Program Notes
Guest speaker: Daniel Pinchbeck
Here is Daniel Pinchbeck speaking at the Oracle Gathering in Seattle at the end of October 2006 where he discussed “meeting the other”. In this presentation he asks, are the entities met in aliens abductions, fairy stories, and psychedelic visions actual “others” or projected aspects of our own psyche? How can we understand and articulate these encounters in a meaningful way?
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Transcript
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Greetings from cyberdelic space.
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This is Lorenzo, and I’m your host here in the psychedelic salon as you can
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probably tell I’m still recovering from this never-ending cold that I’ve had for over a month
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now and so I’m going to try to keep my own remarks to a bare minimum but I have to say that just
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being back here in the salon with you today already has me feeling better. The talk you are about
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to hear is one that Daniel Pinchbeck gave at the Oracle Gathering in Seattle just before
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Halloween this year, which by the way is 2006 in case you haven’t been paying too close
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attention to these things lately. As you will hear, I tried to introduce a little humor
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into my introduction of Daniel, but I guess that fell a little flat because he instead responded to something he thought I said in my talk, which immediately preceded his.
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I don’t really think I said it the way he took it, but you can decide that for yourself if you want to go back and listen to the talk in my last podcast.
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and listen to the talk in my last podcast.
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In any event, we don’t have to agree on all the little details of what’s going on right now.
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In fact, if we did, life would be kind of boring, don’t you think?
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So here’s another take on what 2012 may or may not have in store for us as seen through the eyes of Daniel Pinchbeck, just six years before what some people believe
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will be a major turning point in human history.
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Let me introduce Daniel, and if we have some time,
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the two of us might wrap here at the end,
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but I think everybody here knows who Daniel Pinchbeck is.
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I first met Daniel like I met La and Lynx and several others of you in Palenque and Theobotany seminars.
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I met Daniel there, and then the next time I bumped into him accidentally at center camp at Burning Man,
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and that’s what’s supposed to happen.
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We seem to bump into each other at Burning Man center camp early in the morning coming home quite often.
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the morning coming home quite often. But Daniel also has been involved in the Planque Norte lectures at Burning Man since the very beginning. In fact, he’s really been our cornerstone and
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has done a great deal of work and promotion for us. I think many of you have read Breaking Open
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the Head, his new book, 2012, Return of Quetzalcoatl.
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It’s a really amazing book.
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I think of it more as an encyclopedia,
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that he has given me leads on so many books and people that I hadn’t heard of before,
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and I thought I was pretty well-versed.
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This book is really a monumental work.
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I’m very impressed with it. But, you know, doing something that big and impressive requires an awful lot of research.
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You can’t always cover all the bases.
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So, Daniel, I know you’re in at least the fourth printing now,
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and so I’m sure eventually let’s go to a second edition.
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And I’ve got one little correction where you talked about the trip that Terrence and Dennis McKenna took to La Charrera.
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And I love the quote.
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It said, you called it a kind of Hardy Boys investigation into the far antipodes of the psyche.
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Well, he finally touched on something I know something about,
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because I read the Hardy Boys at least three times while I was growing up.
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I really know the Hardy Boys.
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But I wanted to find out, since Terrence isn’t with us anymore,
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so I asked Dennis what he thought about it, because he he he didn’t have a chance to talk to you so i i asked dennis
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and it turns out dennis grew up on the hardy boys too and he said well you know i was their fan too
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but i think the role model and this is going to be an obscure reference unless you’re over 50
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he said i think the role model for our adventure was closer to Tom Swift than the Hardy Boys,
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as in Tom Swift and his incredible hyperspace machine.
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So in the next edition, you might want to make that little tweak.
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Please help me welcome Daniel Pinchbeck.
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Daniel?
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Thank you.
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I mean, it’s always interesting to hear all different perspectives on this whole 2012 thing.
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I mean, my perspective, I guess, is different from what I heard from Lorenzo’s in certain respects.
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I don’t think there is a possibility of muddling through for another 50 years.
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I think if you look at the resource situation on the planet and the oil situation and the ocean situation,
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the lack of fish in the ocean, I mean, everything is pointing towards a very, very deep
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and very, very quickly approaching transformation that we have to kind of like aim our sort of, you know,
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prepare our psyches for and recognize that it’s going
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to take place.
