Program Notes

Guest speaker: Timothy Leary

[NOTE: All quotations are by Timothy Leary.]

“I like the Pope. I think he’s the finest mind of the 12th century.”

“It really is an awesome epidemic of deliberate stupidity that is laid upon us by the media, by the press, by the magazines and so forth. They simply do not raise any of the issues that will challenge our interest or intelligence.”

“There’s simply no question that anyone who knows anything about how to use brain-activating drugs and is operating with a clear mind, with no desire to screw other people’s minds up, whose willing to put in time and patience, and sensitivity, can help anyone wash their brain. There’s no longer any excuse for having a mind that you don’t like, or having a brain program that you’re dissatisfied with.”

“I’ve always hated the Second Law of Thermodynamics.”

“It always comes down to individual choices of what chemicals you’re going to use to stimulate your evolution.”

“You use a drug intelligently when you know what effect it’s going to have on you, and you use it at the time and the place that it’s going to add to your growth, or your fun, or your overall program of life management and directorship. And you’re not going to use a drug that in any way will fuck up, or slow down, or throw obstacles in your overall path.”

“Computers are to the Eighties what acid was to the Sixties.”

“One thing that drugs give you: Personal options to change your own mind, a way of rewarding yourself, of teaching yourself, of activating yourself, of changing yourself. And one thing that the power-holders do not want you to do as an individual is to change your own mind and learn how to reward yourself.”

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Greetings from Cyberdelic Space.

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This is Lorenzo, and I’m your host here in the Psychedelic Salon.

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This is Lorenzo, and I’m your host here in the Psychedelic Salon.

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And with me as my virtual host today are some fellow salonners who have either made a direct donation to the salon or who have purchased an audiobook version of my novel, The Genesis Generation.

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And I probably should mention that I’m not going to be able to read the names of anyone who buys a copy of that book on Kindle

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because Amazon doesn’t share that information with me.

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But you six kind souls who have bought a Kindle edition

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also are included in these thank yous,

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which today go out to

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Philip R., Martin H., Patrick B., Leo A., and Drew A.

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And I thank each and every one of you for your support.

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I really appreciate it.

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Now, what kind of mood are you in today? Wouldn’t it be nice if I could just ask you that before I

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decided to play each week and pick out something that would fit your mood? But since that really

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isn’t very practical, I guess you’re just going to have to put up with my own moods instead.

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And what kind of mood am I in today, you ask?

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Well, I’m actually in the mood to hear one of those old Terrence McKenna tapes

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that I haven’t previewed yet.

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But instead, I’m going to dip back into the Timothy Leary archive

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and play another of his talks,

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primarily because news of the acquisition of the Leary archive

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by the New York City Public Library has been making

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the rounds lately and is in the news. As you know, for the past several years here in the salon,

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we’ve been fortunate to be able to hear some of the audio recordings from that archive,

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thanks to the efforts of Dennis Berry, who had been responsible for the physical safety of the

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collection, and through Bruce Dahmer, who worked with Dennis,

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and who sent me a disk drive containing everything from that archive

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that had been digitized so far.

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The one person who I’ve been kind of remiss about thanking all along

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is Michael Horowitz, who is actually the archivist

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that collected and stored this material in the first place.

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And it is from a folder simply labeled

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Leary Audio slash Horowitz

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that I got this tape.

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Now, I don’t really think that Michael

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actually recorded every talk in that folder.

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Maybe he just digitized some of them.

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At least I don’t want to say that he

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did the recording on the talk we’re about to hear

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because of what was taped over to make this recording.

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And I’m not sure of exactly when this recording was made either,

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but from the content, my guess is that the talk was given sometime in the early 1980s

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in Minneapolis or St. Paul.

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But getting back to the recording itself,

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you see, during the Millbrook period in which Timothy set up a bunch of people in that big estate,

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while he spent most of his time

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in Manhattan, I should add. Well, during that time, one of the people who frequented the Millbrook

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estate was the late great Charlie Parker, a jazz saxophonist of tremendously great repute,

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and also one of my own favorite musicians, I should add. But while he was at Millbrook,

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at least so I’m told,

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there would be evenings when Parker and a few of his friends

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would play for the residents of that little commune,

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and occasionally recordings were made.

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Also, I’m told that years later it wasn’t uncommon

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to grab one of those old Millbrook tapes

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and record over them without first listening to what was on it.

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And my guess is that this was one of those tapes.

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Because for the first 27 minutes or so of this tape, I listened to some really great jazz,

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and then without any introduction, Timothy Leary began speaking.

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And that’s where I’m going to start today.

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But after about 10 minutes, you’re going to hear a little jump in the tape where

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I think the recorder must have been paused for some unknown amount of time and then turned back on again, which caused a little audio hiccup.

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Hopefully, we didn’t miss too much.

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And now I guess I should just get on with it.

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And here is what came immediately after the lovely Charlie Parker recording in the beginning of this tape.

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We watch television, we read the news,

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and we scan Time and Newsweek magazine,

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and one would think that insanity and stupidity

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are taking over the world,

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but actually there are enormous pockets of intelligence,

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goodwill, 21st century futuristic thinking,

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scientific paganism, you name it.

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Just an enormous number of wonderful, intelligent people around the country,

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and it’s nice for us to get together now and then, as we are tonight.

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How about a round of applause for us, huh?

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My own role in this, of course, is extremely amusing.

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I’m still trying to find out what my career is all about.

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It seems to have something to do with being a cheerleader for change.

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We don’t believe in leaders or followers, do we? But there is a function for cheerleaders who say rah, rah, rah for the future

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and give us

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another cheer

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for personal

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or species evolution,

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that sort of thing.

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There’s something

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very ironic

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that has happened

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to an entity

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which has very little

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to do with me,

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namely the public image

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of someone called

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Timothy Leary.

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I’m associated in the minds of most people public image of someone called Timothy Leary.

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I’m associated

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in the minds of most people

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as somehow being an advocate

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for drugs

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which raise intelligence

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and make people feel good.

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Now, this is a paradoxical

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position to be in,

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particularly since I don’t deserve the credit.

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I’m just one of like 70 million people who in the last 20 years have discovered that

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DNA, divine wisdom, biological intelligence, egg wisdom, God, I don’t care what name you

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want to give her, has arranged to evolve us to a position where we have a brain

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which has 40 billion cells.

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The computer people are now telling us that one single neuron

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is the equivalent of one of our large macro computers.

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So we’re dealing with a network of intelligence and reality fabrication

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inside our heads that 40 billion macro computers all hooked up,

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ready to do something,

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and we get smart enough to understand

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what we want it or him or her to do.

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So I’ve been in the position of about 70 million other people

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and that’s when you get to discovering,

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hey, you can access the brain,

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you can activate it,

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you can learn to, in the driver’s seat of it, you can learn to figure out how it operates

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and do anything you want it to do.

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I was extremely fortunate to come along

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in the early 1960s when this was becoming a way.

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It was obviously DNA, history, destiny, evolution,

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now’s the time for this species of

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domesticated primates to get smart. And this thing about image, I thought I forgot.

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Short term memory loss is one of our occupational hazards, isn’t it? I was on a radio program about two days ago. I was hyping a debate,

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which I do with G. Gordon Liddy, which is kind of amusing. And they have a special woman

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from March County named Grace that really calls in and attacks everyone. So Grace got

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on the phone. She said, that man should be killed, that man should be sent to jail for 40 years.

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That man has single-handedly caused American youth to take drugs and to ruin themselves.

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I have a 21-year-old boy whose life is ruined because of what that man did personally by himself.

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So the interviewer said, well, what drugs does your son take?

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She said, marijuana and beer.

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I submit I’m in a very interesting

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historical position, don’t you think so?

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Historians are going for a set

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you want to blame some of the one on.

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So I haven’t stuck with the image

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of being the drug advocate

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and of course just as close as any one of you.

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I have a lot of ideas which I’d like to share with you tonight.

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Two particularly hot ideas, hot in my psychology at the moment.

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hot ideas, hot in my psychology at the moment. One is the concept of the baby boomers. A new book out called Great Expectations by Landon Y. Jones. Have any of you read it?

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It’s an interesting book. It tells us what we all know anyway. That’s why I was at…

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In the years 1946 to 1964, something happened in this country which was a genetic monstrosity.

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It was an evolutionary genetic miracle. It probably never happened before in any of our court history.

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The birth rate doubled. Now, birth rates don’t double. Birth rates are like laws of gravity.

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They’re easily predicted like, you know, the law of levity that says it doesn’t take over,

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we have to help it happen, but there’s simply no way that they could have expected it.

