Program Notes
Guest speaker: Ken Adams
Today we get to hear another of the Palenque Norte Lectures that were held at the 2013 Burning Man Festival. This talk features the artist, experimental film maker, micro-publisher, and media developer, Ken Adams, who for many years was a close friend and neighbor of the late Terence McKenna. You will be delighted with some of the true stories Ken tells as we get to wander with him through the mind of a uniquely creative artist. Also, I tell a couple of my ‘grandfather stories’, and we finish with Ron Shock telling the greatest dope story ever.
“We have shared experiences that the entire world knows about, like 9-11 and all the catastrophes in Japan and Haiti and all over the world, the Gulf. We’re being introduced to a level of experience that’s post tribal, post national, where we’re all sharing the same emotional experiences and beginning to develop the persona of a new human being, a human being that’s never been here before. It’s something that’s completely unique in human history.”
-Ken Adams
The Terence McKenna Experience
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Transcript
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Greetings from Cyberdelic Space.
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This is Lorenzo, and I’m your host here in the Psychedelic Salon.
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Space. This is Lorenzo and I’m your host here in the Psychedelic Salon. And today we’re going to get to listen to another talk from the Plinque Norte lecture series that was held at this year’s
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Burning Man Festival. And this talk features the artist, experimental filmmaker, micro publisher,
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and media developer Ken Adams. As you know, for many years, Ken was a close friend and neighbor of Terrence McKenna,
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whose talks we’ve been listening to here for the past several weeks, actually the past several
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years. And as you may recall, previously we featured a talk by Ken in which he described
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the making of his recent movie, The Terrence McKenna Experience. And I’m pleased to tell you
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that you can now download your own copy of this extremely creative look at the mind of Terrence McKenna experience. And I’m pleased to tell you that you can now download your own copy
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of this extremely creative look at the mind of Terrence McKenna
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as a pay-what-you-can download.
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And I’ll post a link to that download site with the program notes to today’s podcast,
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which, as you know, you can get to via psychedelicsalon.us.
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And now, let’s join Pez on the playa as he introduces Ken Adams.
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All right, so we’re going to get started with Mr. Ken Adams here. Just wanted to introduce Ken first to you guys.
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Ken is a mixed media psychedelic artist.
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He also made an awesome film, from what I hear.
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I’m really looking forward to seeing it tonight.
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About Terrence, which is going to screen, Terrence McKenna,
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which is going to screen at 2 a.m. tonight,
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right after T-Fairy speaks.
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So, yeah, I’m really looking forward to hearing his
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talk tonight. And without further ado, here’s Ken Adams, everybody.
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Thank you.
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Thank you all for coming. I appreciate it. It’s a busy night. I want to start off thanking a bunch of people
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because I think it’s important both for the etiquette of it, but also that we begin to
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develop an appreciation for the ancestors of this neo-psychedelic transformation we’re all part of.
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So you’ll hear me mentioning a lot of names of people that I admire and love very much tonight.
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So you’ll hear me mentioning a lot of names of people that I admire and love very much tonight.
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And I want to start off by thanking Pachamama for bringing me here and giving me a chance to be on the playa.
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I’m dearly grateful.
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I also want to thank the Burning community for giving me a place to do this.
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To be in this scene is an incredible blessing for us all, and in particular for me.
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It’s been incredible, and i thank you and i also want to say something to the palenque norte community that extends all over the internet because there
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there’s a tradition developing here that’s really astonishing and there are people here that are
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here tonight bruce damer pateo’s here there’s all these people in spirit lorenzo’s
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watching and gonna hear tom rydell is uh missing but he set up all this technology for us and uh
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gave lots of love at the right time so there’s a lot of people that go into all this stuff
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and there’s a lot of people in doing like 40 years of psychedelic research and experimentation
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and stuff
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so I’m going to try
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to remember to pay a lot of extra
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respect to the ancestors tonight
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I think it’s really important that we
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learn to extend our narratives
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beyond our personal stories
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and see that we’re all part of something very important
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and that we’re all
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everybody in this room is an extraordinary human being
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or they wouldn’t be here.
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And you’re bringing something very unique to the planet
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that’s urgent right now to be here.
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So I want to thank all of you for doing whatever you do
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and for finding a way to be here with us tonight.
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I also want to in particular, though,
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thank Pez and Annie Oak for putting this together
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they’re incredible people
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and they’ve empowered a lot of people
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and they’ve helped change my life
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so I want to thank them
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and understand how complicated it is
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to get all this together
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and all the work that people surrender of their free time
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it’s quite astonishing that we’re all here. So I want to try and experiment tonight. I saw a lecture a long time ago with a
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guy named Buckminster Fuller who designed all these domes that we’re all enjoying. And he told
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this interesting story about being blind as a kid and that he didn’t see people’s eyes until he was,
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had already been declared retarded and uneducable and nobody knew that he was blind.
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And when he finally got glasses, he saw people’s eyes for the first time.
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And he started just staring at people’s eyes as a way to communicate and understand what they wanted to
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hear so he explained that in this lecture he was giving his technique was to walk on stage with
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a pile of three by five cards with ideas on them and start talking about these different ideas and
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watch people’s eyes and when they began to stray and get nervous or look at the girl next to them or look at their phone and things like this there weren’t phones then to look at
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he would pull another card out and make a transition to whatever was next and i was
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thinking that’s a lot like psychedelics in the sense that one of the characteristics of the
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psychedelic experience can be that you can jump from any one position in reality
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to some other position in reality in one single step.
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Suddenly the picture changes, as some of the ayahuasca arrows say.
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So I think it’s an interesting way to try to approach public speaking
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and also a way to engage the audience in a different way
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and create a type of ceremonial performance that can lead us in directions we wouldn’t ordinarily go.
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So I hope you guys will enjoy this experiment.
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And I think I’ll get started.
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This movie that’s going to run in the background here is just like a theatrical ploy.
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It’s to help you gaze off behind me and let your subconscious hear what I’m saying and
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get as tripped out as you can. Okay, so I told my Buckminster Fuller story, but there’s another
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story that’s about Timothy Leary and a speaker that I deeply admired and loved and also helped save me
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from my own personal apocalypse more than once.
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So I was fortunate to see him perform his first performance when he got out of prison.
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And he came to the University of Texas and they booked this huge ballroom and it was
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like overflowed by three times our capacity and they had to put it into every room in
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the Student Union and it was this amazing revelation that this
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man had survived prison and came out with this incredibly effusive joy and
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strength and power and had accommodated all the demands put on him by prison and
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came out a more beautiful and more hopeful human being. And I was invited to a private lecture he gave.
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And when he came out, he told us he had done 750 mics of LSD
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and that he was going to experiment with these techno-shamanic modalities
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he had developed when he was in solitude in prison
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and being able to trip while he was in solitude for long periods of time.
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And he came out and he gave this amazing performance.
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He did things that I can’t even tell you because they’re absurd.
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And he performed all these tricks and caused visualizations in the whole crowd.
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And he talked about reversing his aging.
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He went through this incredible array of ideas that totally blew my mind.
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I just couldn’t believe the incredible strength of his vision.
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Timothy became a very tragic story in a lot of ways later.
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Perhaps he had more human pain than he could process
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because he had a very challenging life
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and he lost a lot of loved ones
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and he spent a lot of time in prison
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and he had police trying to fuck up his life
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for his whole time here
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so there are a lot of reasons why
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a person can get a broken heart
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a lot of reasons
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but at that point in his life
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he was the most powerful
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and most inspired human I’ve ever seen
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and I want to invoke him and thank him
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for all the opportunities he’s provided in my life.
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I’ve got these two public speaking lessons
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that I remembered this afternoon,
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and I wrote down and thought about this experiment
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in trying to do this lecture in some new way,
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not a lecture, a talk that I hope will engage you guys.
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And if you have any questions or remarks you want to make,
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please let me know.
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Psychedelics are beautiful, mysterious, and frightening.
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Therefore, they’re very sexy.
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They’re also forbidden. That makes them twice as sexy.
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So in my mind, the rhetoric of psychedelia
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has this entire range from maps and the scientific research and spiritual research indigenous
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traditions the trickster tradition i’m personally devoted to a model of divinity that’s based on androgyny and the trickster archetype
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I think that the world is full of surprises
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and full of chaos and full of accidents
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that provide all sorts of amazing opportunities for us
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so besides being
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forbidden, sexy, frightening
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they’re really fun they’re really engaging and incredible. They can keep you
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young. I’m 185 years old.
