360 - Medicine Oracle & Spellbreaker

Program Notes

Guest speaker: Shonagh Home

[NOTE: All quotations are by Shonagh Home.]

“Plant medicines have long been the domain of women.”
“We are taught to escape in this culture, and so what these [psychedelic] medicines will do is they’ll take you to the heart of the truth of who you are and what needs to be addressed.”

“I think of myself as a spiritual warrior, and a spiritual warrior seeks to know, they are on a quest to know.”

“We still have an Inquisition, it’s a Pharmacratic Inquisition, it’s still around.”

“… they say we are wanting you to see and understand what’s going on, because when you see, you SEE, then it’s game over, right? [Which is] another reason why these medicines are illegal, because if you use them enough, in the right set and setting, then you start to get what’s going on, you start to really see.”

“We are here to remember the truth of what we are.”

“You are not the ‘story’ of what you think you are.”

Interview with Shonagh Home on Shamanic Freedom Radio
Shonagh Home Web Site

Love and Spirit Medicine
By Shonagh Home
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By Thomas B. Roberts

Transcript

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Thank you ever so much, Linda. However, if you are one of the wonderful people who made a donation,

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And it’s you and others like you who make it possible to keep presenting these programs

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without commercials or a Kickstarter-like campaign or anything like that. It isn’t the size of your Thank you. our guest speaker is Shauna Holm and you’re about to learn much more about this remarkable woman

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but I want to be very careful to not oversell the talk that we’re about to listen to

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because well I’m quite sure that it’s going to really capture your mind

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and get all kinds of new ideas churning for you

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and this is a talk that Shauna gave at the East West bookstore in Seattle

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just a few months ago

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and it was

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given as a part of a book tour for her latest book, Love and Spirit Medicine. But enough

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of me right now, let’s join Shona and learn more about her intriguing work and life.

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Thank you so much everyone for coming. I had a feeling that this talk tonight would draw more than a few people.

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So, my name is Shauna Holm, and I live in Redmond,

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and I have been practicing shaman for a number of years now,

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very reverently.

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It is my spiritual practice, And I teach as well. I’ve got a couple of

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who I don’t like to call them students, my medicine women here. And when I refer to them,

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hi, how are you? Welcome. I just started. When I refer to them as medicine women, I

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am not inferring that they do the plant medicine. I just call them medicine women because, of

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course, doing any kind of healing work is good medicine.

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It’s medicine.

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So when we are working shamanically or working with Reiki,

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which I actually think is very shamanic,

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we are working with very high medicine.

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I think everyone would agree.

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So I will tell you a little bit about how this book came about.

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I have a book I wrote previous to this called

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Ishal Wisdom, Seven Teachings from the Mayan Sacred Feminine.

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So I’ve done, I spent quite a bit of time in the Yucatan

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working with a beautiful shaman there,

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a real heart priest named Miguel Angel Vergara.

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And it was there that I received

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a Mayan baptism in these beautiful caves. And at that time, during the baptism, Ixchel,

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who is the Mayan mother goddess, came into me, and the shaman who was there, I experienced

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it, and he watched it happen. And then after that, I was receiving transmissions from her.

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And I came home and I understood now that I was to invite the women to my house

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and create ceremony for the women.

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And so that was, gosh, I think four years ago now.

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And so for four years, every month I have been hosting full moon ceremonies for women,

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and they’re not closed circles.

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I don’t believe in that.

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They’re open to anyone.

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It’s welcome to come.

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And we do something different every month.

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And so I host these ceremonies.

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And that has been my work.

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My work has been primarily with women, and it is opening to men now.

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That has been my work. My work has been primarily with women, and it is opening to men now.

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I am offering a class at the end of June for veterans with PTSD,

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and I’ll speak a little bit to that as well as I go into the plant medicine here. So what happened was my marriage to a lovely man.

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It was a blended family. It was highly challenging, and it was deteriorating

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rapidly.

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Blended families are very difficult for anyone who’s experienced that.

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And I was suffering from quite a depression as a result of what I was going through in

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that marriage.

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And it had been over for a couple of years, basically. We hadn’t really done anything. And I had tried ayahuasca, and I was complaining about the dearth of

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female ayahuasca leaders. And then lo and behold, I hear about a pair of women who are

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hosting an all-women’s ayahuasca ceremony. Don’t worry. And so I was very blessed to attend a ceremony

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of all women. And that was wonderful and powerful. And it came to me that this is not really

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my path. So at that time, I could feel the machine medicine calling me. And I’m 50, so this was a couple of years ago.

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This was relatively recent.

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And up to that time, I had never experimented

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or worked with any kind of plant medicine to that point.

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I don’t drink. I don’t smoke pot.

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I don’t do recreational anything.

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I just don’t.

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But I could feel this medicine calling me, and because

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of the years behind me of deep shamanic exploration and reverence for Mother Nature, who I call

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Mama, I could feel these calling me in such a way, you know, that I knew this was about my own expansion.

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And so I had a dear friend of mine,

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I’d been friends with him for a couple of years,

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and he had experience with these medicines.

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And so he lives out in the woods,

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and we planned for me to come and do this medicine with him.

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And he had been listening to Terence McKenna.

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So for those of you who don’t know,

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Terence McKenna wrote prolifically on plant medicines, ayahuasca, and mushrooms, and he

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died in 2000, which is a loss. He had an extensive understanding of botany, as well as mathematics

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and history and philosophy. He was an extraordinary person. And so he advocated doing the mushrooms

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in the dark, lying down, eyes closed, five grams. And so he spoke about the importance

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of going in there. And he was saying that what this world needs is consciousness.

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We’re in desperate need of consciousness,

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so to go in there and travel is like a psychonaut, essentially,

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and expand and learn, and then bring that back.

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So my first experience with this medicine was out in the forest,

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under the stars.

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It was a big dose, especially for someone who had never done it before.

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It was very intense.

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Towards the end of that experience, I was lying on the ground,

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and it came to me, just a thought in my head.

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I was adopted at five months old, and it came to me.

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I was like, yeah, it was a mistake.

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I always felt that.

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And in that moment,

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the earth spoke to me

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and said, my daughter,

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you were no mistake.

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And that elicited such emotion from me

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because in that moment,

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I had had direct connection with the sacred. The earth

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spoke to me. The mother spoke to me. And I experienced a very profound healing as a result

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of that. And so when I got home from that experience, I started researching because

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I’m a voracious researcher. And I looked up every book I could find on this kind of medicine.

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I wanted to learn, I wanted to understand what this was and how is this being used in the past.

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And I read over 40 books on entheogenic mushroom medicine.

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And all but two were written by men.

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And they are fantastic books.

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I recommend reading them. Many of them are very academic, and they have a tremendous amount to offer.

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And what was missing was, I felt, a woman’s personal telling of working with these medicines.

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Because do you know that plant medicines have long been the domain of women. They’ve long been the domain of women. Women understood the plants.

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They knew which plants would heal. They knew which plants were poison. And they

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sure as hell knew which plants would take you into ecstatic states. And so we

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have the Pythia of Delphi who worked with psychotropic substances

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and went into deep trance and brought

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through information. We have

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in the Norse traditions

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the Volva, V-O-L-V-A, and these

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were women who, they had song

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around them and they would go into altered states

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but they were also

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worked with psychotropic substances

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it’ll

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come to me that the one in particular the Henbane that they worked with quiteotropic substances, it’ll come to me that the one in particular,

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the henbane that they worked with quite a bit,

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there are all kinds of substances

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that would take you out of this state of consciousness

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and expand you, take you into these other worlds.

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And so after that first experience,

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I was very curious to do this again.

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I knew, I knew something came into me.

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This is my path to explore.

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And so what began after that was a series of every month,

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I was like a woman of zest,

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every month I would go up to my friend

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and we would do these shamanic immersions into this medicine.

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And I was,

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I was having cumulative experiences

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where the second

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time this happened, spirits

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started coming in. They started coming

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in and they didn’t stay, but they would come in

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as if to

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experience being in

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this and then myself, part of

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me experiencing them.

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And then they would talk to me, they

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would teach me. And what ended up happening was, eventually they started to animate me

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when I did the medicine, and so what I ended up coming into was a very, very ancient art

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form of being a medicine oracle. That’s old shamanistic work, where the shaman goes into the other worlds,

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and they go in and they bring back information,

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and there are some shamans who allow the spirits in.

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They allow themselves to be animated,

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and then the spirits speak through them.

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And so we have no reference point for any of this in our culture.

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And what I want to say about these medicines is that they are not escape mechanisms.

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This is not about escapism at all.

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This is what I really want to express is the necessity of bringing a ritual context to these medicines,

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because every time I embarked on this, I would do ritual. I would use either sage or copal,

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which is tree resin, and I would walk around in circle and sage the area where I was going to be, or kopal, I would call

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in that being to protect. I would open the directions, and I would call in my allies.

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So part of me understood, and also from practicing shamanism for the years before that, I understood

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you’re going into an altered state. You must protect yourself. Set and setting are very important with these medicines.

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These are medicines.

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They’re sacraments.

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And I describe it as going through the portal

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to sit on God’s lap and talk to the Spirit.

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This is what I do.

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And at the same time,

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as above, so below, as within so without.

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So what I did learn too

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is when you’re in that territory,

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there are many eyes upon you

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that you’re blithely unaware of.

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All right?

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There’s tricksters there and troublemakers.

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So it is very important,

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and the shamans understand this,

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that you create that protection.

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It has nothing to do with being afraid or anything.

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No, no, no.

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It’s just you’re setting boundaries.

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So that’s about really standing in your power,

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creating the boundary, and then going in.

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Set and setting is essential.

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And so these beings were teaching me,

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and it’s very interesting because one of the names for these kind of medicines is a hallucinogen.

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And one of the things the beings have taught me is that so much in our culture is flipped, it’s reversed, right?

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There’s a whole game of words in this culture, and I’ll speak to that in a few minutes when I talk about spells.

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But you call it a hallucinogen.

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A hallucination is something that you see or hear that isn’t real, right?

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And yet you’re going into these realms, and they will take you.

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They will cut to the truth.

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They’ll cut to the truth very quickly.

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What they do is

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they open the deep psyche. They open the conscious mind and the subconscious mind. So they’re

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very powerful activators, and they will illuminate for you personal material. They will illuminate parts of yourself that you maybe were unaware of or don’t even

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really want to face.

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And this is the other piece with these medicines and why they must be treated with reverence

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because I’m sure, you know, we’ve all heard people in this culture running around shrooming

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or doing their asses or whatever they’re doing and they have a bad trip, they’re at a party

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or they’re out in the street.

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God knows, right?

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or whatever they’re doing, and they have a bad trip,

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they’re at a party or they’re out in the street,

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God knows, right?

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It’s a profaning of the medicine because we’ve not been taught in this culture not to use that.

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We’re taught really to abuse in this culture.

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We’re taught to abuse.

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And we use substances like alcohol and prescription drugs

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and cigarettes and food as well,

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to suppress and to escape.

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We are taught to escape in this culture.

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And so what these medicines will do is they’ll take you to the heart of the truth of who you are

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and what needs to be addressed.

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You’ll get a healing.

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And it may not be comfortable or it may be ecstatic,

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but you’ll get what you’re supposed to get.

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Why? Because these are teachers.

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They’re teachers. They’re beautiful teachers.

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And they do not have the filters that we do.

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You’re going in, you’re working with a very powerful teacher,

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and different medicines work differently.

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Now here’s the thing with the mushrooms.

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Compared to peyote, which has been in the Native American traditions

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in an unbroken lineage for thousands of years,

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and they have this beautiful ceremony around their peyote, beautiful.

