Program Notes
Guest speaker: Dr. Timothy Leary
[NOTE: All quotations are by Dr. Timothy Leary.]
“Now the key thing to the human species is this: That we have not committed ourselves to an over-specialized form.”
“It’s obvious that if any quantum leaps are going to happen in evolution it’s best designed to happen in a period of adolescence.”
“Evolution has always involved people like us getting together as we are tonight, figuring out where we came from, and who’s slowing us down, and what’s the factual evidence as to how fast and where we can move?”
“The future belongs to those who see the future.”
“The key to neurological navigation is to be able to voyage into exactly the circuits of your brain that you want to be exactly when you want to be there and with whom you want to be there.”
“The key to the Sixties, as we see it now [1979], was a period of self-discovery, of self-indulgence, and the refusal to accept the adult hive over-specialized models.”
“Show me a taboo and I’m interested in it.”
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Transcript
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Greetings from cyberdelic space.
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This is Lorenzo, and I’m your host here in the psychedelic salon.
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Space. This is Lorenzo, and I’m your host here in the Psychedelic Salon. And I agree,
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it’s been way too long since we got together here the last time, and that’s mainly because I’ve been having some technical difficulties that I’ll tell you about later. But first,
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I would like to thank Neil B., Robert B., Lori W., Scott P., Simon S, John A, Mark C, and Craig V,
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all of whom sent in donations during the past three weeks.
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And so Neil, Robert, Lori, Scott, Simon, John, Mark, and Craig.
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Well, I have to admit that if I wasn’t feeling so guilty about not doing a podcast
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and thanking you for your continuing support of the salon,
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that I’d probably be putting off today’s program even longer while I continue trying to solve these technical problems.
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But your continuing support, even in the face of my long silence, has moved me to overcome my lethargy and get back on with the show.
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overcome my lethargy, and get back on with the show.
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So, if you think way back to the 12th of last month,
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which was February 2010, in case you’re wondering,
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when I published podcast number 214,
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which was the first part of a talk that Dr. Timothy Leary gave in San Francisco in 1979.
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And when we left off, the good doctor had just been asked the loaded question about whether he thought the people in San Francisco or Los Angeles were cooler. And after
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dodging that question, he took a short break. So now we’ll pick up where he returns to the stage for the second half of his talk.
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Adult means the finished form.
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The word adolescent comes from the present participle of the same word, to grow.
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The adolescent is one who grows.
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Now, the key thing about the human species is this,
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that we have not committed ourselves
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to an over-specialized adult form.
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Now, if you follow the logic here, it becomes very simple.
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The more power you give to the young of your species,
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the sooner you give that power to them, the faster your species is going to grow,
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the farther your gene pool is going to move into the future,
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and, of course, it goes without saying,
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the key to everything, the more growth in the individuals will result.
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Now, the amazing thing about the United States and about the new California culture is this,
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that it’s definitely a youth-oriented culture.
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As you move east, you will find the countries run by older and older men. That’s
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what it should be, and I’m not knocking that whatsoever. But America has always been the
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place where it’s a frontier place where youth, and I would even use the word adolescence,
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has been the central cultural theme.
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Now, Europeans really think we’re nuts over here.
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We move around, we change, there’s nothing around us.
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The way of architecture is more than 50 years old.
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We are, you know…
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Now, let’s look at the characteristics of adolescence.
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The adolescent…
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See, the interesting thing about adolescence is
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sexually active,
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but hasn’t committed to a final over-specialized
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adult form. So it’s obvious that if any evolution, any quantum leaks are going to happen, it’s
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best designed to happen during a period of adolescence. Now an adolescent is generally
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characterized by being intense, romantic, idealistic, change-able, enthusiastic, loves surprise, loves to joke,
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takes things very seriously but then jokes about them.
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And above all, your adolescent is horny.
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Now, I cite you the case of a species which has these characteristics.
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these characteristics. The trick is to remain, to keep within a central core, a seed essence of adolescence. Now, my friends, again, I’m not advocating anything, but I’ll tell you that I
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have tried to be an adult over 24 times. I mean, I wouldn’t knock it if I hadn’t tried it.
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I mean, I wouldn’t knock it if I hadn’t tried it.
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I’ve had a lot of fun as an adult.
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But I knew that my basic compass reading, my gyroscopic navigational readings told me that…
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So, become an adult.
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Not that you can be a swell adult if you know you’re just passing through. It’s a temporary gig.
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The definition of adult, of course, is someone who is uptight and takes things seriously.
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So matter of fact, you can dress up like an adult and you can go into the adult hive and
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you can play that with more success because they really take it so seriously and they
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can’t move or
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change. And change is the name of the development game.
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Now I want to use these notions of neoteny and pedomorphosis and adolescent commitment
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for practical politics. My friends, there’s one minority group in this country which does not have
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its civil rights.
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There’s one large minority group
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in this country
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which is living
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in total repression.
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Now, the reason that this large
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and tremendously important
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minority group
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is kept without the ballot
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and without civil rights,
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the adults who run the Hive
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use the same line
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that they’ve used before.
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They used it to the Irish Catholics in Ireland and England.
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They used it to the blacks until recently in this country.
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They used it against women.
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You’re not ready to handle adult responsibility.
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But step by step, each of these large minority groups has made its, has demonstrated its interest in and its readiness to take
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over responsibility, the obvious conclusion is that the political movement of the 80s
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is going to be a youth movement.
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Why shouldn’t, why shouldn’t the voting age start at seven?
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voting age start at seven.
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Well, at seven, they can’t read Time magazine.
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Well, at seven, well, they’re not married.
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Well, does that mean you have to be married to vote?
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You know, you go right down the list of all the arguments used to keep the vote away from young people, from the key segment of the population that’s ready to grow, and
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you’ll find that if you use those same criteria, you will knock out most of the current voters.