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The baby boomer doubled between 1946 and 1964.

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They actually expected that the population of America would decline.

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Well, they knew that right after World War II, the soldier boys would come home and

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grope and mope and boop around, make a few babies, but they thought

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it would come in their route. But instead of that, 40 million more Americans were born

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between those years, 46 to 64, than were expected. 40 million aliens suddenly descended on this

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tiny little country of ours. It was a genetic, literally a genetic miracle. I personally take some

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guilty responsibility for this. After World War II, when we all came off of World War

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II, there was this mania to make babies. It’s called the procreation ethic. When I was a

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graduate student and a young professor, you know, if you didn’t have two or three babies,

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what’s wrong with you? You’re impotent or something?

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Everyone was having babies.

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It was me that took place in the United States.

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So going along with this demographic miracle of doubling up the population, also we’re

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treating our children differently.

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And how did these things develop?

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They’re obviously genetic, they’re obviously

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historical, they’re obviously collective hive consciousness messages that go out. But we

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decided that we were going to train our babies differently than any babies had been trained

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before. We were going to treat our children like equals. Can you imagine that? We were

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going to treat them like little human beings. We’re not going

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to lay upon them the economic fears, the moral guilts that our parents have laid on us and

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their parents have laid on them. Back to whenever they discovered the Judeo-Christian Ethic,

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whatever you want to call that monstrosity, parents’ job has been to scare children and

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in every way intimidate them and indoctrinate them

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so that they wouldn’t do what they wanted. So we decided, why? I was a total robot. My

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wife was too. We all were. Dr. Spock was saying, yeah, do it. But he was a robot too. We trained

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our little children, you know, hey, the world is here to please you. You can go anywhere

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you want. You can grow up and do anything you want. When they got to nursery school, we had to double the number of nursery schools.

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Nursery schools, for constant, didn’t exist for the middle class, only in the upper class.

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When they got to first grade, double the number of first grades.

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When they got to high school, you know what happened when they got to high school.

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We did another thing with our kids.

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They came along just at the time when what Alvin Toffler would call the third wave,

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the Information Society, the information society, the consumer

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society developed. Our kids that were born after 1946 were trained that the universe

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is a commercial offering you what you want. Ipanectupe, Coca-Cola, Pepsi-Cola. The whole

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world was tap dancing over the television set to please, to entice, to seduce our kids to expect the best.

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Now, when they got to high school and college, they wanted the best sex. They didn’t want

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to go to war. They didn’t want to be drafted. They wanted the best drugs. They simply weren’t

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going to put up with the nonsense that we put up with

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they were different

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because from the first time

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they crawled out of the cribs

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and I’m talking about you by the way

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this room is filled

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with alien intelligences

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they’ve taken over our planet

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and nobody knows what to do with you

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and it’s one of my functions

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as a cheerleader

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to remind you who you are and in every way encourage you to get what you want, which

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I assume is excellence. Even today, you know, an average working person is told that you

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have to have Calvin Klein or Gloria Vanderbilt’s name on your ass

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Karl Marx never dreamed that would happen, right?

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the average truck driver has Gucci shoes and a silver plated coke spoon

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I mean, so that

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it happened of course after Hiroshima, and I’m sure that the fact that

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nuclear energy was on the, nobody really wants to examine the implications of nuclear energy

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and the nuclear war in the early 50s, late 60s, there’s a lot of worry about it, and

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most of you people were exposed to that worry, and it’s coming back again in a more intelligent form now.

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But you have to face the fact that the people born between the ages of 46 and 64 are immune

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to the species.

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The planet Earth has never had to deal with people like you.

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You’ve been kind of laid back.

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We know what you did in the 60s.

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And I’m proud to say that intuitively, instinctively, genetically,

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I’m a robot wound up too,

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I somehow sensed back in the 60s what was happening.

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So I’ve just been enjoying and riding the wave

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of watching what happens as you, the baby boom generation,

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crashes like an avalanche, like a tsunami wave,

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like an enormous mass of 76 million people sweeping through American society.

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We’re learning, of course, that the Darwinian theory of evolution, which is based upon natural selection, based upon blind chance,

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is a pretty dumb theory of evolution, not the one that’s going to lead us proudly with our shoulders and heads into the 21st century.

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One of the ways that illusion works is humor.

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Young forms look at the old forms and say,

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hell no, we won’t go.

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Young dinosaurs look at old dinosaurs slogging around the swamp,

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like J. Edgar Hoover or Ronald Reagan,

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and say, hell no, we won’t go.

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So it’s one of my functions to make fun of the adult species.

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I’m sure and enlightened

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in Minneapolis, St. Paul, I can take a risky position and make fun of the number one sacred

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icon of American media, a man who’s so revered, who’s so upstanding that he can only be seen as a miracle of modern merchandising and marketing.

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There’s the person I want to make fun of at the moment. Have you ever noticed how much the Pope looks like Tom Landry? I’m not here to make enemies

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I don’t want to offend anyone

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but still

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and I like the Pope

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I think he’s the finest mind

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of the 12th century

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he regularly gives those

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you know

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marital counseling

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things every Wednesday

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he’d tell people that

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according to St. Paul

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and St. Augustine

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you know

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this is how you should

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handle your

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domestic relationships

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the Pope actually did say that it was a mortal sin for a husband to lust after his wife. It never

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occurred to St. Paul that the wife might want to lust after the husband, did it? But as

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part of this endemic, and it really is an awesome epidemic of deliberate stupidity that is laid upon us by the media, by the Pope was shot. I’m against violence.

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I think all violent people that like guns should be put in spaceships

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and in wonderful, comfortable, luxurious spaceships

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with non-ricochet corners and sent up to space.

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Or we should all get in luxurious spaceships

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and we could have space and let them have the planet.

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So I’m certainly not here to endorse people shitting the Pope.

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But I was amazed and amused by our intelligent opinion leaders like Barbara Cronkite, Walter

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Walters, whatever. What’s gone wrong? What’s gone wrong with human nature?

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The Pope.

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Who would want to shoot the Pope?

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Well, for starters, let’s look at…

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Yeah, there are 600 million

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people

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fundamentalist

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Arabs are like

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fundamentalist Christians

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they actually believe

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that that book

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written several hundred

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or more years ago

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is the total word of God

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to a fundamentalist

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I don’t want to

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insult any

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liberal left wing

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acid dropping

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Arabs in the room

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there’s one there’s one there’s one wing acid dropping Arabs in the room.

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There’s one, there’s one, there’s one.

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There’s one.

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But for a fundamentalist, Bible thumping Arab or Christian, it’s the same thing.

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They actually believe that the way to get

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to heaven, you know, is guaranteed

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to kill a Christian. Or as

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an added attraction, if you don’t kill a Christian, if you die

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trying to kill a Christian, you go to heaven.

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Well, let’s…

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I’ll put the picture of another

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non-baby boomer here.

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There’s an interesting man.

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You want to cheer and clap?

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How about a round of applause

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for the person that represents

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the information era,

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the man who taught us about

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relativity and multiple reality. How about a round of applause for the person that represents the information era, the man who taught us about relativity and multiple reality.

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How about a round of applause for Albert Einstein?

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Huh?

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All right.

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The last time I was in Minneapolis, in St. Paul, as a former Harvard scientist, I was

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really thrilled that it had never happened to any Harvard scientist before.

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It didn’t happen to Buckminster Fuller or to Ralph Waldo Emerson

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or to any of them.

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My opening act

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at Duffy’s Nightclub

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was a male striptease thing.

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How about that?

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What do we have tonight?

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A hip sophisticated

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cocktail party, right?

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Am I making progress

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or what?

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Anyway,

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I put the sperm on the board to

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kind of make fun of Charles Darwin and the Darwinian theory of evolution

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which is really well worth making fun of

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there’s been a big scene about the theory of evolution

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you know, the creationists versus darwinians

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any time that the press gives you a super bowl thing like that you know it’s like uh

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it’s like uh cincinnati bengals versus the uh yeah san francisco 49 as you know they’re not telling the real truth there’s anything about the arkansas genetics trial i don’t know if I follow this very carefully

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because it’s like my career, but the most intelligent things that were said at that

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trial were not the civil liberties union proving that life is a Darwinian plot of four to a

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billion years of male competition being at a bigger and better rate. The most interesting

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thing said at that trial was by a man named Vikram Singh.

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He’s a Hindu geneticist-chemist.

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Do any of you know him?

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He wrote a book called Life Cloud with Hoyle, the astronomer.