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For real. And I’m enjoying life.
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So stay with it.
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Yeah.
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So earlier tonight Annie Oak gave an incredible talk in here on sexuality and psychedelics that was just mind-blowing.
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And she told this incredible story of being on an ayahuasca journey and having this very intense erotic experience with a jaguar and I like blew my mind because I had a
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very erotic experience with a jaguar on ayahuasca so I’m going to tell you that story next
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so I do this really intense ayahuasca session and it lasts like 24 hours and I’m like amnesic for at least six of those hours
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and vomited at least 300 times I mean I was praying that I could vomit some more and I got
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buried into the earth and it was just the most soul devastating day of my life it was really
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really hard and when I got finally dropped off at home, I told my friend,
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that’s the last time. I’m not even interested to try to put myself through this again. I mean,
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yeah, I learned a lot and I got healed massively. But I kept thinking, I just couldn’t do that
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again. One of the things that happened just for color was I can remember being in this dark green universe with swirling 3D fractals.
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And there were these hieroglyphic light beings that didn’t have bodies.
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But they had light, sort of like our LED lighting, very similar to it.
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And these six beings were working on me.
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And they were pulling out lumps in my broken heart.
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beings were working on me and they were pulling out lumps in my broken heart and they were smoothing out these areas in my solar plexus that were full of the toxicity of burying my pain in my body
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so they were working hard and they were trying to get me into a position to live a little longer and
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be a little happier other than that it was pretty rough. And it was a lot of just enduring in faith.
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And at the end of it, I was like, that’s enough faith.
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I can’t go through this again.
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And my friend drops me off, and I go inside.
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I start drawing a warm bath, and I take a little one-hitter and take two hits of marijuana.
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And I felt this toxicity just flood from my body,
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and I just rolled back and started laughing and was in this state of incredible bliss.
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I could hardly just keep my body together.
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And I stumbled into the bedroom and fell into the bed,
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and I immediately had this complete 3-D jaguar experience
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that looked sort of like a Japanese print,
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but in 3D and alive.
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And I knew this jaguar in my face was a lady jaguar.
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And I was wondering, oh, what’s next?
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And it started tearing my body apart
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and just ripping my flesh with its claws
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and just eating me alive.
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And I was just in this incredible ecstasy.
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I was like, oh, please, take it.
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Please, take it.
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And it started ripping through my light body,
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and it ripped across my chakras and just was totally dismembering me.
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And I was just like, oh, God, please.
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And then when it got to my heart,
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it transformed into this emerald-eyed snake goddess.
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And she said, good job.
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You did the hard work.
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Now it’s for the soft part.
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Come on inside.
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And I had the most erotically charged, let’s call it indescribable experience of my life.
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At the end of which I fell asleep and slept for 16 hours and woke up with my
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eyes this big and feeling rejuvenated in a way that is priceless so I want to thank Pachamama
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again and for all the visitations and for the jaguar sex healing that I got I think it’s really
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important that we start talking about sexuality and
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psychedelics. I’m actually kind of
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confused why we don’t talk about it a lot
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because it’s
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frankly just fucking amazing.
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And it’s there for us.
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Anyone that has a lover and
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likes psychedelics, it’s there for you to
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jump on in and
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try. I’m sure a bunch of the people
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in this room have done that.
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Why do you need a lover?
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Exactly. Precisely. Thank you, sweetheart.
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You’re right.
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It’s about love and pleasure and joy
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and tinkering around in those forbidden zones.
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It’s like body work. i wonder why people don’t do
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more body work while they’re tripping and i just talked to a beautiful young man that’s doing yoga
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and psychedelics classes and workshops so i think almost everything in the spiritual tradition just
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works better with psychedelics they’re all great but i think psychedelics augment this in a way
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that’s you just can’t ignore.
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Terrence McKenna used to say going to the grave without having psychedelic experience would be like going to the grave without having had sex.
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I completely agree.
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It’s hard for me to understand that people don’t reach out for this forbidden fruit and get all this joy and adventure out of it.
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I’m pretty sure it’s for fear, so part of what I advocate is that we be beautiful and enticing
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and seductive and entice people into doing something that can change their lives
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in a really beautiful way.
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So that’s one of my missions in life.
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I believe it’s all about service and
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when you do a lot of psychedelics especially ayahuasca because you know you end up cleaning
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up the vomit and shit of your friends you know and there’s nothing like that for uh you know
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humility and learning this incredible vulnerability that allows for an unconditional love to surge forward
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whenever you get the opportunity.
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So psychedelics have been essential in opening my heart
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to be this gigantic, empathic, machine love.
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I love everybody.
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It’s hilarious to me because I grew up in a very, I didn’t grow up in a world where I loved everybody. Let me just say that casually. And it’s been amazing to look back over the last 10 years and see how different it is for me to be myself than it was even 10 years ago, much less 30 years ago.
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years ago, much less 30 years ago.
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So I want to thank all these psychedelic
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spirit beings that have helped me
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along the way. More of my
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ancestor spirits.
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The biggest thing that
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I’ve discovered in the last few years
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though is that community
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is really a precious
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thing to have if you’re going to be in the
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psychedelic world and
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bite off a big hunk of
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it and try to get deep into it find your friends encourage them you know honor them and do what
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you need to do to remain in integrity even after you fuck up and when people go through divorces
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and people uh you know move when they shouldn’t, and leave you dealing with something they started.
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All of that’s part of life,
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but it’s very important that we just learn to forgive everybody,
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for Christ’s sakes.
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Can you imagine?
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We’re human beings.
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We have a lot to live through.
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Here’s a story I didn’t expect to tell,
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but I worked for the Bush family for a year and a half once
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in a very bizarre position
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where I kind of got bought like a field hand and thrown into a company they own doing
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educational software development and I was just oh my god I was just mortified when I first heard
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but almost instantly this opportunity presented itself in my mind and my heart that, oh, my God,
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I’m going to be near these crazy fanatic, you know, kleptocracy people that have, like,
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raised generations of people to steal from the government
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and are willing to do just about anything to stay in that position.
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And so I went into this job and with this open heart that I wanted to touch this guy
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that was one of the family.
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And it was an incredible lesson.
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I learned this incredible sense of humility that those people are very sad.
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They’re very lonely.
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They don’t have what we have.
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I can get up and hug anybody in this audience and probably kiss a bunch of you
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and everybody will just think it’s completely normal.
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These people don’t even have friends.
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When your daddy’s the president or the head of the CIA, you don’t even have friends, literally.
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And I found myself in this position of trying to honor this guy that I knew was,
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well, I won’t go into it, but there was a lot of shady
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stuff going on, and by the time I left there, I’d become this guy’s advisor, and learned a lot of
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secrets that I wish I didn’t know, and saw him cry next to me, and asked me for advice, and I got
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invited to do all this stuff that I couldn’t imagine in a million years
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I, one day
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my boss Neil Bush called me up
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and said do you know who Benazar Bhutto is
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and she’s the first woman
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elected to be a prime minister of a Muslim
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country and
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was the head of this really
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powerful political family in
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Pakistan and I made a movie
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once called Imaginary Muslims,
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so I knew a lot about her, and I knew who she was.
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And he says, do you know who this woman is?
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And I said, yeah.
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And he goes, well, come downstairs.
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You’re going to be my wingman today.
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And every time she starts kicking my ass,
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I’m going to go take a phone call.
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You’re going to be with her all day long.
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And I’m like, really?
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So I spent this whole day with this world leader
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cracking jokes
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drinking a lot of coffee
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and he didn’t run in and be an asshole
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for a few minutes and run back out
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I’m thinking is this really how it works?
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you know the world leaders
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kind of get together
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and kind of bitch at each other
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and try to make things happen
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and in a weird way it was very reassuring because I no longer believed kind of get together and kind of bitch at each other and try to make things happen.
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And in a weird way, it was very reassuring because I no longer believed that they were a bunch of evil geniuses.
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They’re like a bunch of evil frat boys.
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They’re not very smart.
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They’re very sad. They’re always in a reactionary position trying to save whatever they’ve stolen
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and not get knifed in the back by somebody
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that they fucked over along the way.