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So they have this container that they create,

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and they work with that medicine. And in the unbroken lineages that work with the ayahuasca

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medicine, they too have a beautiful container, and it’s done in such a way, you know, and you’re

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held and you’re safe. Well, with mushrooms, there’s really no container. There’s no container.

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mushrooms, there’s really no container. There’s no container. They were used in Mexico by the Aztecs and the Mayans who called the mushrooms God’s flesh, or God’s children, or that which

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will take you to God. They horrified the Spanish clergy, and the Spanish clergy responded with

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their inquisition, and anyone there who was caught using those, working with the mushrooms,

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was murdered, all right? And so it’s gone to a very, very small, small secluded area within

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Oaxaca that works with that medicine. But, you know, good luck finding your way to one of those

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shamans. And so this was the other piece, too, that my friend and I realized when we started

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doing this medicine, we have no shaman to guide us with this. We’re really on our own. And I think of

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myself as a spiritual warrior. And a spiritual warrior seeks to know. They’re on a quest to know.

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And the Native Americans talk about the spiritual warrior. They have another word for it, but the

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English translation is warrior. And people don’t necessarily like that warrior word. But, you know,

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there’s a time for battle, and then there’s that time

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for that spiritual quest, so I seek to know.

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And so these medicines provide that, and I realized, well, we’re on our own, so we’re

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just going to have to create our own sacred container around this.

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We’re going to have to create our set and setting, we’ll create ritual, and we’ll do

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this with as much integrity as we possibly can.

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And so after a few months, I realized, I’ve got to start writing about this. I’ve got to start

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writing about this. This is important. And I’ll tell you, it’s dangerous to do that,

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especially for a woman. There’s a reason why there’s very few women’s voices.

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They can take away your children. We still have an inquisition. It’s the Pharmacratic Inquisition.

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It’s gone nowhere. It’s around, trust me.

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And there’s a reason why these medicines are illegal.

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There’s a reason why.

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I was just at the MAPS conference in San Francisco in April,

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which is the Multidisciplinary Association of Psychedelic Studies,

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and 100 researchers came from over 13 different countries

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to discuss their research with substances like psilocybin and MDMA and ayahuasca and iboga.

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And iboga out of Africa, I have not worked with this substance. I would never do that unless I was with an experienced shaman.

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But iboga completely eradicates heroin addiction.

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Eradicates heroin addiction.

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And I was just recently doing some research on the opium wars

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that happened in the 18th century

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when the East India Trading Company out of England

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wanted to work with China.

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They wanted to trade with China.

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There was a lot of goods that China had

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that the British people were craving,

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and they wanted China to be part of their trade routes.

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And China, the emperor said,

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no, to hell with you, we’re doing just fine, thank you very much.

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We’re our own container, and they were.

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All their needs were met, they had everything they needed, and the East India

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Trading Company really wanted to get in there, so what did they do? They threw Hong Kong,

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started growing opium in poppies in India, and then brought that into China, and people started smoking the opium,

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and created addiction of indescribable agony.

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Indescribable agony, trying to get off that stuff.

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I mean, just horrific.

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They destroyed people, all in the name of big bucks,

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all in the name of money and power.

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And so eventually it worked, and they got into China,

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and there’s a whole story with that.

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Well, they also decided to bring that, like,

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why are we knocking ourselves against a wall with China

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when it’s totally legal?

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This was the 18th century in England.

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So they brought it into England.

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They brought it over here.

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And do you know that They brought it over here.

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And do you know that in the mid-1800s, opium, it was in cough syrups.

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I mean, it was being peddled.

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You could get it from your apothecary, from your pharmacist. And two-thirds of the people, of all the people who were opiate-addicted were women.

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Were women.

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And then the rest, mostly, were veterans who were in such agonizing pain from battle.

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They would take this medicine, and the next thing you know, they would be addicted to it.

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And then there were all these companies coming up with different cures

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because, of course, getting off the opiates was so…

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It was just next to impossible.

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People were destroyed.

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So here we have Iboga now.

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Iboga will do that for you, but it’s illegal.

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And I’ll tell you why.

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Because it competes with the methadone industry, because they give these

00:22:46 ►

heroin addicts methadone, which is highly addictive. I know I have a friend who committed

00:22:51 ►

suicide after years of fighting methadone, right? So then also at the MAPS conference,

00:22:57 ►

they were talking about PTSD and how MDMA, which is also known as ecstasy, actually its original name was empathy,

00:23:06 ►

and that works for people with intractable post-traumatic stress syndrome.

00:23:13 ►

It alleviates suffering.

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And then depression, psilocybin.

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Psilocybin and MDMA used in proper set and setting, mind you.

00:23:23 ►

All right?

00:23:24 ►

You bring people in, you work with them therapeutically,

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you sit with them and allow them to have a dose of these substances,

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and you work with them, they’re totally safe and held,

00:23:36 ►

and they are in an expansive state where they can see more deeply, more profoundly.

00:23:42 ►

You know, something that it might take, if you’re lucky,

00:23:41 ►

see more deeply, more profoundly.

00:23:44 ►

You know, something that it might take, if you’re lucky,

00:23:49 ►

eight to 12 years of therapy, you know, can be accomplished in about four hours.

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And then these guys were saying, these researchers were saying, well, we’re hoping that MDMA will be made legal for psychiatric use by 2020.

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And so I began asking myself some very practical questions when I was there,

00:24:07 ►

saying, what’s going on here? What is going on? How is this possible? Why are we supplicating

00:24:14 ►

ourselves to these government authorities? Who are they working for? Aren’t they supposed to be working for us? Aren’t

00:24:25 ►

they charged with the responsibility of working for us? We have such suffering

00:24:34 ►

and agony in our culture, you know. And one thing that these substances do is

00:24:40 ►

they not only work for you. So for my personal experience, right,

00:24:45 ►

I was going in these monthly,

00:24:47 ►

and I was shifting,

00:24:50 ►

I was seeing things about myself

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that I didn’t have that perspective before,

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and I was healing, I was healing.

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And then at the same time,

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I was beginning to see society, I was beginning to see

00:25:07 ►

this culture that we’re in

00:25:09 ►

with a much more

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expanded view

00:25:12 ►

and I was beginning to really understand

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you know what this is, this is the equivalent of the red

00:25:17 ►

pill in the matrix

00:25:18 ►

right, it expands your mind

00:25:21 ►

it opens your intuition

00:25:23 ►

you become much more intuitive.

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There is a man named Dr. Thomas Roberts,

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who is Professor Emeritus at Northern Illinois University,

00:25:35 ►

and he teaches the only course of its kind called

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Foundations in Psychedelic Studies.

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And he just published a book called

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The Psychedelic Future of the Mind,

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how entheogens are boosting intelligence, enhancing cognition, and raising moral values.

00:25:53 ►

And so he lists study after study after study of what these substances are doing to accomplish just that.

00:26:01 ►

And he writes in this book about how we we are kept in just this ordinary mind state,

00:26:09 ►

waking state, all the time.

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And then when we go to sleep,

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that would be considered an altered state of consciousness.

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And dreaming is another altered state of consciousness.

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Now, if we don’t sleep, and if we don’t dream,

00:26:23 ►

that affects this state of consciousness, doesn’t it?

00:26:25 ►

I mean, we’re a mess. We’re a mess.

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We must sleep, we must dream.

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So he was saying, you know, they work synergistically.

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He was saying, we have hundreds, if not thousands,

00:26:35 ►

of different mind states available to us.

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But what we’re doing, by just focusing on this specific mind state,

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it’s the equivalent of working with a computer

00:26:45 ►

and all you do is play the chess on the computer.

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That’s all you do is play the chess.

00:26:48 ►

You disregard all the other programs available to you.

00:26:53 ►

And so he was saying that his studies,

00:26:57 ►

his personal studies going into the psychedelic plant world,

00:27:01 ►

he said were equivalent to his earning his doctorate at Stanford,

00:27:07 ►

because he would go in with actual questions or problems that needed solving, and he would

00:27:13 ►

come out of that with answers. And he said there has been a study done with, I think,

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an architect and an engineer and a doctor and someone else, and they each had questions to some perplexing problem

00:27:29 ►

that they were dealing with,

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and they went in to the medicine with that,

00:27:34 ►

and each one of them came out with answers to their problems.

00:27:38 ►

One of them came out with two specific formulas as a result.

00:27:42 ►

So that is available to us.

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These medicines are very profound.

00:27:49 ►

And for myself, my exploration has been very shamanically focused,

00:27:56 ►

and also as a woman, too.

00:27:59 ►

Again, there’s no touchstone for this in our culture. We all know we’re in a very rational, masculine, dominant culture.

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And this is poo-pooed and frowned upon.

00:28:14 ►

And yet, as I have just shared with you,

00:28:17 ►

it’s such rich terrain for us to explore for our own healing

00:28:23 ►

and then also to offer healing and new ideas.

00:28:26 ►

Because what did Einstein say?

00:28:28 ►

You cannot solve problems with the same mindset

00:28:31 ►

that you started them with.

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You’ve got to think outside of the box.

00:28:37 ►

And speaking of the box,

00:28:38 ►

we are literally kept in a box.

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It’s called a Hegelian dialectic.

00:28:43 ►

It’s a box, all right?

00:28:44 ►

This comes from this guy, something

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Hegel in the 1800s, and it’s about

00:28:48 ►

keeping people always having two

00:28:50 ►

sides. Always having two sides and

00:28:52 ►

always battling, okay? Think Democrat,

00:28:54 ►

Republican, liberal, conservative, pro-life,

00:28:56 ►

pro-choice, blah, blah, blah, blah.

00:28:58 ►

Always this, never a resolution.

00:29:00 ►

It’s called divide and conquer.

00:29:03 ►

Alright?

00:29:04 ►

And we are in

00:29:06 ►

dangerous times right now

00:29:08 ►

we’re in dangerous times

00:29:09 ►

we’re really under siege

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and I know

00:29:14 ►

that this hunger

00:29:16 ►

for these medicines right now

00:29:17 ►

Mother Earth is calling

00:29:20 ►

us back

00:29:21 ►

Mother Earth is calling her children

00:29:24 ►

her sons and daughters back to her Earth is calling her children, her sons and daughters, back to

00:29:25 ►

her. How? Through her plants. Through her plants. So we can remember what we are. We’ve

00:29:33 ►

lost ourselves. We’ve lost ourselves. And this happened thousands of years ago. When

00:29:39 ►

I go into these realms now, I talk to these spirits and they teach me. And they teach me with

00:29:45 ►

coyote teachings. And coyote teachings are where they’ll give you a clue. They’ll play

00:29:51 ►

with you. They’ll give you a few hints. They’ll give you something to chew on. And then it’s

00:29:56 ►

up to you to go and do your research and do your due diligence and expand it and explore

00:30:02 ►

it and find your answers. because what they have told me is

00:30:05 ►

this is a vast holographic

00:30:08 ►

game that we’re in.

00:30:10 ►

And we’re not going to give you all the answers.

00:30:12 ►

Where’s the fun in that?

00:30:14 ►

But we’re going to give you some really good

00:30:16 ►

clues and we expect you to use them.

00:30:17 ►

And the other thing that they’ve said is they are

00:30:19 ►

here as our assist.

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But they’re not here

00:30:23 ►

as our authority.

00:30:25 ►

And they’re not here to save us either.

00:30:28 ►

We’re going to do that.

00:30:30 ►

We’re going to do that.

00:30:31 ►

And I am very, very just cautious with channeled material,

00:30:40 ►

because there’s a lot of nonsense out there.

00:30:43 ►

You’ve got to really sift through it,

00:30:44 ►

and then there’s some really darn good messages out there, right?

00:30:47 ►

But what I like about these beings is

00:30:50 ►

they are very, very clear with me in saying,

00:30:55 ►

we are not your authority. We’re not your authority.