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He came over and he was on the side of the creationists.

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He said, well, I don’t believe in this theory that Jehovah made the world in four days,

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four thousand years ago, but there is a creative intelligence that’s designing evolution on this planet and it’s not a blind chance he said to think that in four billion

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years you could create an incredibly intelligent species like ours with Monday night football and

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Howard Cosell in four and a half billion years is impossible by chance he said that the Darwinian

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theory basically says that a tornado could fly through a junkyard and assemble

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a 747.

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That was a good headline.

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But the creationists lost.

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The reason they lost was because they were defending a theory of evolution which is based

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upon the Judeo-Christian Bible.

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I have a lot of fun.

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I go on radio programs, television programs, and I say that the Bible

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is such a sick comic book that I don’t say any parent of a child would allow their children

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to read such a book. In the first, second, third, fourth chapters of the Bible, Jehovah,

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the God of the Bible, who is a bad-tempered, mean, macho, mafia, condominium owner, he

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gets pissed off at some whim

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and he’s mad at the whole human race

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and he snuffs the whole human race

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except for Noah,

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who is his resident manager or something.

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I mean, people believe that.

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Well, anyway, Jehovah,

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according to the Bible,

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said to Adam,

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well, it’s the year 4000 B.R.

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That’s before Reagan.

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And I’m going to send my only son Ralph down to blow the whole thing up

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during the fourth budgetary planning session of the second Reagan administration.

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But meanwhile I’ve got this Garden of Eden and Adam is allowed to do whatever you want in it.

00:23:13

Eve too. He says there are two food and drug regulations. There’s this tree here. You’re disallowed.

00:23:23

It’s a controlled substance substance you’re forbidden by law

00:23:25

to in any way ingest

00:23:26

you know why

00:23:27

if you ingest this substance

00:23:28

you’ll double your intelligence

00:23:30

see through good

00:23:30

and even become a god like me

00:23:31

do you want to become a god like me

00:23:32

and Adam said no

00:23:33

sir I don’t want to become a god like you

00:23:35

and he said

00:23:35

there’s another tree over here

00:23:37

if you look at this tree

00:23:39

this tree is the

00:23:40

microgenetic

00:23:42

immunology tree

00:23:44

which will give you immortality

00:23:46

and inoculation against death

00:23:48

and you live forever and be God like me.

00:23:49

And Adam said no.

00:23:51

And of course you’re well aware of the fact

00:23:52

that the Judeo-Christian Bible is very down on women.

00:23:56

They lay all the blame on Eve.

00:23:58

As soon as Jehovah

00:23:59

jumped into his squad car and backed headquarters

00:24:02

Eve went over

00:24:04

to the intelligence-raising vegetable

00:24:07

and she sniffed it or ingested it

00:24:10

and as a good friend to Adam,

00:24:13

poor straight arrow Adam,

00:24:17

she got him to eat thereof

00:24:19

and the first narcotics bust in history

00:24:23

happens in the first page of Genesis.

00:24:31

I know you’ve all heard this before,

00:24:34

but I think it’s one of my duties to repeat this story and repeat this story because the entire Christian religion is based upon original sin.

00:24:38

I was taught about original sin. You were taught original sin.

00:24:40

What’s this original sin?

00:24:42

The reason that the planet Earth is a terrible

00:24:45

place. The reason that there’s so much suffering down here is because we all fucked up. And

00:24:50

what was the original fuck up? What was the original sin? Eating intelligence-raising

00:24:55

fruit in the Garden of Eden. No wonder, no wonder they raised so much trouble about dope.

00:25:05

No wonder, no wonder they raise so much trouble about dope.

00:25:09

When I was a Harvard, you know, researcher, this is gonna be a snap.

00:25:11

There’s simply no question that anyone

00:25:12

who understands anything about how to use

00:25:15

brain activating drugs and is operating with a clear mind,

00:25:20

with no desire to screw other people’s minds up,

00:25:23

who’s willing to put in time and patience and sensitivity,

00:25:27

can help anyone wash their brains.

00:25:30

There’s no longer any excuse for having a mind that you don’t like,

00:25:33

or having a brain problem that you’re dissatisfied with.

00:25:36

We know enough now, and we knew enough 20 years ago,

00:25:39

how to wash brains.

00:25:40

We thought it was the most simple thing in the world.

00:25:42

Who wouldn’t want to have this power?

00:25:44

Not only was it no big deal that we discovered it, we looked back in the history

00:25:50

books and found out that the first book of the Vedas, the first Hindu texts about yoga,

00:25:55

self-development, individual development, was based upon Soma, which was some sort of

00:26:01

brain-activating, brain-washing, psychotropic? We’re part of the longest tradition in history of people who stumbled on

00:26:08

and continually rediscover the fact that the human brain can be changed,

00:26:12

and the way to do it is to use the chemicals.

00:26:16

Now, listen, it is not my fault.

00:26:20

I don’t think we’re putting the opium receptors in the human nervous system.

00:26:21

I’d end up putting the opium receptors

00:26:23

in the human nervous system

00:26:24

the fact that you have

00:26:27

a receptor in your brain

00:26:29

and they’re resistant for acid

00:26:30

is not my problem

00:26:31

I really think it’s time

00:26:36

to make serious fun

00:26:38

of the Darwinian theory

00:26:39

because it’s a 19th century theory

00:26:42

based upon the playing fields

00:26:44

of eaten philosophy of the British Empire

00:26:46

at the peak of its kind of male-macho Victorian situation.

00:26:51

According to the current orthodox theory taught in our colleges,

00:26:55

life on this planet was originated…

00:26:59

How?

00:27:01

A bunch of sophisticated people in St. Paul, Minnesota sitting around on Friday night? No.

00:27:07

And thinking about an ice cream machine to make a world? No. It was all an accident.

00:27:13

One night in the Precambrian slime, four and a half billion years ago, there was a bunch of methane molecules

00:27:17

having a party with some emollient molecules, divided them from hydrogen grids and oxygen boys,

00:27:21

and basically by lighting they all began to copulate. If it hadn’t been for that catastrophe

00:27:26

we would be sitting here

00:27:27

in the beach club.

00:27:31

Pretty good.

00:27:32

Anyway, I’m happy to be here.

00:27:36

But this theory of accident, you know,

00:27:39

is a chance.

00:27:41

Then the theory holds that we’d still be

00:27:43

unicellular creatures

00:27:44

booping around in the pre-cambrian slime

00:27:47

dividing unicellularly, monosexually

00:27:50

except every thousand times we spit

00:27:53

there was a copying error, a glitch, a boo-boo

00:27:54

a genetic mistake

00:27:56

out of ten thousand of these

00:27:58

one would make a male bigger, stronger

00:28:00

bigger fangs, bigger claws

00:28:01

so that the male could push the other males around

00:28:03

and knock up poor, round-heeled, dumb, passive-ness egg.

00:28:07

Now that’s basically the theory of evolution that’s been taught in our high schools and

00:28:11

biology centers for the last…

00:28:15

The way the biologists, you know, Thomas Kuhn has talked about how you introduce a new concept

00:28:19

into any society.

00:28:21

The way the Darwinians will twist anything to prove that it’s all natural selection,

00:28:26

there couldn’t possibly be any intelligence behind it. It’s all blind chance, it’s all

00:28:31

just random mutation. They don’t want to allow the possibility that there was any planfulness,

00:28:36

any vitalistic forward-looking intelligence. For example, the whole theory of natural selection.

00:28:41

intelligence for example

00:28:42

the whole theory of

00:28:43

natural selection

00:28:47

now how do we evolve

00:28:48

in natural selection

00:28:49

that’s a tautology

00:28:50

it means that

00:28:51

those that survive

00:28:53

are the survivors

00:28:53

that those that were

00:28:54

selected were selected

00:28:55

it’s an absolute

00:28:56

talk about gibberish

00:28:57

I mean

00:28:58

the fact that Ralph died

00:28:59

came down and died

00:29:01

for our sins

00:29:01

makes about as much sense

00:29:03

as to say that

00:29:03

natural selection

00:29:04

is the key to evolution today.

00:29:07

Even the theory of how you and I were

00:29:10

conceived is

00:29:12

again a tremendous insult to our sense of singularity and courage and imagination and

00:29:19

confidence in moving to the future. The theory was that you and I were conceived one night when your father made love to your mother and introduced her to a reproductive tract 400 million spermatozoa.

00:29:29

Now I call your attention to that sleazy Protestant epic term, reproductive tract.

00:29:36

I don’t think any woman in the room would accept that.