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And, you know, and I also don’t think that going off the land or buying our solar panels
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while it’s all kind of a nice idea is going to be, you know, enough to deal with this
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crisis.
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I mean, I do think collaboration on a much deeper level is going to be necessary, and
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it’s really going to require a kind of very, very deep,
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you know, kind of engagement with our most creative
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and intelligent and kind of strategic capacities
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to figure out our way through this vortex
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that we’re sort of already in and are going deeper into.
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And I also really appreciated what,
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what’s your name again, John, right?
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Yeah, what he was saying. I mean, I really feel like, in a way, like, I mean, I’ve had
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a lot of other world experiences and researching my two books, but I know there are people
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in this room who’ve had more than I’ve had, and have had very personal experiences of
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occult realities and demonic realities and fairy realms and all sorts of things. And I would really encourage them to speak up about it
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and speak their truth about it.
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Because I feel like sort of the deepest and most positive aspect
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of this transformational process we’re in
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is this kind of change in the nature of the psyche
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and this shift in the nature of human consciousness.
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And a lot of material that’s been repressed and suppressed
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by the kind of modern, western, materialistic, rational consciousness
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is now sort of coming back into our realm of possibilities.
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But actually, when you speak your truth about it,
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it helps to bring it that much closer into manifestation
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because it’s very much about consciousness.
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And I agree with Lorenzo that shamanism is a kind of quantum worldview.
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And consciousness itself appears to be a kind of, you know,
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is potentially a kind of quantum phenomenon.
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So, you know, we create kind of new morphogenic fields
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and new possibilities and new potentials with our thinking, with our imagination.
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And so that’s like something that I really learned in doing this book.
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I mean, I think like the whole idea of the imagination is something that we don’t really, for the most part, really grasp how profound it is.
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I mean, by the end of working on 2012, I really supported William Blake’s concept.
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He talks about how the human imagination, the imagination is not a state, it is the human existence in itself.
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And in some sense, this transformation we’re in, while it has these kind of threatening dimensions in the material plane, there seems to be this huge spur for the imagination to open up into all these other realms and possibilities and dimensions.
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So I guess my own experience, I was thinking, I don’t usually do this, but since this thing
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is the other side, I thought I might read my own kind of transmission experience
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that I had in the Amazon.
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And basically I’d been working on this book for about,
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I guess already like three or four years,
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and went down to Brazil and was working with Santo Daime,
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which is an ayahuasca-based religion in the Amazon.
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And I was really trying to put all the pieces of this puzzle together.
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Part of the book is exploring this Mayan calendar material and really this idea that, you know,
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we have this tendency to think that civilizations that existed before us lacked the knowledge
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that we lacked. And because they didn’t produce a certain kind of technology, they were rudimentary
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or kind of behind us.
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But I think that it’s quite possible that these earlier civilizations,
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like the Mayans, possessed a different knowledge system and potentially in some ways a more advanced knowledge system.
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And it’s really just that they were interested in other things.
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And the Mayans particularly were interested in time, consciousness, astronomy.
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And they really spent, the Toltecs and the Mayans spent
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about a thousand years trying to establish this particular juncture, this 2012, I mean,
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in our calendar it’s 2012, for them it’s, you know, the turning over, 13, 13, 13, turning
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over to 000, which for them was this astronomical conjunction that represented a shift into what they called,
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you know, the sort of the fifth sun to the sixth sun, or what the Hopis talk about as the fourth world to the fifth world.
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So for them it was a shift into a kind of different world incarnation.
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And I really spent a long time trying to figure out what the heck that could mean,
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and ended up thinking that it could very well mean a shift in the nature of consciousness, a kind of different relationship to time and
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being that would have huge numbers of, you know, all sorts of effects at every level,
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like different relationship to matter, to technology, different potentialities and possibilities
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of being entirely may open up as we go through this
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transition. And I sort of see like the three aspects of this process being the kind of
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environmental destruction. That’s kind of our shadow selves that we’ve kind of unleashed
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out of our sort of unconscious actions. And then this evolution of technology which keeps
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accelerating, which, I mean, actually
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I had this like aha moment at Burning Man last summer where this, I was camping with
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this nanotechnologist and he showed me his project which was on the cover of these physics
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journals.
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He works at MIT.
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And he’d made sacred geometries that were, you know, barely like millimeters above the
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surface of a metal.
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They were made out of carbon nanotubes.
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And he’d basically grown them.