00:30:59 ►

You require no governing.

00:31:03 ►

Check that one out. We require no governing. Check that one out.

00:31:05 ►

We require no governing.

00:31:07 ►

Guidance by wisdom keepers.

00:31:09 ►

Oh boy, do we need that.

00:31:11 ►

We don’t have any in leadership.

00:31:11 ►

None.

00:31:13 ►

Zero point zero.

00:31:15 ►

Terence McKenna once said,

00:31:17 ►

we are led by the least among us.

00:31:19 ►

That is a club.

00:31:21 ►

It’s a club.

00:31:23 ►

A very exclusive club.

00:31:24 ►

And you’re not invited.

00:31:26 ►

All right?

00:31:30 ►

And here’s the other piece, too, I’ll share with you.

00:31:37 ►

I went on a medicine journey, and the trees began talking to me. And they said, Dear one, do not describe yourself as an earth citizen.

00:31:43 ►

Citizen is a Roman word. You’re an earth citizen. Citizen is a Roman word.

00:31:46 ►

You’re an earth sovereign.

00:31:49 ►

You’re an earth sovereign.

00:31:51 ►

And so I always check my words.

00:31:56 ►

Because one thing they’ve taught me,

00:31:57 ►

they’ve taught me all about spells.

00:32:00 ►

And words are spells.

00:32:02 ►

That’s why you spell a word.

00:32:04 ►

That’s where that came from.

00:32:06 ►

All right?

00:32:07 ►

And spells are done through words.

00:32:09 ►

Through words, you can be uplifted through language,

00:32:12 ►

or you can be imprisoned, right?

00:32:14 ►

So if I say to you right now,

00:32:17 ►

giraffe,

00:32:18 ►

you instantly, what do you picture?

00:32:22 ►

You picture a giraffe, don’t you?

00:32:24 ►

Most of you, right?

00:32:25 ►

I just made you hallucinate, right?

00:32:28 ►

You saw something that wasn’t there through words.

00:32:30 ►

It’s the power of words.

00:32:32 ►

They have tremendous power.

00:32:33 ►

And so I thought, all right, what does that mean?

00:32:37 ►

Citizen, what do you mean?

00:32:39 ►

I thought I was a citizen.

00:32:40 ►

What is this, you know?

00:32:41 ►

So then I start exploring it.

00:32:42 ►

And right now I’m reading a very dry book

00:32:45 ►

called The Law of Roman Slavery.

00:32:48 ►

No, yeah, The Law of Roman…

00:32:50 ►

No, Roman Slave Law.

00:32:52 ►

It’s an old, old book,

00:32:53 ►

and it was written from Roman times.

00:32:55 ►

And I had one of those, oh, holy fuck moments, you know,

00:32:58 ►

when you’re reading going,

00:33:00 ►

oh, shit, nothing’s changed.

00:33:04 ►

Nothing’s changed.

00:33:05 ►

A citizen could be a slave. A citizen could be a slave.

00:33:07 ►

A citizen could be a slave.

00:33:10 ►

And they talk about their slaves,

00:33:11 ►

and they talk about putting a price on their slaves.

00:33:13 ►

Right?

00:33:14 ►

So here’s the matrix, my friends.

00:33:17 ►

Here’s the matrix, all right?

00:33:18 ►

And by the way, these beings have also said,

00:33:22 ►

we do not bring this information through the lens of fear.

00:33:25 ►

Your planet’s been run on fear.

00:33:26 ►

It’s the only language you know.

00:33:28 ►

No.

00:33:29 ►

They’re saying we bring,

00:33:30 ►

we are wanting you to see.

00:33:33 ►

Wanting you to see and understand what’s going on.

00:33:36 ►

Because when you see,

00:33:38 ►

you see.

00:33:39 ►

Then it’s game over, right?

00:33:41 ►

Another reason why these medicines are illegal, right?

00:33:44 ►

Because you use them enough in the right setting, and you start to really get what’s going on. it’s game over, right? Another reason why these medicines are illegal, right? Because

00:33:45 ►

you use them enough in the right set and setting, and you start to really get what’s going on.

00:33:49 ►

You start to really see, okay? But we’re in a society of commerce, and this goes back

00:33:57 ►

to Babylonian times. It’s a society of commerce. That’s not how we used to be.

00:34:05 ►

If you trace your ancestry back far enough,

00:34:07 ►

no, we were trading, there were communities,

00:34:11 ►

the indigenous cultures didn’t have anything like that.

00:34:13 ►

Well, all of us were indigenous,

00:34:16 ►

tracing back in our ancestors at some point.

00:34:19 ►

We were heathens or barbarians.

00:34:22 ►

Who do you think called them heathens and barbarians?

00:34:25 ►

The Romans, those were good guys. All do you think called them heathens and barbarians? The Romans.

00:34:25 ►

Those were the good guys.

00:34:27 ►

All right?

00:34:27 ►

Those were the good guys.

00:34:28 ►

So then they brought in commerce.

00:34:30 ►

Now think about this.

00:34:31 ►

So, oh, you’re a lawyer,

00:34:33 ►

so yeah, you work about 400,

00:34:35 ►

and you’re a waitress,

00:34:36 ►

probably about $30,000 a year,

00:34:39 ►

and you’re an accountant.

00:34:40 ►

Yes, about $120,000.

00:34:43 ►

You’ve brought people into a system. You’ve given them choices

00:34:47 ►

of what to be, what to do. This is all based on title, by the way. What’s your title? I

00:34:52 ►

won’t nurse under this. And then you’ve given a monetary value of what that person’s worth.

00:35:00 ►

Well, that dehumanizes. That’s the antithesis of what it is to be a human being.

00:35:08 ►

And so this is, we don’t maybe quite get that,

00:35:12 ►

because this is all we know.

00:35:15 ►

But you see, we’re born,

00:35:17 ►

and we just don’t even think to question.

00:35:20 ►

We’re born into this structure, and we just kind of think,

00:35:23 ►

yeah, so this is how it is, right, okay,

00:35:24 ►

so I’ve got gotta go to school

00:35:25 ►

and I gotta learn what they teach me and then I’m gonna go to college

00:35:28 ►

and maybe I’ll get into that really good college and I’ll have status

00:35:32 ►

and I’ll do this and do this and no one

00:35:34 ►

necessarily questions who put those structures

00:35:38 ►

in place who funded them

00:35:40 ►

whose philosophy is that

00:35:43 ►

that we’re all raised you you know, and we’re raised

00:35:47 ►

to be patriotic in this country, you know? And so everything’s been given to us. All

00:35:54 ►

our information has been given to us from something else, from someone else, you see?

00:36:00 ►

And so we are also trained, and the beings said, trained like dogs, trained like dogs,

00:36:06 ►

all of us, programmed, trained, conditioned, to look outside of ourselves to external authorities

00:36:13 ►

for everything. Even to our friends to say, do I look fat? Does my butt look fat? How do I look?

00:36:18 ►

You know, but for everything. And we are not trained to go within. We’re not even trained

00:36:23 ►

to necessarily train, that’s a terrible word, but you know what I’m saying.

00:36:26 ►

Not even, you know, really encouraged, shall we say,

00:36:31 ►

to really go within and consult ourself.

00:36:34 ►

Look at the medical system, my goodness.

00:36:36 ►

You know, you get sick, you go in the doctors right away.

00:36:38 ►

If you’ve got cancer, they are all over you like white on rice.

00:36:41 ►

They get you in a stew of fear, right?

00:36:46 ►

And before you can even think straight

00:36:48 ►

and just ground yourself,

00:36:50 ►

oh, they’ve got you.

00:36:52 ►

They’ve got you.

00:36:53 ►

And you’ve given all your authority over.

00:36:55 ►

You’ve given all your power over.

00:36:58 ►

So I’m telling you this because

00:37:00 ►

with these medicines,

00:37:02 ►

when used reverently,

00:37:04 ►

they will teach you.

00:37:06 ►

What are you doing?

00:37:07 ►

You’re going within yourself.

00:37:09 ►

You’re going within yourself.

00:37:11 ►

You’ve ingested a sacred medicine.

00:37:13 ►

It expands your consciousness.

00:37:16 ►

And what are you?

00:37:18 ►

We are consciousness.

00:37:20 ►

We are consciousness.

00:37:21 ►

And we’re in right now a prison of consciousness.

00:37:25 ►

We’re a consciousness, and we’re in right now a prison of consciousness. We’re imprisoned.

00:37:26 ►

All of this available to us has been narrowed down to just this,

00:37:31 ►

and we’re just kept in this.

00:37:33 ►

And we’re also kept very, very busy, aren’t we?

00:37:35 ►

Very, very, very busy.

00:37:39 ►

And I’ll tell you something.

00:37:40 ►

I spent the Saturday night, I’m very tired tonight.

00:37:43 ►

I was Saturday night with, I’m very privileged, this was the first time, the Native American Church

00:37:49 ►

and all women’s peyote ceremony of 55 women in the teepee.

00:37:57 ►

And I’m speaking a lot about women, I love men, I love my brothers very much, so please

00:38:02 ►

know that, but 55 women of TB, and

00:38:05 ►

the way that they do that ceremony, very different than mushrooms and ayahuasca, where you’re

00:38:10 ►

going and it’s very, you know, you’re on your own, it’s very interior. In their case, someone

00:38:15 ►

sponsors a ceremony, and by that I mean someone says, I’m calling you all together for ceremony,

00:38:22 ►

I want us to pray for my daughter who’s getting married

00:38:25 ►

or my son who’s sick.

00:38:28 ►

So it’s something like that.

00:38:29 ►

Well, this woman called the women together

00:38:31 ►

to pray for the empowerment of women

00:38:35 ►

to go out into the world and heal.

00:38:38 ►

And so that was our prayer.

00:38:40 ►

And that was our prayer.

00:38:41 ►

You take the peyote medicine

00:38:43 ►

and you look into the fire, this beautiful fire,

00:38:45 ►

that this one woman is assigned to tend to that fire all night long.

00:38:50 ►

You stay up all night long,

00:38:51 ►

and there are the songs of women.

00:38:53 ►

Each woman sings four songs.

00:38:55 ►

She’s singing about how she loves her husband,

00:38:58 ►

and she loves her children,

00:38:59 ►

and she loves her family,

00:39:00 ►

and she loves her earth and her God.

00:39:02 ►

I mean, it’s beautiful.

00:39:03 ►

And there’s a drum, do-do- And there’s a drum, and a rattle.

00:39:06 ►

It is exquisite.

00:39:07 ►

And it’s a very long night.

00:39:10 ►

And it’s very difficult.

00:39:11 ►

And at about 2.30 in the morning,

00:39:13 ►

I broke.

00:39:14 ►

I was so damn tired.

00:39:17 ►

I couldn’t do it any longer.

00:39:19 ►

And I didn’t want to leave the teepee,

00:39:22 ►

and finally they gave my section a break, and we went outside, and I had a sponsor with me. Someone sponsors you. You don’t get to leave the teepee, and finally they gave my section a break,

00:39:25 ►

and we went outside, and I had a sponsor with me.

00:39:27 ►

Someone sponsors you, you don’t get to just show up.

00:39:29 ►

So I was very lucky to have someone who sponsored me to participate.

00:39:33 ►

And I just said, I can’t do this anymore, you know, it’s too hard,

00:39:36 ►

I want to go to sleep, and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

00:39:38 ►

Anyway, I came back in, and then Owl started talking to me.

00:39:42 ►

And Owl, by the way, since I’ve been working with the mushrooms,

00:39:45 ►

has come in every single time, and now that’s my medicine.

00:39:49 ►

And Owl, by the way, sees in the dark.

00:39:53 ►

Owl can see what others can’t.

00:39:56 ►

Owl can also see what others won’t see.