00:29:42

Shuffle off reproductive tract.

00:29:44

You’re like Hong Kong sweatshop workers.

00:29:49

You know, the planet Darwinian theory,

00:29:50

soon as the 400 million spermatozoa got into the reproductive,

00:29:53

or as we say today, the recreational tract of the female.

00:30:00

Bang! Then started the largest mock-spit-swing race in history,

00:30:03

400 million spermatozoa

00:30:05

doing the Australian crawl, the first one to get to poor Miss, you know, jockstraps,

00:30:08

get out of the way, the first one to get there, roll over, I’m gonna knock you up. Now is

00:30:11

that, is that a theory of evolution that will, makes you want to move gloriously off the

00:30:16

planet throughout the galaxy? No, what, I mean, come on, what, what low-level, narrow-minded,

00:30:22

petty theories of evolution, jockstrapsraps, swimmers, and so forth.

00:30:27

We all know it’s the egg that decides which sperm.

00:30:30

The egg is, some say the egg is 50,000 pounds bigger than the sperm,

00:30:35

so who’s going to rake whom, right?

00:30:38

Also, the egg makes the final cell division,

00:30:41

that she actually decides which sperm to bring in,

00:30:43

closes the door to the rest of them, she looks them over in the parlor, and if and when she decides she wants

00:30:48

to undress her chromosomes, only then does she make her final split. It’s entirely decided

00:30:54

by the egg. Now, I could give you a lot of scientific explanation of that, but I’d rather

00:30:59

give you… Yes, want to say something?

00:31:02

Randomness can be as God-given as directivity.

00:31:05

You’ve got a real problem with the directivity stuff

00:31:09

when you take the good old second law of thermodynamics out.

00:31:15

You’re not going to stand here

00:31:17

and defend the second law of thermodynamics, are you?

00:31:21

Are you?

00:31:23

Okay, let’s go for that.

00:31:25

Is it alright if I take five minutes out

00:31:26

to have a hammer and tong thing on the second thought?

00:31:29

Listen, we’re going to repeal

00:31:30

the second law of thermodynamics right here.

00:31:32

You ready?

00:31:33

Do you know about the name Ilya Prigogine?

00:31:36

How many of you in this room know about Prigogine?

00:31:38

Prigogine won the Nobel Prize

00:31:39

when he was in 1967.

00:31:41

He has literally repealed

00:31:42

the second law of thermodynamics

00:31:43

which was a Protestant ethic

00:31:45

capitalistic trick

00:31:46

you know that the

00:31:47

universe doesn’t run down

00:31:49

like a bank

00:31:50

you know

00:31:50

it’s not like

00:31:51

depletable oil supplies

00:31:52

the second law of thermodynamics

00:31:54

works only in closed systems

00:31:56

and the theory of

00:31:57

dissipative structures

00:31:58

of Prigogine

00:31:59

shows that

00:31:59

sure

00:32:00

when closed systems collapse

00:32:02

they don’t just collapse

00:32:04

into

00:32:04

thermodynamic zeros

00:32:06

they reconstruct

00:32:08

and they reconstruct

00:32:09

at a higher level

00:32:10

it’s called evolution

00:32:11

oh yeah

00:32:12

the second law of thermodynamics

00:32:13

has been repealed

00:32:14

isn’t that wonderful

00:32:15

how about three cheers

00:32:17

for that

00:32:17

I’ve always hated

00:32:20

the second law of thermodynamics

00:32:22

entropy

00:32:23

you know entropy you know they said intelligence was anti-entropy as though intelligence I’ve always hated the second law of thermodynamics. Entropy. You know, entropy.

00:32:26

You know how they said intelligence was anti-entropy?

00:32:28

As though intelligence was some kind of dumb thing you did to try to stop the inevitable?

00:32:33

Here we are, Wednesday night, talking about thermodynamics.

00:32:37

Isn’t it wonderful?

00:32:40

Let’s hold that for a minute.

00:32:42

You want to talk about life extension right now?

00:32:46

There are at least ten scientists in the country today,

00:32:49

reputable scientists.

00:32:50

If you wire them or talk to them tomorrow,

00:32:51

they’ll tell you that the chances are 50-50

00:32:53

that within two and five to ten years

00:32:55

we will double the human lifespan.

00:32:59

Now, if they double the human lifespan,

00:33:01

particularly for those of you baby boomers,

00:33:03

that means that you’re going to be well alive

00:33:05

in the middle of the 21st century.

00:33:07

Can you imagine the scientific changes

00:33:09

that are going to take place?

00:33:10

There’s a book by Alan Harrington

00:33:13

called The Immortalist.

00:33:14

How many of you have read it?

00:33:15

You know, come on!

00:33:17

This stuff is in the literature.

00:33:20

You know, I’m not making this up.

00:33:21

You have an acid trip here

00:33:22

and just hallucinating in front of you?

00:33:24

I mean, read Omni magazine.

00:33:29

Penthouses for the girls.

00:33:32

No, there’s an enormous literature now building up on life extensions.

00:33:36

And it’s going to happen.

00:33:37

We were talking about that day.

00:33:38

There are at least eight theories about how it’s going to happen.

00:33:40

Once you get a science that says there are eight ways we’re going to do it,

00:33:44

we’re going to do it. we’re going to do it.

00:33:46

Dying is definitely a state of mind.

00:33:49

I agree.

00:33:50

We’ve had at least 3,000 years of Judeo-Critic ethics saying

00:33:53

the purpose of life is death.

00:33:55

And it’s a bowl of tears and mush down here.

00:33:57

The best thing you can do is live quickly and get off.

00:34:00

The faster you get off, the better.

00:34:02

So if there’s anyone in this room that wants to die, I not going to take it away from you I mean really do your thing but

00:34:11

you must also accept the possibility that there are a lot of us that are

00:34:14

going to live forever or die in the attempt let me go on for a little while and then we’ll come back to that

00:34:26

alright

00:34:26

I was telling you about

00:34:28

conception

00:34:29

I’d like to tell you the story

00:34:31

of my own conception

00:34:32

because it flies headlong

00:34:34

into the Darwinian theory

00:34:36

of how we were all conceived

00:34:39

I’ve traced it back

00:34:42

and I was conceived

00:34:42

on January 17th, 1920

00:34:44

which happens to be

00:34:45

the first day

00:34:46

that alcohol prohibition

00:34:47

went into effect

00:34:48

in the United States

00:34:48

that’s kind of interesting

00:34:52

isn’t it

00:34:53

do you know that

00:34:54

the night that alcohol prohibition

00:34:55

went into effect

00:34:56

in the United States

00:34:56

in places like St. Paul

00:34:57

and in New York

00:34:58

and so forth

00:34:59

at midnight

00:35:00

the streets were covered

00:35:02

with drunken bodies

00:35:04

and hotel lobbies were filled

00:35:06

because people seriously believed that they’d never get another drink.

00:35:11

My father used to say to me,

00:35:14

well, alcohol prohibition is terrible, but it’s not as bad as no booze at all.

00:35:23

Well, I remember the night I was conceived.

00:35:27

I found myself in a very comfortable place.

00:35:31

Came around a corner.

00:35:33

It’s a very highly intelligent egg.

00:35:36

She strobed me.

00:35:37

She looked me over.

00:35:39

She said,

00:35:40

you and I could cause a lot of trouble down there.

00:35:44

Slurp.

00:35:47

The point I’m trying to make at this moment

00:35:50

is that we have been taught that evolution operates over hundreds and hundreds of millions of years

00:35:55

and that we have nothing to do with it.

00:35:57

That we can do nothing about it, therefore just lay back

00:35:59

and don’t worry about it because it’s out of our control.

00:36:01

I consider any doctrine or philosophy or theory which encourages you to passivity, stupidity, laziness, and giving up to be a deliberate

00:36:11

attempt to keep us stupid and inactive. The facts of that are that Larmakianism is back,

00:36:17

not at the level of morphology, but at the level of microgenetics, that the DNA can learn

00:36:22

within our lifetime, we can change within our lifetime, and there’s simply no limits to anyone in this room. If you keep your eyes and ears open and

00:36:28

read the scientific literature, that you can evolve just many levels farther than you’d ever

00:36:34

conceived possible when you were in junior high school. And of course, the way it operates,

00:36:40

if enough of us come to this conclusion, it’s called swarming, the demographics of evolution,

00:36:45

we can all evolve as a species as well.

00:36:48

It always comes down to individual choices

00:36:50

of what chemicals you’re going to use to stimulate your evolution.