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They’re not worried about us.
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I can assure you those people are not worried about us.
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They think we’re harmless.
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They think that we’re just partying.
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So I lost a lot of fear.
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I lost a lot of sense of potential conspiracies
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and all this stuff that are inevitably valid,
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but I just don’t need to worry about them.
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And I found that by loving these guys, it enriched my life,
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and also I’m sure that I had an impact on things.
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Actually, it’s hard to believe some of the things that happened.
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So almost any situation you can be dropped into,
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you can find the love and the divine spirit in somebody.
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And if you can make them laugh and listen to their stories
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about whatever makes them sad,
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they’re human beings.
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And they’re not in charge.
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Just please forget about it.
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The world is waiting on us, not on them. This is not the past out here. This is
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the future. This is the development platform for how we’re going to survive this insane
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situation we’ve gotten into. So that’ll lead me to a story from when I was seven years old. I get a
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phone call. I’m in seventh grade, not seven years old. I get a phone call. I’m in seventh grade, not seven years old.
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I get a phone call in the middle of the summer in Shreveport, Louisiana.
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It’s too fucking hot to do anything.
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And my buddy David Jones says,
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Hey, my brother just bought the Jimi Hendrix Experience album.
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Nobody had heard it yet, so I ran down the street,
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threw on the headphones, and when I got through,
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I knew what psychedelics were, and I knew
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I wanted it, and so I feel like I’m in that tradition. I really believe that we’re here to
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help each other have the courage and the opportunity to explore these realms and to go
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into this spiritual growth and artistic growth psychological growth emotional healing that’s
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available for every person on this planet if we would just grow up and quit having wars and quit
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stealing from each other we need to just simply learn to share care for each other and be present
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with that we’re going to have to do it we don don’t have many choices. We’re running out of that clock.
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So that was my first psychedelic experience, was listening to Jimi Hendrix. And it also awoken in me this realization that media could be this incredible, powerful, transforming experience.
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And we take it a lot for granted, but we’ve grown up in a really amazing era.
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but we’ve grown up in a really amazing era.
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In my lifetime, my family was the first family in my neighborhood to own a TV.
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How many of you people can even imagine when you’re on your cell phones and on the Internet and doing all the beautiful, wonderful things that digital technology will let us do
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and some of the awful things it lets us do?
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That’s a long way to come in one lifetime.
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And when I was talking to my mom as she’s passing and beginning to go through her past,
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she talked about living in a time without electricity.
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There weren’t any lights.
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There wasn’t any plumbing that was electrically assisted like pumps, electric pumps and stuff.
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It was a much different world not very long ago.
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It’s changing very, very fast.
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So now I’m going to jump to a 12-year-old, Ken Adams,
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and John Fitzgerald Kennedy is on the TV.
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The family’s huddled around, and he’s talking about the Cuban Missile Crisis
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and basically tells everybody to
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prepare for the possibility of an atomic war. And afterwards, my father kindly explained to me that
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if there’s a, and it really is an atomic war, everything you know and love and care about will
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be obliterated and it’s probably not a world you’d want to live in. I was, actually I was nine years old.
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It’s 1962, October 22nd.
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And during that evening I became an adult.
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I realized that the adults in my own civilization
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were insane enough to create
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weapons that could destroy the whole fabric
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of civilization and that they were stockpiling
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weapons to create havoc that
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couldn’t be undone so i think at that evening a whole rescue cohort was awakened and somewhat i
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think the 60s were a direct response to this that we saw that our parents were crazy all they can
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think about is money and power and then later they take care of love and loyalty to their family and a lot of other good things, baseball and apple pie.
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But in the meantime, they’re letting these insane people set the world up for catastrophe.
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And so I, in a sense, traded my childhood for this realization that it was going to take solutions that weren’t coming from
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the adults and along the way developing like so many of the others of my generation I inevitably
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ran into psychedelics and I was astonished the very first time I did them that this was something
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of a hidden secret that we had these amazing tools available to us and very few people were using
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them and that it might be a very good idea that we promote this idea and sure enough there was a
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lot of that happened in the 60s a lot of people altered their consciousness and a lot of people
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got in trouble a lot of people died a lot of people went to jail a lot of people had broken
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families there’s a lot of damage.
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But there was an awakening in this culture that was as big as any kind of spiritual revival the world’s ever seen.
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And possibly larger and deeper than anything that’s ever been seen in such a short amount of time.
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So I’ve been looking at this thing from that point of view my entire life.
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at this thing from that point of view my entire life.
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Luckily, along the way, I went camping with a really beautiful girl that had mushrooms and taught me that there was a lot more
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to do with psychedelics than worry about how to save the world.
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And it opened up this other world to me of sexuality and tenderness
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and eventually the ability to go to other worlds,
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to go to other realms with my lover,
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and to see that we don’t only exist in this human form.
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We all exist in other realms,
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and other entities are there that can help us and serve us
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or entertain us and play with us,
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give us joy, give us healing and pleasure
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where we currently have a lot of frustration and anxiety.
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Alex Gray. Have any of you ever heard of Alex Gray? So Alex wrote a really important book called,
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I don’t know what it’s called, but it’s on the art as as a spiritual path i forget what he calls it
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but he talks about how art has become the secret mystery tradition of the western civilization
00:28:32 ►
that we’ve been able to figure out this way to express ourselves with incredible
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emotional impact and reveal through the hologram of a single individual artist that’s put his life devoted his life to
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creativity can manifest a model of the universe that simply otherwise wouldn’t exist so i want
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to pay homage to alex i uh i think he’s done an amazing thing in the world people are starting
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their first trips with all these images that alex made and that they’ve studied when they went to the bookstore
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and looked at his books and wondered what tripping’s like.
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And people that have been tripping for years
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see something in his painting and start crying.
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I mean, he’s made an amazing body of art,
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and he’s encouraged thousands of artists
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to take it very seriously and make beautiful work.
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And now there’s this whole other generation of psychedelic painters
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that are just blowing our minds and creating this incredible opportunity
00:29:31 ►
to share what the psychedelic experience is and what it’s about.
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It’s my hope to do that as an artist in these other realms,
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these other mediums that I work in.
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So I want to pay homage to that ancestor.
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Another ancestor is Francis Bacon, and I just read a quote from Francis Bacon. He’s kind of
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considered the guy that established the groundwork for developing the scientific method and deductive
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reasoning and resisting the church at a time when they were trying to stomp out
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enlightened and progressive thinking and i ran into this really interesting quote just a couple
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of weeks ago where he said uh that due to the repression that we’re under from the authorities
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he suggested that people make enigmatic histories of what’s going on in their lives, and then to use all the tricks of theater to disguise and hide
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the knowledge they were trying to convey.
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And the last thing he said was,
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those that know will know, the others won’t care.
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And I think that there’s a lot of truth in that.
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There’s a lot of safety in being an artist.
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They think you’re an idiot or a fool
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or just at least an entertaining trickster on the court staff.
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And yeah, you’re all that.
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But you also have the chance to create worlds
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that enrich in this shared experience that we have
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and give us new solutions for all these problems
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and catastrophes that we worry about.
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We’re in that state of mind.
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But also lead us to
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all these incredible adventures of beauty and mystery over and over again i think of beauty
00:31:10 ►
and mystery or what we should be seeking or what i’m interested in seeking and what i’m interested
00:31:16 ►
in conveying and presenting in my art world oh this is a good one in high school in shreveport louisiana during the height of the insanity and
00:31:27 ►
the beginning of the drug war for some reason our principal had the great idea to hire a freelance
00:31:33 ►
fundamentalist preacher to come and talk to us about drugs and it was a mandatory
00:31:37 ►
meeting in the school theater and this guy gets up on stage, and he starts talking about
00:31:46 ►
psychedelic sex parties, and the danger of smoking marijuana, and you’re going to end up in a
00:31:54 ►
psychedelic sex party, and I could see all these like horny teenagers were just like, oh yeah,
00:32:02 ►
where do I get some of that psychedelic sex party stuff?
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And I thought, wow, I want to grow up and be that guy.
00:32:10 ►
He’s promoting psychedelic sex parties for a living.
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What a great job.