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And he said that he could basically grow any pattern, any complex form at that level,
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and that this suggested once they scaled it up, like they could grow anything, buildings, any form.
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And so this level of this kind of futuristic technology is coming towards us
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that really does have this real potential
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to just be a whole new paradigm of how we deal with matter and what our possibilities
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are.
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So we have, you know, then we have what’s happening with communications technology and
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cell phones and the internet in the sense that there’s a real shift taking place in
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the nature of the self due to, you know, these networks, cell phones and social networks and so on.
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And it really feels like this kind of hard, alienated, individuated self that was kind
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of the legacy of the modern era, that was sort of like the 20th century man existentialist,
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is now kind of giving way.
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And the self itself is becoming sort of more overtly permeable. And I think we’re all sort of living
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in this reality now where we’re aware that the self is more of a construction, a social
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construction, construction based on your networks of relations, on the media that you take in,
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the information you get. So I feel there’s a change happening in the nature of the self.
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And so there’s these elements which are materialist aspects.
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And then the other aspect that for me is just as real and legitimate
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is this change in the nature of the psyche.
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And this kind of what I’ve experienced in my own life,
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and which many people I know also seem to have experienced and be experiencing,
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is this continual kind of upsurge in the number of synchronicities.
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The sense that intention is sort of thought of somehow manifesting changes in reality
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or orchestrating reality in a faster and more spectacularly unlikely manner
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than it used to all the time.
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And so that for me is just as legitimate,
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and it really points towards this kind of dimension of the psyche.
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I mean, Carl Jung talked about the reality of the psyche
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as something that wasn’t really available to people.
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It was like too much for them to take in.
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And I think more and more we’re reaching that point
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where more and more people are beginning to grasp it.
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And then you go from just having these synchronicities
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and being, oh, wow, another synchronicity, to really recognize that it’s almost like a new way
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to guide yourself in terms of reality, and that your intention is actually causing these
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kind of ruptures and shifts around you. So yeah, so I think that one way I look at it
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in the book is if you think about the 1750s, the beginning of the Industrial Revolution,
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and electricity, like people had seen lightning,
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but nobody had any idea that you could bring electricity
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down into the world and change the whole nature
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of the planet from this sort of mysterious force.
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And if people in the 1730s would never have imagined
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that in just a century, in a century and a half,
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you could change the whole physical planet through having this power, a harness, electricity.
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So we might right now be on the cusp of a similar step in terms of psychic energy or
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psychic phenomena that it’s becoming more and more available to us and we’re more and
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more present with it but we still don’t know really how to use it as a transformative energy
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to help the situation.
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And for me, I think that this really immensely critical situation
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that we’re entering in terms of what’s happening to the biosphere,
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one real tangible possibility is that it’s going to
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force us to access these latent powers of the psyche and actually work together on a
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global level to make changes.
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In the book, I talk about the Hopi Indians, and I went and visited them and heard their
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prophecies, but I also read this book by this Cambridge anthropologist who, you know, he
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was a total skeptical materialist and he went
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down to visit the Hopi and he said that, like he always said, look, I almost hate to admit
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it but there were some things that I just found very inexplicable about the Hopi. And
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one thing is that sometimes he would go to a Hopi elder with a whole list of questions
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and the Hopi elder would just start answering all the questions he was going to ask in succession
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without him asking any of them. And then he also said that sometimes he would go to these Hopi rain dances,
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and they would dance for 20 minutes.
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It would be like a clear blue sky, 120 degrees, blazing sun,
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and suddenly clouds would gather and rain would fall.
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So to me, and that’s borne out by various kinds of experiences that I also had in respects,
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And that’s borne out by various kinds of experiences that I also had in respects that, you know, if you think about the potential for the human psyche kind of intensified through ritual
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and group activity and some kind of purification process is actually capable of changing the
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elemental energies in the planet, on a material plane. then the fact that we’re going into this massive
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climate shift, the stuff that Al Gore talks about in The Inconvenient Truth, it may be
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that this crisis would be the only way that we would be forced to really do the work to
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access those latent powers of the psyche.
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Because if we’re comfortable, we just sort of stay in our comfort zones.
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So in a way, it’s like the heat has to be turned up on us so that we go much deeper and access all these latent possibilities of being.