00:37:00

Do you remember when we were all amoebas in the Precambrian Swamp?

00:37:04

I’m sure you’ve been there.

00:37:05

That was a very successful form of life.

00:37:09

The amoeba has a simple nervous system.

00:37:12

It’s equipped to float and suck.

00:37:15

Evolution from the unicellular stage took place

00:37:17

when some of us began hanging around shallow pools

00:37:20

ingesting a dangerous drug called what?

00:37:24

Calcium.

00:37:22

ingesting a dangerous drug called what?

00:37:24

Calcium.

00:37:28

The first drug that got us moving from the unicellular state

00:37:31

was calcium.

00:37:33

Now calcium was attacked

00:37:35

by the AMA,

00:37:37

that’s the Amoeba Medical Association,

00:37:39

as being a very dangerous drug.

00:37:42

Right, yeah.

00:37:44

Calcium. Calcium.

00:37:45

Calcium causes bones to grow,

00:37:47

causes head-tail asymmetries.

00:37:49

Dangerous drug.

00:37:51

The amoeba theologian said,

00:37:53

if your children ingest calcium,

00:37:56

they’ll swim away from home,

00:37:57

you’ll never see them again.

00:37:58

If God wanted amoebas to grow bones,

00:38:01

she would not have made calcium illegal.

00:38:05

Then we got, we went through that stage and we got to the fish level.

00:38:09

We got to the fish level, got to be pretty crowded, and so on.

00:38:12

We began hanging around.

00:38:13

Migration, migration of these mutations, we migrated to the,

00:38:17

we migrated to the shoreline and began ingesting an extremely dangerous drug called oxygen.

00:38:26

Oxygen.

00:38:28

The Fish Medical Association said,

00:38:33

oxygen is a lethal drug.

00:38:36

And then our pharmacologist said,

00:38:38

no man, not when you cut it with hydrogen.

00:38:43

And nitrogen.

00:38:42

not when you cut it with hydrogen and nitrogen

00:38:44

I’m going to stop and get some questions

00:38:51

anyone ask any questions?

00:38:52

yes, sure

00:38:53

my question to you is

00:38:55

do you feel there are other techniques

00:38:56

for taking the same type of drugs

00:38:58

outside of taking external drugs?

00:39:03

the question is

00:39:04

I think there are other ways

00:39:05

to increase your intelligence

00:39:06

and to grow any vow personally

00:39:07

beyond drugs.

00:39:10

Is that fair?

00:39:12

Okay, let’s talk about drugs.

00:39:14

As part of my karma

00:39:15

that I have to talk about drugs.

00:39:19

The problem with drugs,

00:39:22

and we’re talking about

00:39:22

brain change drugs,

00:39:23

is this.

00:39:25

Stupid people use drugs stupidly.

00:39:28

Gross and vulgar people use drugs grossly and vulgarly.

00:39:33

Intelligent people use drugs intelligently.

00:39:36

People who want to grow and change and devote all of their life to step-by-step evolving, developing, learning,

00:39:43

use drugs to evolve and grow.

00:39:46

I mean, those people that are looking to knock themselves out and get fucked up into escape

00:39:50

are going to use drugs to do that.

00:39:52

That seems to be the nature.

00:39:53

Now, all I can do as an evolutionary agent and cheerleader is to increase the level of

00:39:59

people that will think intelligently and think about living a life of growth and development.

00:40:03

That’s why I’m urging everyone, rah, rah, rah for change.

00:40:06

You can evolve.

00:40:06

You can grow.

00:40:07

You can develop.

00:40:08

And if they get that message,

00:40:09

they’ll use drugs

00:40:10

to play that part.

00:40:13

Now, you talk about anyone using drugs,

00:40:15

you say,

00:40:15

what do you mean using drugs intelligently?

00:40:18

See, today it’s the brain

00:40:19

that’s the taboo organ.

00:40:20

You know, the body taboo is over.

00:40:22

Now, most intelligent Americans

00:40:23

realize it’s your body.

00:40:24

No doctor can really help. You’ve got to learn how to do it yourself stay away from hospitals hospitals or warehouses

00:40:28

for diseases blah blah blah we all know that a hundred years ago drug education said one thing

00:40:36

don’t i have personally read and i’m sure you’ve heard about books that were written by psychiatrists

00:40:41

and the top establishment people a hundred years ago they said,

00:40:48

masturbation will put you right in the mental hospital.

00:40:52

I can always tell a premarital sex person because they won’t look you in the eye.

00:40:55

Premarital intercourse will lead straight to brain destruction.

00:41:00

It’ll break your chromosomes.

00:41:02

It’ll ruin your chance to be a good mother or father blah blah blah

00:41:05

a hundred years ago they were saying the same thing about sex

00:41:07

as they’re now saying about drugs in the brain

00:41:09

because the brain is a tubal organ

00:41:11

now when I say that there’s no intelligent education

00:41:16

on how to use drugs

00:41:17

you know there was a big campaign about two months ago

00:41:20

in the Los Angeles Times

00:41:22

they said hey we’re going to have a big drug education program.

00:41:25

We’re going to wipe out all drug use

00:41:28

in Los Angeles County.

00:41:29

Ha ha.

00:41:32

When I say over radio or television,

00:41:35

we’ve got to use drugs intelligently,

00:41:37

do you know that that pisses people off?

00:41:39

They don’t want to hear me say in public

00:41:41

we should learn how to use drugs intelligently

00:41:44

because you’re not supposed to use them at all.

00:41:46

Then they say, well, what do you mean?

00:41:47

How do you use drugs intelligently?

00:41:49

Which I think is coming back to your question,

00:41:50

or part of your question,

00:41:51

or is now our question, right?

00:41:54

Well, you use the drug intelligently

00:41:56

when you know exactly what effect it’s going to have on you,

00:41:59

and you use it at the time and the place

00:42:01

that it’s going to add to your growth,

00:42:04

or your fun, or your overall program of life management and directorship.

00:42:10

And you’re not going to use a drug that in any way will fuck up or slow down or throw obstacles in your overall…

00:42:17

But that assumes that you’re an intelligent person who has some concept of planning or managing or directing the movie of your life.

00:42:26

But within that context, yeah, I think that drugs are by far,

00:42:31

the intelligence of drugs, by far the best way to learn how to brainwash yourself,

00:42:35

get control of your consciousness, create the realities you want to have.

00:42:38

The thing about drugs, though, is that, and again you’re talking about drugs when?

00:42:42

Drugs in 1966, drugs in 1972, 1980. The drugs we’re using now are going to be very different. Like every week

00:42:51

I’m lucky enough to go into another city and if I’m really lucky I’m invited to a party

00:42:56

where some chemist takes me aside and says, hey Timothy, we got a new brand X here if

00:43:01

you try that. It’s twice as strong as LSD and lasts for 10 minutes you want to try?

00:43:06

so again the whole

00:43:08

concept of drugs now

00:43:09

for the last 20 years

00:43:10

our great research

00:43:12

institutes apparently

00:43:13

have done nothing

00:43:14

to give us

00:43:15

something wrong

00:43:15

with LSD

00:43:16

give us a better drug

00:43:17

something wrong

00:43:17

with heroin

00:43:18

makes you addictive

00:43:18

good

00:43:19

get rid of the addiction

00:43:20

give us drugs

00:43:21

that will give us

00:43:21

exactly the options

00:43:23

the choices

00:43:23

the management

00:43:24

decisions that will allow us to do options, the choices, the management decisions

00:43:25

that will allow us to do what we want with our brains.

00:43:28

So yes, beyond that more philosophic biogenetic theory of drugs,

00:43:34

I think that LSD, we say it’s a key that opens up all the wonderful ballrooms in your mind.

00:43:39

Well, that was a Newtonian concept.

00:43:41

I’d not prefer to think of any drug as a computer code.

00:43:46

It punches you in,

00:43:47

it accesses circuits,

00:43:49

areas, problems in your brain.

00:43:51

Are you into computers at all?

00:43:55

Yeah.

00:43:55

You know, if you work with computers,

00:43:57

you get to that thing with a computer

00:43:58

where you’ve got all that stuff in the computer

00:44:00

but you keep pressing that

00:44:01

and you say execute

00:44:02

and it comes back syntax error.

00:44:09

You can’t fucking access your own computer to get the stuff you want out that’s the story of the human brain which is made up of 40 billion cells each of which is the biggest

00:44:13

computer so when we talk about drugs and yes or no and so forth we have to be very specific and

00:44:18

individual about which drug who you are at your life right now what you want to do with your life

00:44:23

question who you are at your life right now, what you want to do with your life. Question?