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So I suspect that in the 1980s, you’re going to have the classic situation.
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The key, of course, to intelligence increase in this country is
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power to the individuals and power, consumer power, to young people. When young people
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are caught on now that because they have consumer power, people are listening to them. Now,
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the youth movement in the 1980s was, of course, split, as all political movements do, into a radical group and a conservative group of young people.
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The conservative young people will talk quietly to parents and will have meetings and so forth.
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The radical group will do such things as, can you imagine 5,000 six-year-old kids in the Senate chambers refusing to go?
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And international television watching the police ejecting seven-year-old kids in the Senate chambers refusing to go. And international television watching the police ejecting these 7-year-olds.
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Well, I leave it to your imagination,
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the techniques which can be used by intelligent young people,
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asserting their competence and their…
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Of course, it’s again true that we deliberately,
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we deliberately keep kids dumb by treating them like kids.
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And it’s obvious and well-known that the more choice and option you give to any group,
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sure, they’ll make mistakes.
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Sure, they’ll do like every one of our groups have done.
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It’ll take them some time, but… Now, here’s the way I see the scenario going down. I see in the
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1980 election a total defeat for the juvenile vote. By 1984, however, the youth activism,
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militant terrorists nine years old
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putting sugar in gas tanks
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and God knows what they’ll do to the adults
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will lead to a backlash
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and to the surprise of everyone
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in the 1984 election
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Ronald Reagan will be elected
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on his program of firm
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but stern brat control
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after the impeachment of Reagan in 86 firm but stern brat control.
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After the impeachment of Reagan in 86,
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the next election will be Tatum O’Neill versus Brooke Shields,
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who are clear and classic,
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futique expressions of the next political movement.
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Well, you know, talking politics in a feisty town like San Francisco is always reckless.
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I think that one of the great things happening in this country today is a disillusion with politics. Anytime you get a highly educated, affluent, free, independent, fast-moving populace,
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and they start not voting.
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You know, in the last election, less than a third of the voters voted.
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In the 1976 election, more people decided to stay home than voted for Jimmy or the other guy’s name.
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What does that mean?
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It means that more people in 1976, the 200th year of our republic,
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decided they had more important things to do that day for their own personal growth, to make some money, to keep their own rally going,
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to do something for a loved one or a friend,
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than to go to a polling booth under the illusion that voting for Jimmy or Jerry was going to change anything.
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We all know that if voting for Jimmy or Jerry would change anything, it would be illegal.
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Pardon?
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Yeah, well, we’re at a moment now where, you know, all the polls show that American people have no confidence in the great bureaucracies.
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They have these ballots that say 17% of the American people like the Democratic Party,
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11% have any confidence in the Republican Party, 12% for big labor, 12% for big government.
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As a matter of fact, it turns out that doctors and bankers at 18% are our most respected institutions, because you have a 50-50 chance of getting quaaludes or cashing a check.
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I don’t know what that means.
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Space migration.
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Yeah.
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The key to space migration, intelligence increase, and life extension is genetic.
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These things don’t operate separately.
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When it’s time for us to leave the water, we had to develop at one flash literally hundreds
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of thousands of new technologies and neurotechnologies.
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And I want to tell you that the same dialogue, the same debate, the same genetic issues and
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politics have been going on step by step as we move from unicellular form up to the present.
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And I think it’s important that we be able to feel in our own nervous systems that evolution has always involved people like us getting together as we are tonight,
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figuring out where we came from and who’s slowing us down and what’s the factual evidence as to how fast and where we can move.
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And what’s the factual evidence as to how fast and where we can move?
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For example, one time, with the same situation we have on this planet,
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of overpopulation, pollution, decreasing natural resources existed at the first stage of life on this planet where we’re all underground.
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You remember that time when we were all unicellular creatures?
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Now, I’m not here to knock unicellular forms of life.
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There are no good guys or bad guys in this scenario.
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to knock unicellular forms of life.
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There are no good guys or bad guys in this scenario.
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The unicellular form of life
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does nothing but float and suck.
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It’s got a one-dimension brain.
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The sex life is interesting.
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You clone.
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There’s one of you
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and there’s two of you
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and there’s four of you
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and there’s eight of you.
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Now, that’s wonderful.
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Unicellular, unisexual division
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is a fine technique used by DNA when
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it’s time to really populate a niche. And we’re all going to be cloning each other when
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the time comes to move off this planet. So I’m not knocking cloning. But the problem
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with cloning or unicellular sex is, yeah, it’s great because you don’t have to worry
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about a date on Saturday night. There’s no Lee Marvin suits when it’s all over. However, it gets a little boring. So,
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when it’s time to slow down a rate of growth and when it’s time for DNA to improve
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neurotechnology, then you get the sort of evolution we’ve been through. Now, listen, the amoebas didn’t want that to happen.
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The adult authorities of amoebas went through the same thing in the pre-Cambrian situations
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we’re going through now.
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The amoeba police said, dangerous reports are coming about young amoebas hanging around
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shallow lagoons ingesting a dangerous drug called calcium.
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Calcium.
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The AMA, that’s the Amoeba Medical Association, has conclusively demonstrated
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that calcium causes head-tail symmetry, causes bones to grow. You know what? Your young amoebas
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have bones and muscles. Why, some amoebas have been known to ingest this dangerous drug, calcium,
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and swim away from the home nest, never to be seen again.
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And amoeba theologians have clearly set the situation right when they say,
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if God had intended amoebas to grow bones, she would not have made calcium illegal.
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illegal.
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Now, I don’t have to tell a sophisticated crowd like this how we went from calcium ingestion
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to oxygen sniffing
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and up the chain of biochemical intelligence.
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The whole thing is genetic.