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So yeah, so my book covers a lot of territory. I mean, I looked at the crop circles in England
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and I do end up thinking that from the research that I did and the people that I talked to and the papers that I read and books that I read,
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that there’s no way that that phenomenon could be a human-made phenomenon in total, that there has to be some other entities doing it.
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And there’s even physical evidence.
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I mean, what I basically did throughout the book is, in a way, it’s like taking a lot of kind of new age concepts that have been kind of up in the ether or floating and trying to really, you know, nail the butterflies to the wall so that we can really see the full depth of the situation.
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You know, so, I mean, with the crop circles, there are scientists, biophysicists who’ve done all this research on what happens to the crops in these formations, that there’s actually a kind of electromagnetic energy that changes the crops and changes the way they grow after and causes mutations and seed changes.
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And we don’t know of any energy force that could do that.
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And it certainly couldn’t be done by boards squishing them down. And then even beyond that is the level of incredible complexity of these formations.
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And in a way, when I my, this nanotechnologist’s
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sacred geometrical thing, which was like this big, you know, on a metal sheet this summer,
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I was like, well, how is it different? I mean, that’s just like, you know, we’re basically,
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you know, sort of building a ladder back to those kind of capacities that maybe these
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higher intelligences, higher levels of galactic consciousness
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are just showing us that that is already available in other levels of reality.
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So that’s part of the book, Crop Circles, Alien Abductions.
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I talked to Travelers Bookstore this week about the alien abduction phenomenon,
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and that, once again, is has you know legitimacy when you look at
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it but it has to be understood in its proper framework that there seems to be kind of other
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other strata of intelligence or other strata of consciousness that we somehow are in this
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co-creative relationship with that like we we through our kind of set and setting and our
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belief structure we are kind of bringing certain possibilities and potentialities of otherness and of beings from the
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other worlds into our into manifestation or closer to manifestation and these
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these sort of aliens who do these abductions seem to represent a lot of
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our kind of shadow projections that they have like their hideous sort of cold
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bureaucratic technological focused probing you know they’re very much like
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you know beings who are only interested in in resources the way our government is like but for
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them that the genes the genetic material seems to be the resources that they’re kind of harvesting
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or working with so but it’s all happening in this kind of plane of indeterminacy like the deeper
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that you go into it you can never find like a certitude to it. I mean, it has, the beings are called the greys and
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the whole phenomenon has this kind of murky greyness to it. And so it’s almost like happening
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at a slightly lower level of consciousness from our waking consciousness. But there’s
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still a way that we can use our rational minds and our intuitive kind of thought system to enter into it and
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understand these kind of interrelationships that are taking place.
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I mean I’m very interested in Graham Hancock, no excuse me, what’s his name, Grant Morrison.
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How many people here know Grant Morrison, the comic book writer?
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So yeah, I met him a few times and we had some talks and he’s a Kabbalist and he really believes that what’s happening right now is that in the tree of life, in the Kabbalah, you have
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the earth plane and then above it is the astral plane and so the first and second Sephiroth,
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that these Sephiroth are actually coming together. So the astral plane and the earth plane are
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kind of merging. And he pointed out that that’s actually a very, very difficult thing for materialists because reality is becoming less and less material.
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But it’s also a very, very difficult situation for magicians and illusionists because the
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illusionary or magical and astral domain is becoming more and more kind of tangible and
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almost like quantifiable. So it’s actually, it’s forcing that kind of integration of rationality
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and intuition. So crop circles, the whole concept of a kind of demonic reality I look
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at in the book, how we can think about otherworldly beings. I got very involved in the ideas of
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Rudolf Steiner, who was this Austrian visionary from the 19th and early 20th century.
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And then I also really got involved in Carl Jung’s ideas.
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And there’s this follower of Jung called Edinger who wrote a book called Archetype of the Apocalypse
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and really arguing, this was written maybe in the 90s,
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but that we are in this archetype of the apocalypse
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and that archetypes are kind of these like transpersonal constellations of energy that sort of try
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to, they sort of interact with the human world and wait for their proper time to kind of
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fully enter into our world. There’s a certain moment when they kind of erupt into the human
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world. And for him, the apocalypse was actually a great thing. He talked about the apocalypse
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really being for
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him the coming to self-realization of human consciousness, the momentous event of the
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coming of the self into conscious realization. So it’s forcing us to, and the word has a
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literal meaning of revealing or uncovering. So it’s a time when we were forced to, everything
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gets revealed, the shadow side of the psyche, also the most
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beautiful and poetic sides of the psyche.