00:44:25

Yeah.

00:44:27

There’s a whole history of people that have achieved enlightenment,

00:44:29

achieved intelligence and awareness

00:44:30

without chemicals.

00:44:32

You know, there’s people also on history

00:44:34

that have kept a ball in themselves

00:44:37

and not behaved enough.

00:44:40

Name one.

00:44:42

I don’t know if I’m a Christian.

00:44:44

Yeah. But, you know, I assume that… Buddha had his first enlightenment Name one. I don’t want to be a person.

00:44:45

Yeah.

00:44:48

But, you know, I assume that… Buddha had his first enlightenment eating mushrooms under the Bodhi tree.

00:44:51

Next question.

00:44:54

Well, the first position that was presented here was that throughout human history

00:44:58

there have been many, many wise women and men who have achieved enlightenment,

00:45:02

illumination, satori, bliss, and so forth,

00:45:04

apparently without the use of drugs, although we’re not sure,

00:45:07

because we know that the people that run history do everything in their power

00:45:12

to not tell us about the fact that drugs have been used in every society in the past.

00:45:17

But let’s grant, though, that it is possible to get as illuminated or enlightened

00:45:21

without drugs as with drugs.

00:45:24

I think that’s wonderful.

00:45:26

And see, I’m always being put in the position of saying, I’m not trying to tell anyone here

00:45:30

to use drugs. Drugs are an option. Drugs are a possibility. Drugs are the same thing like

00:45:34

airplanes, something like, you know, you can take the Concorde and you can go from Paris

00:45:40

to New York in three hours. You can take a canoe and it will take you six weeks. I don’t care if you go at all.

00:45:45

On the other hand,

00:45:46

I find it interesting, though,

00:45:48

that although 70 million Americans

00:45:51

use drugs now and then,

00:45:53

there are about 10 million

00:45:54

who have used LSD.

00:45:56

There are an enormous number

00:45:57

of the smartest Americans I know

00:45:58

that use drugs regularly.

00:46:00

And somehow or other,

00:46:01

there are very few people

00:46:02

that will stand up in public

00:46:03

and say,

00:46:04

the intelligent use of drugs is an option for an intelligent American and don’t let anyone talk you out And somehow or other, there are very few people that will stand up in public and say,

00:46:08

the intelligent use of drugs is an option for an intelligent American,

00:46:11

and don’t let anyone talk you out of it if you want to try it.

00:46:13

You can get in fucking trouble saying that.

00:46:16

And not only trouble, but just plain, you know.

00:46:17

And I agree.

00:46:20

I never, none of us have ever said, we’re going to bust you if you don’t take acid,

00:46:23

or we’re going not to talk to you anymore if you…

00:46:25

And certainly society

00:46:27

in every way has presented your point.

00:46:30

The Reader’s Digest does it every Monday.

00:46:32

Every magazine, Timings,

00:46:34

you name it. So the points you’re bringing up

00:46:36

to kind of discourage drug use is

00:46:37

valid, so we’ll take them, but certainly not new.

00:46:39

And I love it when people put drugs down.

00:46:42

I love it when people call up on radio shows

00:46:43

and say, that’s terrible, that’s, you know, fine,

00:46:47

because I think that you should be very aware,

00:46:51

be very careful, be very cautious.

00:46:53

You should know exactly what you’re doing before you take drugs.

00:46:55

So, maybe you see, the terrible thing about it is,

00:46:58

we are all so different genetically, neurologically.

00:47:01

You know, one martini turns some guy into an ape.

00:47:05

You know, ten martinis and the average Irishman says, let’s have a drink, neurologically. You know, one martini turns some guy into an ape. You know, ten martinis

00:47:06

and the average Irishman says,

00:47:07

let’s have a drink.

00:47:09

You know, there is simply,

00:47:10

there’s simply nothing

00:47:12

but rampant individuality

00:47:14

when it comes to the human brain,

00:47:16

human’s nervous system

00:47:16

and its access to my drug.

00:47:18

Listen, let’s take a ten minute break.

00:47:20

Everyone gets…

00:47:22

Yeah.

00:47:26

Answer down here. All right. For 10 or 15 years

00:47:28

we’ve all been trying to

00:47:29

evolve.

00:47:32

And it hasn’t worked.

00:47:38

What can we do to try

00:47:40

to bring in

00:47:41

all of American society

00:47:44

to evolve in the way that we want to evolve.

00:47:48

Do you want that question answered right now?

00:47:51

I’ll do it.

00:47:52

Should I tell you?

00:47:53

You got to give him intelligent marks.

00:47:56

He’s higher than we are, right?

00:48:00

He’s learned lesson number four

00:48:02

when we got off forefoot and climbed trees.

00:48:04

He’s free up there. He’s got access to the bar.

00:48:10

And you’ve got our attention.

00:48:12

In answer to your question, do you want a real jolt of genetic optimism?

00:48:17

I mean, I’ll give you a real mainline scientific blast of optimism.

00:48:21

You want it?

00:48:23

Okay. Evolution makes no mistakes. If you don’t understand

00:48:27

what evolution is doing at the moment and you’re upset and you think that it’s going

00:48:30

to boom and doom and so forth, it’s because you don’t understand the thrust, the trajectory,

00:48:35

the purpose, the intelligent blueprint of evolution. Evolution wants to get smarter.

00:48:40

Evolution, she wants us all to… Why? Well, wouldn’t you do that if you were her? She wants

00:48:46

us to move higher and faster. She wants us to get off

00:48:47

the planet. In

00:48:49

1988, there’s going to be a revolution

00:48:51

in this country because at that time, the baby boom,

00:48:54

an entirely new

00:48:55

generation of mutants will be

00:48:57

between the ages of 24 and 42.

00:49:00

76 million Americans between

00:49:01

the ages of 24 and

00:49:03
  1. You’ve got the whole country in your hand. If you have this country in your hand, you’ve got the whole country in your hand.
00:49:07

If you have this country in your hand,

00:49:08

you’ve got the whole world in your hand.

00:49:10

You haven’t understood your strength yet.

00:49:12

In the next few years,

00:49:13

enough of us will be going around saying what I’m doing

00:49:15

and shouting and screaming at you,

00:49:17

get off your asses.

00:49:18

Here we have 200 of the smartest minds in Minnesota.

00:49:24

How are we going to harness this energy in the next…

00:49:26

Listen, let me help you do a Gallup test.

00:49:28

Suppose it’s 1988 right now,

00:49:30

and I say to you,

00:49:31

listen, it’s 1988,

00:49:32

and a new election coming up.

00:49:34

I want you to answer me yes or no.

00:49:37

Now, aren’t you bored with another election

00:49:40

of dinosaur donkey Democrats and Republicans?

00:49:42

Yes? Yes!

00:49:45

Don’t you think that partisan animal politics,

00:49:47

partisan shouting and screaming

00:49:49

is a dumb way to run a country?

00:49:52

Yeah.

00:49:53

Don’t you think that we should try to get

00:49:54

the most intelligent women and men,

00:49:56

hook them up with the best computers,

00:49:58

poll everybody and find out

00:49:59

logical scientific questions

00:50:01

to harmonize and collaborate

00:50:02

instead of that stupid, horrible, greedy Democrat-Republican politics?

00:50:06

Yes. Yes.

00:50:08

I mean, it’s going to happen in 1988.

00:50:11

I’ll be back in ten minutes.

00:50:19

Well, I want you to know that every word I’ve spoken tonight is part of a carefully calibrated and computed transmission.

00:50:29

If it seemed to you that I’ve been rambling, it’s because I have been moving from level to level,

00:50:34

because I’m dealing with a room filled with people with 40 billion cell computers,

00:50:39

and that I know you’re receiving at one level or another every one of these important survival signals. One of our strategies back in the 1960s was that things really led many of us to believe that some sort of a jolt, a shock, a surprise was necessary to get people moving and thinking new ideas.

00:51:11

We deliberately started a very large psychological scientific experiment to see what would happen if we could somehow get

00:51:14

two or three million Americans to start activating their brains

00:51:19

to learn the concept of multiple reality.

00:51:24

And that’s all we’re talking about tonight, is the concept of multiple reality. And that’s all we’re talking about tonight,

00:51:26

is the concept of multiple reality.

00:51:28

That we’ve been trained over the centuries

00:51:31

to believe that there’s one reality,

00:51:34

the reality that you were born into.

00:51:36

So the concept of multiple reality

00:51:38

was a concept whose time had come in the 1960s.