00:39:58 ►

So Owl medicine is a little bit hard to take sometimes,

00:40:01 ►

but it’s essential, especially for now, because we all must learn to see.

00:40:06 ►

So Owl started talking to me that night,

00:40:08 ►

and she said,

00:40:10 ►

Daughter, you don’t ever have to do this ritual again,

00:40:12 ►

but you must do it to the finish.

00:40:16 ►

And then I was also thinking,

00:40:17 ►

I will confess to you,

00:40:18 ►

because it was mostly Native American people

00:40:20 ►

and people of Native American descent,

00:40:23 ►

and I was thinking,

00:40:23 ►

these aren’t really my people. And Owl said, daughter, they may not be your people, but they’re your people tonight.

00:40:32 ►

They’re your people tonight. And then she said, you sit here like the good woman that

00:40:38 ►

you are. You belong in the teepee with the women, and you will sit and do your duty.

00:40:46 ►

And so what I learned also is

00:40:48 ►

how we are such a culture of convenience, right?

00:40:51 ►

And we’re so dang privileged.

00:40:53 ►

I’m so privileged.

00:40:54 ►

I don’t know what it means to be poor like that.

00:40:56 ►

And not just poor,

00:40:57 ►

but all the cards stacked against you.

00:40:59 ►

Because I’ll tell you what,

00:41:00 ►

positive affirmations are not going to work for those people.

00:41:03 ►

They’ll laugh in your face.

00:41:05 ►

All right? And I learned also, because this is what initiation does affirmations are not going to work for those people. They’ll laugh in your face. All right?

00:41:06 ►

And I learned also, because this is what initiation does.

00:41:08 ►

It’s not easy. It’s not supposed to be.

00:41:11 ►

And we all have these initiations in our life.

00:41:13 ►

I write about this in my book.

00:41:15 ►

Through relationship, through adversity, through illness, through heartbreak,

00:41:19 ►

we have these initiations, right?

00:41:21 ►

An initiation is designed to challenge you.

00:41:25 ►

They’re designed to break you if you need breaking.

00:41:28 ►

Crack your heart open, all right?

00:41:31 ►

So you can see what you’re made of,

00:41:33 ►

and you can see what needs correcting.

00:41:36 ►

And correct it.

00:41:37 ►

It has nothing to do with judging yourself or shaming you.

00:41:39 ►

That’s old church nonsense, right?

00:41:43 ►

But it’s essential.

00:41:45 ►

And so that was just an extraordinary experience.

00:41:50 ►

And I went there one woman, and I left there a better woman.

00:41:55 ►

I left there a better woman.

00:41:56 ►

And so I have just such reverence for the power of these medicines

00:42:04 ►

and for the different containers.

00:42:08 ►

And let me think, there are just a few more things I want to share with you.

00:42:10 ►

I was talking about spells.

00:42:11 ►

So the beings were saying, so this is a thick spell.

00:42:14 ►

This is a thick spell we’re in, right?

00:42:16 ►

And community is essential.

00:42:18 ►

What we are doing right now is, in this lifetime,

00:42:20 ►

we got to be all together again.

00:42:22 ►

So we’re finding each other,

00:42:24 ►

and it’s essential that we treat each other with kindness,

00:42:28 ►

and we assist each other, and we help each other to heal.

00:42:31 ►

We need each other, because it is a thick spell out there.

00:42:36 ►

Another thing that happens, at least to me,

00:42:38 ►

you do this medicine often enough,

00:42:40 ►

and then you look at this culture we’re in,

00:42:44 ►

you look at the media,

00:42:45 ►

you look what’s fed to our children and to us,

00:42:48 ►

and you realize this is immoral.

00:42:51 ►

It’s just immoral.

00:42:53 ►

Sick.

00:42:54 ►

It’s sick.

00:42:55 ►

And people are sick, aren’t they?

00:42:58 ►

Depression is skyrocketing.

00:43:01 ►

Do you know, last year, my friend Tina said,

00:43:03 ►

Shauna, you and I are the exception, you know. Everyone I

00:43:06 ►

know is on antidepressants, including

00:43:08 ►

my sister.

00:43:10 ►

I was like, are you kidding?

00:43:12 ►

Yeah. Now,

00:43:15 ►

I will,

00:43:16 ►

well, risk my

00:43:18 ►

critics, but I will say, you know, what I think

00:43:20 ►

is going on with these antidepressants, too, that

00:43:22 ►

are being given away, like candy,

00:43:24 ►

I think that’s another opium war. Because isn’t it interesting that just as we had in

00:43:32 ►

the middle of the 19th century, two-thirds of the women were opiate addicted, and then

00:43:38 ►

the rest basically were the veterans. Most women in this culture, so many, many, many women are on antidepressants

00:43:47 ►

now. Those are dangerous, by the way. They will really mess your brain up. And if you’re

00:43:53 ►

on them, I’m not judging. Please don’t think that. I speak the truth. That’s what I speak

00:43:59 ►

and that’s what I offer, all right? And then our beautiful warriors who are being egregiously

00:44:04 ►

abused because they’re not fighting a noble battle. They’re fighting for Nike and they’re I offer, all right? And then our beautiful warriors who are being egregiously abused

00:44:05 ►

because they’re not fighting a noble battle. They’re fighting for Nike and they’re fighting

00:44:10 ►

for corporations. It’s a really, really mean trick on those good men who we love. And then

00:44:17 ►

they come back and they are fed a dark wizard’s stew of the most horrific antidepressants and painkillers

00:44:27 ►

and this and this and this and this.

00:44:28 ►

I know a few of these guys.

00:44:29 ►

They’re messed up.

00:44:31 ►

All right?

00:44:32 ►

And then, meanwhile, ha, here we have research that shows,

00:44:37 ►

oh, MDMA could assist those guys, many of them.

00:44:41 ►

You know?

00:44:43 ►

Psilocybin could assist those guys,

00:44:45 ►

probably ibogaduce,

00:44:46 ►

and so they’re not going to be brought in here

00:44:48 ►

because, you know, those guys in power,

00:44:52 ►

they’re not working for you.

00:44:54 ►

They’re working for their friends,

00:44:55 ►

with their friends, all right?

00:44:57 ►

So it’s up to us.

00:44:58 ►

This is up to us.

00:45:00 ►

And I was in Chiapas in the fall.

00:45:03 ►

I was leading a group of people

00:45:04 ►

with my dear shaman friend Miguel Angel.

00:45:07 ►

And one of the places we went to was Palenque.

00:45:09 ►

And he took the group that day.

00:45:12 ►

And I had a little bit of my medicine.

00:45:13 ►

I had this agreement with him.

00:45:15 ►

And I wanted to go talk to a ruler of Palenque known as Lady Zak Kuk, or the Red Queen.

00:45:23 ►

And she really basically ruled through her son

00:45:25 ►

Lord Pakal and I wanted to talk to her because she ruled a thousand years ago

00:45:30 ►

and they are actually finding now that there were other Queens in the Maya land

00:45:35 ►

at that time as well we’ve been told no no no but ah there were women ruling she

00:45:40 ►

was also known for going into high trance states and bringing through information.

00:45:46 ►

Well, what do you think she was working with?

00:45:49 ►

She was working with the sacred mushroom,

00:45:50 ►

and there’s mushroom statues up and down in Yucatan and Guatemala.

00:45:54 ►

So I wanted to talk to this lady,

00:45:56 ►

because when I go in and talk to these beings,

00:45:58 ►

I actually call them beings more so than spirits,

00:46:01 ►

because just as we are human beings,

00:46:03 ►

they’re beings too, just in a different realm.

00:46:06 ►

I talk to her like I’m talking to you.

00:46:07 ►

And so I went in,

00:46:09 ►

and I did the medicine.

00:46:11 ►

I was in a secluded place,

00:46:13 ►

and just a little bit, you know,

00:46:14 ►

and I closed my eyes.

00:46:16 ►

And then before me was this woman,

00:46:19 ►

and she was orangey-red,

00:46:20 ►

and she had a headdress of feathers,

00:46:23 ►

and in between each feather was a serpent, and she was eyeing me, and the serpents were eyeing me. And what they’re

00:46:29 ►

doing is they’re reading your frequency. I always joke that in the spirit realms, your

00:46:34 ►

wrath doesn’t work. Forget it, because they see right into the heart of who you are. They

00:46:38 ►

see, i.e., your beauty. They see right into your beauty. They know who they’re working

00:46:43 ►

with, all right? And so she’s studying me, and I just opened my truth. And then we began a conversation,

00:46:48 ►

and I said to her, why is there still so much suffering and agony in this world? Why? It hurts

00:46:58 ►

my heart. And she said, the question is not why. The question is how.

00:47:06 ►

How are we going to heal this?

00:47:09 ►

Well, it begins with gestures of kindness.

00:47:14 ►

Do not underestimate the power of a gesture of kindness.

00:47:19 ►

And so then I answered in my sassy Shanaway.

00:47:23 ►

I said, well, okay, but I don’t really

00:47:26 ►

think the New World Order oligarchs are going to respond to a gesture of kindness.

00:47:32 ►

You know, you’ve got to know what we’re dealing with out here.

00:47:35 ►

And she said, it is not for them.

00:47:39 ►

She said, it is the common people who will bring about the change that you desire.

00:47:44 ►

common people who will bring about the change that you desire.

00:47:47 ►

This is the common people who are suffering,

00:47:52 ►

and it is the common people who will respond to that kindness.

00:47:56 ►

And do not underestimate what a kindness will do something so seemingly simple to you,

00:47:59 ►

because you’re in a good place.

00:48:01 ►

You have no idea what that will do for someone.

00:48:05 ►

Even catching someone’s eye and smiling

00:48:07 ►

instead of just that impersonal looking away

00:48:10 ►

that we’re also conditioned to do.

00:48:12 ►

Don’t underestimate it.

00:48:14 ►

We’re suffering.

00:48:16 ►

I’ve been suffering.

00:48:18 ►

You’ve all experienced your suffering.

00:48:20 ►

We need each other.

00:48:22 ►

We need each other.

00:48:23 ►

And then she said to me,

00:48:25 ►

you are majestic beings,

00:48:29 ►

and you’ve been robbed of your majesty.

00:48:33 ►

And so then I went home,

00:48:35 ►

and I thought, huh, she called us majestic beings.

00:48:39 ►

And I told her the power of words,

00:48:40 ►

and these beings do not,

00:48:42 ►

there’s no accidents with their words.

00:48:44 ►

And so I look up the etymology of words, and I highly recommend not, there’s no accidents with their words. And so I look

00:48:45 ►

up the etymology of words, and I highly recommend that you do the same. Because etymology is

00:48:50 ►

word origins. Forget the definitions, all right? Webster, Oxford, those guys had their

00:48:55 ►

biases. And plus, word definitions change with the times, they really do. When you go

00:49:00 ►

into the etymology, the word origin, you find out what the original intention of that word was. So the etymology of the word majestic is royalty. Each one of us is royalty. Imagine

00:49:16 ►

that. We’re kings and queens. Truly, that’s truth, capital T. We are not citizens.

00:49:27 ►

We are not what we do.

00:49:31 ►

We’re not what we drive.

00:49:33 ►

We’re not what we wear.

00:49:34 ►

We’re human beings.

00:49:36 ►

We’re not human doings.

00:49:38 ►

We’re human beings.

00:49:40 ►

We’re beautiful.

00:49:42 ►

And we were robbed a long, long time ago.

00:49:44 ►

The beings call them schoolyard

00:49:46 ►

bullies, alright? So, I don’t know.

00:49:48 ►

Were they reptilian,

00:49:50 ►

alien, whatever? Who gives a shit?

00:49:51 ►

Who cares? Who cares?