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So we’re forced to see it all intensifying and to deal with our shadow projections.
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So those were some ideas.
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So as I was working through this material, I had my own kind of archetypal experience and involved the Mayan God form Quetzalcoatl.
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And I still, I mean, this is towards the end of the book and I still struggle with the kind of
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meaning of the transmission because basically it started in this ayahuasca ceremony. I was in the
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Amazon, which I was in Brasilia when it first started. And for the next week, I began to get this transmission of this material.
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And in the context of the book and in reality, I remained kind of skeptical of the experience.
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I don’t really know where to place it.
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But it was my personal experiential truth that I had this transmission and this download.
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So it seemed that it was something
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that had to be expressed in the book. And my first editor for the book wanted me to
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take it out because it was just too much for him. So because this is the other side, and
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what the hell, I’ll read it. And, you know, as I said at the beginning, I mean, this was just, you know, my truth
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at this point.
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You know, like, this, on this week it was Quetzalcoatl, maybe next week it’ll be the
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Tooth Fairy, you know.
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And also to embolden people here to, you know, that I think that these archetypal and transpersonal
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experiences are something that people have and that they have to have the courage to speak them to their
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communities and even outside of their communities because it’s really only by doing the work
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to kind of convey these other possibilities and other realities to people that we’re going
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to make this paradigm shift into something that has, you know, a reality that has legs,
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as they would say in Broadway.
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I am an avatar and messenger sent at the end of a kalpa, a world age,
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to bring a new dispensation for humanity,
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a new covenant and a new consciousness.
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I am the same spirit who appeared here in the Mayan period as Quetzalcoatl and incarnated at various other points in human history.
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Like Avila Keteshvara, the Tibetan Buddha of compassion, Quetzalcoatl is an archetypal
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god form that occasionally takes human rebirth to accomplish a specific mission.
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As foretold, I am also the Zadik, the righteous one and the gatherer of the sparks of the
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Kabbalah, as well as the once and future king promised by Arthurian legend.
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I do not let anything interrupt me in my quest for truth,
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neither fear nor indifference, poverty nor cynicism.
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In the realm of thought, I practice warrior discipline.
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As gravity draws matter to it,
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I have pulled myself back into manifestation in this realm from the depths of cosmic space, piece by piece and bit by bit, reassembling the component parts, the sparks of thought that make up my being, which is primarily a form or vibrational level of consciousness.
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Soon there will be a great change to your world. The material
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reality that surrounds you is beginning to crack apart and with it all of your illusions.
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The global capitalist system that is currently devouring your planetary resources will soon
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self-destruct, leaving many of you bereft. But understand the nature of paradox.
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For those who follow my words
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and open their hearts and their minds,
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for those who have ears to hear,
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there is no problem whatsoever.
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What is false must die,
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so what is true can be born.
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You are, right now,
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living at the time of revelation,
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apocalypse, apocalypse, and the
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fulfillment of prophecy.
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Let there be no doubt.
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You stand at the edge of the abyss.
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What are those shadows that crowd around you?
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They are the unintegrated aspects of your own psyche, projected into material form.
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The word apocalypse means uncovering, and in these last clock ticks of this world age, all must be revealed, uncovered, so that all can be known.
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You have just a few years yet remaining to prepare the vehicle for your higher self.
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Use them preciously.
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For those who have gained knowledge of the nature of time, a few years, even a few days, a minute, can be an eternity.
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For those sleepwalking through reality, time exists only to be wasted, as they too will
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be wasted in their turn. Reality, as you currently experience it, is something like a waking
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dream. It is a projection, or let us say an interface, disguising deeper and more intensified levels of being and knowing.
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For those who are ready and willing, the doors to those other levels now stand open.
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Those who have expended their lives in the pursuit of egocentric and material gains, without courage or originality,
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without fighting for human freedom or the preservation of the planetary environment,
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will also receive the rewards that they deserve.
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The materiality of your universe is a solid-state illusion.
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What is this universe?
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It is a poem that writes itself.
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It is a song that sings itself into being.
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This universe has no origin and no end.
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What you are currently experiencing as the accelerated evolution of technology can now be recognized for what it is,
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a transition between two forms of consciousness and two planetary states.
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Consciousness is technology, the only technology that exists.