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Listen, we’re not going to move into space
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because some male macho militarist in the Pentagon
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or the KGB think it’s time to move guns up there.
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Sperm intelligence is great.
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Sperm intelligence moves out
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and establishes the first niches and so forth.
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Every species, every tribe, every gene pool.
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Oh, at this moment, I must pay tribute to a very honored guest tonight,
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Robert Anton Wilson and Arlen Wilson.
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Stand up.
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Arlen.
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One of the great heroes of our time.
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Author of the Illuminatus, Cosmic Trigger,
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The Universe Next Door.
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What should I talk about, Robert?
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Oh, he wants more oxygen sniffing.
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The adult hive, it’s all defined this way.
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The adults who run the hive naturally have to put up every barrier to change.
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You know, they’re robot-programmed to do that. No good guys, bad guys. There are some of us who are
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robot-programmed to be what I call outcasts. Every successful sperm-egg ship has to have its
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people up there looking forward and sending back information as to where the next ecological niche is going. Because I’m ready to say it flat out,
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they accused us of this when we left the water.
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They said we were cop-outs.
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When we left the shoreline and developed our fur coats and binocular vision,
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they said we were copping out using terrible new technology.
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When we stood erect, they said you’re copping out,
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getting high that way with a backbone standing up.
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They’ve been telling us, and I’ll tell you right now, admit it, it’s an escape trip. said you’re copping out, getting high that way with a backbone standing up, you know.
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They’ve been telling us, and I’ll tell you right now, admit it, it’s an escape trip.
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The people who know how to, you know, the smartest, the most courageous, people that like themselves and love their loved ones, don’t want to stay around and fight over the
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barnyard.
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Move out.
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Keep one step ahead of them.
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We don’t have to fight them because we’re smarter than they are. And we’re always sending them back.
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We’re always sending them back signals. We’re always sending them back. We’re doing it for
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them. Those of us that are outcasts, that are future people. And it’s our time, my friends.
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You know, there are times in history for centuries and nothing happens except one duke has changed
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by another baron and so forth. But this is a time when the outcasts and the future castes and those who, and by the way,
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there’s no genetic thing here. Everyone in this room is carrying in his DNA and her DNA
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the machinery for a building in 19, 20th century, in the 21st century, in the 23rd century reality.
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Now, sure, we’re going to change morphologically during that
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period, but the neurological equipment is there. That’s what LSV is all about in psychedelic drugs.
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Do you know about how the DNA operates when you were a little baby? You didn’t know anything
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about disco. All you could do was lie on your mother’s arms.
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Your calcium habit, you know, got your bones to grow.
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But the way evolution works, see, the evolutionary, the DNA strand, the future of your life is a spool and is protected by what are called histone proteins.
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It’s a sheath.
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is protected by what are called histone proteins.
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It’s a sheath.
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And there are certain specific anti-histone proteins usually coming from pollution.
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What’s pollution?
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Pollution is the signal to peel off the next layer. So that step by step, as each one of us grew, a new link in the histone protein coverage
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was peeled off and we started moving around. We went to first grade.
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We went to high school. When we got to the high school, an enormous metamorphosis took place.
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Sperm egg rallies took over. This was all pre-programmed. Well, there’s no reason. I think
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it’s a very amusing hypothesis with a lot of scientific muscle behind it to suggest that
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everyone in this room is carrying around in the other section of your nervous system and in the unpeeled off sections of your DNA a future neurotechnology.
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And, you know, it’s simply more fun to have a nervous system ahead of the DOM species
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than I think.
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We have no choice about it anyway.
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Okay.
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See, there’s always what Robert Anton Wilson has called neophobia.
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There’s this obsessive fear of the future. Back in the 60s, I went to the Hudson Institute,
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Herman Kahn. We had our intelligence agent penetrate the Pentagon and the KGV. Those
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mothers had no plan for the future except the next election, and that’s rocket anti-ballistic
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missile. They don’t care about the future.
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For the last 3,000 years,
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our hives have been run
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by what are called stoics.
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A stoic is a person
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that says,
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well,
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the motherfucker barbarians
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are going to get us
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in a decade or two,
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but let’s keep the thing going
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one more generation.
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How noble Kissinger is.
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Kissinger knows
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that, you know,
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his wife is going to get it,
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but keep it going
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until we get our pension checks, baby, and then forget it, right? Well, we’re coming to the point
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where we realize that, you know, the future belongs to those who see the future. The only
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interesting thing to do is to start building the future, because nobody knows. They know the clue,
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so that those of us that are here tonight can begin thinking about creating,
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and I don’t mean, you know, better supermarkets.
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It’s genetics.
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Okay, space migration.
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Genetics.
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We’re not going to go into space because the aerospace companies want us to go there.
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We’re not going to go into space because, sure, we can bring down solar satellite power energy.
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We can totally solve the energy problems of this planet
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within 10 or 15 years.
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Of course, the Arabs don’t like that.
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PG&E doesn’t like that.
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But we’re not going to do this for PG&E.
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We’re not going to do this for the Pentagon.
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We’re not going to do it for satellite communication. We’re not going to do this for the Pentagon We’re not going to do it for satellite communication
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We’re not going to do it for the acrobatic male macho astronauts
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We’re going to move into high orbit
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When the women of the Sun Belt in America
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Realize that it’s time to move
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It’s always been that way
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The first wave is always male macho
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The Greek astronauts
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of Homer, you know, wine, dark sea
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and all that stuff, they were fighting and raping
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in the Homeric days, but the real issue
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didn’t come until the ships
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went with the children
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and the grandmothers
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until the big, great
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egg ship moves. And the egg ship
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is going to move when it’s time to move.
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In the 70s too, in this country was an interesting thing, you know.
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One of the greatest genetic experiments in the history of our planet occurred in the
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last 400 years, South America and North America.