00:49:54 ►

We are here

00:49:55 ►

to remember

00:49:57 ►

the truth of what we are.

00:50:00 ►

And so, we are in a

00:50:01 ►

place right now where we have

00:50:03 ►

brought in a lot of light, have we not?

00:50:05 ►

Everybody was pretty active in 2012 doing all sorts of ceremonies and counting on that

00:50:09 ►

and putting all their energy and calling in the light.

00:50:11 ►

And I joke with my students, I say, you think the dark is scary?

00:50:16 ►

Wait till you see what the light will do.

00:50:19 ►

Wait till you see.

00:50:20 ►

Because what is light?

00:50:23 ►

Light is information.

00:50:24 ►

It’s information.

00:50:25 ►

You turn on the light in the room

00:50:27 ►

and you see everything.

00:50:28 ►

You go, oh my God, it’s a mess in here.

00:50:30 ►

Oh my God.

00:50:31 ►

I didn’t know that was there.

00:50:34 ►

I didn’t know.

00:50:35 ►

Oh, I didn’t even want to know that was there.

00:50:36 ►

Oh, you know?

00:50:37 ►

And so this is happening to us personally.

00:50:40 ►

We’re hearing a lot about shadow work,

00:50:42 ►

working with our shadow, right?

00:50:43 ►

We’re going into ourselves. We’re cleaning up our ourselves, and we’re cleaning up our own house.

00:50:47 ►

We’re cleaning up our own house.

00:50:48 ►

And I discuss that quite a lot in my book, Love and Spirit Medicine, which I encourage you all by.

00:50:53 ►

All right?

00:50:54 ►

I discuss my own shadow.

00:50:56 ►

I mean, I really, it’s a very, it’s not just a woman’s telling.

00:50:59 ►

It’s a very vulnerable personal telling.

00:51:01 ►

All right?

00:51:02 ►

I put it all out there.

00:51:03 ►

I put myself out there.

00:51:04 ►

And so I gave whatever enemies,

00:51:07 ►

I don’t have any enemies,

00:51:07 ►

but I mean, I gave my critics

00:51:08 ►

everything they would need, you know,

00:51:10 ►

to throw their spears, right?

00:51:12 ►

And so what?

00:51:13 ►

This is it.

00:51:14 ►

This is the truth of me.

00:51:16 ►

And guess what?

00:51:17 ►

Y’all carry that too.

00:51:18 ►

All right, so this light is shining within,

00:51:20 ►

as within, so without.

00:51:22 ►

The light is also shining on the collective.

00:51:24 ►

So we’re going to be discovering more and more and. The light is also shining on the collective, so we’re going

00:51:25 ►

to be discovering more and more and more of what is being going on, and how we’ve been being played

00:51:32 ►

and trained, as the beings said, like dogs. And so every so often, I’ve done this just a handful

00:51:38 ►

of times, I will go into Medicine Oracle, because the beings have been very clear, they’ve said,

00:51:41 ►

this is not parlor tricks, you won’t see me going around the country channeling and whatever.

00:51:46 ►

That’s not how it works.

00:51:48 ►

Every so often I call a small group of people,

00:51:50 ►

and they’ll come in and speak to us.

00:51:54 ►

But the really awesome thing that they were saying,

00:51:57 ►

at the end of this big channeling,

00:51:58 ►

it was like three hours in December,

00:51:59 ►

there was a train like dogs on you, you know.

00:52:02 ►

And they were saying, you’ll figure it out, though.

00:52:04 ►

You’re going to figure it out.

00:52:05 ►

And at the very end of that, they said,

00:52:07 ►

what is dog spelled backwards?

00:52:10 ►

They said, we can hardly contain ourselves.

00:52:14 ►

We’re God.

00:52:16 ►

All right?

00:52:17 ►

So here’s something else, too, I’ll explain.

00:52:19 ►

Just a little bit more about this commerce piece

00:52:21 ►

and this matrix piece.

00:52:22 ►

It’s very important to understand.

00:52:23 ►

We’re in a sea of commerce.

00:52:24 ►

It is a system, all right?

00:52:25 ►

It goes back to Roman times and beyond.

00:52:28 ►

And it is gradually spread around the whole planet, right?

00:52:30 ►

This is our society.

00:52:31 ►

This is all we know.

00:52:33 ►

It’s what we live in, right?

00:52:34 ►

Well, when you’re born,

00:52:36 ►

when you’re born,

00:52:37 ►

before you’re issued that birth certificate,

00:52:42 ►

you exist.

00:52:43 ►

You are.

00:52:44 ►

You come in.

00:52:48 ►

You’re beautiful. You’re God, you already are but then the birth certificate essentially is

00:52:52 ►

sanctioning you to be

00:52:55 ►

a lawyer put that together, an attorney

00:52:58 ►

and on that birth certificate is your name written in all capital letters

00:53:04 ►

do you write your name written in all capital letters. Do you write your

00:53:05 ►

name in caps? No one does. When you see a word or a name written in caps, it’s a corporation.

00:53:13 ►

So a birth certificate, and then you are called a person. So you hear these people complaining,

00:53:18 ►

going, how can a corporation be a person? That’s ridiculous. They hide it right in front

00:53:23 ►

of you, my friends. It’s called legalese.

00:53:27 ►

Again, playing spells with language, okay? I’ve downloaded a PDF version of Black’s Law

00:53:34 ►

Dictionary. I’m learning the legalese. I want to know what’s right in front of my face.

00:53:39 ►

A person, the legal, Black’s Law definition is, a fiction entity, corporation, or company.

00:53:46 ►

What you are

00:53:48 ►

when that birth certificate is

00:53:50 ►

signed, sealed, and delivered, you become

00:53:52 ►

a franchise under the United

00:53:54 ►

States Incorporated.

00:53:56 ►

Well, a franchise is a franchise. It’s something

00:53:58 ►

you’re going to make money off of, isn’t it?

00:54:00 ►

And when your mom signs that

00:54:02 ►

birth certificate, by the way, what she doesn’t

00:54:04 ►

understand is, she’s giving you understand is she’s giving you away.

00:54:07 ►

She’s giving you away.

00:54:08 ►

She has no idea she’s doing that.

00:54:09 ►

And then what’s supposed to happen is your father’s supposed to claim you,

00:54:11 ►

but no one’s told him that, so he doesn’t claim you.

00:54:14 ►

So you’re considered lost at sea, the sea of commerce.

00:54:18 ►

Get it?

00:54:19 ►

So when a ship comes down a canal, it’s berthed.

00:54:24 ►

Is it not B-E-R-T-H?

00:54:26 ►

Just as you came down your mother’s birth canal,

00:54:31 ►

and then you are given this certificate,

00:54:34 ►

and you’re considered lost at sea.

00:54:35 ►

You’ve now been handed over to the state,

00:54:37 ►

and you are a franchise, a commodity.

00:54:41 ►

So do more research on this.

00:54:43 ►

You can look up a guy named Clint Richardson.

00:54:46 ►

He has a blog, and he writes all about this.

00:54:50 ►

You can also listen on YouTube to a woman named Tammy Pepperman,

00:54:54 ►

who knows law inside, out, backwards, and forwards,

00:54:57 ►

and talks all about this.

00:54:58 ►

And this goes back to the Bible.

00:54:59 ►

The Bible is all metaphor.

00:55:01 ►

When Jesus, remember, he got all pissed off,

00:55:03 ►

and he turned over all those tables of the money changers,

00:55:06 ►

he was furious, furious.

00:55:09 ►

And then when he walked on water, guess what that was?

00:55:12 ►

He was walking above the sea of commerce.

00:55:15 ►

He refused to go through it, do you see?

00:55:18 ►

He was warning everyone back then.

00:55:21 ►

I’m not a Bible person, believe me,

00:55:23 ►

but I’m starting to understand what it really is.

00:55:25 ►

Someone else has interpreted that

00:55:27 ►

and given us their interpretation, right?

00:55:29 ►

But it’s a metaphor.

00:55:31 ►

And then another thing Jesus said is,

00:55:33 ►

I and the Father are one.

00:55:35 ►

Ooh, they stoned him for that one.

00:55:36 ►

They were very angry about that.

00:55:37 ►

They thought that was blasphemous.

00:55:39 ►

What he was saying is,

00:55:40 ►

I and the Father, meaning God,

00:55:42 ►

we’re the same thing.

00:55:44 ►

And Jesus is us.

00:55:46 ►

We are Jesus, right?

00:55:48 ►

And so we are Jesus.

00:55:50 ►

We are God.

00:55:51 ►

We are God.

00:55:51 ►

We’re a fractal of God.

00:55:53 ►

We’re God.

00:55:54 ►

We’re not a corporate entity.

00:55:56 ►

And I want you to really explore that

00:55:58 ►

because that’s how they get you.

00:55:59 ►

And this entire system we’re in

00:56:01 ►

is based on contract.

00:56:03 ►

Every time you sign your name,

00:56:07 ►

you are giving your consent.

00:56:08 ►

Do you see?

00:56:09 ►

You’re giving your consent.

00:56:13 ►

So our beautiful men are being shipped everywhere,

00:56:15 ►

murdering innocent people.

00:56:17 ►

Oh, I sound like an activist now, don’t I?

00:56:18 ►

Oh my goodness, listen to her.

00:56:21 ►

And it’s all done with our consent. And so the way that you stop a tyranny

00:56:25 ►

is not through violence,

00:56:27 ►

no bullets shot.

00:56:30 ►

You call back your support.

00:56:33 ►

You no longer support it,

00:56:34 ►

and there are ways to do that.

00:56:36 ►

All right?

00:56:37 ►

And so you can look that up.

00:56:39 ►

I won’t go into all of this.

00:56:40 ►

And so what does this have to do with consciousness?

00:56:42 ►

Everything.

00:56:44 ►

Everything.

00:56:44 ►

Because over a period of time,

00:56:46 ►

we have been methodically and very efficiently

00:56:50 ►

drawn into where we find ourselves today,

00:56:54 ►

completely divorced from nature,

00:56:57 ►

completely divorced from ourselves, do you see?

00:57:00 ►

And so this planet is under siege.

00:57:03 ►

She’s under siege.

00:57:03 ►

And so this planet is under siege.

00:57:04 ►

She’s under siege.

00:57:13 ►

And yet she loves us more than any words can possibly convey.

00:57:16 ►

She’s calling us back.

00:57:19 ►

She’s calling us back with love through her plants.

00:57:23 ►

And saying, create your communities again.

00:57:25 ►

Do not support that.

00:57:28 ►

Do not think of yourself as such.

00:57:29 ►

No, you are beauty beings.

00:57:31 ►

You are human beings.

00:57:32 ►

You are God.

00:57:33 ►

And guess what?

00:57:35 ►

This is Eden.

00:57:36 ►

We’re in the paradise.

00:57:37 ►

This is the garden.

00:57:39 ►

This is the garden.

00:57:42 ►

And so if you think of Earth as one being, well, she’s got cancer and it’s systemic.

00:57:45 ►

So we’re all the white blood cells

00:57:46 ►

gathering ourselves again,

00:57:48 ►

gathering our strength again,

00:57:50 ►

re-membering, re-dash-membering,

00:57:52 ►

and remembering ourselves.

00:57:53 ►

Because here’s the deal too with beings,

00:57:55 ►

and it explains to me,

00:57:55 ►

is each of us is a frequency.

00:57:58 ►

It’s all about frequency.

00:58:00 ►

We are a frequency signature.

00:58:02 ►

They can read your frequency signature

00:58:04 ►

and your frequency signature, and they can identify read your frequency signature and your frequency signature,

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and they can identify you.

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We come in many different guises

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over and over to this earth, right?

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It’s always that same just beautiful,

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impeccable frequency signature.

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And so the more we are able to remember ourselves

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of really what we are,

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we start shedding those shitty stories

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that we’ve been telling ourselves.