00:32:15 ►
So that leads me to this final maybe conclusion,
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is that we should consider that the unintended consequences of our world
00:32:23 ►
are the most interesting and the most beautiful and mysterious because the world is not done we don’t have any obligation to succeed
00:32:32 ►
here as a species we could disappear be gone and life is going to be moving along the plasma will
00:32:38 ►
keep churning out new civilizations and different things will happen all over the universe so we have a limited time
00:32:46 ►
here to to come to grips with it all and embrace this opportunity and now that i’ve said mystery
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and beauty about 17 times i want to remind everybody oh a beautiful woman sent me this
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book today from austin roomie the Book of Love. Thank you, Jenna.
00:33:11 ►
So I opened it up at random to grab a verse, and this is what I got.
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I open and I fill with love, and what is not love evaporates.
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And if there’s anything psychedelics can do, given the intention, given the community,
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given the healthy living, living with integrity,
00:33:32 ►
dealing with your heart more than your head, you live from your heart instead of your ideas.
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It’ll eventually evaporate everything that’s not love. And beyond beauty and mystery, there’s really only one word that we have that’s really big enough to contain all of this and that’s love it’s the
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simplest thing and everybody said it from the beginning of time but if we learn to love one
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another and take responsibility from one another we’re going to have incredible experiences we can
00:33:57 ►
go to the temple and comfort some incredible stranger that’s letting loose some intense emotional turmoil and turning around looking
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for anybody and making eye contact with you and you can embrace them and love them and kiss their
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heads and squeeze their bodies and eventually put them on their way and never see them again
00:34:19 ►
that i think is the single most exquisite invention of the Burning Man community.
00:34:26 ►
We have invented a way to grieve that no other civilization has ever had.
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We found ourselves in this bankrupt culture that has destroyed all these rituals
00:34:37 ►
that we could learn to both grieve and celebrate.
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We’ve reinvented our celebrations, but we also gave ourselves this incredible healing capacity
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to share this temple experience sit in near silence with 60 000 people that are devoting
00:34:52 ►
themselves to some reverence for the passing of life it’s very very important that we live with
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our deaths we’re all going to be dead very soon. Everybody in this room will be dead very quickly.
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It just flashes by.
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You lose people.
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New people are born.
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So live fully, my sweet friends, my beloveds.
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Live as fully as you can.
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Drink as deep as you can.
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Love extra.
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Love, forgive.
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Love some more.
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Don’t worry about who’s fucking up.
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We’re all fucking up.
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We’re all broken children that need love.
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We need it in extra doses.
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So go out into the playa
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and love some strangers.
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I hope you come see my movie,
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and I thank you all for being here,
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and I love you all.
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Blessings.
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Does anybody have any questions? I’ll make some up if you don’t. love you all. Blessings. Thank you.
00:35:45 ►
Does anybody have any questions?
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I’ll make some up if you don’t.
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Like, what the hell are you
00:35:51 ►
doing here?
00:35:54 ►
So, seriously, does anybody
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have any comments?
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I actually
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consider myself a techno-animist.
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I regard everything
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as being animated with life spirit
00:36:06 ►
and at least implicit consciousness.
00:36:09 ►
The first time I got a computer, I wrote a grant.
00:36:12 ►
I was a sculpture, found object sculpture guy.
00:36:17 ►
I never made a video in my life.
00:36:18 ►
I wrote a grant to the National Endowment of the Arts
00:36:21 ►
to try to sneak some money out and buy a computer
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and somehow got it. So I bought the first computer that you could make video and audio with an
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Amiga computer. And there’s another Amiga guy over here. And man, was that a revelation. You know,
00:36:38 ►
there was really seriously this other world opened up. But the very first chance I got,
00:36:42 ►
I was on a sixth floor walk up in Manhattanhattan and i took this heroic dose of mushrooms because i wanted to go in my computer like in tron
00:36:50 ►
and you know find out what’s in there from the psychedelic point of view and to my surprise they
00:36:56 ►
were there waiting they were like yeah right we’re here to help we’re like crystals we’re from the
00:37:02 ►
earth we’re like those crystals you wear on your necklaces.
00:37:05 ►
We really have something to add to this
00:37:08 ►
and you’re in a crisis
00:37:09 ►
so we’re going to give you a way to get everybody
00:37:12 ►
on the same page
00:37:13 ►
in a very short amount of time.
00:37:15 ►
We call it the internet. We call it
00:37:18 ►
fucking Facebook for a while.
00:37:20 ►
But for another
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period will emerge where this
00:37:23 ►
new in humanity is growing that’s never been possible before,
00:37:28 ►
where we have shared experiences that the entire world knows about,
00:37:33 ►
like 9-11 and all the catastrophes in Japan and Haiti and all over the world, the Gulf.
00:37:38 ►
We’re being introduced to a level of experience that’s post-tribal, post-national, where we’re all
00:37:47 ►
sharing the same emotional experiences and beginning to develop the persona of a new
00:37:51 ►
human being, a human being that’s never been here before. It’s something that’s completely
00:37:57 ►
unique in human history. So I think of my computer as an ally, the way people think about their animal totems or their plant spirit allies.
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I go to my computer, and I never tell it what to do.
00:38:12 ►
I always ask it, what do you want to show me?
00:38:14 ►
What do you want to show me I’ve never done before?
00:38:17 ►
Show me something I can’t expect, something I can’t anticipate.
00:38:20 ►
And it never fails me.
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It always surprises me when i go back and look at my
00:38:25 ►
movies i can’t remember how i made all these different parts of these movies i would have
00:38:31 ►
no idea how to go through the re-engineering of trying to contrive these things because
00:38:36 ►
i worked from a state of basically surrender to my computer i think i’m making love to my computer. I think I’m making love to my computer when I play with it.
00:38:46 ►
And it’s certainly making a sort of love to me. So I know that the NSA is snooping into our stuff.
00:38:54 ►
I’m surprised anyone’s surprised at that. I can’t imagine that they wouldn’t. They’re
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control freaks. So I try to watch the cultural mood and stay within limits.
00:39:06 ►
I see people talking about ayahuasca on TV
00:39:09 ►
and on different magazines and bookstores.
00:39:12 ►
They’re full of this stuff.
00:39:13 ►
So I don’t think they’re really worried about what I think.
00:39:17 ►
I don’t think they’re too interested in finding out that I like to do psychedelics.
00:39:21 ►
That’s like saying there’s a black dude in Brooklyn that sells pot.
00:39:25 ►
Well, that’s not very useful information.
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There are a lot of people selling pot in Brooklyn.
00:39:31 ►
There are a lot of people doing psychedelics.
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There are a lot of people that have devoted their lives to get us here
00:39:36 ►
and give us this opportunity to share in this new culture that we’re building.
00:39:42 ►
So, yeah, I think the convergence of computers and psychedelics
00:39:45 ►
is an essential part of us making this transition
00:39:49 ►
that we are making.
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And that without it, we’d be calling up on the telephone
00:39:56 ►
and leaving a message.
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Can you imagine that that’s the best we could do for a long time?
00:40:02 ►
Now I can, this video will go out on Palenque Norte
00:40:05 ►
and thousands, maybe millions of people
00:40:08 ►
will be able to watch it.
00:40:09 ►
It’s going to just keep running.
00:40:11 ►
It doesn’t stop.
00:40:13 ►
You know, it’s always there.
00:40:14 ►
The little elves are working even when we sleep.
00:40:17 ►
So yeah, I really have welcomed the computer revolution.
00:40:21 ►
I think it’s giving us an opportunity
00:40:22 ►
to also make a visual language of which I’m
00:40:26 ►
constantly experimenting with that will be universal so that we’re no longer tied to
00:40:31 ►
linguistic groups that channel our thinking into different categories you can show people and
00:40:38 ►
illustrate people to people these states of consciousness these implications of what it’s like to know that you have a soul,
00:40:46 ►
that you have a spirit, that you have a heart.
00:40:49 ►
All these implications are being mapped out incredibly beautifully with amazing nuance on the Internet
00:40:56 ►
where we’re all spending too much time.
00:40:59 ►
I have a necklace on here that’s about unplugging.
00:41:02 ►
I love the Internet. I love my computer.