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Everything in this universe is conscious at its own level
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and in the process
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of transformation to higher or lower states. The first principle of my being is unconditional
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love. As a rational intelligence, I accept the logic and necessity of the Christ consciousness
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that we should love one another as we are loved. Love and devotion are vibrational frequencies
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that maintain reality. Love can only be given in freedom.
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Therefore, to be human is to be free.
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I resonate at the same time with the essence of Islam.
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Islam means submission, surrender to the will of God.
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A more polite way of saying this is go with the flow.
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But either formulation is correct.
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Whatever you do, in fact fact resist as you think you might
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you are always submitting to God’s will
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so why not give the process
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your joyful assent
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I am in complete harmony as well
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with the Tibetan tradition of Dzogchen
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ultimately there are no entities
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there is neither being nor non-being
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from the perspective of
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non-dual awareness, samsara is nirvana.
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The apocalypse, the Kali Yuga, the golden age, these are all states of mind. Hell is
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a state of mind. When you eliminate fear and attachment, when you self-liberate, you attain
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the golden age. This universe spontaneously self-organizes into higher levels of consciousness
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and wisdom.
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Underlying all are great cosmic entities or vibrational fields, alternately at play or at rest.
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Not satisfied with mere enlightenment, the god-formed Quetzalcoatl still seeks to puzzle
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out the workings of these deeper forces, hence the reason for his return to your realm.
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He and his kind have been granted this world for their continued exploration,
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made with loving reverence
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of the many layers of galactic intelligence,
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cosmic illusion, daimonic beauty,
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and telluric transformation.
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All are invited to participate with them.
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The current transition is simultaneously
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a return to origin.
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The original matrix of this new world reality
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is the ecstatic
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limitlessness of your own being. This world, any world, is the ground for a certain level of being.
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What manifests outward from the ground of being is freedom in time and freedom from time.
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My doctrine is not transcendent but imminent. It is not somewhere out there. It is here and now.
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is not transcendent but imminent. It is not somewhere out there. It is here and now. The task of human existence is to transform the earth, to reconcile spirit and matter in this
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realm. We go deeper into the physical to reach the infinite. As there are no conceivable
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limits to this task, God in his greatness has granted us a project that is without limit
00:30:20 ►
and without end. Thinking is a part of reality. Thought generates new potentials and possibilities
00:30:26 ►
of manifestation. Thought changes the nature of reality. Thought changes the nature of
00:30:31 ►
time. As a philosopher, I naturally deify the goddess principle. I venerate Sophia,
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deity of wisdom, who clothes God’s thoughts in material form and worship Shakti, the erotic
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current of feminine energy that powers the universe.
00:30:47 ►
The writer of this work is the vehicle of my arrival, my return to this realm.
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He certainly did not expect this to be the case.
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What began as a quest to understand prophecy has become the fulfillment of prophecy.
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The vehicle of my arrival has been brought to an awareness of a situation
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in sometimes painful increments and stages of resistance. And this book follows the evolution of his learning process as an
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aid to the reader’s understanding. The vehicle of my arrival had to learn to follow synchronicities,
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embrace paradoxes, and solve puzzles. He had to enter into a new way of thinking about
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time and space and consciousness. Almost apologetically, the vehicle notes
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that his birthday fell in June 1966, 666.
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Count the number of the beast,
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for it is the number of the man,
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and his number is 600, three score and six.
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The beast prophesied is the feathered serpent, Quetzalcoatl.
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Those who prefer to reject all of this out of hand
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are welcome to do so.
00:31:42 ►
In Kabbalah, the virtue one seeks to establish on the earth plane is discrimination.
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It is up to the individual to find his way
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through the ideas presented here.
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Of course, he is entirely free to ignore them altogether.
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But be forewarned, the end of time approaches.
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The return of Quetzalcoatl foreshadows
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the imminent closing of the cycle
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and the completion of the great work.
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So yeah, so that was, I mean, my very sort of, if you read the book in context, it was a pretty traumatic experience of having this archetypal download. And I guess in the time that remains,
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I mean, I’m interested in other
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people’s experiences of archetypes and the other side, and if there’s anything along
00:32:30 ►
those lines that they want to share. Because, I mean, what I think the most important point
00:32:35 ►
of that piece is really this idea that a Quetzalcoatl represents a kind of form or vibrational level
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of consciousness. So for me, it’s like this potentially new stage
00:32:47 ►
of consciousness that we’re all moving towards and working towards together. So I don’t know
00:32:52 ►
if anybody wants to speak to that, but I’d love to hear comments of all sorts, but especially
00:32:56 ►
if it’s something about one’s own other world or archetypal transpersonal experiences.