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Now, South America was built up, invaded and built up by men sent from Madrid and from Lisbon,
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speaking Spanish and Portuguese.
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And they didn’t go over there to start new lifestyles or to have a frontier of growth
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or to have individual new lifestyles developed.
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They went over there to get the gold, to build the cathedrals in Toledo.
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They went back over there to preach their religion, their monotheistic religion to the natives.
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The key to the South American experiment was they didn’t bring the women.
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It was not an egg of wisdom.
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It was a sperm adventure.
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And the heritage of that still exists today.
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Now, on the North American continent, you know, it was dissonant, dissonant species groups.
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It was William Penn and the Mrs. Penn and the Quakers who were kicked out of England.
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They were wild, hippy-dippy spiritualists.
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They came to Pennsylvania.
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The Pilgrim Mothers and Fathers were out, you know, against the Church of England.
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They went to Holland.
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They were persecuted.
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They exiled.
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The history
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of this movement westward has been, sure, when we came west, it was the male macho John
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Wayne shooting them up and all that. But nothing happens that way. Nothing happens until the
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great egg ship moves westward. So space migration is going to happen, it’s going to happen quickly, when the women understand that the best place to make love is in zero or multiple gravity.
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That the best place to raise children is in a place where you’re surrounded, you’re interacting with people who share your particular vision.
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Because the key, and this is what they don’t like about space migration,
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the civilian aspect of it.
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See, the real political scandal right now is this.
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In the last, what is it, five or six months, Robert,
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the Carter administration has for the first time instituted the military control of NASA.
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They’re cutting down on all those civilian flights on the shuttle.
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About two years ago, they said that high school kids could,
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for a small amount of money, send up their experiment. No more of that, my friends. NASA is now being run by
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Pentagon people. They don’t want dissidents. They don’t want egg wisdom toy this psychological niche Hi, Jackie starship
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Well when the Jefferson airplane changed its name that was the sign it was going to happen
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Another political issue of of course, is drugs. It’s interesting, the drug issue was
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always there. It’s the one thing that none of the politicians will talk about.
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I would say that, you wonder why people are disillusioned with their
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government, you know, talking about Prop 13, 35 to 45 million people are paying taxes to a government that’s putting Paraquat on their marijuana.
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The real scandal about drugs, and we’ve known it, everyone’s realized it for a decade,
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is that drug research is just beginning, that they are in the laboratories and in the experimental rooms in Basel, Switzerland, as well as in
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this country, scientists working, pharmacologists working, developing an enormous repertoire
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of new drugs that will make you smarter, that will give you memory, that will make you forget,
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that will make you horny, that will, of course, the key.
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Yeah, I don’t know if I told you this, but I had about three interviews on television before I came out here.
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Did I tell about experimental drugs?
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Yeah.
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Oh, yeah, all right.
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Well, when I got out of prison
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I started telling you
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because I didn’t finish the story
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I think someone interrupted
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when I got out of prison
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people would ask me
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if I used any drugs
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and I said I didn’t use any drugs
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remember I said that
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I didn’t use any drugs
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that were illegal
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well now
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I look right in the camera
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and I say
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yes Barbara and I
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use a lot of
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very powerful drugs
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they’re new drugs
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experimental drugs
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that will put our heads exactly in place where we want to.
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And who can complain because you don’t know about them and they’re not illegal.
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I think it’s a scandal that our government, forget the government,
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is stopping research on neurological and neurotransmitter drugs
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that can give the American people the option of putting their brain
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exactly in the kind of area of intelligence and of mood.
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There’s simply no excuse for any American to have his or her head where she doesn’t want it to be.
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And this is…
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And I say, we all know
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that. We were saying that in the 60s, but now it’s kind of
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cliché to say it. But still,
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it hasn’t happened.
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You know,
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they’re not letting progress…
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And of course, the greatest scandal of all when you come to politics
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is life
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extension. Paul Siegel over in Berkeley
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and Robert Anton Wilson,
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a key intelligence center
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for longevity research.
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Roy Wofford in UCLA.
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There are dozens, scores of scientists
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in this country.
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And if you ask them this question,
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how long before we can get a pill
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that will double the human lifespan?
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The answer is to come back
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two to ten years.
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How is it going to happen?
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This is the interesting thing.
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There are eight different scientific scenarios suggested by top university scientists.
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And these are not off-the-wall people, because the off-the-wall people already know it.
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I’m talking about respectable hive people. Full-fledged tenure
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cast of engineers. They’ll say two to ten years we can have a pill that’ll double
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your lifespan. And how? Eight different ways. Immunology. Maybe that it’s our immune systems that we that may be aging in death is simply because our cells don’t
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Recognize our own cells our cells don’t love us that much and they simply don’t keep us immune
00:28:54 ►
There’s another theory that it’s the genetic RNA DNA
00:28:58 ►
Antihistone protein approach Paul Siegel has been keeping rats
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More than what double their lifespan in Berkeley
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using diet, which means chemicals. I just heard, maybe you can confirm this, Robert,
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I was told, I think Saul Kent told Jay Levy, that they got a new drug that may be the drug that will produce rejuvenation and longevity.
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And it’s like a first cousin of lysergic acid. Well, what do you want, controversy?
00:29:53 ►
You want CIA jokes?
00:29:58 ►
You know, when we came to Harvard in 1960,
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sent under assignment by galactic egg intelligence,
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the thing about Harvard is if you’re sent to a planet,
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it’s all in the navigation guidebooks they give you in Space Academy.
00:30:17 ►
So you take a planet like ours and you want to bring about an evolutionary mutational change.
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Where do you go?
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Well, you don’t go to Washington.