00:41:05 ►
But I love unplugging. I love the internet. I love my computer, but I love unplugging. I love laying naked on the rocks in a mountain looking over a landscape that’s too
00:41:12 ►
beautiful to even comprehend. So I’m not like, even though I have a bunch of repetitive stress
00:41:18 ►
issues from being on my computer too much, it’s the price I see that I’ve paid to be in love so deeply and to be
00:41:25 ►
given such an incredible gift of
00:41:27 ►
really power to be able to use
00:41:30 ►
computers to make psychedelic
00:41:31 ►
art. You’re in a very select
00:41:34 ►
group of people in human history.
00:41:36 ►
It’s a very thin slice.
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An incredible privilege.
00:41:40 ►
So yeah, I love computers.
00:41:41 ►
I love working with them and I also
00:41:43 ►
would love to not ever have to hold a mouse again
00:41:46 ►
and sit at a desk like this, you know,
00:41:49 ►
trying to get it to be in the right places.
00:41:51 ►
It’s a very kludgy beginning, but we’ll be out of it very soon.
00:41:55 ►
It’ll go moving very quickly to much more elegant solutions.
00:42:01 ►
Any more?
00:42:07 ►
Synthetics?
00:42:09 ►
I think there are differences, sure.
00:42:12 ►
You know, there’s obviously differences,
00:42:13 ►
but I’ve used a wide array of psychedelics,
00:42:16 ►
and I respect them all,
00:42:17 ►
and again, I think LSD is a crystal,
00:42:20 ►
and so it’s a mineral sort of persona,
00:42:22 ►
and it’s different than a plant persona.
00:42:25 ►
To me, all the plant psychedelics have been feminine.
00:42:29 ►
I should tell a quick DMT story here, guys.
00:42:31 ►
If you get a chance, if you haven’t already,
00:42:36 ►
DMT, especially organically derived DMT
00:42:40 ►
with no petrochemicals that are extracted with orange juice from the proper plants and
00:42:47 ►
then precipitated onto passion flowers. Those plant spirits are very sexy and they’re very
00:42:55 ►
powerful and they’re very friendly and they’re really looking forward to meeting as many human
00:43:02 ►
spirit beings as they can. So when I do DMD these days,
00:43:07 ►
I pretty consistently run into these very beautiful manifestations of,
00:43:13 ►
let’s call them fairy spirits, not in the Disney sense,
00:43:17 ►
but in the sense of nature spirits from our own Celtic tradition
00:43:22 ►
that are full of magic and full of love and full
00:43:26 ►
of sexiness again
00:43:27 ►
so I think
00:43:30 ►
that’s where we’re going next I think we’re
00:43:32 ►
going to quit telling each other these
00:43:34 ►
wild and crazy not quit but
00:43:36 ►
we’re going to put in to the
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archive a lot
00:43:40 ►
new a lot of new stories about
00:43:42 ►
engaging other beings
00:43:44 ►
in these other realms that if you’re willing to
00:43:46 ►
open up your neurological
00:43:48 ►
system and invite them in
00:43:49 ►
the way they’ve invited you into
00:43:51 ►
themselves, new worlds
00:43:54 ►
are created that have never been
00:43:56 ►
done before that
00:43:58 ►
are not human.
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And you can go there and be in these
00:44:02 ►
incredible, extraordinary places
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that no one’s been able to describe yet,
00:44:06 ►
no one’s been able to make movies about yet,
00:44:09 ►
but that are incredibly beautiful and mysterious.
00:44:13 ►
And they are packed with love.
00:44:16 ►
Do you want to ask?
00:44:19 ►
That’s right.
00:44:20 ►
The question or the comment is, instead of the second coming of Christ,
00:44:23 ►
it’s the second coming of Pan, yes, that’s exactly right. The question or the comment is, instead of the second coming of Christ, it’s the second coming of Pan. Yes, that’s exactly right.
00:44:27 ►
We’re going to be wilder. We’re going to be closer to nature.
00:44:31 ►
We’re going to fuck a lot more and a lot better than people used to in our culture.
00:44:35 ►
We already do. So yeah, that’s part of the progress here.
00:44:40 ►
What was your comment?
00:44:43 ►
Do I believe it is?
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Absolutely.
00:44:46 ►
It’s a key.
00:44:47 ►
I’m not into absolutes.
00:44:48 ►
I tried.
00:44:49 ►
William Burroughs was another honored ancestor,
00:44:52 ►
and he talked a lot about not using the article the because it’s so singular.
00:44:57 ►
I think there are a lot of paths that are going to be really crucial and keys to the future.
00:45:01 ►
But certainly in my life, psychedelics have been key to everything
00:45:07 ►
that i hold dear from raising my children to touching my private parts to writing novels
00:45:13 ►
and making movies it’s it’s been essential to my life i can’t even begin to imagine suggesting
00:45:20 ►
where do we go next unless i bring that into the question. We need to consider the value of psychedelics.
00:45:27 ►
We just need to get on with it.
00:45:29 ►
I’m 60 years old, not 134,
00:45:33 ►
and I’ve raised beautiful children, Zephan and Zarina.
00:45:36 ►
I love you, you blessed beings.
00:45:39 ►
I’ve paid my taxes.
00:45:41 ►
I had jobs.
00:45:43 ►
I drive a car if I have to. I’m an American citizen and I’m tired of these
00:45:48 ►
creeps standing on my neck. And I think it’s important for people to speak up and have the
00:45:53 ►
courage to say their own truth. Bring it out. Offer it up. Serve your time. Not just your people,
00:46:02 ►
your time. The time you have is that special opportunity.
00:46:07 ►
We’re all in a very unique place in our own holograms. It’s not where it was in 1960. It’s
00:46:13 ►
not where it’s going to be in 2050. It’s right now, right here on the playa, right where we are
00:46:20 ►
in all of our lives and all of our little melodramas and that hologram of weird meanings we
00:46:25 ►
call our lives that nobody else really knows about we all think everyone knows this and we
00:46:31 ►
knows our story not too much basically about 99 of it you’re doing on your own kind of generating
00:46:39 ►
your own imagination and making it as real as you need to to keep functional but other than that yeah i mean
00:46:47 ►
psychedelics they’re essential for me and for all the people that are dearest to me and that have
00:46:53 ►
loved me the most and shown me the most spiritually and constantly reminding me that i have a soul and
00:46:59 ►
to not take myself too seriously because it’ll be over soon. You’re going to all be dead soon.
00:47:06 ►
All the people you love will be dead soon.
00:47:08 ►
It’s not the end of the story.
00:47:10 ►
Nothing ever ends.
00:47:12 ►
Nothing ever, ever
00:47:14 ►
ends. Every thought
00:47:16 ►
you have and every kindness you bring
00:47:18 ►
to the world changes the world.
00:47:21 ►
Every little
00:47:22 ►
piece of it.
00:47:24 ►
Thank you very much. go have a great night
00:47:26 ►
you’re listening to the psychedelic salon where people are changing their lives one thought at a
00:47:34 ►
time although i didn’t plan it this way i find it quite interesting that uh ken just now ended his
00:47:41 ►
talk saying in his own way well essentially the same thing with which I ended last week’s podcast.
00:47:48 ►
Remember the quote I used?
00:47:50 ►
Almost everything you do will seem insignificant, but it is important that you do it.
00:47:56 ►
It’s a small thing, but I’ve found that it is sometimes worthwhile to pay attention to these little coincidences.
00:48:02 ►
Unfortunately for you, however, what all this brought back to my mind
00:48:07 ►
is an unlikely chain of hyperlinks
00:48:09 ►
in which I recalled another instance
00:48:12 ►
of two people saying, well, essentially the same thing,
00:48:15 ►
but in their own unique ways.
00:48:17 ►
You see, I’ve learned that some people
00:48:18 ►
are more receptive of the opinions
00:48:20 ►
of those who have impeccable scholarly credentials,
00:48:24 ►
and others of us react better to a vibe that is, well, closer to the street.
00:48:29 ►
Thus the little story I’m going to tell you right now.
00:48:32 ►
As Ken just mentioned, there are a lot of people selling pot and doing psychedelics.
00:48:38 ►
It’s just that in our current culture, they all have to keep under the radar of the power elite.
00:48:44 ►
One of the first encounters that
00:48:46 ►
I ever had with someone who very few people would suspect of using LSD on a regular basis
00:48:51 ►
was when I met Dr. A.C. German, who was Professor Emeritus in the Department of Criminal Justice at
00:48:58 ►
Cal State in Long Beach. In fact, he is actually responsible for founding the police science program at that university, and it remains one of the premier educational programs today for advanced degrees in police work.