00:58:26 ►

We have been measuring ourselves our whole life

00:58:30 ►

against a bunch of false standards.

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Do you see?

00:58:35 ►

That’s not who we are.

00:58:36 ►

We grow up, we’re so bummed because we don’t fit in.

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Do you know how hard I tried to fit in in high school?

00:58:40 ►

What a loser I thought I, thought I,

00:58:43 ►

beautiful me, was a loser in high school. What a loser I thought I, thought I, beautiful me, was a loser in

00:58:47 ►

high school. I even cut my wrists. And I hurt myself. I harmed myself because I bought into

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the lie, the false story that we’re all told. And it’s so real. This is the thing. These medicines are called hallucinogens?

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No.

00:59:07 ►

No.

00:59:08 ►

The hallucination is society.

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That is not even real.

00:59:12 ►

It’s an artificial construct.

00:59:15 ►

All right?

00:59:15 ►

There’s no such thing as Seattle.

00:59:18 ►

There’s no such thing as Seattle.

00:59:19 ►

There’s no such thing as Canada.

00:59:21 ►

There’s no such thing as borders.

00:59:22 ►

That’s a construct.

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It’s an idea,

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right? And it’s held together by consensus agreement. Get it? A corporation’s not real.

00:59:34 ►

Who you think you are isn’t real. Of course not. No. And when you, you know, we sue each

00:59:41 ►

other because something, someone’s injured us. You can’t injure anyone.

00:59:46 ►

That’s a legal term.

00:59:48 ►

Harm is a different deal.

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Harm, physical harm, yeah.

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But injury, what, my reputation?

00:59:54 ►

Come on, get over it.

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It’s artificial.

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And so what we are doing is, you know, and this is what I’m, I’m a spell breaker.

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This is what I am.

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And I am daughter who knows.

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And if you read the book, I had an experience where a white owl came to me.

01:00:13 ►

It was a profound mystical experience.

01:00:16 ►

She called me daughter who longs.

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And she said, you will be birthed tonight, dear one, from daughter who longs to daughter who knows.

01:00:25 ►

And that’s the other piece too. You know, when I work with people, it’s all about empowering them. I had a beautiful

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woman come to me, and she works with animal medicine and a very devout, beautiful woman,

01:00:40 ►

and she said to me, can you give me my name? And I said, uh, uh, uh, uh,

01:00:46 ►

don’t you look to me

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to give you your spiritual name?

01:00:51 ►

You go within yourself

01:00:53 ►

and you find your allies

01:00:55 ►

and let them tell you

01:00:58 ►

what your spiritual name is.

01:00:59 ►

Do you see?

01:01:00 ►

We’re so conditioned

01:01:02 ►

to look outside of ourselves.

01:01:04 ►

Please tell me.

01:01:04 ►

And you know what? I mean, I think these ourselves please tell me and you know what

01:01:05 ►

I mean I think these guru guys are fine

01:01:07 ►

you know and they’ve got some wisdom

01:01:08 ►

but sometimes what I really wish they would do

01:01:10 ►

is say to their hundreds of followers

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you know what you guys

01:01:14 ►

you don’t need me

01:01:16 ►

especially you guys

01:01:18 ►

you don’t need me at all

01:01:19 ►

you’ve got it going on

01:01:21 ►

get out of here

01:01:22 ►

go get out of here

01:01:24 ►

and just go be in your beauty.

01:01:26 ►

Start your own communities, right?

01:01:29 ►

And so with all due respect, with all due respect,

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if you understand what I’m saying,

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there’s so much, we have so much to call from in here.

01:01:36 ►

You are not the story of what you think you are.

01:01:41 ►

You’re not.

01:01:43 ►

Let it go.

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Let it go. Let it go. And go in and endeavor to seek to know. Seek to know. I seek to know. I’m daughter who knows. I’m not daughter who knows everything, by

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the way. I want to make that distinction. I’m daughter who knows. I know a few things.

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All right? And so do you all. And so trust that. Trust that more. We’re doubting ourselves constantly.

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So I’m sure you weren’t exactly expecting to hear this kind of thing tonight,

01:02:11 ►

but this is a result of the medicine.

01:02:13 ►

This is the level of consciousness

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that is a result of these beautiful plant medicines that they will bring you.

01:02:22 ►

And so, coming back to that,

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if this is something you seek,

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first of all, don’t go looking for them growing outside.

01:02:29 ►

They do grow all over the place.

01:02:31 ►

You’ve got to know what you’re looking for

01:02:32 ►

when it comes to mushrooms,

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because if you eat the wrong ones, you’ll die.

01:02:35 ►

So you’ve got to be real, real, real careful.

01:02:38 ►

But they’re findable, and go online,

01:02:41 ►

and whatever, do your due diligence, right?

01:02:43 ►

And I will also make that very

01:02:45 ►

clear that this is my path. I do not do ayahuasca-type ceremonies with mushrooms. I don’t.

01:02:52 ►

Don’t ask me for that. I don’t do that. You know, we can’t do that right now, right? We can’t. It’s

01:02:57 ►

a shame. It’s really disgusting that we can’t, because I’d be a hell of a good guy, but it’s illegal. And by the way, let me make

01:03:05 ►

a distinction. There’s natural law, by the way. Natural law is God’s law, and the only

01:03:13 ►

law under God is you do no harm to another human being. Period. The end. Then we have

01:03:22 ►

man’s laws. Man’s laws are what’s called supernatural.

01:03:26 ►

Super, Latin, means above natural nature, above nature.

01:03:30 ►

So man’s laws go above nature.

01:03:32 ►

And they come up with their statutes and codes and all this nonsense.

01:03:35 ►

And before you know it, you’re in a tyranny.

01:03:38 ►

Which is exactly where we find ourselves.

01:03:42 ►

But yet we are human beings. We’re not our name.

01:03:44 ►

By the way, your last name doesn’t

01:03:45 ►

belong to you. It belongs to the crown. Oh, so much for you to find out. So, so much.

01:03:50 ►

I’m giving you little clues. But again, not to scare you, but to educate yourself. We

01:03:55 ►

are so also encouraged in this culture to run. To run and hide. And we just want to

01:04:01 ►

be entertained. And we want to, you know to bury ourselves in our computer or our TV and take our drugs, which, you know, whatever. Do you see? No, no more. We can’t

01:04:10 ►

do that anymore. We can’t do that anymore. It’s too dangerous. Do you see? I mean, too

01:04:16 ►

much is happening. We’ve got to be on our toes. We want to raise the vibration. We want

01:04:21 ►

to remember who we are. We’re too beautiful not to figure this out.

01:04:25 ►

We’re too beautiful. We’re too strong and amazing. Do you see? So, you know, I had my

01:04:34 ►

notes because I try to keep myself somewhat, and I don’t know. I didn’t, I was like, all

01:04:37 ►

right, I guess I’m not supposed to work off my notes. So I’m sure I’m forgetting stuff, but I’ll finish with this, okay?

01:04:49 ►

Another thing that beautiful Red Queen said to me, ladies at Cook,

01:04:52 ►

was earlier that day, Miguel and Hala Shaman and some of the people,

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they were all talking about, they were saying, yeah, we’re really aliens.

01:04:59 ►

That’s really what we are, you know.

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And when I do this medicine, the fairies come in to me.

01:05:03 ►

The fairies come in, and they just dance me in their pure bliss. And so I’m talking to the Red Queen and I

01:05:08 ►

remember that. It occurs to me and I go, um, so am I fae? And she throws her head back

01:05:16 ►

and laughs and she says, you humans always wanted to be anything other than you are.

01:05:22 ►

wanting to be anything other than you are. She said

01:05:24 ►

you are.

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You came, she said, never mind

01:05:28 ►

what you were before you came.

01:05:30 ►

You came here to play

01:05:32 ►

human. So play

01:05:34 ►

the highest expression

01:05:36 ►

of human that you know

01:05:38 ►

to be.

01:05:40 ►

And so I will finish on that

01:05:42 ►

note and I thank you

01:05:44 ►

so very much for coming tonight.

01:05:46 ►

I’m so grateful. Thank you.

01:05:56 ►

Would anyone like to ask questions?

01:05:57 ►

Do we want to open it to questions or anything?

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Oh, in Redmond.

01:06:05 ►

Did you get flyers?

01:06:06 ►

Okay, so my contact information

01:06:09 ►

is there on my website, so I always list

01:06:11 ►

my ceremonies and my classes on my website.

01:06:14 ►

And so the next ceremony

01:06:15 ►

is going to be the June

01:06:17 ►

21st solstice, the solstice ceremony.

01:06:20 ►

So you can read about that.

01:06:21 ►

And then I have a monthly newsletter

01:06:23 ►

that comes out, Wisdom Unfolding, so if you’re on the homepage, you can read about that. And then I have a monthly newsletter that comes out, Wisdom Unfolding.

01:06:25 ►

So if you’re on the home page, you can click that, and I write it every month.

01:06:32 ►

And, yeah, yeah, did you have a question?

01:06:35 ►

Yeah, so that was a lot of information.

01:06:38 ►

It was.

01:06:41 ►

Did all of that come after the mushrooms experience,

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or did you have that information?

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I didn’t have it before, no.

01:06:49 ►

It came as a result of working with this medicine.

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How long ago was that?

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It will be two years in July.

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Yeah, and I’m not doing five grams a month anymore.

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No.

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But, you know, I still worry.

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It is my medicine.

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I am definitely a medicine shaman.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

01:07:12 ►

But it will just expand you,

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and like I said,

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it’s coyote teachings they give you.

01:07:18 ►

But you also have to use

01:07:19 ►

your critical thinking with this.

01:07:20 ►

It’s essential that you use

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your critical thinking, right?

01:07:23 ►

Because I do that, too.

01:07:24 ►

I come out of it, and I work with it almost like it was a dream, you know? Like one of

01:07:28 ►

my journeys last April, I birthed this extraordinary dragon and she’s huge and her wingspan is

01:07:37 ►

huge, but she’s extraordinary. And she said to me, I am no fantasy. You will ride me with dignity and grace and humility and kindness.

01:07:51 ►

And then we proceeded to have a talk, and then at the end she finished with, I am no

01:07:55 ►

fantasy. And so when I came out of that piece and I started working with that and integrating

01:08:00 ►

it the next day, is that a real being? You know what? Yes, it is. On one level, yes, it is.

01:08:05 ►

And what are dragons symbols of?

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They’re symbols of very high magic.

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They’re symbols of very high power.

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And they will indicate, announce that you’re moving from one level to a very high level.

01:08:20 ►

And what that dragon was saying was,

01:08:26 ►

high level. And what that dragon was saying was, you are coming into a level of power and there’s no room for ego inflation. There’s no room for arrogance. You will carry this

01:08:34 ►

power like a human being, like a human being with kindness and dignity and humility. You know? The Navajo talk about power with.

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That’s power.

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Not power over, power with.

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So that’s just an example.

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So when you’re working with these journeys,

01:08:54 ►

you can work with them metaphorically

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or like you’re working with a dream.

01:08:58 ►

You know, and what was this teaching me?

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And other things too,

01:09:02 ►

revealing to you things

01:09:03 ►

that you didn’t necessarily want to know about yourself

01:09:05 ►

you know

01:09:06 ►

so, yeah

01:09:08 ►

so with ayahuasca

01:09:10 ►

it works a lot with the pineal gland

01:09:12 ►

and third eye

01:09:13 ►

and there’s the whole science to it

01:09:16 ►

which is fine, but I’m wondering

01:09:18 ►

with mushrooms, if it has the same

01:09:20 ►

effect on the pineal gland

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and that’s why it’s able to take us

01:09:24 ►

to different levels

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i think it does i yeah i think it does and do you know how the history of how mushrooms were

01:09:31 ►

discovered because ayahuasca was the ancient ones that they guided people to the reef and then died

01:09:42 ►

So do we know what the history is where the mushrooms were made?