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You don’t go to Rome. Listen, suppose you had one million doses of LSD and your assignment
00:30:33 ►
on this planet was in five years you had to mutate the whole planet. Well, I wouldn’t use
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those million doses in India because they’d gobble them up and the trains would run better.
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They did have LSD in that, you know, that ergot of rye scandal when the bread in France, and they all began jumping out of the church windows.
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That’s premature post-terrestrial activity.
00:31:14 ►
The key to getting high is that you are transcending gravity.
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No accident.
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These cliches, these folk myths.
00:31:23 ►
Why say getting high?
00:31:25 ►
Well, that’s no accident.
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As they say, the trajectory of intelligence is that we’re getting higher.
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The smarter you are, the higher you want to be.
00:31:35 ►
That’s obvious.
00:31:39 ►
You know, not sort of going out, out, out all the time. The key to neurological navigation is to be able to voyage into exactly the circus of your brain
00:31:51 ►
that you want to be, exactly when you want to be there and with whom you want to be there.
00:31:56 ►
So anyway, when we came to Harvard in 1960,
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the psychotropic drugs and their effects had been known for centuries, for millennia, for thousands of years.
00:32:08 ►
Whenever an empire got to a point when they conquered everything, there was no more barnyard, terrestrial games to play,
00:32:14 ►
then the next wave comes in.
00:32:18 ►
If you control everything out there, if you control the army, the navy, the air force, the chariots, you know, all that, what
00:32:25 ►
do you want to do?
00:32:26 ►
Well, inevitably, in these great empires in the past, in China, the Mongol emperors in
00:32:29 ►
India, throughout the Middle East, they started making inward voyages using the obvious locomotion
00:32:38 ►
for neurological voyaging.
00:32:41 ►
So that the fact that drugs could change your mind, that drugs could enhance
00:32:45 ►
beauty and eroticism, and that could broaden your mind, it’s been known for thousands of
00:32:51 ►
years. When we went to Harvard, for example, there were over 1,500 scientific reports on
00:32:59 ►
LSD alone. But the problem was that these reports did not tell anything about what
00:33:05 ►
had happened because the doctors, the psychiatrists who gave these experiments,
00:33:11 ►
gave the drug to other people. Now of course it’s no accident that all the LSD
00:33:18 ►
research that had preceded our arrival at Harvard was sponsored by an
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organization who has made possible our being here tonight.
00:33:25 ►
I refer, of course, to the CIA.
00:33:29 ►
In the 1950s, when most of us were, you know, listening to Elvis and Neil Sedaka and, you know, Eisenhower and whatever,
00:33:40 ►
there was one boom of consumerism in the 50s that was fantastic.
00:33:44 ►
You know, automobiles. There was one boom of consumerism in the 50s that was fantastic.
00:33:45 ►
Automobiles.
00:33:50 ►
Every working woman and man in the country got an automobile with a driver’s seat.
00:33:55 ►
And accelerators and shifting gears and transmission.
00:33:58 ►
Europeans say, you can’t do that.
00:34:04 ►
You can’t let the working man and woman have a self-mover putting them in the driver’s seat.
00:34:05 ►
Well, if you do that,
00:34:07 ►
the kids will get in the driver’s seat.
00:34:08 ►
You know where they’ll go and what they’ll do.
00:34:09 ►
So all this 50s consumerism,
00:34:12 ►
there was one group of Americans
00:34:13 ►
who were not indulging themselves.
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I refer, of course,
00:34:17 ►
to our friends in the CIA
00:34:18 ►
who were sending their agents
00:34:20 ►
up the Amazon headwaters
00:34:22 ►
through South Africa,
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through South Seas.
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There was not one root or vine or mushroom or nut or vegetable in the world
00:34:31 ►
they didn’t bring into their laboratories to figure out how they could fuck our heads up with it.
00:34:36 ►
They were going to drop it in the water supply of Russia.
00:34:38 ►
That was the scenario. Remember that?
00:34:41 ►
Well, when we came to Harvard, there was a lot of research done,
00:34:47 ►
that? Well, when we came to Harvard, there was a lot of research done, but it wasn’t time until the 1960s when the consumerism of the 50s, the average American young person had an automobile,
00:34:54 ►
knew how to move their body around, knew their, you know, in a car, so the next step of body
00:35:00 ►
consumerism and brain consumerism. We didn’t do anything.
00:35:05 ►
It was time for that to happen.
00:35:07 ►
It’s always happened in times when the species is about to move out.
00:35:10 ►
So, of course, the key to the 60s, as we see it now, was a period of self-discovery, of self-indulgence, and a refusal to accept the adult hive over-specialized models.
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I remember when we first came to Harvard, there was a man named Dr. Max Rinkle.
00:35:44 ►
Has anyone here ever heard that name? Yeah. Dr. Max Rinkle was a psychiatrist at Harvard that did everything in his power to cause us trouble. He was writing letters and editorials in the Harvard Alumni Association, in the New England Journal of Medicine. He did his best politically to get us kicked out of Harvard and so forth. And years later, I was in Boston and I had a taxi driver. And as he was driving back to the airport, the
00:36:12 ►
taxi driver looked at me. He’s an old fellow, about 65, an Irish, wizened up Irishman. And he
00:36:17 ►
pulled the car to the side of the comrade. He said, listen, I got to talk to you. I said, yeah,
00:36:23 ►
what do you want to say, Pat?
00:36:26 ►
He said, do you know
00:36:26 ►
that I was probably
00:36:27 ►
the first American
00:36:28 ►
to ever take LSD?
00:36:31 ►
I said, do you tell me that, Pat?
00:36:34 ►
How’d that happen?
00:36:35 ►
He said, well,
00:36:36 ►
did you ever hear the name
00:36:37 ►
of Dr. Max Rinkle?