00:49:12 ►
Well, it was at the All Chemical Arts Conference in Hawaii that I first met Dr. Juman and his lovely wife.
00:49:20 ►
They were both there, and I think they were probably in their late 70s at the time, and compared to the rest of the attendees at the conference, they were by far the most sedate ones there.
00:49:29 ►
You know, just a retired university professor and his wife.
00:49:33 ►
But Dr. Germain was there on a mission, and his mission was to let us younger generations know how important he believed the proper use of LSD was.
00:49:43 ►
how important he believed the proper use of LSD was.
00:49:47 ►
When we parted, he gave me a short essay that he wrote about this subject,
00:49:50 ►
and he asked me to post it on my website.
00:49:54 ►
And it’s been on my Matrix Master site for over a decade now,
00:49:58 ►
and I’ll post a link to it along with the program notes for this podcast so you can read the entire essay yourself.
00:50:00 ►
I think it would be really worth your time to do so.
00:50:03 ►
But in just a moment, I’m going to read
00:50:05 ►
a single paragraph from this essay and then contrast it with a very brief soundbite from a
00:50:11 ►
TP Boys episode. For those of you who aren’t familiar with the Trailer Park Boys, well, all
00:50:17 ►
you need to know for the soundbite to make sense is that the person doing most of the talking is a
00:50:23 ►
character named Ricky. There really is no way to briefly explain Ricky,
00:50:27 ►
other than if you were the father of a daughter who wanted to date him,
00:50:31 ►
well, you would probably move your entire family out of the country just to keep her away from him.
00:50:37 ►
Essentially, he is the most anti-authoritarian character I’ve come across.
00:50:43 ►
And by the way, I think he’s great.
00:50:46 ►
He’s just one of those people you’d love to be somewhat like, but you couldn’t stand to be around him.
00:50:51 ►
I realize that this is probably getting confusing by now, but our fellow slaughters who are also
00:50:56 ►
TP Boys fans understand perfectly, I suspect. So, what’s your point, Lorenzo, you ask?
00:51:03 ►
So, what’s your point, Lorenzo, you ask?
00:51:13 ►
Well, my roundabout point is that Dr. German and Ricky represent two opposite polarities of the so-called civilized human male,
00:51:20 ►
and yet they equally understand something very basic about our society that most people choose to ignore.
00:51:31 ►
Now, first here is Dr. Jumans thought, and I quote, If the ears of all the people in the nation who had ingested illicit substances in the past six months were to turn bright green for one whole week,
00:51:35 ►
the nation would be amazed, confused, astounded,
00:51:39 ►
and quickly taught something very important,
00:51:41 ►
as they identified friends, relatives, neighbors, doctors, lawyers, End quote. makers, administrators, supervisors, and workers from a variety of private and government institutions
00:52:06 ►
everywhere.
00:52:08 ►
End quote.
00:52:09 ►
And that’s the quote from a very highly respected university professor.
00:52:14 ►
And now, here is a similar thought from Ricky, as he puts one of his dupes to work on a particularly
00:52:20 ►
nasty project.
00:52:22 ►
There’s a little piece of hash.
00:52:24 ►
Go to the stove, do some hot knives, get stoned,
00:52:25 ►
and get the fuck to work, okay?
00:52:26 ►
I can’t get stoned, Ricky.
00:52:28 ►
What do you mean? It’s shitty work.
00:52:30 ►
Everybody does that, alright?
00:52:31 ►
Carpenters, electricians, dishwashers, floor cleaners,
00:52:33 ►
lawyers, doctors, fucking politicians,
00:52:35 ►
CBC employees, principals,
00:52:36 ►
people that paint the lawns on the fucking roads.
00:52:38 ►
Get stoned, it’ll be fun, get to work.
00:52:41 ►
After that, I probably should follow Ricky’s advice,
00:52:44 ►
get stoned, and go to work on my next podcast.
00:52:46 ►
But first, I’ve got one more story to tell you.
00:52:49 ►
It concerns one of my favorite podcasts, Lefty’s Lounge,
00:52:53 ►
which you can find over on the Cannabis Podcast Network at dopefiend.co.uk.
00:52:59 ►
Well, Lefty’s Lounge is one of my favorite podcasts, and I’ve listened to every one of them.
00:53:05 ►
And in case you’ve never tuned in to Lefty, well, what his program consists of is primarily music,
00:53:10 ►
and most of it’s old and new rock.
00:53:13 ►
But Lefty also inserts short comedy bits as well as his own fascinating chatter.
00:53:18 ►
And by the way, Lefty is one of those great old-school DJs
00:53:22 ►
who actually takes the time to give you the name of the artists and the songs after each set he plays.
00:53:28 ►
Plus, you can also see the listing in his program notes.
00:53:31 ►
And since much of the music that he plays is new stuff that I’m not familiar with, well, this is a big help for me when I want to go back and buy one of the songs I’ve heard.
00:53:40 ►
Now, Lefty doesn’t play many of what are called the oldies.
00:53:44 ►
His musical taste is more in line with the 20 and 30 year old crowd
00:53:49 ►
But once in a while he’ll play an old rock standard that I can sing along to
00:53:53 ►
However, only once that I know of has he dipped way back
00:53:57 ►
But with a modern version of a really old song
00:54:00 ►
Now, you’re going to have to bear with me here
00:54:04 ►
While I tell one of my grandfather’s
00:54:05 ►
stories that right now my grandkids are too young to hear, and hopefully someone will point them to
00:54:11 ►
the salon when they’re in their 30s and they can hear some of these stories that I’m inserting
00:54:16 ►
here and there for them. And in the event you aren’t up for one of my silly stories, well,
00:54:21 ►
you can just skip ahead to the last 10 minutes of this podcast
00:54:25 ►
where a real treat awakes you. Are you comfortable? It’s a long one. Well, when I was in college,
00:54:32 ►
every other Tuesday night, all of the engineering students had to take a two-hour physics exam.
00:54:38 ►
We called it Black Tuesday. And after the test ended one night and my roommate and I attempted
00:54:43 ►
to leave the building by the front door,
00:54:45 ►
we couldn’t push it open due to the blizzard conditions and high wind keeping it closed.
00:54:51 ►
So my roommate and I decided to leave by the back door.
00:54:54 ►
But next to the door was a little bulletin board and on it was a hand-drawn flyer
00:54:59 ►
with a very poor representation of a palm tree and the title, Learn to Sail Free.
00:55:07 ►
Well, as we fought our way back to the dorm that night through the snowstorm,
00:55:11 ►
all we could talk about was palm trees and sailboats.
00:55:15 ►
Now, jump forward in time several years, and I’m now a senior in college and the captain of the sailing team.
00:55:22 ►
senior in college, and the captain of the sailing team.
00:55:27 ►
Well, each Thanksgiving, the Chicago Yacht Club hosted a regatta that week for the Midwest Collegiate Sailing Association, the MCSA.
00:55:32 ►
At the time, my parents lived on the outskirts of Chicago,
00:55:36 ►
and so the sailing team would spend the Thanksgiving holidays
00:55:39 ►
camped out at my parents’ house,
00:55:41 ►
and our girlfriends stayed a block away at my aunt’s house.
00:55:44 ►
Then we’d go into the city to race during the day, and at night we’d gather around the piano
00:55:49 ►
in my parents’ house where my mother would play, and we’d all sing until late at night.
00:55:55 ►
And those times around the piano with my mother playing, and all of us quite drunk I should add,
00:56:00 ►
singing our hearts out, are by far the most wonderful memories of all my college days.
00:56:06 ►
So what’s the point, you ask? Well, first of all, that little detour out the back door of the
00:56:13 ►
engineering building one Black Tuesday quite literally changed my life. For many years after
00:56:19 ►
that night, sailing became the dominant focus and influence in my life. So pay attention to those little things.
00:56:26 ►
The little coincidences that you pay attention to can sometimes be life-changing.
00:56:31 ►
But the other point is that sometimes, without even knowing it,
00:56:35 ►
you can say or do something that becomes quite meaningful in an emotional way
00:56:40 ►
for others who you may not even know.
