hands.

01:10:37

The guide includes tips on accessing the security risks to your personal computer files and

01:10:42

communications, strategies for interacting with law enforcement,

01:10:47

and articles on specific defensive technologies,

01:10:49

such as encryption, that can help protect the privacy of your data.

01:10:53

You can imagine the Internet as a giant vacuum cleaner,

01:10:57

sucking up all of the private information that you let near it.

01:11:01

We want to show people the tools they can use to encrypt and anonymize data, protecting themselves against government surveillance, said EFF staff technologist Peter Eckersley.

01:11:11

Privacy is about mitigating risks and making trade-offs.

01:11:15

Every decision you make about whether to save an email, chat online, or search with or sign into Google has privacy implications.

01:11:24

It’s important to understand those implications

01:11:26

and make informed decisions based upon them.

01:11:30

And we hope that surveillance self-defense will help you do that.

01:11:34

So you may want to take a look at some of the tips that they give

01:11:38

so that you can have a little more privacy than the average web surfer enjoys.

01:11:44

And finally, I want to mention a TED talk that I’m, that’s T-E-D,

01:11:49

a TED talk that I’m pretty sure you’ve already seen.

01:11:52

It’s by Jill Bolte-Taylor,

01:11:55

and if her 18-minute presentation doesn’t completely blow you away,

01:11:59

then you either didn’t listen very closely or I don’t know what.

01:12:05

But I’ve listened to it three times now, and I got something new to think about each time.

01:12:10

I still haven’t integrated everything I learned from this talk into my own life,

01:12:14

but she sure has given me a lot to work with.

01:12:17

And you can find that talk through a link on your program notes

01:12:20

or you can go to www.ted.com and search for Jill Bolte-Taylor. That’s B-O-L-T-E

01:12:28

Taylor. And you’ll find it right at the top of the list. I promise you that it’ll be worth your

01:12:35

time and I don’t say that very often. And I want to thank my new Facebook friend, Pele, who joins

01:12:41

us here in the salon from Sweden for sending me that link and for

01:12:46

reminding me of what a powerful presentation Jill gave.

01:12:50

Well, that’s about all the time I have for just now, and so I’ll close today’s podcast

01:12:56

by reminding you once again that this and all of the podcasts from the Psychedelic Salon

01:13:01

are freely available for you to use in your own audio projects under the Creative Commons Attribution

01:13:06

Non-Commercial Share Alike 3.0 license.

01:13:09

And if you have any questions about that,

01:13:11

just click the Creative Commons link

01:13:13

at the bottom of the Psychedelic Salon web page,

01:13:15

which you can find at psychedelicsalon.org.

01:13:19

And that’s also where you’ll find

01:13:20

the program notes for these podcasts.

01:13:23

And for now, this is Lorenzo signing off from cyberdelic space.

01:13:27

Be well, my friends. It is the impossible become possible and yet remaining impossible.