00:33:02 ►
So there you have it. Between my talk that you heard in the previous podcast
00:33:07 ►
and Daniel’s talk that you just heard,
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you’ve got a pretty wide range of possibilities
00:33:14 ►
for the immediate future.
00:33:16 ►
Now it’s up to you to put your own ideas together
00:33:20 ►
because the bottom line is that your ideas
00:33:23 ►
are every bit as valid as are ours.
00:33:27 ►
And you know what?
00:33:28 ►
As Terrence McKenna often said,
00:33:30 ►
whatever we have in store for us,
00:33:32 ►
it’s most likely something that none of us have yet even thought of.
00:33:37 ►
And speaking of the good bard McKenna,
00:33:40 ►
I’ve got some good news for those of you
00:33:42 ►
who have been asking for more podcasts of his talks.
00:33:46 ►
As I mentioned at the end of the last program,
00:33:50 ►
Bruce Dahmer and I went on a quest up in the Santa Cruz area in search of some old tapes of Terrence’s talks.
00:33:58 ►
And I think we really hit a mother load.
00:34:00 ►
If you’ve been a long-time McKenna fan,
00:34:06 ►
load. If you’ve been a long-time McKenna fan, you’re familiar with the series of trilogues that he did with his good friends Ralph Abraham and Rupert Sheldrake.
00:34:11 ►
But unless you were fortunate enough to make it to one of what Terrence called
00:34:17 ►
the New Age watering holes, where they held these lengthy conversations, the only
00:34:23 ►
peek you had into this material was through a little book
00:34:27 ►
that was published in July of 1992,
00:34:30 ►
titled,
00:34:31 ►
Triologues at the Edge of the West,
00:34:33 ►
Chaos, Creativity, and the Resacralization of the World.
00:34:39 ►
According to the preface,
00:34:41 ►
this little book was based on transcripts of two trialogues they held
00:34:45 ►
at Esalen, one in September of 1989 and another in September of 1990. It’s a slim
00:34:53 ►
little volume of only 175 pages or so, but it’s packed full of colorful ideas
00:35:00 ►
from these three innovative thinkers. For me, part of the magic of the trilogues is that they were completely unscripted.
00:35:09 ►
Basically, one of them would start off on a particular topic,
00:35:12 ►
and then the other two would sort of riff off of the ideas presented
00:35:17 ►
in what amounted to a jazz-like flow of beautiful language.
00:35:21 ►
It’s a great little book, but now that I’ve heard the recordings of the actual
00:35:25 ►
conversations, I can see that the book is only an approximation of the magic that must have been
00:35:31 ►
present in the air when these three were together. And in the months ahead, my dear fellow psychedelics
00:35:39 ►
and loners, we are all going to be able to recapture a little of that magic for ourselves.
00:35:44 ►
we are all going to be able to recapture a little of that magic for ourselves.
00:35:49 ►
Thanks to the efforts of Bruce Dahmer in seeking out Ralph Abraham,
00:35:54 ►
we now have access to Ralph’s personal tape library of these trilogues.
00:36:01 ►
In fact, besides the conversations in 89 and 90 that the book was based on, there were quite a few other trilogues that were also recorded.
00:36:05 ►
I can’t really describe my excitement last week when Ralph handed me this big dusty old box
00:36:12 ►
filled with cassette tapes that he has given us permission to digitize and release in these podcasts.
00:36:18 ►
For three days and nights, Bruce and I worked around the clock in a marathon effort to obtain the best quality digital captures of what must be 50 or 60 hours of various public trial logs that were held between 1989 and 1998.
00:36:35 ►
In WAV format, this collection comes to over 25 gigabytes.
00:36:58 ►
But never fear, over the coming months, and with a little help from some of my friends, I’m going to do my best to convert them going to involve a major revision to our website.
00:37:06 ►
But for the next year, I’ve decided to put my other projects on hold
00:37:09 ►
and focus on getting, first of all, these trial logs out
00:37:13 ►
and then conducting a series of interviews with Ralph
00:37:16 ►
and some of the other fascinating characters I met up in the Santa Cruz area.