00:36:38 ►
I said, yes,
00:36:39 ►
the gray fox
00:36:40 ►
of the Harvard Medical School.
00:36:41 ►
I know him well.
00:36:43 ►
Because here’s what
00:36:43 ►
Dr. Max Rinkle
00:36:44 ►
and the other CIA psychiatrists would do in the 1950s. They would go over to a place
00:36:51 ►
in Europe which, as Rome is to the Catholic and as Mecca is to the Islamic follower, this
00:37:01 ►
city is to the doper. refer of course not to San Francisco
00:37:05 ►
but to Basel, Switzerland
00:37:07 ►
now
00:37:09 ►
in Basel, Switzerland
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the
00:37:12 ►
in Switzerland the situation is
00:37:14 ►
you go to Zurich for money
00:37:15 ►
you go to Geneva for
00:37:16 ►
diplomacy and espionage
00:37:19 ►
you go to Basel for drugs
00:37:20 ►
my friends
00:37:21 ►
in the great laboratories
00:37:24 ►
of Siebegeige and Sandoz and the other Swiss
00:37:27 ►
companies, there are laboratories, there are storehouses, there are warehouses, there are
00:37:31 ►
locked rooms which contain drugs that would baffle and boggle our minds. It is said,
00:37:38 ►
rumor has it, the legend goes like this, that in the high valleys around Basel, Switzerland,
00:37:49 ►
there are alpine villages where the inhabitants have not drawn an unhallucinated breath in
00:37:55 ►
five hundred years. However, until the 1960s, with this mass, neoteny revolt of the larvals and the sexually
00:38:11 ►
activated pre-adults, until that time, drugs which changed the mind were always the province
00:38:19 ►
of the Sultan, the Duke, the opium aristocrats of Europe, the Hashishin clubs,
00:38:27 ►
all those titled English poets from Oxford and Cambridge who would have their loudnum and so forth.
00:38:34 ►
It was always something that you didn’t want the working class to know about.
00:38:39 ►
You didn’t want the working class to know there was a way to satisfy yourself,
00:38:42 ►
a way to indulge yourself that didn’t require
00:38:45 ►
trucking off to the steel mill or doing what the, you know, why? The last gasp of the adult
00:38:55 ►
authority happened the year, actually, that we started our research at Harvard. It’s almost
00:39:00 ►
no accident the precision of how these things operate. The last gasp of the adult authority of the United States came in the inauguration of President John Kennedy in 1960,
00:39:15 ►
when he said, do you believe this? He said, ask not what the hive can do for you, but what you can do for the hive.
00:39:24 ►
Not what the hive can do for you, but what you can do for the hive.
00:39:28 ►
2,000 years of Judeo-Christian ethic, of suffering.
00:39:31 ►
You’re fucked. You’re not supposed to have a good time.
00:39:32 ►
What do you think, it’s a pleasure trip?
00:39:37 ►
You did something wrong. You don’t know what it is, but you’re cursed forever.
00:39:41 ►
Now maybe if you play ball, keep cool, don’t cause any trouble, work hard,
00:39:46 ►
maybe we’ll ship your sperm and egg supply to another place.
00:40:10 ►
Well, the key to space migration, the key to intelligent crease, which means learning how to use the nervous system and learning which neurotechnologies and neurotransmitter drugs or techniques, bioelectric feedback.
00:40:16 ►
There are literally hundreds of techniques now that can and are going to be used to increase our intelligence.
00:40:45 ►
Now, I don’t mean the intelligence measured on tests by middle class intellectual, with pen and paper. I mean intelligence in the sense of getting control of your own brain, getting control of your own reality, and using’m sure this is true of almost everyone in this room,
00:40:47 ►
slowly, step by step,
00:40:48 ►
we’ve had to overthrow 2,000 years of this heritage
00:40:50 ►
that somehow we’re wrong
00:40:51 ►
and that we’re not good people
00:40:53 ►
and we’re not lovable people.
00:40:54 ►
You know, so we’re step by step,
00:40:56 ►
like undoing buildings,
00:40:57 ►
we had to un-carpent our way through this.
00:41:00 ►
So everything that we’re talking about tonight
00:41:01 ►
has to do with basically,
00:41:04 ►
basically, basically liking yourself and taking responsibility for your own situation.
00:41:13 ►
I know there are thousands, thousands of people and hundreds of teachers that are going around preaching self-actualization.
00:41:22 ►
And this, I mean, whatever you want to get it, great.
00:41:26 ►
But I’m talking not about being a better middle-class robot.
00:41:36 ►
I’m talking about the tradition that we have going in this room tonight,
00:41:41 ►
which has gone back for thousands of years,
00:41:44 ►
which has probably gone back as long as the history
00:41:45 ►
of biological species on the planet has gone,
00:41:48 ►
of self-actualized species,
00:41:51 ►
the self-actualized cast,
00:41:52 ►
getting to a certain point where they say,
00:41:54 ►
listen, we’ve got to do it.
00:41:59 ►
This young man that said to me,
00:42:01 ►
when are they going to come?
00:42:02 ►
Well, listen, I’m sure you’re with me.
00:42:05 ►
If that UFO came down here right now
00:42:07 ►
with its platinum golden staircase
00:42:09 ►
and they came down and said, you want to come?
00:42:11 ►
I’m sure I’d go, you’d go, we’d all go.
00:42:16 ►
However, there’s one uneasy thought I have.
00:42:21 ►
It sounds to me that the UFO,
00:42:24 ►
higher intelligence coming down here
00:42:26 ►
may be just another soporific, sedative, cargo cult, messianic theory that someone up there
00:42:38 ►
is going to do something for us. It may turn out that the thing’s been planned.
00:42:47 ►
Yeah, there is a species of higher intelligence that zaps around from planet to planet and comes down to make blockbusting movies.