00:51:40

It goes back to Einstein with his theory of relativity

00:51:43

and the multiplicity of positions and perceptions of the observer.

00:51:47

It was connected with Heisenberg and philosophy.

00:51:49

He said in Determinacy that you’re always studying the experiment that you set up yourself.

00:51:55

As I said to this young man just a minute ago, what has happened in science is since the 1960s,

00:52:02

several million young Americans have learned how to change their brains,

00:52:06

to open up their brains, to get some access to the multiple reality potentialities of their own nervous systems.

00:52:13

Now, what has happened is that in every single science, a revolution has taken place,

00:52:19

which all has to do with two concepts.

00:52:22

One, multiple reality, and two, that everything is moving,

00:52:26

evolving, and changing. And the third one, too, that scientific reality is exactly what

00:52:32

we define scientific reality to be. In other words, it all comes back to the individual

00:52:37

with the nervous system deciding how to use your brain to study the world as you see it. Now, as I said before, the theory of entropy,

00:52:48

which is the second law of thermodynamics, was a very pessimistic notion. It said that

00:52:53

the whole universe was wearing down like a clock, that God was a clockmaker, or God was

00:52:58

a wonderful Mercedes-Benz mechanic. But even the German mechanics can’t make a perfect machine so that the universe was wearing out.

00:53:08

Now this is a classical Newtonian mechanical theory.

00:53:13

As I pointed out, the theories of Ilya Prigogine,

00:53:17

called dissociative…

00:53:18

I’m sure some of you have heard about it.

00:53:22

They’re demonstrating with statistics and with scientific

00:53:27

experimental evidence that energy reconstitutes itself at a higher level, so instead of the

00:53:33

universe wearing down, it’s not. The universe is evolving to higher levels of intelligence,

00:53:39

and as we evolve as intelligent people, we’ll get to understand this better. Now another law that has been repealed

00:53:45

in the last 15 or 20 years

00:53:47

is a law which has totally trapped

00:53:52

and made pessimistic human situation.

00:53:55

It’s the law of gravity.

00:53:58

There’s one thing, you know,

00:53:59

whatever goes up must come down.

00:54:01

Bullshit.

00:54:09

Or a sensible person is one that has their foot on the ground, right?

00:54:20

Well, our astronauts, our space scientists, our space philosophers, people like Gerard O’Neill have repealed the law of gravity. Our species, through goodwill, harmonious cooperation,

00:54:27

and the incredible application of scientific intelligence,

00:54:29

has taken our species off the planet,

00:54:31

so we are no longer a planet-trapped species.

00:54:34

The Russians have permanent space bases there,

00:54:36

and people say to me,

00:54:37

come on, Timothy, you’re hallucinating,

00:54:39

you know, it’s not going to happen in our lifetime.

00:54:41

It has already happened.

00:54:42

The Russians have permanent bases there.

00:54:44

It’s a scandal, it’s a disgrace. The Russians have permanent bases there. It’s

00:54:45

a scandal, it’s a disgrace that since the Nixon administration, the courage, the vigor,

00:54:50

the vision of America, which is to move to the next frontier, to find new sources of

00:54:54

energy, to find new sources of raw materials, to find new visions and hope, to establish

00:54:59

new ecological niches where we can try new social and psychological experiments of how we can live. That’s been

00:55:05

blocked by the pessimistic, menopausal, World War II, Protestant ethic, predestinarian,

00:55:12

Calvinist notions that, you know, as Gordon Liddy would say, the world is a bad neighborhood.

00:55:19

Arm yourself. Our country is run by men who are preaching fear, pessimism. There are simply

00:55:27

two problems that are facing our species. And I say simple, there are two very simple

00:55:31

problems. Problem number one is that there’s a decreasing amount of energy, raw materials,

00:55:39

space, land, and hope. Watch the real estate prices, you know, watch the gas prices, all due to shortage, shortage, shortage.

00:55:47

Totally predictable because we are running out of energy and land on this planet. But the obvious solution to that,

00:55:54

DNA’s solution always is migrate. The termites figured that out a hundred million years ago. Termite hive, when it’s used up most of the energy there, they send out wing creatures.

00:56:09

And the interesting thing about termites is they’re basically neutral or sexless, but the wing creatures are beautiful, they’re enormous, they fly high, they fly away from

00:56:16

the old nest, they mate, and they start essentially a space colony to keep the thing going.

00:56:22

If the insects can do it, the domesticated primates

00:56:25

like ourselves can do it. So the law of gravity has been repealed. I don’t have to tell you that

00:56:31

another byproduct of the consciousness revolution of the 1960s was the incredible development of

00:56:38

computer science. Computers are to the 80s what acid was to the 60s. Video games.

00:56:47

The fact, you want to know a wonderful statistic?

00:56:49

More money is spent by teenage kids on arcade video games per year.

00:56:53

Between six and eight billion dollars

00:56:55

is spent by kids on arcade space games

00:56:58

than is spent by NASA.

00:57:00

Now isn’t that wonderful?

00:57:03

At the one level it proves how stupid those dinosaurs are, you know.

00:57:08

And on the other hand, what are these 8 million kids going to do

00:57:11

when instead of quarters, they’re running our taxes?

00:57:14

Now, I said there were two problems facing our species.

00:57:17

One was a shortage of land, of raw materials, of energy, of hope, of vision,

00:57:23

of new ideas, of new ecological niches. The

00:57:26

other problem is this. There’s an increasing number of pissed off, dissatisfied people.

00:57:34

Now you put those two problems together and you see that you’re going to get more Gaddafis,

00:57:38

you’re going to get more terrorists, blah, blah, blah. The answer to both of these problems

00:57:43

is very simple. We have to move into space

00:57:45

and those of us that are involved

00:57:47

in the space movement now

00:57:48

to tell you frankly

00:57:49

and I’m sure most of you in this room

00:57:50

understand it

00:57:51

we think of people

00:57:52

that don’t understand

00:57:53

that the next movement

00:57:54

the next goal of our species

00:57:57

is space

00:57:57

we think of people

00:57:58

that don’t understand

00:57:59

as being like

00:57:59

bleeding the flat earth or something

00:58:01

we have reached the escape velocity

00:58:04

I love that word, escape velocity.

00:58:07

I spent almost four years in prison

00:58:09

during the Nixon administration,

00:58:10

and I’m rather proud of that.

00:58:13

I was considered to be a very dangerous prisoner.

00:58:16

When I was moved from prison to prison,

00:58:18

they would always put me in a holding cell.

00:58:20

They moved me from prison to prison all the time

00:58:22

because they considered me a troublemaker,

00:58:23

and I couldn’t argue with that

00:58:25

every time they’d move me into a new prison

00:58:27

they’d put me in what’s called a holding cell

00:58:28

and they’d look over my folder

00:58:30

a prisoner’s folder is called a jacket

00:58:32

on the cover of my jacket

00:58:33

in big red letters were the words

00:58:35

ESCAPE RISK

00:58:37

I’m very proud of that

00:58:38

because I think we should all tattoo that on our foreheads

00:58:42

we should all be ESCAPE RISK

00:58:43

because

00:58:44

all of us in this room belong to,

00:58:48

we’re the seed descendants of women and men in the past

00:58:51

that were smart enough to leave the old world

00:58:54

and to come over to this new frontier where there was more freedom,

00:58:57

more opportunity for individuals, more opportunity for imagination,

00:59:00

more opportunity for novelty, for experimentation,

00:59:03

which is the key to the American tradition. So what I’m doing as I move around the country these days is I’m

00:59:14

cheerleading for science. The only way that’s going to get us out of the particular situation

00:59:18

we’re in is the application of human intelligence in the form of the scientific method. Now, I represent what I’m

00:59:26

preaching and teaching and cheering for and telling jokes about and, you know, making a fool of myself

00:59:32

in public about is I’m pushing the concept of scientific humanism. A humanist is someone who,

00:59:38

number one, who believes, we call it scientific paganism. A humanist or a pagan is someone who

00:59:43

believes in life. A humanist or a pagan is someone who believes in being open-minded,

00:59:48

who believes in diversity, plurality.

00:59:50

A humanist is someone who believes in being a little goofy,

00:59:53

because life is goofy.

00:59:55

And the humanist is someone,

00:59:58

or the opposite of a humanist,

00:59:59

is someone who believes in the past,

01:00:01

who believes it was all written down 2,000, 4,000 years ago

01:00:03

by some shepherd, neo-macho king god, and there’s no reason to think

01:00:10

because it was all settled back in those days.

01:00:13

The baby boom is going to take over.