01:09:45 ►

Neolithic man, is that right?

01:09:47 ►

Neolithic man worked with mushrooms.

01:09:48 ►

And there are cave paintings

01:09:50 ►

which clearly depict the mushrooms

01:09:54 ►

and working with the mushrooms.

01:09:55 ►

So I think they would watch the animals,

01:09:59 ►

what the animals would eat,

01:10:00 ►

and they knew, they just knew, right?

01:10:03 ►

Because they were so connected to the earth.

01:10:05 ►

And then as a result, as time went on,

01:10:09 ►

mushroom use goes into Judeo-Christianity.

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Oh, the origins of Judeo.

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Yeah, they were working with the fly agaric,

01:10:16 ►

the Amanita muscaria, in Soma.

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The Rig Vedas speak of Soma,

01:10:24 ►

and they still haven’t figured out quite what it was composed of,

01:10:26 ►

but it was psychotropic substances.

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The psilocybe was in there, the amanita, cannabis.

01:10:33 ►

So, yeah, I mean, it’s everywhere around the world, you know.

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These medicines were, the plants were used in that way,

01:10:42 ►

but the mushrooms got a long, long history of use.

01:10:45 ►

But then what they did was they hoarded it,

01:10:48 ►

because these things were also used

01:10:50 ►

as a way of kind of mind control as well,

01:10:52 ►

because you could, for instance,

01:10:55 ►

the Eleusinian Mysteries in Greece,

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that went on for over a thousand years.

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It was the temple of Demeter and Persephone,

01:11:04 ►

and so everyone was allowed to come once a

01:11:07 ►

year in the fall for the Eleusinian Mysteries, the sacred experience, and so everyone could

01:11:14 ►

come. Slaves could come, prostitutes could come, emperors could come. And so they would

01:11:19 ►

all descend on this temple, and then they would be given this wine. And so what they

01:11:26 ►

figure was in that wine,

01:11:28 ►

the psychotropic substance was ergot,

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which is a fungus that would

01:11:32 ►

grow on grain, which it would have

01:11:34 ►

to be something that was widespread, because they would have

01:11:36 ►

hundreds of people come, sometimes

01:11:38 ►

over a thousand people attending this ceremony.

01:11:40 ►

But what they essentially did was they drank that

01:11:42 ►

and then the priests and priestesses were putting on this whole deal

01:11:44 ►

and they would have this experience

01:11:45 ►

but they were told it was Demeter and Persephone

01:11:48 ►

so you could give someone this experience

01:11:51 ►

and expand their consciousness

01:11:51 ►

but you’re sort of controlling the set and setting

01:11:54 ►

and that’s another thing too

01:11:56 ►

back in the 50s

01:11:59 ►

the government

01:12:01 ►

got their hands on

01:12:02 ►

LSD

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and they gave LSD and also mescaline to unsuspecting soldiers.

01:12:10 ►

You know, they conducted horrible experiments, and that’s the thing, too.

01:12:13 ►

And in psychiatry as well, there’s a woman named Dr. Loretta Bender,

01:12:18 ►

who was a child psychotherapist, which is shocking.

01:12:26 ►

And she’s famous for coming up with the Bender Gestalt test,

01:12:28 ►

which is like an

01:12:30 ►

eye sort of motor

01:12:32 ►

ability test. In any case, she

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experimented on disturbed

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children as young as five

01:12:38 ►

and gave them LSD for

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days in a row, weeks,

01:12:42 ►

months, sometimes years, in addition

01:12:44 ►

to electroshock therapy.

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And not once, not ever once,

01:12:49 ►

did any of her colleagues ever report her, ever complain.

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And then she was given a full-page obit

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in the Journal of Psychiatric Medicine.

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That’s unheard of.

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So, you know, these were used,

01:13:02 ►

they thought they were onto something like,

01:13:04 ►

oh, this is great, we can use this as mind control, right? See how it’s ridiculous, these were used, they thought they were on to something like, oh, this is great, this is mind control, right?

01:13:07 ►

See, it’s ridiculous, these people. Ridiculous.

01:13:10 ►

Right? Because we have social engineering, we’ve all been raised under social engineering,

01:13:14 ►

call it mind control, you can call it whatever you want, social engineering, right?

01:13:18 ►

You know, education, public education, it’s indoctrination, blah, blah, blah.

01:13:22 ►

We’re breaking out of that. We’re breaking out of that.

01:13:24 ►

But so you can see these medicines were egregiously abused.

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And so they do not belong and should not belong

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to just the psychiatric field

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because there is still room for abuse,

01:13:34 ►

as far as I’m concerned.

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They don’t belong to the government.

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They sure as hell don’t, right?

01:13:38 ►

These are medicines that belong to we, the people,

01:13:41 ►

human beings.

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They’re plants, for Lord’s sake.

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But they deserve our respect, you know.

01:13:48 ►

And you’re not going to find me a burning man

01:13:51 ►

running around in a bikini, you know,

01:13:53 ►

and a tiara and, you know, high heels

01:13:57 ►

tripping my brains out, all right?

01:13:59 ►

It’s not going to happen.

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And I don’t use them to get laid either.

01:14:04 ►

No, it’s a sacrament. It’s medicine.

01:14:07 ►

And, you know, I’m 50. I’m not a young whippersnapper. And it is, I have a responsibility to put

01:14:15 ►

it out, put out the information that these medicines be used with reverence. I have a

01:14:21 ►

responsibility for that because there’s no touchstones in this culture.

01:14:26 ►

We don’t have recognized

01:14:28 ►

shamans in this culture.

01:14:30 ►

We don’t.

01:14:31 ►

So we’ve got to start somewhere.

01:14:34 ►

We’ve got to start somewhere. I’m not saying

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Burning Man’s not fun. I’m sure it’s great, but it’s not

01:14:38 ►

my scene, shall we say.

01:14:40 ►

Anyway, any other questions?

01:14:43 ►

Yes?

01:14:43 ►

I wanted to ask you about flower remedies.

01:14:45 ►

Okay.

01:14:46 ►

Have you?

01:14:47 ►

I have worked with flower remedies,

01:14:49 ►

and I haven’t had visions and experience

01:14:53 ►

like what you were speaking to,

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but I have been astounded at how quickly I shift.

01:15:00 ►

At how quickly I shift.

01:15:02 ►

There’s our plants again, our nod to these plants.

01:15:05 ►

And we’re really taught to brush those aside.

01:15:10 ►

But something also that subtle, don’t underestimate.

01:15:14 ►

Subtle, not for one minute.

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Yeah, no, very powerful, beautiful.

01:15:21 ►

It really concerns me.

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Good, I’m so glad. I’m so glad it concerns you, because we have a sticky, syrupy, gooey,

01:15:32 ►

just ooze of apathy in this culture still.

01:15:37 ►

Yes, because they’re medicated, right? Opium wars, only now it’s called antidepressants

01:15:43 ►

and they’ve got a condition for everything.

01:15:45 ►

He who controls the food controls the people.

01:15:49 ►

Do you see?

01:15:50 ►

We’re under, we’re in a tyranny,

01:15:51 ►

and so we must withdraw our support of that tyranny.

01:15:55 ►

We must no longer consent.

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And weaker.

01:16:00 ►

This is genocide, people.

01:16:02 ►

This is genocide, very quiet genocide.

01:16:05 ►

Cancer, diabetes, heart disease,

01:16:07 ►

these are not diseases of aging.

01:16:10 ►

You know, when I was 40,

01:16:11 ►

a friend of mine had to have a double mastectomy from cancer,

01:16:15 ►

and then I heard four other friends had cancer.

01:16:17 ►

And I called my mom and I said,

01:16:18 ►

Mom, when you were 40, did you have friends who had cancer?

01:16:21 ►

And she said, No, I didn’t know anyone who had cancer.

01:16:23 ►

You know, so it’s happening younger, younger, younger, younger, younger.

01:16:26 ►

So yeah, the death rates with cancer and smoking.

01:16:29 ►

Look at the two drugs that are legal, smoking and alcohol.

01:16:33 ►

They kill multiple millions every year, every year.

01:16:40 ►

So we have work to do.

01:16:41 ►

And by the way, these beings, they’re very funny too and I was asking about

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the term lightworkers

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and they said

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no no no no no

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clean up crew

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you’re a clean up crew

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you said

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no one’s ascending

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you’re not doing that

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we’re not ascending

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we’re not going to go

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and then they’ll be left

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no no no

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they’re saying

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clean up your own reality

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clean up your own reality

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and we’ll help you we’ll give you a boost we’ll We’ll give you an assist. We promised. We would.

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We promised. We would. Right? But if you hear whatever these beings coming in and, oh, they’re

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your authority and they’re telling you what to do, run screaming in the opposite direction.

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That’s not, at least, you know, I joke, in my frequency, in my frequency, it says, fuck

01:17:21 ►

you, you’re not the boss of me, you know. So the beings read that and go, all right, we can work with this.

01:17:26 ►

We can work with this one.

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She’s feisty.

01:17:30 ►

She’s got her shit together.

01:17:31 ►

All right, fine.

01:17:32 ►

We’ll give her some bones to chew on, some good ones, right?

01:17:36 ►

So, yeah, we got it going on.

01:17:38 ►

We really got it going on.

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Because if we’re talking about what I’ve been telling you all,

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you know, here in Seattle on a Wednesday evening,

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well, this information’s out.

01:17:50 ►

The beings have said, cats out of the bag, cats out of the bag.

01:17:55 ►

They’re very funny.

01:17:56 ►

Last July, no, no, no, when was it, June?

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June 5th was the Venus transit.

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I don’t know if any of you remember that last year.

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Oh, everybody was buzzing about that, right? And I said, you know, this feels like a major portal to me.

01:18:13 ►

I’m going to go in. I’m going in. I’m not going to wait another 186 years, you know, for this.

01:18:17 ►

And so I called a good friend of mine who’s kind of like my psychonaut co-pilot.

01:18:21 ►

And I said, hey, I’m going in. You want to come? And what I do is I go in my tent.

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I call it my teepee.

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And right now I live on five acres.

01:18:31 ►

I’m moving out of there soon.

01:18:32 ►

I still live with my ex-husband.

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We’re very good friends.

01:18:34 ►

But anyway, we’ve got this big pond,

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and we’ve got an island in the center

01:18:38 ►

and a bridge to the island.

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What a metaphor that is.

01:18:41 ►

You cross the bridge,

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and then we set up the tent.

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We’ve got two huge fir trees behind us like our elder protectors, right?

01:18:48 ►

And all the little fairies around there.

01:18:50 ►

And so I went in.

01:18:51 ►

I did six grams.

01:18:52 ►

My friend did, you know, just a light dose.

01:18:55 ►

And this energy came in and had never been in before, you know,

01:18:59 ►

before that birds come in.

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And my body contorts, and these go into mudras,

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which, by the way, guess what these are?

01:19:06 ►

Antenna.

01:19:07 ►

Antenna. The being said,

01:19:10 ►

there is an owner’s

01:19:11 ►

manual for this, dear ones.

01:19:13 ►

There’s an owner’s manual. You’ve not been

01:19:15 ►

given it.

01:19:17 ►

There is.

01:19:19 ►

There is. So anyway,

01:19:21 ►

I go in.

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Probably, yeah, the mudras, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely,

01:19:26 ►

you know, it sends information through your body, but you can pick up stuff. So anyway,

01:19:30 ►

out of my mouth, all this energy was raging through me, and at first they announced themselves

01:19:35 ►

by saying they’ve got their guns pointed and their radar on, and yet here we are in a tiny

01:19:41 ►

tent in Redmond. And then I looked over to my friend and they go, waste of money, don’t you think? And they were so much fun. And they were basically mocking

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the power hierarchy. Mocking them. And they’re way more positive or optimistic than I am.