00:42:56 ►
There may be one planet where people are running around the galaxy, you know, turning people on and activating and so forth.
00:43:07 ►
But maybe it’s us.
00:43:14 ►
You know, it’s my reality and I can write history the way I want to.
00:43:20 ►
So as I read my own history, I see the way it’s always been in cities like San Francisco, people like us getting together and hillsides and so forth, bringing us up to date as to where the thing is going.
00:43:33 ►
And saying, well, you know, they say that the fruit grows on the trees and the nuts are on the trees because we do munga bunga to the God.
00:43:43 ►
But maybe if we planted these seeds, we could do it.
00:43:47 ►
Hey, you can’t do that. They’ll bust your ass if you plant seeds.
00:43:50 ►
Well, so we get a little ecological niche and we try it out.
00:43:54 ►
And sure, lo and behold, agriculture.
00:43:55 ►
Because some intelligent, probably women, but men and women back there,
00:44:00 ►
had the guts to go against the priesthood of the time and say it’s not munga-bunga up there.
00:44:06 ►
It’s groping human intelligence, trusting, taking risks to do it.
00:44:10 ►
The first people who used fire, you know, Prometheus, they gave him a 30-year sentence for discovering fire.
00:44:19 ►
Well, it’s another male macho trick.
00:44:21 ►
I think fire was probably invented by a woman or a man that loved a woman.
00:44:30 ►
Sitting around watching, saying, well, we have to wait for the lightning to come.
00:44:34 ►
It’s not Jove up there doing it.
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We can use that brand.
00:44:38 ►
We can cook with it.
00:44:40 ►
We can fashion.
00:44:41 ►
We can be warm with it.
00:44:42 ►
We can keep the light going in the night.
00:44:44 ►
We can have parties all night in the cave.
00:44:51 ►
We can make beautiful works of art with that on the walls.
00:44:54 ►
Took guts to do that. Greek. Listen, the old histories of the religions, they’re not screwing around.
00:45:00 ►
They busted Prometheus for doing what we’re doing tonight.
00:45:07 ►
around. They busted Prometheus for doing what we’re doing tonight. The conquest of disease.
00:45:12 ►
Robert H. Wilson has written over and over again about our friend Simmelweis, who was busted and driven into insanity because he said that you should wash your hands before you delivered a
00:45:17 ►
baby. Well, you weren’t going to tell the AMA of Vienna who, you know, in those days a surgeon was
00:45:23 ►
known because he smelled of pus.
00:45:26 ►
You were going to tell them they had to wash their hands like a peasant.
00:45:32 ►
So it’s a long tradition of, listen, we don’t want to run anyone’s country.
00:45:39 ►
We don’t take anything away from anybody.
00:45:40 ►
But there is a tradition of of people who have
00:45:47 ►
confidence the like I’m personally insulted that it rains on Barbara and I
00:45:54 ►
we want to play tennis what are we in quite primitive savages we can’t control
00:45:58 ►
the weather I’m insulted to have to be down here to one gravity-gravity planet, a swamp like a slug,
00:46:07 ►
down here 4,000 miles, creeping around the bottom of an atmosphere well.
00:46:12 ►
I’m a high-flying creature.
00:46:14 ►
Barbara’s higher than I am.
00:46:16 ►
It’s an insult that 75% of my energy in years goes into walking, lifting.
00:46:22 ►
Look at this building.
00:46:23 ►
It’s all set up to fight gravity.
00:46:24 ►
Well, it’s an insult to be trapped in this prison planet.
00:46:28 ►
Cloning.
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I told you DNA is going to be the big political issue in the future.
00:46:32 ►
Cloning.
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When we’re talking about taboos, my friends,
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it’s our professional job to lead some hive members to the door that says taboo.
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Let’s peek around and look at it.
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Show me a taboo, and I’m interested in it.
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Yeah.
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Now, when the scientist cast comes up with a new technology, immediately the military
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and the old guys who run the hive take it over.
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And they scare us.
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See, we can’t go into space.
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I’m not an Air Force cadet.
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You’re not an astronaut.
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You know, you’ve got to be a Pentagon kid to go into space, right?
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Same thing with genetic engineering. Genetic simply means that DNA
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has programmed us to get to a point where we’re virtuous enough and intelligent enough
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and understand her flower intelligence. The flower kingdom plays a heavy-duty role in
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the evolution of mammalian species. I need not cite the fact that every neurotransmitter is a signal sent by the flower kingdom
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to these stupid animals up there, right?
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So, we get to DNA taboo.
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That’s the heaviest two of all.
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Because that’s the place where we are, are we?
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That’s the place where we are, are we?
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Are we going to tamper with a genetic spool that says we have to die at 75,
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that after 45 you have to get menopausal and vote for Regan?
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DNA is a program that when the time is ready, all the signals are coming in, overpopulation, pollution, swarming.
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Swarming is the key to the next move. We get to the point where we say, yeah, we’re virtuous enough and we’re intelligent enough working together openly, not in secret, to clone ourselves.
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Now, I love myself.
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I love Barbara.
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And I love my friends.
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We’re going to clone ourselves.
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We’re going to send out rockets, little ones, small ones, out there.
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Because I think any planet would be better off having us there.
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would be better off having us there.
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Now, if we’re wrong, and our seeds land on the planet,
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they look at it and say, well, good God,
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here’s another 60s acid-head messianic person thinking he’s going to see, oh, if that’s not supposed to be,
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that’s the way it’s going to be.
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But did that happen to us? Yeah. When I go to the
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more naive eastern provinces, you know, most of those kids were in junior high school,
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grammar school in the 60s, and they don’t know who I am. They think the 60s are a bunch of naughty kids throwing rocks.
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I mean, you know, and they’re confused about what’s out there.