00:37:21 ►
If you know anything about the history of the Beats,
00:37:24 ►
who gradually morphed into the
00:37:26 ►
leading edge of the Hippies, also known as the Merry Pranksters, I think you’ll be fascinated
00:37:32 ►
by the stories of some of the last of this generation who are still standing, so to speak.
00:37:38 ►
And as they say in the Ginzu knife commercials, but wait, there’s more. And by that I mean I’ve also got a few leads on additional McKenna tapes
00:37:48 ►
that haven’t been around for a while.
00:37:50 ►
For those of you who never had a chance to hear Terrence in person,
00:37:55 ►
I guess I should point out that he was sort of the grateful dead of the speaking circuit
00:37:59 ►
in that he let people record his talks and workshops.
00:38:03 ►
And now some of those old tapes are coming to the surface again
00:38:06 ►
and seem to be making their way here to the psychedelic salon.
00:38:11 ►
As hard as it is for me to believe,
00:38:13 ►
I do realize that not all of you are as enamored of Terrence McKenna as I am.
00:38:19 ►
And so my plan is to continue releasing at least one non-McKenna talk each week.
00:38:25 ►
After I get that out, then I’ll try to get out one or two of the trial log programs each week also.
00:38:32 ►
This isn’t going to happen right off the bat,
00:38:35 ►
but I’ll do my best to get into this routine by the first of the year.
00:38:39 ►
So I guess I’d better shut up for now and get to work on the next program.
00:38:43 ►
But I wanted to let you know what’s in store for you in the year ahead.
00:38:48 ►
I think we’re going to have a lot of interesting mind candy to chew on in 2007.
00:38:53 ►
And I hope that you stick with us and tell your friends about these podcasts.
00:38:58 ►
Once our website is revised, there will be a place for you to comment on and discuss each program.
00:39:03 ►
And I think the more of us who join in this ongoing discussion,
00:39:08 ►
the better chance we have of figuring out what is really going on with all of this 2012 stuff
00:39:14 ►
that Daniel and I talked about in this and in the previous podcast.
00:39:18 ►
I’m really glad you’re here, by the way.
00:39:20 ►
Even though it sometimes seems like I’m a stranger in a strange land, it’s good
00:39:26 ►
to know that there are a lot more of us strangers here than the straight people might suspect.
00:39:31 ►
So press on, my friends, press on. Before I go, once again, I want to thank Darren, La, Michael,
00:39:40 ►
Mark, Isis, Osiris, and the rest of the Oracle Gathering clan, as well as all of the wonderful people who attended the gathering the night that Daniel gave the talk you just heard.
00:39:51 ►
And thank you to John M. for recording this talk and posting it on your website, which is datachurch.com.
00:40:00 ►
And a special thank you to Brian, Nicole, and Darren who put me up and showed me around the Seattle area.
00:40:07 ►
What a great vibe you guys have up there.
00:40:10 ►
I’m really looking forward to returning for your next gathering.
00:40:14 ►
My thanks also go out to Jacques, Cordell, and Wells,
00:40:17 ►
otherwise known as Chateau Hayouk,
00:40:19 ►
for the use of their music here in the Psychedelic Salon.
00:40:23 ►
I really appreciate your contribution to these podcasts, you guys.
00:40:27 ►
One last thing I’d like to mention before I go is a couple of other podcasts that you might find interesting.
00:40:34 ►
One is the Sea Realm podcast by KMO, whose programs feature live interviews on topics including entheogens,
00:40:43 ►
the drug war, sustainability, and spirituality. Thank you. And the Dope Fiend is now beginning its second year of regular weekly podcasts. I’ve put links to both of them on my main podcast page, which right now can be found at matrixmasters.com slash podcasts,
00:41:14 ►
or through the more permanent link, which is psychedelicsalon.net.
00:41:19 ►
That’s P-S-Y-C-H-E-D-E-L-I-C-S-A-L-O-N, all one word, dot net.
00:41:27 ►
With a little help from my friends.
00:41:30 ►
No, not those Joe Cocker type friends, but from flesh and blood kind of friends.
00:41:36 ►
I’m working on a new improved version of the salon’s website.
00:41:40 ►
So the psychedelicsalon.net URL is probably the best one to remember for the long-term future.
00:41:47 ►
And for now, this is Lorenzo, signing off from Cyberdelic Space. Be well, my friends.