01:00:16

We’re into what Toffler calls the third wave of the communication, information,

01:00:20

intelligence are the keys now instead of control.

01:00:23

Competition is out, collaboration. The bumper sticker for the year is intelligence is the ultimate now, instead of control. Competition is out, collaboration.

01:00:26

The bumper sticker for the year is intelligence is the ultimate aphrodisiac.

01:00:31

Or aphrodisiac is the ultimate intelligence.

01:00:36

Ultimate is the intelligent aphrodisiac.

01:00:39

You can play it any way you want, because we’re Einstein in here.

01:00:43

But everything I try to do tonight and I continue to do

01:00:46

in my running around the country

01:00:47

is number one, optimism.

01:00:50

We are being sold a bill of goods.

01:00:52

We’re being sold by fear

01:00:53

because the jailed Protestant people

01:00:55

who believe in greed,

01:00:57

the people that are running the country,

01:00:59

the politicians and the religious leaders,

01:01:02

the politicians say,

01:01:04

vote for me and I’ll get us

01:01:07

bigger share of the pot than the poor jerks.

01:01:09

Now for Republicans we want to take it from the poor

01:01:11

and for poor people like you and I

01:01:14

we want to take it from the rich

01:01:15

but it’s still dividing up a pot

01:01:16

that’s getting smaller and smaller.

01:01:18

The religious people are more honest.

01:01:20

They say,

01:01:21

get on your knees and pray.

01:01:25

Which under the circumstances working from the Bible is their manual of evolution.

01:01:29

That’s about all you can do.

01:01:31

So what I’m doing in every apostle is to make fun of the orthodox established way,

01:01:37

to encourage people to laugh at anyone that tries to, see, it’s fear.

01:01:41

It’s always fear.

01:01:42

I have many debates with G. Gordon Liddy and he’s preaching fear.

01:01:45

He’s saying,

01:01:46

yes, boy,

01:01:47

the situation is

01:01:49

if you’re a little old lady

01:01:51

and you want to walk down

01:01:51

the streets of any

01:01:52

big American city

01:01:53

at three o’clock

01:01:54

in the morning,

01:01:55

you’re in trouble.

01:01:57

But if you’re a linebacker

01:01:58

from the 49ers

01:01:59

and you’ve got a pistol

01:02:01

in one hand

01:02:01

and an automatic weapon

01:02:03

in the other, baby,

01:02:04

and a baseball bat here,

01:02:05

and no one’s going to fuck with you.

01:02:06

Now that, I mean, that’s the Reagan foreign policy.

01:02:11

We’re simply beyond that as a species.

01:02:14

And the thing is that nobody’s saying these things in public.

01:02:18

It’s only in little gatherings like this.

01:02:19

You’re not going to read what I’m saying.

01:02:21

The scientists know about it.

01:02:22

If you know how to read,

01:02:24

you’ll find it in Omni magazine, Scientific American. That’s a little conservative, isn’t it? You’ll

01:02:27

find computer people seeing it. The kids see it. God, the average six or seven or eight

01:02:32

year old kid, as we were saying last night, can beat an adult at video games, knows more

01:02:37

about computers. The hope is in evolution and young people. And of course, people say

01:02:44

to me, well, why is there such

01:02:46

an anti-drug movement? Well, I’ll tell you why there’s an anti-drug movement. Because

01:02:49

what drugs mean to me, and I don’t care whether anyone takes drugs or not. Matter of fact,

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the fewer drugs you take, the more there are for us. And I don’t get any money by selling

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or getting people to take drugs. Now, I get in trouble by doing it. But the point about drugs is why people, why the established powers don’t like drugs.

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It’s one thing that all the established powers, every religion is against drugs.

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There’s one thing that the communists agree with the capitalists are, it’s against drugs. When I was on the run in

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exile, I was in Algeria, I was a socialist. The communists at one point asked me to come and teach

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them how to brainwash. The Swiss wanted me to come, so forth. But the one thing they said

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is, please don’t talk about drugs to our young people, because they know that if

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you don’t, one thing that drugs give you, personal options to change your own mind,

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a way of rewarding yourself, of teaching yourself, of activating yourself, of changing yourself.

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And if there’s one thing that the power holders do not want you to do as an individual, is to change your own mind and learn how to reward yourself

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and reward the close group of friends that you want to evolve with personally.

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So I’ve tried this somewhere.

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I know that it’s been confusing tonight.

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When I talk to a group of people like this, there are 200 people,

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200 different nervous systems, 200 different species, 200 different levels of evolution.

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There have been some 23rd people levitating up there. There’s a bunch of unicellular amoebas floating

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and sucking over there. I mean, we’ve got every kind of brain in the world in this room.

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This is one of the most diverse audiences I’ve ever been in front of. I honor you for

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that. Thank you for coming. And let’s meet again in about a year okay you’re listening to the psychedelic salon

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where people are changing their lives

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one thought at a time

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so what do you think

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did Nixon get it right about Timothy Leary

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being the most dangerous man in America?

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I guess it depends upon your point of view, but as silly as that sounds right now, I can assure you that a lot of people agreed with Nixon back then.

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And while it seems to me that Timothy’s optimism about the baby boomer generation changing the direction of politics in the states, well, that sure was a pipe dream, wasn’t it?

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From where I sit, it looks like the politicians are still first and foremost politicians,

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which means that power is what they thrive on,

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and they’ll tell us any lie we want to hear as long as they can stay in power.

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So, while I may not be completely in tune with Dr. Leary about space migration and a couple of other things,

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I do agree with most of his political comments, and my guess is that you probably do too.

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But before I get going off on politics, I’d rather take things in a more positive direction,

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and that is in the direction of Ireland, which is also the direction that Bruce Dahmer will be heading in

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as he hears this podcast somewhere over the Atlantic and on his way to Europe.

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So, hi Bruce, how’s the trip going?

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Now, the reason I’m mentioning Bruce’s trip is that if you happen to live on or near the

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Emerald Isle, there will be an opportunity to hear Bruce Dahmer further develop his theme

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of the Great Crescendo from our Salon Podcasts number 259 and 260. Thank you. is going to be held on Thursday, July 14, 2011 at 7 p.m.

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and will be held at the Cultivate Center,

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17 Andrew Street in Dublin.

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And let me just read part of the announcement

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about this event.

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Beyond 2012,

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through the great crescendo

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to an emerald and azure civilization

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with Bruce Dahmer and Galen Brand.

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Galen, by the way, is Bruce’s wife, and she’ll be performing at that event as well,

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as participating with Bruce.

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And here’s what the announcement says.

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A crescendo is when all instruments and voices increase in volume

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in the final moments of a great symphony.

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In this extraordinary period of history, humanity is caught up in its own great crescendo,

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with many voices rising in ever-increasing intensity.

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Some of these voices are discordant, despairing, extreme, and apocalyptic.

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Others announce great technological and scientific discoveries,

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and yet others sing out in hope and exuberant creativity.

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The civilization we end up with, beyond the climactic moments of the great crescendo,

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is going to be characterized by the tone set by the strongest and most moving voices.

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The year 2012 has drawn forth many of these voices and is described by some in apocalyptic

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terms, but by others as a powerful year of transcendence toward new beginnings.

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terms, but by others as a powerful year of transcendence toward new beginnings.

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The late Terence McKenna was a leading advocate of a 2012 apocalyptic singularity, and in the 1990s he and Bruce Dahmer engaged in explorations and friendly debate on these questions.

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Both Bruce and Terence agreed that the future will be stranger than we can suppose.

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But Bruce has since developed a forward-looking vision

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sourced in the sweep of the evolution

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of the cosmos of where life and

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humanity could be headed, toward

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an emerald and azure civilization.

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And

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yes, Bruce has promised

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to record that talk for us to hear in the

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salon later this year.

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But if you live in or near Dublin,

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I hope that you’ll be able to stop by and

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meet Bruce and Galen and maybe even take them out for a pint of Guinness at Grogan’s afterwards.

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That being my favorite pub in Dublin. And did I happen to mention that I hold dual American and

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Irish citizenship? One of my most precious possessions is my EU passport with that little

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golden harp on it. There have definitely been times when I thought of it as my get out of jail Thank you. may or may not have led us to where we are sharing this moment together, you can read a few of them in my novel, The Genesis Generation,

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which is available in Kindle and other e-book formats,

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as well as a pay-what-you-can audio book read by me.

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And you can find out all about that at genesisgeneration.us.

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And for now, this is Lorenzo, signing off from Cyberdelic Space.

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Be well, my friends.