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I say, well, you’ve heard a lot of images and a lot of stories about me and this and
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that and so on.
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Well, the true facts of the matter are this, that back in 1960, Harvard University, our
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crack team was working on some neurogenic experiments.
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The experiments succeeded, and I was cloned.
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What time is it?
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Twelve after ten?
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Thank you.
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Oh, my love, thank you.
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Thank you.
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We’re going to a party at Bimbo’s now.
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I thank you and wish you all good night.
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You’re listening to The Psychedelic Salon,
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where people are changing their lives one thought at a time.
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And so they moved the party to Bimbo’s.
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And while I’ve never been there myself,
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I do notice that Bimbo’s in San Francisco still seems to be going strong.
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So maybe when you’re in the area the next time,
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you can stop by and have a refreshing beverage in memory of the good doctor.
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Or better yet, just stay home and have a bag of vape in his memory.
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That’s even better.
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So what did you think about his prediction that we’d have a pill to double our lifespan by the 1990s?
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Now, if such a pill does exist, well, I haven’t heard about it yet out here in
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California. And to tell you the truth, I’m not so sure that I’d want to take one of them if
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they actually did exist. You know, I’m already wearing down, and the thought of having to go
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on for another 68 years is something I’d have to give a lot of thought to before committing to such
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a radical course of action.
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And from conversations I’ve had with many of my friends about this, my thinking isn’t that far out of line.
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You know, even when you’re playing an exciting online game, after a few years, don’t you
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get a little tired of your current avatar and even of the game itself?
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current avatar, and even of the game itself.
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Now, depending on how you view this life,
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one way is to think of it as a really long game.
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And from that point of view, I think it’s easy to see that not everybody would want to keep playing twice as long as what they first planned on,
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especially if they keep getting beaten down by the bad guys.
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But, hey, one person’s bad guy is another person’s hero.
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It’s a complicated game, this Earth game, isn’t it?
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Now, as to the reason for my long delay in getting this podcast out,
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well, first of all, I started to produce another Aldous Huxley show
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and got about halfway through editing a recording of one of his talks when I
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decided to abandon it and start over. And it wasn’t because I’m not a big fan of Huxley. In fact,
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he’s been as big an influence on me as Terrence McKenna, perhaps even more of an influence now
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that I think about it. But Aldous was a writer and Terence was a bard.
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You see, the Huxley lecture was just a recording of him reading one of his essays.
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And while the content was really superb, his reading was so very slow that I was losing the thread of his talk. So I’ve decided that unless I come across another Huxley interview or some talk that is a little more extemporaneous,
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that I’ll restrict my Aldous Huxley input to his written word.
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However, that’s not the main reason for my long silence.
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What also happens is that our WordPress blog, where I post the program notes for these podcasts,
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and where a significant number of our fellow salonners still download their programs each week,
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well, it’s more or less out of commission.
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You know, the site works okay right now,
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but a few weeks ago it locked up and wouldn’t permit me, the system admin,
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to upgrade one of the pages.
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And while I was working on that little problem,
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it finally decided that it wouldn’t even allow me to make a new post.
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In other words, even though I have dashboard access,
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there is nothing I can do from there.
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Now, I’ve still got a couple ideas about how to fix it,
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but if they don’t work, I’ll put out a special tech support email address
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in my next podcast where you or one of our WordPress SQL experts can show me the error of my ways. Thank you. and I know that there are way more messages there than I’m going to be able to get to for quite a while,
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and so your helpful hints could be buried in the mail somewhere.
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You know, I’ve been a geek all my life, and I really used to enjoy learning new software and debugging problems,
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but that’s another thing that seems to be changing for me.
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For about a week now, every time I thought about all the buggy problems on my websites,
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I turned off my computer, picked up a book, and did some more reading.
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And after only a week of that, I’m finding it difficult to even force myself to turn on my
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computer. Here, all these years, I thought that it was computers and the internet that was my first
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love. But now I’m finding that I’ve come full circle
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back to my real first love, which are books.
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But never fear, I’m not going to quit doing these podcasts any time in the immediate future,
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because in spite of the technical pain and agony, I have to admit that right at this
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very moment, sitting here at my desk in front of this little microphone, I feel better than
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at any time in the past three weeks.
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Can’t say why, but it really is good to be back here in the salon with you right now.
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Now, one more thing before I go, and that is the possibility of some kind of an event
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in the UK this coming summer.
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I’ll be talking with Bruce Stamer later today, and from what I gather
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from the message he left for me last night, it seems that there’s a festival going on in England
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right around the middle of July, and that now seems to be the target for a get-together with
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Bruce. However, my own plans are still up in the air, but I hope to have a little more to say about
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that in one of the next podcasts.
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I’ll try to get back over to the forums at thegrowreport.com later this week and answer some messages that I know are waiting for me there. And the same goes for Facebook email.
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I guess I should mention something about Facebook for my friends over there.
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I really do appreciate all of the invites to join groups and attend events, but
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I just don’t have the time it takes to even read all of the invites, let alone respond to them.
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Last time I looked, I had, I think, 32 event suggestions and 81 other requests that
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I haven’t had a chance to click through. So I do appreciate you thinking of me, but
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please don’t take offense if
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I don’t have the bandwidth to personally stay in touch with you and everyone else. I’d really like
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to get to know better. But as my dear departed mother sometimes said, what counts is what you
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do with what you’ve got. And so, like you, I’m going to keep on keeping on. And that means I should keep on trying to fix this crazy website, huh?
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So, I’ll close today’s podcast and get back to debugging
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after first reminding you that this and most of the podcasts from the Psychedelic Salon
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are freely available for you to use in your own audio projects
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under the Creative Commons Attribution Non-Commercial ShareAlike 3.0 license. Thank you. from Cyberdelic Space. Be well, my friends.