00:56:43 ►
And that’s what Lefty did for me in his podcast
00:56:45 ►
number 178, because he played a song in that show that I hadn’t heard in many years. In fact,
00:56:52 ►
the very last time I’d heard it before that podcast was the last night of our last party
00:56:57 ►
with my parents and the Notre Dame sailing team, and my mother was playing it on the piano.
00:57:03 ►
I won’t tell you what the song was,
00:57:06 ►
but if you listen to that podcast,
00:57:07 ►
I’m sure that you’ll figure it out.
00:57:12 ►
So Lefty, thanks for restoring a lost memory for me.
00:57:15 ►
Now, one more thing about Lefty’s Lounge.
00:57:18 ►
He also plays a lot of comedy,
00:57:20 ►
but in only very short bits usually.
00:57:23 ►
So I’m always going out to YouTube to listen to more from the great comedians that
00:57:26 ►
he features on his program. His most recent program, number 180, is a double album, so to speak,
00:57:33 ►
in that he did a two-hour show and included both some new and some old comedy, like the hilarious
00:57:40 ►
Joe Rogan bit about the San Francisco Tiger episode. And at the very end of this program,
00:57:46 ►
Lefty played a bit in its entirety that he’s only played parts of before, but this is the first time
00:57:52 ►
I remember hearing the entire bit all at one time. I can’t even tell you how many times I’ve heard
00:57:57 ►
bits and pieces of this story before, but every time I hear it, I laugh out loud. And that’s not
00:58:03 ►
often the case when you’ve heard a story before.
00:58:06 ►
In fact, this story is so good that I’m afraid some of our fellow slaunters won’t take the time to listen to it on Lefty’s podcast.
00:58:13 ►
If I could have found it on YouTube or some other place, I would have linked to it.
00:58:17 ►
But the only place I’ve been able to find it so far is from Lefty.
00:58:20 ►
And so I’m going to take advantage of Lefty’s good nature and play it for you here,
00:58:25 ►
just to be sure that you hear it. But it sure would be cool of you to also jack into Lefty’s
00:58:30 ►
Lounge over at dopefiend.co.uk, where you know I’ll also be hanging out each week.
00:58:36 ►
So for now, this is Lorenzo signing off from Cyberdelic Space. Be well, my friends.
00:58:42 ►
space. Be well, my friends.
00:58:46 ►
And now, here is the late Ron Schock telling the
00:58:48 ►
best goddamn dope story
00:58:49 ►
you’ve ever heard.
00:58:51 ►
I’m going to tell you the world’s greatest dope story.
00:58:53 ►
It happened in Australia.
00:58:55 ►
The dope is marijuana. Now, this story
00:58:57 ►
is not a pro-marijuana story.
00:59:00 ►
I’m not saying that in any way, okay?
00:59:02 ►
Matter of fact, if you are anti-marijuana,
00:59:04 ►
this story will probably make you more anti-marijuana.
00:59:07 ►
You’ll go, no, goddamn, that really is terrible shit.
00:59:09 ►
Nobody should ever do it, okay?
00:59:11 ►
If you are pro-marijuana,
00:59:13 ►
this story will probably make you even more pro-marijuana.
00:59:17 ►
But either way, at the end of the story,
00:59:21 ►
you’re going to go, that’s the best goddamn story I’ve ever heard.
00:59:27 ►
Okay.
00:59:28 ►
This happens in 1961.
00:59:31 ►
00:59:34 ►
00:59:34 ►
I lived in Australia at this time,
00:59:36 ►
and I’m running British printing over there,
00:59:38 ►
and I’m making so much money that I get into rock music promotion.
00:59:42 ►
And between 69 and 71
00:59:45 ►
I bring Blood, Sweat and Tears to Australia.
00:59:48 ►
I brought Black Sabbath back when
00:59:49 ►
Ozzy Osbourne was their lead singer.
00:59:52 ►
I brought The Kinks right up
00:59:53 ►
they did Low Lung.
00:59:56 ►
You know, I know it’s
00:59:57 ►
going to come as a surprise, but a lot of the
00:59:59 ►
rock and roll people of the late 60s and
01:00:01 ►
early 70s smoked
01:00:03 ►
marijuana.
01:00:15 ►
I know. I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, the president wanted to bother you, I know, it’s true.
01:00:21 ►
And in Australia in 1971, marijuana was illegal. However, anything a half a pound and under
01:00:26 ►
was considered to be for personal consumption
01:00:30 ►
and therefore exempt from the law.
01:00:34 ►
Heaven.
01:00:37 ►
I’m in heaven.
01:00:40 ►
Well, we get some good dope from all over the world, man.
01:00:46 ►
Coming through that Sydney heart.
01:00:48 ►
We get it from Africa and Asia and Philippines and Southeast Asia.
01:00:53 ►
My best friend gets married.
01:00:56 ►
My best friend’s an American and he marries a ballerina
01:00:59 ►
from the Sydney Royal Ballet Company.
01:01:02 ►
And her mom and dad are so rich
01:01:05 ►
that they don’t know how much money they’ve got.
01:01:07 ►
Their money goes back centuries, okay?
01:01:10 ►
And so the wedding of their daughter,
01:01:12 ►
the ballerina of the Sydney Royal Ballet Company,
01:01:16 ►
is quite a big deal, okay?
01:01:19 ►
I mean, you know, it would be like
01:01:20 ►
Madonna getting married over here, okay?
01:01:22 ►
I mean, you know,
01:01:23 ►
it gets that kind of press, you understand what I’m, okay? I mean, you know, it gets that kind of press.
01:01:25 ►
You understand what I’m saying?
01:01:26 ►
And I mean, that wedding, it is the social event of the season.
01:01:31 ►
And I’m the best man.
01:01:33 ►
And my wife is the maid of honor.
01:01:36 ►
And I’m straight.
01:01:38 ►
It’s my best friend’s wedding.
01:01:39 ►
I wouldn’t fuck it up, okay?
01:01:41 ►
However, the story takes place at the reception.
01:01:46 ►
And the wedding is over.
01:01:50 ►
And it’s party time.
01:01:52 ►
Now, we’re outside, and first I’ve got to set the scene.
01:01:54 ►
They have a mansion that overlooks Sydney Harbor.
01:01:57 ►
And, I mean, there’s, like, the mayor of Sydney is there.
01:02:00 ►
Members of Parliament, which would be like the United States Senators, are there.
01:02:03 ►
Members of the Supreme Court of Australia are there. Members of Parliament, which would be like United States Senators, are there. Members of the Supreme Court of Australia
01:02:06 ►
are there. All these,
01:02:08 ►
you know, the ultra-rich are there.
01:02:10 ►
The press is there.
01:02:11 ►
The Royal Philharmonic Orchestra
01:02:13 ►
string section is playing out
01:02:15 ►
of the veranda, okay? I mean, this is
01:02:18 ►
a burn, fucking deal, okay?
01:02:20 ►
And I got long hair and a
01:02:21 ►
Fu Manchu mustache, and I’m dressed
01:02:23 ►
up in a tuxedo, right?
01:02:25 ►
And we’re outside taking pictures of each other because we’re never dressed up, right?
01:02:29 ►
But for this big wedding, they know we’re dressed up.
01:02:32 ►
And I’m straight.
01:02:33 ►
And as I’m standing there taking pictures, somebody hands me a marijuana cigarette.
01:02:38 ►
My first of the day, the story officially begins.
01:02:42 ►
story officially begins.
01:02:59 ►
Well, by the time I blow that smoke back out, I’m more stoned than I’ve ever been in my life.
01:03:01 ►
I mean, just immediately, man, the ground is starting to move like this and people’s faces are
01:03:07 ►
so like any good doper I said whose dope is that
01:03:16 ►
where did that come from? Somebody down at the end goes,
01:03:27 ►
it’s Mike’s, the groom, my best friend.
01:03:33 ►
So, like any good doper,
01:03:36 ►
I went off in search of Mike.
01:03:42 ►
Mike, buddy,
01:03:43 ►
that is some good shit you’ve done i was yeah man doug and sue gave me an ounce of this
01:03:52 ►
stuff it’s from nepal n-e-p-a-l nepal is a little country between india and china it’s where the
01:04:00 ►
himalayan mountains are and in Nepal, marijuana has been legal
01:04:05 ►
for over 6,000 years of recorded history.