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But they were saying, look, you’ll figure it out. You’ll figure it out. But you’ve got

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to expand your own frequency.

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You’ve got to remember what you are,

01:20:08 ►

because, oh boy, once you do,

01:20:11 ►

they’re going to be running scared.

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And I’ve had the idea, not the idea,

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I’ve had the sense,

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because when I bring them through,

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it’s almost like this is the stage,

01:20:23 ►

and I’ve got center stage, this is my body, but I’ve given them over the stage. I’ve said, all right, fine. So I sort of slip

01:20:29 ►

back behind stage and let them come through. So I’m backstage, I’m sort of privy to this,

01:20:34 ►

but I’m also privy to what’s going on backstage, too. And last time when they came through

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so profoundly in December, I got the sense of we’re at the end of what has been

01:20:46 ►

a very long journey, a very long cycle.

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So we’ve all been hearing about we’re at the end of that 26,500 year cycle.

01:20:55 ►

And it came to me that the after party is right around the corner.

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We’ve got an after party coming.

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And that we are so indescribably exquisite.

01:21:06 ►

We’re fucking huge, you guys.

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And so then we thought, all right, let’s do that game.

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Let’s do that game where the spell is so thick,

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it’ll be just almost impossible to remember who we are.

01:21:17 ►

We’ve got to have a thick spell because we’re so amazing.

01:21:19 ►

You know what I mean?

01:21:20 ►

So in we come into this matrix thing.

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Thick spell.

01:21:24 ►

All right?

01:21:24 ►

Only times are changing, you know? And then we’ve into this matrix thing, fixed spell, all right? Only times

01:21:25 ►

are changing, you know? And then we’ve got those who are playing the mean ones, you know,

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the schoolyard bullies. And I saw in this after party, you know, like I saw myself like

01:21:34 ►

sort of looking over, like, I don’t know, Henry Kissinger, name one of those guys.

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Sweetie, get over here. Come on. Put your head on my lap, sweetie. You played a hell

01:21:42 ►

of a role. You’re a total asshole. You need a healing.

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My God, honey, if anyone needs it.

01:21:47 ►

You know what I mean?

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So like coming back together, that coming back together,

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because we’re in this grand, grand, grand game,

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and it’s an infinite game, ultimately.

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It goes on ad infinitum.

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We get to come here and have an experience

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and try to remember who we are in this thick spell.

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Spells only work if you believe in them.

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And don’t forget, spells are done through words.

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I think there was a time on this planet

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where we didn’t really have to use language

01:22:19 ►

because we could speak telepathically.

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And now, when two people are in a room,

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sometimes this happens

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with the psilocybe or the amanita or

01:22:27 ►

other substances, where they

01:22:29 ►

are speaking telepathically.

01:22:32 ►

So, what is this brain

01:22:34 ►

that they tell us that we only use 10%

01:22:36 ►

of this month? What is this?

01:22:38 ►

And then there’s all that junk

01:22:39 ►

DNA, right? Now listen,

01:22:42 ►

everything we’ve been told,

01:22:44 ►

someone else told us. Don’t believe it.

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Don’t trust it. Don’t. Don’t give over your authority to those who claim authority. Do you

01:22:57 ►

see? Bring back more of your own authority and question everything. And you know, the good news

01:23:04 ►

about, you know, so much of much just I think basically almost damn near everything

01:23:08 ►

we’ve been told is a lie, but then the good news is damn near everything we’ve

01:23:11 ►

been told is a lie. What does that mean? That means, first of all it means fairies

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are real and I can vouch for that, but they are real, but it also means, oh you

01:23:19 ►

can’t heal yourself, oh you can’t do that, yes, you can. Okay? One of my teachers,

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Bru Joy, who was a doctor at one point and then became a spiritual teacher, told a story

01:23:31 ►

about the studies of people with multiple personalities. And there was this one woman,

01:23:37 ►

she had two different personalities, okay? And one had a disease, the other didn’t. So

01:23:42 ►

when the one with the disease was that the doctor tested positive,

01:23:45 ►

her body showed all the symptoms, everything,

01:23:47 ►

then when she was the other personality, nothing.

01:23:50 ►

Not only that, two menstrual cycles in one body.

01:23:55 ►

What is going on?

01:23:56 ►

What is that telling you?

01:23:59 ►

So, you know, who we think we are is so limited.

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They have gone to so much trouble.

01:24:06 ►

Think of the expense and the time and the energy

01:24:08 ►

that has been put into keeping us in this very narrow,

01:24:12 ►

teeny-tiny perception of who we think we are.

01:24:17 ►

You hear these people, they get to their midlife or whatever,

01:24:19 ►

and they’re supersonically successful.

01:24:21 ►

They have everything, and they go,

01:24:22 ►

Is this all there is? We have a crisis. Is this all there is?

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Right.

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Because it’s nothing.

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You’ve been cheated out of what you really

01:24:32 ►

are. So

01:24:34 ►

let’s claim it. This is

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our time to claim our

01:24:38 ►

humanity.

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Claim our beauty.

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Don’t compare yourself

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to the status quo. Don’t compare yourself to the status quo.

01:24:47 ►

Don’t compare yourself to your neighbor.

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Cut the shit. Stop it.

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Just stop it.

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And go in and know thyself.

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That was on the Temple of Delphi.

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Know thyself.

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And also, what’s that one?

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Knowledge is power.

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If you don’t know,

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and if you can’t see,

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you can be fooled, you can be schnookered. You have no power. If you don’t know, and if you can’t see, you can be fooled, you can be schnookered.

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You have no power. When you know, you know. But then in the meantime, I also always say,

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you don’t know till you know. So there’s a good way for you to forgive yourself of all this stuff where you screwed up. You didn’t know. It’s that simple. He didn’t know. Believe me, when I was in the teepee this Saturday,

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and the owl was working with me,

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and she made me very aware of my own elitism,

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and my own prejudice,

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and my own judgment in this room,

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not this room, but in that teepee,

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and there’s a dark, shadowy part of me,

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I’m confessing to you,

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because all I have is my truth,

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dark, shadowy part of me that felt a little bit better

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than everybody in that teepee.

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Uh-oh, you see? You see?

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And so Al didn’t say like this,

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you stupid woman, who do you think she…

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No, no, that’s not how spirit works, no.

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She said, dear one, she just showed me,

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she just showed me, and she said,

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you come here and you show these people respect,

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and don’t sit like this because you’re so tired.

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Keep your head up,

01:26:17 ►

and listen when these women sing,

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and listen when they speak,

01:26:22 ►

and be present for them,

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because they’re present for you.

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Do you see?

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And that’s why I left there a better woman,

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because I realized, God, I can be so selfish.

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Oh, well, that’s my conditioning.

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All right, I can correct that.

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Do you see?

01:26:36 ►

It’s just a course correction.

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That’s all.

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I don’t have to beat myself up and whatever,

01:26:42 ►

go on that dramatic nonsense of,

01:26:44 ►

no, just a course correction. That’s where the awareness, if you don’t have to beat myself up and whatever, go on that dramatic nonsense of, no, just a course correction.

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That’s where the awareness, if you don’t have the awareness, nothing changes.

01:26:51 ►

Nothing.

01:26:52 ►

So you need the awareness. That’s a gift.

01:26:55 ►

That’s a gift.

01:26:56 ►

Even if you don’t like what you see, it’s a gift.

01:26:59 ►

Because then you get to change it.

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And rise to the occasion.

01:27:04 ►

So anyway, I could go on and on.

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Did you have a good time?

01:27:12 ►

Yeah?

01:27:13 ►

Good. Great, great.

01:27:15 ►

I hope you will buy my book and enjoy it.

01:27:18 ►

And please write to me, and if you want to work with me,

01:27:20 ►

I would love to have you in my ceremony.

01:27:23 ►

I would love to work with you in whatever capacity that is.

01:27:27 ►

Tell your friends, let’s get this show on the road.

01:27:31 ►

Right.

01:27:35 ►

You’re listening to The Psychedelic Salon,

01:27:37 ►

where people are changing their lives one thought at a time.

01:27:42 ►

Wow, there was really a lot packed into that wonderful talk that we just listened to.

01:27:48 ►

And while this may be a somewhat insignificant point to bring up first,

01:27:52 ►

but I want to re-emphasize something that Shona just said about how we have all been trained

01:27:58 ►

since birth to fit into social structures that have been constructed by people who don’t

01:28:03 ►

necessarily have our best interests

01:28:05 ►

at heart.

01:28:06 ►

And it’s the word train that I hope you will focus on.

01:28:10 ►

When I was still working in the corporate world, it would just drive me nuts when we’d

01:28:15 ►

be required to get some training.

01:28:18 ►

I actually got into a lot of trouble back in those days whenever I would, and often

01:28:23 ►

quite loudly, when I would point out the fact that we train dogs, but humans should be educated. And much to my satisfaction,

01:28:32 ►

that would sometimes get our whole department to the brink of mutiny.

01:28:37 ►

Obviously, I wasn’t well suited to be a loyal corporate suit. Now, getting back to the talk

01:28:44 ►

that we just listened to, I was quite struck

01:28:46 ►

by Shona’s comparison between the state of prescription antidepressant use here in the

01:28:51 ►

states with the opium wars between the British and Chinese in a century or two ago. As she said,

01:28:59 ►

it’s all about money, not health or well-being. It’s about money and that’s why I don’t think

01:29:04 ►

that under our

01:29:05 ►

current system we are ever going to see the legalization of psychedelics, simply because

01:29:10 ►

they are not patentable, and they work so well that they could possibly replace many patent

01:29:16 ►

medicines, and the profits in the pharmaceutical industry would begin to dry up. Now, when Shona

01:29:24 ►

told that story about her mushroom trip

01:29:26 ►

in Palenque, I actually had to pause the recording for a moment and think back to

01:29:31 ►

my own first mushroom trip in Palenque, which out of many many other mushroom

01:29:36 ►

experiences remains yet today fresh in my memory and was without a doubt the

01:29:42 ►

major turning point in my life. But that’s another story for another day.

01:29:48 ►

However, here’s another stray thought.

01:29:51 ►

When Shona just now was telling her story of how we are divine beings

01:29:55 ►

who are trapped in a deep spell,

01:29:58 ►

I couldn’t help but think of the chapter in my novel,

01:30:01 ►

The Genesis Generation, that takes place at Caitlin’s Salon in Venice Beach,

01:30:06 ►

and where Stein gives his thoughts about what he calls the Earth Game. And then Shauna got me

01:30:12 ►

just now thinking about maybe I should take a look at the audiobook version of that chapter

01:30:17 ►

and podcast it. I’ve already podcast a couple of other chapters, and if it seems like it fits

01:30:23 ►

in with an interesting

01:30:25 ►

little metaphor that seems to be going around in various shapes and forms right now, well,

01:30:30 ►

then if it feels right, I’ll do it. But until then, please don’t forget that the level we’re

01:30:36 ►

playing on right now in the Earth game is called Find the Others. Find the Others. That’s step one.

01:30:42 ►

Find the others. Find the others.

01:30:44 ►

That’s step one.

01:30:48 ►

Don’t worry about step two until you’ve found a few more of the others.

01:30:50 ►

So what are you waiting for?

01:30:54 ►

Get out there and meet someone who thinks along the same lines as you and me.

01:30:58 ►

And who knows, it could be the start of something quite interesting.

01:31:04 ►

And for now, this is Lorenzo signing off from Cyberdelic Space. Be well, my friends.

⚗️ alembic

Explorer

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