01:04:10 ►
And for 6,000 years,
01:04:13 ►
those little Tibetan monks
01:04:15 ►
have been working on developing a strain of marijuana
01:04:19 ►
that they consider to be spiritual.
01:04:27 ►
They’re out there talking to God with a shield.
01:04:35 ►
And my friend, my best friend, has an ounce of it.
01:04:43 ►
So like any good doper I said Mike
01:04:46 ►
god damn buddy
01:04:49 ►
this is your wedding night
01:04:52 ►
you have married a beautiful
01:04:54 ►
intelligent
01:04:55 ►
artistic
01:04:56 ►
rich woman
01:04:58 ►
who loves you
01:05:00 ►
this is the greatest party
01:05:03 ►
that I have ever seen in my life and you have in your possession
01:05:08 ►
certifiably the best dope in the whole world let’s go get stung
01:05:17 ►
Mike knows good idea. So I go off and get my wife, Kathy.
01:05:28 ►
And he goes off and gets his new wife, Dorothy.
01:05:31 ►
And he gets Doug and Sue, that’s the two people that gave him the dope to start with, you know, fair is fair, okay?
01:05:38 ►
And we slide out of the park. And, you know, we go out their back and their back of their estate
01:05:46 ►
is like terraced down
01:05:48 ►
to the edge of Sydney Harbor.
01:05:50 ►
And Sydney Harbor
01:05:51 ►
is very reminiscent
01:05:52 ►
of San Francisco Bay.
01:05:54 ►
It has got the bridge
01:05:55 ►
going across
01:05:56 ►
and, you know,
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it’s hilly
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and, you know,
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so the city lights
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are, you know,
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it’s very beautiful
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from, you know,
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this level.
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And so the city’s over here
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and the party’s going on up here,
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and six full-grown adult people who smoke a lot of dope at that time,
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we rolled one skinny little toothpick number of that Natalie’s wig.
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Second hit of the number, my wife in her formal dress hits the ground.
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Here, give me that.
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That’s some good shit, isn’t it?
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Kathy goes, oh, wow.
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Well, by the time the six of us have smoked this number,
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we are all on the floor okay or on the ground
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now when I’m in this position
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in this story
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I have
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I have collapsed
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underneath the tree
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okay
01:07:11 ►
I am propped up
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to the tree
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alright
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and when I say
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I am fucked up
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okay
01:07:16 ►
my face
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has melted
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off of my skull
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okay
01:07:21 ►
it has melted
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down to that
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right out here
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so words are like coming out
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around my belly button.
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But they’re coming out.
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I’m like…
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You know, the ground is going
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up and down like this. The tree
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is melting down on my head
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and musical notes are floating out
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across the sky
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from the party up on the hill, okay?
01:07:52 ►
I mean, I am, I am
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fucked up, okay?
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And we are all like that.
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I mean, we are all on the ground.
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We are just this close to comatose, okay?
01:08:05 ►
But we have managed to lay down with our feet coming together in a point.
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And the reason we are laying like this is when you’re this fucked up,
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you’ve got to be within double arm’s reach of one another.
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And if you expect that shit to get back around to you,
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you have got to lie with your feet coming together in a point.
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Mutual cooperation leads to mutual benefit, okay?
01:08:34 ►
When the money’s gone, only your knowledge gets you through, okay?
01:08:42 ►
So there we are, ground going up and down faces melting
01:08:46 ►
voices coming out
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notes floating out across the sky
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and like any good doper
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I said
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suck
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Dorothy
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why don’t we roll up a number
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that is some good shit
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so we rolled
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the second number
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took us a month some good shit. So we rolled the second number.
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Took us a month.
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Maybe a month and a half.
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Really slow time down, okay?
01:09:27 ►
We get the second number, Rob.
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We start it around the circle.
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The second hit of the second number, Mike, my friend, is laying to the right of me,
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tries to get up.
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He goes, Ronnie!
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Oh, God damn, help me!
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Oh, God, Ronnie, help me!
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Oh, Jesus!
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Oh, God! me. Oh God, Ronnie, help me. Oh Jesus. Oh God. And he falls face down in the middle of the circle. That’s something wrong with Mike.
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He passed up his turn on the number, man.
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So I crawl.
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I crawl to my best friend.
01:10:37 ►
I cannot stand up, okay?
01:10:39 ►
I crawl on my hands and knees.
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And I’m on my hands and knees when this happens,
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but so that all of you can see me, I’ll just do it like this.
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And Mike’s laying face down. i go mike mike which of course to me sound like more
01:10:57 ►
it isn’t funny man
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my Mike.
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And so I grab him and I roll him over.
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His eyes are open, but they’re rolled up inside his head.
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His mouth’s open, his tongue’s hanging out.
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Most gruesome thing I’ve ever seen.
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I go, Mike.
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Goddamn, Mike. And so I slap him. God damn, Mike.
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So I slap him.
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Whack his head.
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Boom, like that.
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And I, oh.
01:11:39 ►
So I reach for the artery alongside his neck, and there is no pulse, man. And I don’t know what to do, so I lift up, and I hit him as hard as I can, right on the heart.
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Wham! His body jerked. What is this? And nothing, man. And so I start artificial.
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Nothing. I turn to Dorothy, his wife, of about four hours. And I go,
01:12:08 ►
Mike’s dead. And Dorothy
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says, oh, wow.
01:12:19 ►
What a bummer.
01:12:24 ►
So I lay back down, okay?
01:12:28 ►
I don’t know what to do, and I’m too fucked up to do anything anyway.
01:12:32 ►
So we’re all just laying there looking at the body, right?
01:12:36 ►
Oh, wow.
01:12:39 ►
And about this time, Dorothy’s mother comes out of the party up on the hill, okay, going,
01:12:47 ►
Mike, Dorothy, it’s time for your speeches.
01:12:51 ►
Mike, Dorothy.
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We’re going, oh, wow.
01:12:59 ►
Mike, Dorothy, it’s time for your, oh, wow.
01:13:07 ►
Mike. She sees us way down there. she’s coming in and says is that you
01:13:09 ►
is that you we’re going
01:13:11 ►
oh wow
01:13:13 ►
is something wrong
01:13:15 ►
oh my god
01:13:17 ►
oh something’s wrong
01:13:19 ►
oh help help
01:13:21 ►
call the doctor oh my god
01:13:23 ►
oh my god and people start streaming out of this fucking party
01:13:27 ►
and running down the hill towards us.
01:13:28 ►
We’re going, oh.
01:13:32 ►
I mean, it’s a posse, okay?
01:13:37 ►
I’m a foreigner in a foreign land
01:13:40 ►
and there is a dead man in my feet
01:13:42 ►
and I’m too fucked up to get away, okay?
01:13:46 ►
Whatever is going to happen,
01:13:48 ►
I’m going to watch while melting underneath the tree, okay?
01:13:53 ►
Going, oh, wow.
01:13:56 ►
And Mike’s dad, who has come all the way from the U.S.
01:14:01 ►
for his only son’s wedding,
01:14:03 ►
is the first one on the group.
01:14:05 ►
He goes,
01:14:06 ►
my son is dead of a drug overdose
01:14:09 ►
and I want these five people
01:14:11 ►
arrested for murder.
01:14:13 ►
We’re going,
01:14:14 ►
oh, wow.
01:14:17 ►
And about this time,
01:14:19 ►
a doctor pushes his way through.
01:14:20 ►
He’s got a stethoscope on
01:14:22 ►
and he shoves everybody in
01:14:23 ►
and he leans over Mike
01:14:24 ►
and Mike sets up. He goes, a stethoscope on and he shoves everybody in and he leans over Mike and Mike
01:14:25 ►
sets up and goes, somebody want me to give a speech?
01:14:36 ►
If I’d been there when Jesus rose Lazarus, I could not have been more surprised, okay?
01:14:41 ►
have been more surprised, okay?
01:14:44 ►
My heart’s going boom, boom.
01:14:49 ►
And Mike stands up and walks up the hill and takes everybody with him
01:14:51 ►
except the five of us
01:14:53 ►
who are still laying underneath these trees going,
01:14:58 ►
oh, wow.
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And like any good doper,
01:15:10 ►
I said, hey, Dorothy, why don’t we roll up another one?
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I’m Ron Schott.